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Spank
12-28-2005, 07:03 PM
I remember that article! When he was using the word "suck", that's refering to what the fans are saying about the players.
Jammer never said that the fans sucked.

Not even close to what was posted or implied.

Thats not what i quoted in my post. There is an article from this year somewhere about how the SD DB's were going to be greatly improved and yadda yadda yadda. In that article he called the fans idiots for having any opinion because the fans dont play the game and dont really know whats going on. The word idiots, or stupid, was used in that article by Jammer refering to SD fans.

I'll find the article sooner or later.....:14:

ftwbolt
12-28-2005, 08:17 PM
LEVEL PLAYING FIELD COULD BE AMONG CASUALTIES IF SALARY CAP VANISHES IN '07Posted on Wed, Dec. 28, 2005

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/13498337.htm

What would happen if football became baseball? If you took a match to the NFL salary cap and allowed teams to spend as much - or as little - as they wanted on their player payroll?
Would Jerry Jones become George Steinbrenner? Would Jeff Lurie morph into David Montgomery? Would small-market teams such as Jacksonville, New Orleans and Kansas City become little more than cannon fodder for the big-spending franchises? Would the league's "on any given Sunday" motto give way to "never in a million years"?
We might soon find out. After 12 years of warm and fuzzy labor peace, the league and the NFL Players Association are at an impasse in their negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement. While the current CBA doesn't expire until after the 2007 season, the final year of the deal will be uncapped if the two sides can't get an extension done by the end of the 2006 calendar year.
Technically, that still gives them 12 months to work things out. But the union has indicated that if there isn't a deal in place by March, its inclination will be to walk away from the bargaining table and let the clock run out on the cap.
"I've been to 32 teams, and all the players understand where we are. They're saying, 'Bring on the uncapped year,' " NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw told the Washington Post last month.
Upshaw long has warned that once the uncapped year kicks in, there is little chance of the union's agreeing to resurrect it.
"We'll never get the cap back once it goes away," he says.
Considering the level of prosperity that both the league and its players have achieved under the current capped system, it's difficult to believe either side is all that eager to find out what life might be like without a cap.
"Nobody wants to kill this golden goose," agent Leigh Steinberg says. "I don't like the salary-cap system. There's nothing I like about it except that it's a system that both sides have been able to agree upon. But that has meant that football's been able to concentrate its energies and efforts at the union and management level on developing new revenue sources and promoting the brand with the general public."
Says Chiefs president Carl Peterson: "We have such a good system that has worked well for both sides. Certainly it's not perfect. Both sides would like to tweak some things. But hopefully, cooler heads will prevail. There's so much on the table for both sides that it would be folly to throw that away."
Even with a cap, many teams feel the NFL already is becoming a league of haves and have-nots, with a handful of teams, including the Eagles, able to squeeze tens of millions of dollars more a year in unshared revenue from their stadiums than other teams. If the cap goes bye-bye, teams such as Peterson's Chiefs, who play in an older stadium in a smaller market, would be at a decided disadvantage against the league's high-revenue clubs.
"The whole premise of the National Football League has been sharing revenues so that small markets like the Green Bays and the Kansas Citys and the Jacksonvilles can be competitive with the New Yorks and the Chicagos and San Franciscos," Peterson says.
"I only need to look across our parking lot to our local baseball team [the Royals] to see what can happen [to a small-market team in an uncapped system]. They obviously have a tough situation, because their $45 million payroll is supposed to compete with the $200 million payrolls of the Yankees and the Red Sox. That's very, very hard to do."
While it's hard to fathom any NFL team ever becoming quite as destitute as the Royals or some of baseball's other small-market baseball clubs, there's little doubt that the elimination of the salary cap almost certainly would affect the league's equilibrium.
"You can't compete when one team has an open wallet and another team has both hands covering it up," says NFLPA president Troy Vincent, the former Eagle who now is a Buffalo safety. "It really can create disparity, not just at a club level, but at a player level as well."
Vincent pointed out that the current salary-cap system includes both maximum and minimum payroll levels. An uncapped system would include neither.
"With a cap, we can control the minimums," he says. "Wihout a cap, we can't control the minimums. Some [players] will be greatly rewarded. Many others will be surprised."
Says agent Brad Blank: "Everybody's brandishing their swords right now. The union says it will be a Shangri-La and the wages will go way up, which I tend to agree with. But then I've also heard certain owners say this will be good because they could spend as little as they want.
"Ultimately, without a cap, [the NFL] would resemble baseball, where some owners will spend whatever it takes to sign the players they want, and others won't. You'll have your haves and your have-nots. It will become a two-tiered system, just like baseball."
If 2007 becomes an uncapped year, the free-agency rules would change slightly. Players would need 6 years of accrued NFL service to become unrestricted free agents rather than the current 4.
"It's in both sides' interest to try to get this thing resolved before we get [to the uncapped year]," agent Jerrold Colton says. "Both sides stand to lose something significant. From the players' standpoint, a lot of them will say that [without a cap], there will be no limit on salaries. But with it taking 2 more years to qualify for free agency, it's going to thwart a lot of players' ability to get the big money.
"If there is no cap in '07, it's going to be uncharted territory.
I don't think either side really knows for sure what kind of world we'd be getting into."
Blank agrees.
"It won't be good for anybody," he says. "And I include the players in that. Even though salaries might go up, who wants to play for a team that never wins? And that will be the fate of a lot of players. Or will all the good players gravitate to one or two teams, like baseball? It'll be good for some of them, but not all of them."
One group that clearly would benefit from the absence of a salary cap in '07 would be the rookies. Without a cap, there also would be no rookie pool, which has managed to keep rookie contracts from spiraling out of control as they did in the pre-cap days, when it wasn't unusual to see first-round deals increase 30 to 35 percent from one year to the next.
"The rookie would be free to negotiate contracts without reference to the salary cap," Steinberg says. "They'd be able to command much larger compensation packages structured in different ways than currently occurs. More up-front money. Straight salaries. Fewer option clauses."
Steinberg sees two major benefits to an NFL without a salary cap. Theoretically, teams would be able to hold on to their own veteran players since they wouldn't have to worry about staying under the cap. But there's nothing to prevent another team from making that veteran a better offer.
Steinberg also says teams would be able to create the kind of roster depth that has been lacking in the league since the advent of the cap. They'd be able to keep more experienced veteran backups, rather than cheaper rookie and first-year labor because of cap considerations.
"Today, you've got Grade-A linemen backed up by Grade-C people," Steinberg says. "Teams could move back to an era where Joe Montana was backed up by Steve Young who was backed up by Steve Bono. The better clubs with better management would once again be able to hang on to more talent."
The possibility of an uncapped year in '07 is expected to affect what happens during the upcoming free-agency signing period. Some free agents-to-be who will have enough accrued service to qualify for free agency in '07, such as Colts wide receiver Reggie Wayne, might opt to sign 1-year deals in the hope of hitting the mother lode as a free agent again in uncapped '07.
Some teams also might get a little more reckless in their free-agent spending in '06 if they think there won't be a cap in '07.
"If you're a team and you think there is going to be an uncapped year in '07, you can really blow your load right now and make up for it in the uncapped year," Blank says. "That could blow up in your face, though, if there ends up being an agreement next year and '07 is capped."
Blank also isn't as convinced as Upshaw claims he is that the cap will never return if it goes away in 2007.
"It's not as unlikely as he makes it sound," he says. "I understand that he has to say that right now as part of his bargaining position. You have to make [the owners] think that if you let the genie out of the bottle, you can never get it back in.
"If he lets them think it's negotiable, then the owners might say, 'Well, let's try it for a year [without a cap] and see how it goes. We can always go back.' You don't want them to have that flexibility in their minds."
Vincent remains hopeful the owners and players can hammer out a new labor pact in the next few months and avoid an uncapped year in '07.
"I'm a player, and every player would love to make as much money as possible," he says. "But I look at the game and the profession and the popularity of our game and everything that revolves around it. We've learned valuable lessons from baseball, basketball and hockey about the roads we don't want to go down if we can avoid them."

ftwbolt
12-28-2005, 08:31 PM
By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2005 Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3551115.html

Everyone knows that if the Texans lose at San Francisco on Sunday they will get the first pick in the 2006 draft. And make no mistake: They will use it on running back Reggie Bush, whose value continues to skyrocket.

Even if the Texans defeat the 49ers, there's a chance they'll still get Bush.

A victory would make the Texans and 49ers 3-13. New Orleans, Green Bay and the New York Jets also could finish 3-13.

If the Saints finish with the easiest strength of schedule, they would get the top pick. They have a lot of needs, but running back isn't one of them. Deuce McAllister, who's recovering from knee surgery, is one of their best and most popular players.

But the Saints probably will need a quarterback. Aaron Brooks, who has been benched, needs a change of scenery. He's done everything he can for the Saints. Expect both sides to agree a change is necessary.

Without Brooks, the Saints will be desperate for another quarterback. No matter where they play, owner Tom Benson needs to make a splash.

Whether it's San Antonio, Baton Rouge or New Orleans or a combination of the three cities, having Matt Leinart as their starting quarterback would create a lot of interest and generate hope among their loyal and frustrated fans.

But if Leinart ends up with the Saints, he'll become the poster boy for leaving college early.

If Leinart had left USC after his junior year, he probably would have been the first pick over Alex Smith, the 49ers rookie quarterback. If Leinart is not the first pick in April, it'll cost him several million dollars. And if he ends up being drafted by Benson, well, maybe he'll return to USC to work on his master's degree in ballroom dancing.

Benson wants to move his franchise to San Antonio, his hometown. The NFL wants him back in New Orleans. San Antonio is the only city that wants Benson. New Orleans wants the Saints but not the owner.

If Benson is in position to draft Leinart, maybe he should ask USC coach Pete Carroll how much it would take to hire him as Saints coach and give him control of personnel, too.


L.A.'s chances
Los Angeles wants an NFL team, but Benson is not the kind of owner L.A. wants or needs. The NFL doesn't want Benson in Los Angeles, either. Imagine, though, how attractive the Saints would be if Carroll and Leinart were part of the package.

But that's not going to happen. The Saints are going to be in San Antonio or New Orleans.

If Benson is in position to get Leinart, and the quarterback pulls an Eli Manning and threatens to sit out, perhaps the NFL could orchestrate a trade to the Jets. Benson could say something like, "I'll send Leinart to New York if you let me move to San Antonio."

If not Leinart, perhaps Bush.

If the Saints have the first pick, they should listen to trade offers for Bush. Benson would know the Texans and Jets would love to get Bush. And Benson would also know that the NFL would love for Bush to play for the Jets.

Although they can't admit it publicly, scouts have been evaluating Bush for a few weeks because they know he's going to announce his decision to leave the Trojans after the championship game against Texas.

The consensus is Bush is a sensational prospect — one of the best ever — and he's also an upstanding citizen. That means companies will line up to try to convince Bush to endorse their products.


Selling Bush
The marketing arm of the NFL would salivate to promote Bush like Peyton Manning. Having Bush in New York would be ideal. Having Bush in Houston wouldn't be ideal, but it would be good enough. Having Bush in San Antonio, Baton Rouge or New Orleans isn't what the league wants.

The Texans can make all the conjecture go away by losing to the 49ers.

But if they win and the Saints get the top pick, Benson will be in control. What a scary thought.

John McClain covers the Texans and the NFL for the Chronicle. john.mcclain@chron.com

ftwbolt
12-28-2005, 08:46 PM
Updated: Dec. 28, 2005, 3:34 PM ET

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2273063

Scratch Brian Billick from the NFL's endangered species list.

In an announcement that confirmed rumors of the past two weeks, Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti informed players at a team meeting Wednesday morning that Billick will return as head coach in 2006. There have been strong indications from both players and assistants that Billick would be back for an eighth season.

One player contacted Monday by ESPN.com who also had been interviewed by Ravens management about Billick's ability to lead the team back to the playoffs said then that the coach "already [seemed] to know something about his future." Other sources within the team said Billick had been apprised as long as two weeks ago that he and his staff would likely return.

Billick, 51, has a 67-51 record, including playoff games, since taking over the Ravens in 1999. He has a year left on his contract.

"We have an ongoing and extensive process to find ways to win," Bisciotti said in a statement. "This included a thorough evaluation of Brian Billick. Collectively, we concluded that continuing with Brian as head coach gives us the best opportunity to win."

Part of that process was in-depth interviews with veteran players and some assistant coaches as Bisciotti, team president Dick Cass and general manager Ozzie Newsome sought direction for the future. Billick is under contract through the 2007 season. Another element was an analysis of the field of potential replacement head coaches.

"As I have always said, I'm very thankful and appreciative to be part of an organization and a group of people that we have here," Billick said. "The ability to deal and go through the difficulties that a team and an organization does, and to deal with it the way that we have, is very important to me. That's why I covet being here."

The news was received enthusiastically by the players, who now have one less thing to think about as they head into Sunday's finale in Cleveland.

"I've always been a fan of Coach Billick. I think he runs the program the right way," tight end Todd Heap said. "I'm excited we have this continuity going forward. Everything was kind of up in the air. But now we can lay that to rest and focus on what we can do as a team to get better for next season."



In only his second season as an NFL head coach, Billick led the Ravens to the Super Bowl XXXV championship. After the 2001 season, however, the Ravens were forced to dismantle that team because of salary cap excesses. The Ravens have appeared in the playoffs twice since then but have not advanced beyond the divisional round.

Baltimore has won three of its last four games to get to 6-9 for the year and concludes the 2005 season Sunday at Cleveland.



The only time the Ravens fired a head coach was after the 1998 season, when then-owner Art Modell dismissed Ted Marchibroda before hiring Billick away from the Minnesota Vikings, where he served as tight ends coach and offensive coordinator from 1992-98.

"With Ted, I don't think we were headed in the right direction. With Brian, it seems like we are," veteran linebacker Peter Boulware said. "I was relieved; it closed the door on that."

Billick is currently tied for fourth in NFL seniority with Philadelphia's Andy Reid among coaches with their current teams, trailing only Pittsburgh's Bill Cowher (14 years), Tennessee's Jeff Fisher (12) and Denver's Mike Shanahan (11).

"The majority of the guys are happy he's back. ... I don't know of anyone that's not happy about it," said kicker Matt Stover, who has been with the Ravens since their first season in 1996. "Some people say that change for the sake of change -- new blood or a new voice -- is a good thing. I disagree. You have a guy that's taken you to a Super Bowl, and now it's just a matter getting us back."

Linebacker Bart Scott approved of the decision and its timing.

"It lets the guys know," Scott said. "It's great to have Brian back. He's a great coach. The important word is stability."

Perhaps no player was happier than quarterback Kyle Boller, who has received unwavering support from Billick despite struggling for much of his three seasons in the league.

"I'm excited. Brian has been behind me through everything, when a lot of coaches would have given up on me," Boller said. "It's a great move by the organization."

Although the heat on Billick appeared to substantially subside in the wake of the Ravens' first winning streak since November 2004, he was delighted to have his status addressed before the conclusion of the season.

"Things happen very quickly at the end of the season," Billick said. "It just seemed like the right thing to do at the right time." Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.

Bolts Wayback
12-29-2005, 09:28 AM
Does anyone out there possibly know what happened to the Rookie Tight End Landon Trusty?? I saw where he was released from the active roster, but I never saw where he was resigned to the Practice Squad. I was told by a friend of mine that he was traveling with the team last weekend in Kansas City!! What gives???

ftwbolt
12-29-2005, 05:25 PM
By Adam Schefter Special to NFL.com

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9120861


(Dec. 28, 2005) -- Lost in all the talk about all the possible head-coaching changes are the candidates that could step in. Multiple NFL executives believe the coaching talent pool is shallow, and it's one reason why the number of changes might not be as high as initially forecasted.

Already, Baltimore Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti has announced that his head coach, Brian Billick, will return next season.

"We have an ongoing and extensive process to find ways to win," Bisciotti said. "This included a thorough evaluation of Brian Billick. Collectively we concluded that continuing with Brian as the head coach gives us the best opportunity to win."

The key phrase there is, continuing with Billick. Other teams might opt to continue with their head coaches as well, figuring it gives them a better chance to win.

But then there is history to consider. Only once since 1990 has the NFL witnessed a year in which there were double-digit head-coaching changes. If events unfold a certain way -- and no one hopes they will -- there could be double-digit head-coaching changes for the first time since 1996.

Back then, after the '96 season, there were a preposterous 11 changes.

Recent history has been nearly as brutal. In four of the past six years, there have been seven head-coaching changes. But last season there were only three -- the lowest number in the past two decades.

It is one reason why some are forecasting this to be a particularly tumultuous year. A league that has averaged 6.4 head-coaching changes over the past 15 years had only three in 2004. The three last season plus 10 this season would yield the two-year total of 13, right around the average. And it would surprise very few if that is where the number landed this season.

Here is a look at the number of head-coaching changes we have seen every year since 1990:

1990: 5
1991: 9
1992: 6
1993: 5
1994: 7
1995: 5
1996: 11
1997: 4
1998: 8
1999: 7
2000: 7
2001: 7
2002: 5
2003: 7
2004: 3

Teams that do decide to make changes will be investigating a crop of candidates that includes this year's headliner, Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams.

His name has been linked to potential head-coach openings in Houston and Kansas City, each of which makes sense. Williams coached in Houston, and he grew up and attended high school in Missouri. Even today, Williams still has ties to the Kansas City area. He is regarded as a defensive specialist, but he also is a more seasoned coach after what he experienced in Buffalo.

For his next head-coaching stint, Williams should be considerably improved the way Mike Shanahan was after the Raiders fired him and the Broncos eventually hired him.

ZEROING IN

Once the NFL regular season wraps up Sunday, hunting season will kick off Monday. This year's hot spots can be divided into two categories: high alerts and low alerts. And no matter how anybody wants to categorize a certain coaching situation, the fact remains, there are at least 15 teams with some questions surrounding their head coach and whether he will return.

HIGH ALERTS

Detroit Lions -- Already have made one coaching change, and the second is expected after this season.
Houston Texans -- The big question is not whether Texans coach Dom Capers survives; the big question is whether general manager Charley Casserly does.
Kansas City Chiefs -- Once the Chiefs wrap up their playoff push, Dick Vermeil is expected to step down.
Minnesota Vikings -- Even Vikings coach Mike Tice has declared himself a "lame duck," new owner Zygi Wilf will have the final say.
New Orleans Saints -- One way or another, it seems highly unlikely that Jim Haslett will fulfill the final year on his contract.
Oakland Raiders -- The Raiders are winless in their division for first time since Al Davis took over as team owner in 1963.
St. Louis Rams -- St. Louis does not intend to bring back either Mike Martz or his interim replacement, Joe Vitt.

LOW ALERTS

Arizona Cardinals -- Cardinals coach Dennis Green is not going to be happy about the pressure he is going to feel to make changes to his coaching staff.
Buffalo Bills -- Mike Mularkey still has three years left on his contract, which helps his cause. But at about $1.4 million per year, Bills owner Ralph Wilson could decide change is necessary.
Dallas Cowboys -- At 64, Bill Parcells could trade his Cowboys for horses.
Green Bay Packers -- The prevailing wisdom is that Packers coach Mike Sherman will be given another chance.
Indianapolis Colts -- Tony Dungy has talked about joining the ministry and spending more time with his children. This might be the right time to do it.
New York Jets -- Only way Herman Edwards leaves is if another team surrenders compensation to Jets owner Woody Johnson to get him.
Washington Redskins -- Just as Parcells could walk at any time, so too could Joe Gibbs, even with the great success he is enjoying.

TUNA SALAD

All this chatter about Parcells is, despite his protestations, warranted.

Remember: Parcells has one year remaining on his Cowboys deal, and he never has finished one of his coaching contracts.

Health issues forced him to leave the Giants after New York won Super Bowl XXV. Control issues forced him out of New England after the Patriots lost Super Bowl XXXI. Then a variety of issues forced Parcells off the Jets sideline and into their general manager's chair after the 1999 season.

Parcells' track record is one of the main reasons why the speculation about his future is justified.

ftwbolt
12-29-2005, 07:59 PM
The idea of suggesting a football venue at Chavez Ravine angers those who back the Coliseum plan.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-mccourt29dec29,1,5352483.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports&ctrack=1&cset=true

By Bill Shaikin and Alan Abrahamson, Times Staff Writers


The Dodgers met with NFL officials twice this fall to discuss the prospect of an NFL stadium next to Dodger Stadium, prompting expressions of frustration and outrage Wednesday among civic leaders who have rallied behind the Coliseum at a time when the league appears close to selecting a stadium site in Southern California.

"I am disappointed and disturbed by both the NFL and the Dodgers — but much more by the Dodgers," said county Supervisor Zev Yaroslavsky, a member of the Coliseum Commission.

In one meeting in October and another in November, the Dodgers are believed to have floated the concept of a football stadium and retail complex in the Dodger Stadium parking lot, with Dodger owner Frank McCourt interested in owning the NFL team that would play there.

Neither McCourt nor NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue attended the meetings, league spokesman Greg Aiello said Wednesday.

The Coliseum and Anaheim are nearing completion of negotiations with the NFL, and league owners could authorize a stadium agreement with one as soon as March.

"We told the McCourt group we were not interested in proceeding unless we're unable to close deals with the Coliseum and Anaheim," Aiello said. "There are no further discussions planned. There are no next steps. We're not negotiating with them."

Aiello called the talks with the Dodgers "exploratory and preliminary" and said they were held at the Dodgers' request. In a statement, McCourt said the interest was mutual.

"I'm a strong supporter of bringing the NFL to Los Angeles," McCourt said. "I have made it abundantly clear I support the Coliseum as the site for the NFL's new stadium. Exploratory conversations were mutually agreed to under this premise.

"There are many what-if scenarios out there. None of those plans has been endorsed by me. So long as the Coliseum is a viable site, Dodger Stadium is not a competing venue."

The meetings were first reported in Wednesday's Boston Herald.

McCourt has been interested in a possible NFL stadium and other development on the parking lot surrounding Dodger Stadium since he bought the Dodgers nearly two years ago. But, in the decade since the Rams and Raiders left town, civic leaders have united behind the Coliseum, pressuring AEG to drop plans for an NFL stadium near Staples Center and persuading former Dodger owner Peter O'Malley to abandon plans for one at Dodger Stadium.

Howard Sunkin, the Dodgers' senior vice president of public affairs, met with the NFL on behalf of the team. Sunkin, a veteran Los Angeles political consultant, joined the Dodgers last year, in part to help McCourt with government issues. Dodger spokeswoman Camille Johnston said Sunkin had not approached civic leaders or community groups about the feasibility of an NFL stadium on Dodger property because no formal plan had been developed.

The City Council, Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger all have publicly endorsed the Coliseum.

"I've got to believe he [McCourt] didn't understand the depth and the extent of the community consensus behind the Coliseum as the site for an NFL team in Los Angeles," Villaraigosa said.

Yaroslavsky said the Dodgers had "broken ranks with what has been a united community — the business, sports, political and environmental communities, all of them behind the Coliseum project."

Councilman Ed Reyes, whose district includes Dodger Stadium, said he would not support a football stadium there and noted that McCourt had promised to keep elected officials and community leaders informed of any potential development on the site. Reyes said McCourt had not spoken with him about an NFL stadium.

"If he's making these overtures, it's a big blow to the folks who are building a level of trust with him," Reyes said. "That's important when you're dealing with issues of that scale."

McCourt and other officials have met regularly with the Solano Canyon community group but have not broached the idea of an NFL stadium, spokeswoman Alicia Brown said. The group opposes a football stadium, concerned the traffic and noise would overwhelm the community.

"Mr. McCourt has been sensitive enough to meet with us. He has shown concern about our community," Brown said. "He said, 'If a stadium should ever come into the discussion, you would be the first to know.' "

O'Malley's NFL plans included easing traffic by offering trolley service from Union Station and shuttle service from downtown parking lots otherwise unused on Sundays, said sports facilities consultant Marc Ganis of SportsCorp in Chicago.

The NFL has long coveted the Dodger Stadium site, he said, preferring a new stadium to a revamped Coliseum. However, he said, the league cannot publicly embrace that concept or encourage McCourt because of the local opposition.

"Why should they muck up the water with something that has a low probability of being acceptable?" Ganis said.

"The Dodger Stadium site is arguably the best site for the NFL in the entire Southern California area. Politically, it's D.O.A."

The Dodgers acknowledged as much in a Dec. 5 letter from Sunkin to NFL senior vice president Neil Glat. The one-sentence letter, according to Johnston: "This letter will confirm our mutual agreement that, so long as the Coliseum is a viable site for the NFL's new stadium in Los Angeles, Dodger Stadium should not be considered for a competing venue."

Shamrock
12-29-2005, 08:46 PM
The fricking NFL doesn't just pit cities against each other, Tags and his henchmen pit suburbs vs cities ....

Tags has gotten too big for his britches, and the owners need to reel him in.

JoeMcRugby
12-29-2005, 09:11 PM
The fricking NFL doesn't just pit cities against each other, Tags and his henchmen pit suburbs vs cities ....

Tags has gotten too big for his britches, and the owners need to reel him in.

I wouldn't call Elysian Park a suburb. It's smack dab in LA City, about three miles from City Hall and the skyscrapers.

But you knew this was happening from the moment McCourt bought the Dodgers. His first priority is to make money developing the valuable real estate he acquired with borrowed money in the Dodgers purchase, not to win ballgames with the baseball team.

And what could make him more money than having the LA stadium built adjacent to his development composed of shops/restaurants/hotels?

I saw this coming three years ago. :rolleyes:

Shamrock
12-29-2005, 09:19 PM
I wouldn't call Elysian Park a suburb. It's smack dab in LA City, about three miles from City Hall and the skyscrapers.
LA South Central (Mausoleum)
Pasadena (Rose Bowl)
Anaheim (New Big A or whatever they call it)
Chavez Ravine (Dodger Stadium)

When are they going to talk to Irwindale again? Did I miss any?

I'd say that a minimum of four sites, with separate governing entities over each, is playing sides against one another. :p

JoeMcRugby
12-29-2005, 09:23 PM
No doubt that they play everyone against each other, Shammy.

I found myself in disbelief that the NFL really was looking at plunking down $500 million to build their "state of the art" LA stadium at the Mausoleum.

Can't you just see the corporate big-wigs hanging out all day and night in the surrounding restaurants, nightclubs and shops to be built at Exposition Park during Super Bowl week and Sunday & Monday Night football games? Can't think of a better place to spend my nights, myself. ;)

BTW The one you can't pin on Tags is Irwindale. That was Al Davis' $10 million "Thanks for the $10 million in cash, suckers" grab. Unbelievable that any group/city can be that stupid!! :rolleyes:

drangus
12-29-2005, 09:26 PM
Does anyone out there possibly know what happened to the Rookie Tight End Landon Trusty?? I saw where he was released from the active roster, but I never saw where he was resigned to the Practice Squad. I was told by a friend of mine that he was traveling with the team last weekend in Kansas City!! What gives???

he was resigned to the practice squad--they just never udated that on chargers.com roster or transactions

don't worry he is around--it was listed on the proweekly NFL transactions summary

Shamrock
12-29-2005, 09:28 PM
Can't you just see the corporate big-wigs hanging out all day and night in the surrounding restaurants, nightclubs and shops to be built at Exposition Park? Can't think of a better place to spend my nights, myself. ;)
Yeah. Real fun evening ..... :)

I've been there about 20 times. Some for Rams or Raiders vs. Chargers, and a bunch of Irish vs. USC games in the 70's-90's. And a concert or two (The Who in 82 or 83.)

Anyway, everytime my Dad and I would go, we'd pay some guys to watch out car. Never had a problem. People that didn't pay sometimes had problems. Maybe things have changed, but I don't remember wanting to stay down there after dark. I'm surprised USC plays night games. The NFL didn't allow Raiders games at night for a few years because of "problems" after games.

Shamrock
12-29-2005, 09:30 PM
BTW The one you can't pin on Tags is Irwindale. That was Al Davis' $10 million "Thanks for the $10 million in cash, suckers" grab. Unbelievable that any group/city can be that stupid!! :rolleyes:

That was Real Estate/business speculation at its finest. Alibi Al tried doing something similar to Sacramento or some other city up there, and they balked. I think that was one of the court cases...... maybe not. Sorry, I get confused on his legal history. :)

drangus
12-30-2005, 12:38 AM
I heard something over the course of this season on one of those countless and meaningless shows on ESPN-that has really made me revaluate our football team--all season long I have been perplexed by lack of consistency on this team-one week we look like champion and another like a chump--one of the analysts (I think it was dikta) said "inconsistency on a football team can always be traced to the performance of the offensive line"--right away a light went off in my head and I began to pay more attention to the performance of our O-line

I went back and watched ALL the games since the beginning of the season--I realize that there have been some injuries and even a trade--when you really think about it the O-line was the only unit that had issues before the season began, Fonoti was a distraction and every offseason was an adventure with this guy--I believe in AJs system for building a team and he has found pieces of the puzzle here and there with uncanny ability--I am not saying that O-line has been neglected, all I want to say is that the biggest glaring difference between last year and this year was the performance of our O-line--the drama with fonoti and losing H.H. both played a role-HOWEVER-it is high time that O-line becomes a priority--we have high picks everywhere else on the roster except on O-line--the improvements on defense can be traced to the investments that have been made on top choices in the draft and a couple of key FA acquisitions

our D-line is comprised of two #2's and one #1

our O-line is comprised of two retreads (both former #3's), one #7, a #3, and an UFA

it is unfortunate (and not AJs fault) that the most physically talented (and highest drafted (2nd rounder))player that we had on O-line was lost due to a lack of maturity and professionalism

The proof is in the pudding--it is time to make the O-line a priority on this team--the skill position players are better than on most teams in the league-drew, tomlinson, and gates-are great players but they can't take the next step with the bargain basement swapmeet offensive line anymore

the O-line needs to be infused with talent this offseason!

all of the teams in the playoffs this year have a least one #1 pick on there O-line and one team has three #1's

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the last time the chargers drafted an offensive lineman in the first round was 1986!!!

in the last 20 years they have drafted 4 guys in the 2nd round and 4 guys in the 3rd round--that could easily be a league low over that span--drafting one O-lineman every third year in the 3rd or 2nd round is not going to cut it in this league

these were the picks

1989 courtny hall center----2nd round great player retired too early

1990 Leo Goeas guard------3rd round never made an impact

1991 Eric Moten guard-----2nd round could have been great injuries shortened his career

1993 Joe Cocozzo guard----3rd round was OK player

1994 Vaughn Parker tackle---2nd rounder by far the best on this list

notice the gap here between O-line picks--there could still be one or two guys on this roster from this 6 year stretch

2000 Damion McIntosh tackle---3rd rounder didn't want to stay in SD

2002 Toniu Fonoti guard------2nd rounder no need to remind

2003 Courtney VanBuren-------3rd we took a chance on injured player he had knee problems since college it was in all the scouting reports--he is probably done

five of these guys were picked in 1995 or earlier!!! so that leaves us with 3, yes 3!!! picks in the the last 10 years--one in the 2nd round and 2 in the third round

I don't care how pessimistic you are about drafting O-line early--but teams are built through the draft and the O-line is the heart or lungs of any team--So how do you build a team without drafting O-linemen?
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just for comparisons' sake I did a little analysis of the seattle offensive line this is what I found out

there starting left tackle (walter jones) was the 6th overall pick in the 97' draft

there starting left guard (steve hutchinson) was the 17th overall pick in the 2001 draft

there starting center (robbie tobeck) was originally a UFA in 1993 and they signed him in 2000 as a FA, tobeck is a 12 year vet NOTE: tobeck beat out the 26th (chris spencer) overall pick in the 2005 draft for the job--but spencer is being groomed to take over

their starting right guard (chris gray) was originally a 5th rounder in 1993 so he is also a 12 year vet NOTE: he beat out 2001 3rd rounder floyd womack for the job--but womack is being groomed to take over

their starting right tackle (sean locklear) ws originally a 3rd rounder in 2004 NOTE: he beat out 2003 3rd rounder wayne hunter for the job--hunter has experience and is currently the #1 B/U at tackle on both sides of the line

what does this have to do with the chargers?

seattle has higher drafted B/Us than our starters!!! and by next year they will feature 3 #1 picks from left to right and two #3 picks at RG and RT also a #3 will be there top B/U at tackle--compare that with what I wrote up top--they have made and continue to make Offensive line a priority in the draft

shaun alexander is a good back--not the best back in the league by any stretch--but that philosophy of drafting for O-line high in seattle is about to net them the league MVP award for alexander

it won't really matter what we do at QB if we don't improve our O-line

drangus
12-30-2005, 03:47 AM
you guys should read this

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20051230-9999-lz1s30brees.html

wikimama
12-30-2005, 09:07 AM
That is a really lame article, they just tell you what you already know.

ftwbolt
12-30-2005, 07:09 PM
Two team executives and prominent New York real estate developer made proposal to league officials.

December 30, 2005
By Bill Shaikin, Times Staff Writer

http://www.latimes.com/sports/printedition/la-sp-mccourt30dec30,1,1813523.story?coll=la-headlines-pe-sports

As the Dodgers stumbled through two months without a manager this fall, the organizational vision extended far beyond the diamond.

They assigned the code name "Five Ton Gorilla" to a secret proposal to remake the landscape of sports in Los Angeles and the image of owner Frank McCourt, pitching the NFL on ditching the Coliseum for a new stadium in Chavez Ravine, and signing up with one of the nation's top real estate developers to create a retail and entertainment complex in the Dodger Stadium parking lot.

In proposing McCourt acquire an NFL team, the Dodgers reportedly suggested the league wanted to move the Houston Texans to Los Angeles.

"That statement has as much credibility as the idea of the Dodgers returning to Brooklyn," league spokesman Greg Aiello said Thursday.

The NFL and the Dodgers confirmed this week the parties held two meetings this fall about the possibility of building a football stadium next to the complex. Both sides characterized the discussions as preliminary and, amid an outcry from Los Angeles civic leaders, said the talks had ceased unless and until the NFL failed to reach a deal with the Coliseum.

Yet the Dodgers were serious enough to present a proposal that involved Larry Silverstein, a prominent New York real estate developer heading the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site. Silverstein joined two Dodger executives in meeting with NFL officials, and several sources said Thursday his firm could have built all but the football stadium in a project estimated at 1 million square feet.

The suggestion about moving the Texans was one of several details reported Thursday by the Boston Herald, which said it obtained confidential Dodger memoranda in an anonymous mailing. Dodger spokeswoman Camille Johnston confirmed the authenticity of the documents but would not answer questions about any details.

Among the details: The Dodgers proposed building a 65,000-seat football stadium — too small by NFL standards for a Super Bowl — for about $600 million, using revenues from naming rights, personal seat licenses and concession contracts so as to "effectively spend other peoples' cash" to finance construction.

The NFL appeared receptive to McCourt's building a stadium on Dodger property but reluctant to grant him a team, according to an executive summary prepared by the Dodgers. "We indicated there was no desire to move forward with this project unless Frank would be in control of both the stadium and the team," the summary read.

McCourt has long been concerned about his image within the community and last season hired Sitrick and Co., a public relations firm best known for crisis management. An internal memo claimed McCourt could bask in the "psychic benefits of being the guy that brought football to L.A.," and an advisor told McCourt the project would so wow the NFL that the proposal would be "largely a sales effort which we should achieve very easily."

The memos also advised McCourt not to attend the NFL meetings — he did not — because "distance/deniability is not a bad thing" and warned he would face "heat" if the talks became public.

Johnston called the memos "a summary of things discussed" and prepared for McCourt.

"What's in the documents should not be put in the category of something endorsed by Frank McCourt," Johnston said.

If McCourt has not endorsed those proposals, and if he supports the Coliseum, as he said in a statement Wednesday, why would he authorize Dodger executives to meet with the NFL twice about a possible football stadium on Dodger property?

"Exploratory meetings were held to know what all the scenarios were" about the viability of the Coliseum and the possible alternative of Dodger Stadium, Johnston said. Because the Dodgers and the NFL agreed the focus would remain on the Coliseum, Johnston said, "Everything in those plans is moot."

Johnston said the documents had been stolen and that the Dodgers plan to file a police report on Tuesday.

The Dodgers discovered the theft three weeks ago, when a copy of the documents was returned to the team.

The Dodgers did not file the report at that time, she said, but did initiate an investigation in an unsuccessful effort to solve the theft before the documents were widely distributed and publicized.

Los Angeles Police Dept. Lt. Paul Vernon said the Dodgers have reported a "theft from the organization" and said detectives would meet with team officials after the relevant executives return from the holidays.

The LAPD does not know what specific items were taken, he said.

Times staff writers Sam Farmer and Richard Winton contributed to this report.

Shamrock
12-30-2005, 07:19 PM
The Texans aren't going any where. That's more East Coast fantasy. Why would they suggest a team that has a new stadium and a long lease? Fricking idiots.

JoeMcRugby
12-30-2005, 07:24 PM
What did I tell you, Shammy? ;) :rolleyes:

But you knew this was happening from the moment McCourt bought the Dodgers. His first priority is to make money developing the valuable real estate he acquired with borrowed money in the Dodgers purchase, not to win ballgames with the baseball team.

And what could make him more money than having the LA stadium built adjacent to his development composed of shops/restaurants/hotels?

I saw this coming three years ago. :rolleyes:

Two team executives and prominent New York real estate developer made proposal to league officials.

They assigned the code name "Five Ton Gorilla" to a secret proposal to remake the landscape of sports in Los Angeles and the image of owner Frank McCourt, pitching the NFL on ditching the Coliseum for a new stadium in Chavez Ravine, and signing up with one of the nation's top real estate developers to create a retail and entertainment complex in the Dodger Stadium parking lot.

...

Yet the Dodgers were serious enough to present a proposal that involved Larry Silverstein, a prominent New York real estate developer heading the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site. Silverstein joined two Dodger executives in meeting with NFL officials, and several sources said Thursday his firm could have built all but the football stadium in a project estimated at 1 million square feet.

...

Among the details: The Dodgers proposed building a 65,000-seat football stadium — too small by NFL standards for a Super Bowl — for about $600 million, using revenues from naming rights, personal seat licenses and concession contracts so as to "effectively spend other peoples' cash" to finance construction.

Shamrock
12-30-2005, 07:33 PM
What did I tell you, Shammy? ;) :rolleyes:
Joe -

Please don't drink the water in the LA Basement. Please. I'm only suggesting this for your own health and sanity. Something is wrong with the cognitive reasoning functions of some LA residents.

foober will be honored to send you a case of well water.

ftwbolt
12-30-2005, 07:39 PM
12/30/2005 12:00 AM
Tom Orsborn
Express-News Staff Writer

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/nfl/stories/MYSA123005.01A.FBN_Tagliabue_advance.1d1be56a.html

New Orleans Saints owner Tom Benson and NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue have reached an agreement to return the displaced team to its state-owned training facility in Metairie, La., after the season ends Sunday, sources have told the San Antonio Express-News.

Tagliabue is expected to inform the team's players and coaches of the decision when he meets with them today in San Antonio, said sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

League spokesman Greg Aiello declined comment Thursday night.

The agreement likely eliminates the possibility of the Saints playing home games at the Alamodome in 2006.

City officials had hoped the league would allow the Saints to play most of their games in San Antonio after the team averaged 62,666 for its three games at the dome this season and only 40,310 for four games at Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, La.

Aiello said the league would announce the Saints' schedule in January. Benson said last week the team would practice in the state where it would play its games.

The Saints likely will play most of their home schedule in Baton Rouge and perhaps the Louisiana Superdome, which Pelican State officials say could be ready for use by November.

Scheduling conflicts in Louisiana, however, could send the Saints back to the Alamodome for some games.

Benson, who has long-standing personal and business ties to San Antonio, is said to have fears the Saints would struggle to attract fans and generate revenue in New Orleans given the economic shape of the city after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita.

San Antonio, meanwhile, has a growing corporate base that includes business leaders hungry to secure an NFL franchise.

But the league reportedly is ready to help the Saints financially. Tagliabue said a plan to subsidize the Saints with revenue from visiting teams' shares of gate receipts has been discussed with league owners. Assistance also might be given to the Saints in attracting free agents.

The NFL commissioner repeatedly has said that the Saints belong in Louisiana and that he wants the team to participate in the rebuilding of the area ravaged by Hurricane Katrina.

But the agreement to return to Metairie doesn't rule out the possibility of an attempt by Benson after 2006 to relocate his team permanently to San Antonio.

The Saints' lease agreement with the state of Louisiana to play at the Superdome includes an exit clause that has a Jan. 15, 2007, deadline and could be exercised without penalty.

A return to Metairie would give the Saints a first-class NFL practice facility, something they lack in San Antonio.

Because of scheduling conflicts at the Alamodome, the Saints were forced late in the season to practice at the San Antonio Independent School District Spring Sports Complex near Burbank High School.

While the Alamodome has enough vacancies to host a full NFL home schedule next season, building manager Mike Abington said scheduling conflicts in October and December once again would force the Saints to look for other practice venues.

Tagliabue arrived in San Antonio late Thursday and was greeted at his downtown hotel by former San Antonio Mayor Henry Cisneros.

Tagliabue and other officials plan to address players and coaches this morning at the team's temporary headquarters near the Alamodome. The meeting is the first between the parties since Katrina ripped through New Orleans four months ago and forced the team to move operations to the Alamo City.

NFL vice presidents Joe Browne, Mike Haynes, Roger Goodell and Jeff Pash accompanied Tagliabue to San Antonio. The party also plans to meet with Benson and other team officials.

Tagliabue could receive a chilly reception from Saints players angry that no decision has been announced about where the team would train and practice next season. Several players also have criticized Tagliabue for not meeting with them sooner.

"The guys just feel like he let us down," offensive lineman Wayne Gandy said. Today "is the last day of (practice), and that's almost four months since we've been here. And at no point in those four months did he find the time to stop by. It almost feels like it's just a PR move at this point."

Gandy said the meeting could get "outrageous," a view shared by several players.

"I'm sure there's a lot of frustration on guys' chests that they want to get off, and I'm sure he'll hear it," receiver Joe Horn said.

Aiello, the NFL spokesman, said Tagliabue wanted to meet with the players sooner, but club officials "rejected" his attempts.

"He tried several times and was turned away," Aiello said. "He was told it wasn't necessary, that the organization didn't think it was a good idea."

Team officials have asked the players to be respectful of Tagliabue. Aiello said Tagliabue would attempt to answer all of the players' questions.

"He wants to share with them his perspective on what has happened and where they go from here," Aiello said. "He wants to have a dialogue with them and hear their concerns and suggestions about how things can be better next year."

ftwbolt
12-30-2005, 07:42 PM
Tagliabue, NFL seem to have stronger position in courtroom
Friday, December 30, 2005
By Jeff Duncan Staff writer

http://www.nola.com/sports/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-21/1135926144299960.xml

Tom Benson's chances of winning a legal fight against the NFL to keep the Saints in San Antonio are about as good as his team's chances of winning the Super Bowl, legal experts familiar with such cases say.

Benson has remained tight-lipped about his intentions, but privately he's told staff and associates he'd like to keep the team in San Antonio and is willing to fight the league if necessary.

"I don't think Tom Benson has a snowball's chance in hell of winning an antitrust suit against the NFL," said Gary Roberts, the deputy dean of the Tulane University Law School and a noted expert on sports law.

It likely won't come to that.

NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue has met with Benson several times since Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans on Aug. 29 and forced the Saints to move to San Antonio for the season. The commissioner will meet with Benson today when he visits the team's temporary facility in San Antonio. Tagliabue hopes to announce where the team will play its home games next season by mid-January.

The NFL constitution provides for league decision-making on relocation of clubs, and specifically states that no club may "transfer its franchise or playing site to a different city" without approval by a vote of three-fourths of the members of the league, 24 of 32.

Former Minnesota Vikings owner Red McCombs told the San Antonio Express-News on Wednesday that NFL owners would back Benson if he requested to relocate permanently to San Antonio.

Roberts disagrees. He noted the recent hiring of longtime league ally Eddie Jones as the NFL's point person in New Orleans and the make-up of the eight-owner New Orleans Advisory Committee. The members of the committee, which was appointed by Tagliabue in October to study the situation, are Denver's Pat Bowlen, Kansas City's Lamar Hunt, New England's Robert Kraft, Philadelphia's Jeff Lurie, Chicago's Mike McCaskey, Carolina's Jerry Richardson, Pittsburgh's Dan Rooney and Jacksonville's Wayne Weaver.

"Paul Tagliabue has outflanked Tom Benson," Roberts said. "Look at who's on the (New Orleans advisory) committee. It's a group of traditional, old-line people that are close to the commissioner and believe strongly in league stability. The commissioner has stacked the deck in his favor."

Failure to win league approval could force Benson to file an antitrust lawsuit against the NFL, claiming the league has prevented him from fair competition by blocking his move to San Antonio.

In Benson's favor is a 1982 decision in which the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the NFL's bid to block Oakland Raiders owner Al Davis from moving the team to Los Angeles was an unreasonable restraint of trade under the Sherman Act.

Since then, six NFL teams have relocated, but in each case the league was able to negotiate deals that avoided antitrust suits.

Meanwhile, the NFL and other professional sports leagues have tightened their policies regarding franchise relocation.

Since taking the reigns as commissioner in 1989, Tagliabue, a former attorney who specialized in antitrust law at the firm of Covington & Burling in Washington, D.C., has been the catalyst behind establishing the relocation criteria.

"Paul Tagliabue's position is you've got to have some stability here," said Rob Baade, a professor of sports economics at Lake Forest (Ill.) College. "You can't just have owners following their urges to go anywhere they want, because these teams operate in the public interest."

NFL officials have said their goal is for the Saints to play as many games as possible in New Orleans next season.

"The key to this whole situation is what the NFL wants to do," said Stephen Ross, a law professor at the University of Illinois and one of the nation's leading experts on antitrust law. "History has shown that the league can pretty much do what it wants to do in these cases."

San Antonio officials, however, are not giving up.

Mayor Phil Hardberger told the San Antonio Express-News this week he will meet with Benson after the season, and he plans to advise Benson to pursue legal action against the league.

"I don't know if (Benson) is prepared to fight, but I would if I was in his shoes," said Hardberger, a former chief justice of the 4th Court of Appeals in Texas. "There is a precedent of a team saying, 'We aren't going to do what the NFL wants us to do,' and I think that team won, not the NFL."

Antitrust laws, written at the end of the 19th century to encourage competitive markets and punish restraint of trade, are difficult to apply to disputes about modern-day sports franchises. The laws have enough ambiguities to be interpreted in many ways, experts say.

For example, the courts found different interpretations of the competitive nature of sports leagues in the 1982 Raiders case, the 1987 San Diego Clippers case against the NBA and the 1974 case involving the NHL's attempt to halt the move of the Golden State Seals.

In the Raiders' case, the courts held that the teams themselves were competitive units. The courts maintained in the Seals' case that the teams were all a part of a single competitive unit, the league.

In the Clippers' case, the court ruled that ". . . a careful analysis of Raiders I makes it clear that franchise movement restrictions are not invalid as a matter of law."

"The Raiders case really is not applicable (to a potential Saints case)," said Ross, the University of Illinois professor. "If Benson sued the NFL, he would have to prove the competition is reduced by having the team stay in New Orleans. That's a stretch . . . I am extremely confident if the league tries to keep the team in New Orleans that the league would ultimately prevail."

Roberts agreed.

"I think that in any neutral forum, where the court and jury did not have an ax to grind or political predisposition to an outcome, that the Saints should and would lose," Roberts said. "I don't think they have a legal leg to stand on. Having said that, many (franchise relocation cases) tend to be more political passion plays than they are legal lawsuits. If (Benson) were to try the case in San Antonio, it's not out of the question that he could win it."

Roberts pointed to the 1994 case in which the NBA blocked a proposed move by the Minnesota Timberwolves to New Orleans. The key to the league's success in that case, he said, was voting against the move and immediately filing for a declaratory judgment blocking it in a friendly Minnesota court.

The NFL could employ a similar strategy if it thinks Benson plans to fight.

"It may be as much a race to the courthouse as it is about the legal merits to the case," Roberts said. "If it gets to court, the league will win that standoff. Tom Benson is not gong to outmaneuver Paul Tagliabue. Al Davis 25 years ago is one thing. But Tom Benson is another."

. . . . . . .



A victory is possible. But it's a long shot.



http://www.sptimes.com/2005/12/30/Bucs/Success_includes_winn.shtml

HASLETT HAS-BEEN?: Jim Haslett may coach his last game for the Saints on Sunday.

Haslett, whose team is 3-12, did not paint a rosy picture of his future with the team during a conference call Thursday with Tampa Bay media, saying what happens is up to general manager Mickey Loomis and owner Tom Benson.

"I don't know what's going to happen, to be honest with you," Haslett said. "I just know this, under the circumstances, going back and forth, running around and playing 16 away games, I'm not really fired up about doing that again. I'd just like to have an opportunity to win games as a football coach. The situation that we were put in, or possibly could be put in next year, I don't know if that's an ideal situation for a coach."

Shamrock
12-30-2005, 07:47 PM
In other words, Tags and Benson are going to torture the Louisiana football fans with a slow and painful death.... instead of just doing what needs to be done and moving them now.

Sooner or later, there will be no football in New Orleans.

ftwbolt
12-30-2005, 08:35 PM
He can return to Ravens if not hired as coach
By Jamison Hensley Sun reporter
December 30, 2005

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravens30dec30001545,1,631236.story?coll=bal-sports-headlines

A day after being retained as coach, Brian Billick assured there would be continuity elsewhere.

Billick said yesterday that Jim Fassel would "absolutely" return as the team's offensive coordinator next season unless he receives a head coaching job this offseason.

There had been speculation that Fassel was among the coaches who could be leaving after the Ravens' disappointing season.

"We're going to be very supportive of Jim's looking and hopefully being able to procure a head coaching job. If indeed that doesn't happen, Jim will be back next year," Billick said. "Some of the speculation I've seen is just that because Jim and I have already had discussions about some of the things we need to do [for next season]."

According to a league source, the Minnesota Vikings likely would show interest in Fassel if they decide to fire coach Mike Tice. The Oakland Raiders, who probably would want an established offensive coach if they part ways with Norv Turner, could be another logical fit.

There is a possibility that Fassel could explore offers from colleges, which he refused to do last season.

Fassel declined to talk after practice, saying he wants to focus on Sunday's season finale in Cleveland before discussing his future plans.

If Fassel is able to land a head coaching job, Billick indicated that quarterbacks coach Rick Neuheisel would be promoted to coordinator. Neuheisel is finishing his first season in the NFL, but he was 66-30 over eight college seasons at Colorado and Washington.

"One of the reasons I brought Rick in is that continuity could be sustained because he has been here for a year," Billick said. "We've made it clear that Rick will be the coordinator for that very reason."

After seven seasons as head coach of the New York Giants, Fassel joined the Ravens as a consultant in 2004 before replacing Matt Cavanaugh as offensive coordinator this season.

The Ravens, which had ranked last in the NFL in scoring for a bulk of the season, have jumped up to No. 25 after putting up 78 points in the past two games.

Under Fassel, the biggest improvement has been the passing game. After finishing 31st last season, the Ravens have moved to No. 21.

Overall, the Ravens are averaging 21.6 yards more than last season but 3.2 fewer points.

"Jim was brought in to make the changes that needed to be made schematically, emotionally, strategically and fundamentally for us to go forward in conjunction with some very good coaches," Billick said. "They collectively and Jim individually deserve all the credit for the improvements that we've seen. We've got a lot of work ahead of us."


NOTES // There were no changes to the Ravens' injury report. Tight end Daniel Wilcox and linebacker Mike Smith, both of whom remain doubtful, are the two most likely players to miss Sunday's game. ... In a vote among local print and broadcast media, linebacker Adalius Thomas won the team Most Valuable Player and running back Jamal Lewis received the "Good Guy" award for his cooperation with reporters.



Whisenhunt in hunt to replace Capers?

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports//s_408768.html

By Joe Bendel TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, December 30, 2005

Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt's name was thrown into the mix as a possible replacement for Houston coach Dom Capers, who is expected to be fired after the Texans' season finale against San Francisco on Sunday. The Houston Chronicle listed him as a potential candidate for the job, along with several other coordinators, including Gary Kubiak of Denver, Jerry Gray of Buffalo and Ron Rivera of Chicago, among others.

Edwards would like to have an extended stay with Jets
Friday, December 30, 2005
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1135922969242010.xml&coll=1

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- Jets coach Herman Edwards said all the right things yesterday when asked about the latest rumor that has him headed to Kansas City to replace Dick Vermeil, should Vermeil retire after this season.

He said he is happy to be coach of the Jets and eager to return next season to retool a team ravaged by injuries. He said the Jets were the victim of an unlucky season, not a culture of losing, and he's close to finalizing his off-season schedule.

Some people close to the coach, however, tell a different story.

According to them, Edwards is unhappy with a contract that has two years remaining and he wants an extension. He fears that the Jets' rebuilding job is more than a one-year undertaking and he wants security.

Edwards, in his fifth season as Jets coach, is making close to $2 million a season (he was bumped up from $1.3 million three years ago), which is in the bottom third for coaches in the NFL. The average salary for a head coach is believed to be roughly $3 million per season and it's even higher for playoff-caliber coaches, which Edwards feels he is, this season notwithstanding.

Edwards' representatives are expected to meet with Jets owner Woody Johnson after the season and, if Johnson refuses to give Edwards an extension, Edwards may decide he wants out. But Johnson has made it quite clear that Edwards is his guy.

Edwards is said to feel he has proven himself with three playoff appearances in his first four seasons and a 35-29 regular-season mark entering this season, a year in which Edwards, many feel, should be given a mulligan because of the injuries.

His leverage?

Although the Jets (3-12) have been terrible at times this season -- they lost quarterbacks Chad Pennington and Jay Fiedler in Week 3 -- everyone in the NFL knows the hardships Edwards has faced. Yet, he has kept his team competitive most weeks and united.

As a result, Edwards remains highly thought of and several teams, including the Chiefs, would be interested in him if he were suddenly on the market.

When asked several hours after his news conference if he was seeking a contract extension, Edwards reiterated that he's happy with the Jets and hopes to be coaching the team a long time. He refused to discuss his contract.

But the fact is, it appears Edwards would be happy with a contract extension or a new mailing address, preferably Kansas City, where he started his pro coaching career. There are expected to be several head coach openings this off-season, including Oakland, Houston, Buffalo, St. Louis, Detroit and, perhaps, New Orleans.

Johnson, who emphatically endorsed Edwards six weeks ago, is extremely fond of the coach and wants him to stay. But if he doesn't want to give Edwards an extension, he does have other options. He could give the coach a raise next season but not an extension and a promise to revisit his contract situation following next season.

During his news conference, Edwards thanked Vermeil for saying this week that he deserves to be Coach of the Year for the job he has done this season, a remark that has sparked the latest firestorm about his future.

Edwards also said the Jets' disastrous season is just one bad year resulting from 12 key players being placed on injured reserve (the Jets were without nine starters the past two weeks). He said he has rebuilt the Jets once following a 6-10 finish in 2003 and he can do it again.

"I addressed that (his future) six weeks ago," Edwards said. "I still stand on what I said. I'm coach of the Jets. The season will end and we'll try to get this thing going in the right direction. ... We have a big hill to climb.

"I've always been happy here. I like it here. ... I'm smart enough to know that sometimes you have seasons like this. I hate to say it but a lot of it isn't my doing. It's just what happened to us. Going into the season, we had high expectations. If things that happened over the last couple of months didn't happen, we'd be sitting in a different seat. But that's not the case."

ftwbolt
01-01-2006, 09:21 AM
Posted on Sun, Jan. 01, 2006
By Charean Williams Star-Telegram Staff Writer

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/columnists/charean_williams/13529032.htm
Monday is Black Monday in the NFL. It's the day NFL owners begin firing coaches.As many as 11 teams could be seeking a new coach:

1. Dom Capers, Texans -- Houston will buy out the final year of his contract and announce his firing early this week. The Texans are expected to have interest in Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, Bills defensive coordinator Jerry Gray, Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis and perhaps Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt.

2. Dick Jauron, Lions -- Matt Millen will return as president, but Jauron, the interim coach since Steve Mariucci was fired after a 4-7 start, probably won't be back. Steelers offensive line coach Russ Grimm has been mentioned as a possible candidate.

3. Mike Sherman, Packers -- Sherman lost all power last January when the Packers hired Ted Thompson as general manager. The Packers, a three-time defending divisional champion, were eliminated from the playoffs Nov. 27, and now, Sherman appears to be finished in Green Bay.

4. Mike Martz, Rams -- The Rams are expected to buy out Martz, who has been on a leave of absence since October because of a bacterial infection of a heart valve.

5. Dick Vermeil, Chiefs -- The Kansas City Star reported that Vermeil, 69, told his team Saturday that he will retire after today's game. He is 43-36 in Kansas City and probably will miss the playoffs for the fourth time in five seasons. The Chiefs' schedule is easier next year, but they will be older, too, with quarterback Trent Green (36 in July), tackle Willie Roaf (36 in April) and receiver Eddie Kennison (33 in January) among them.

6. Jim Haslett, Saints -- Reports indicate that Haslett, who has a year left on his contract, will be fired or will resign if he does not receive a contract extension. But he said last week that he has not discussed his future with owner Tom Benson.

7. Norv Turner, Raiders -- Turner is 9-23, including a 1-11 record against the AFC West, in his two seasons and continues to deflect questions about his future. He has had conversations with owner Al Davis, but nothing definitive has come out of them. If Turner gets the ax, it will be because his offensive expertise failed to generate much out of the trade for receiver Randy Moss.

8. Mike Tice, Vikings -- Owner Zygi Wilf has stayed true to his earlier statements that he will not make a decision on Tice's future until after the season. Wilf has told Tice's agent, Jimmy Sexton, that the two would discuss Tice's future after the season. Contracts for Tice and his entire coaching staff expire Jan. 31.

9. Mike Mularkey, Bills -- President and general manager Tom Donahoe is a goner, but apparently Mularkey will survive to see a third season. He is 14-17.

10. Herman Edwards, Jets -- Last week, Vermeil told Kansas City reporters that "Herman Edwards right now maybe should be voted Coach of the Year." It rekindled rumors that Edwards, who played for Vermeil in Philadelphia, will be Vermeil's replacement. Edwards has two years remaining on his contract and has said he would be back in 2006. He is not expected to be fired, so the Chiefs, in effect, would have to work out a trade.

11. Bill Parcells, Cowboys -- Parcells, 64, denied last week that he has talked to anyone about retiring, which was prompted by an ESPN report. Parcells has one year remaining on his contract.

The Chiefs made a big deal out of their 18-game winning streak for home games in December. What they don't tell you about is their seven consecutive losses in January. Since winning a second-round playoff game in Houston in January 1994, the Chiefs have lost seven consecutive games in January, including four at Arrowhead Stadium, three of which were playoff games.



Lynch lowers boom on San Diego QBs
By BERNIE WILSONTHE ASSOCIATEDPRESS
Posted on Sun, Jan. 01, 2006

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/13529028.htm

SAN DIEGO -- John Lynch sent the San Diego Chargers into a painful off-season.
The Denver safety, who's from San Diego, keyed a 23-7 Broncos win Saturday by knocking Drew Brees out of the game with a shoulder injury, then forcing Philip Rivers to fumble in the end zone, resulting in a safety.
Tatum Bell scored three touchdowns for Denver but was held to 52 yards on 17 carries. He needed 131 yards for 1,000. He and Mike Anderson were trying to become the fourth running back tandem in NFL history to finish with 1,000 yards each.
The game, played on a rainy afternoon in front of a crowd that included thousands of Broncos fans, meant nothing in the standings.
Denver (13-3) had already clinched the AFC West title and a first-round bye. San Diego (9-7), which won the division last year, lost three of its last four games.
LaDainian Tomlinson set two Chargers records.
His 6-yard run in the second quarter was his 20th touchdown of the season, breaking a tie with Chuck Muncie (19 in 1981). He also eclipsed Lance Alworth's team career mark of 9,721 yards from scrimmage, pushing his total to 9,755.
IN THE KNOW BREAKDOWN

Why Denver won: Tatum Bell ran for three TDs, and safety John Lynch recorded two sacks, knocking Drew Brees out of the game with one sack and setting up a safety with the other.
Why San Diego lost: LaDainian Tomlinson was held under 100 yards for the fifth straight game; two turnovers led to two Denver TDs.
Notable: Before Saturday, Chargers backup QB Philip Rivers had been in for only one play this year, taking a knee to end a 48-10 win over Buffalo on Nov. 20.
Up next: Denver has a bye in the first round of the AFC playoffs.

TJ21
01-01-2006, 09:26 AM
So thats 6 coaches definately gone, and 5 possibly gone? Way more then I anticipated. It'll be a dyanamic offseason to be sure.

bruisebrother
01-02-2006, 09:09 PM
You can all forget about trading Rivers. Now that Brees is injured, Rivers becomes our possible starter. No one has any idea how Brees will fare in his return, remember "Chad Pennington." Rivers will be fine, have faith.

bruisebrother
01-02-2006, 09:13 PM
You have way too much time on your hands partner...

LEVEL PLAYING FIELD COULD BE AMONG CASUALTIES IF SALARY CAP VANISHES IN '07Posted on Wed, Dec. 28, 2005

http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/13498337.htm

What would happen if football became baseball? If you took a match to the NFL salary cap and allowed teams to spend as much - or as little - as they wanted on their player payroll?
Would Jerry Jones become George Steinbrenner? Would Jeff Lurie morph into David Montgomery? Would small-market teams such as Jacksonville, New Orleans and Kansas City become little more than cannon fodder for the big-spending franchises? Would the league's "on any given Sunday" motto give way to "never in a million years"?
We might soon find out. After 12 years of warm and fuzzy labor peace, the league and the NFL Players Association are at an impasse in their negotiations on a new collective bargaining agreement. While the current CBA doesn't expire until after the 2007 season, the final year of the deal will be uncapped if the two sides can't get an extension done by the end of the 2006 calendar year.
Technically, that still gives them 12 months to work things out. But the union has indicated that if there isn't a deal in place by March, its inclination will be to walk away from the bargaining table and let the clock run out on the cap.
"I've been to 32 teams, and all the players understand where we are. They're saying, 'Bring on the uncapped year,' " NFLPA executive director Gene Upshaw told the Washington Post last month.
Upshaw long has warned that once the uncapped year kicks in, there is little chance of the union's agreeing to resurrect it.
"We'll never get the cap back once it goes away," he says.
Considering the level of prosperity that both the league and its players have achieved under the current capped system, it's difficult to believe either side is all that eager to find out what life might be like without a cap.
"Nobody wants to kill this golden goose," agent Leigh Steinberg says. "I don't like the salary-cap system. There's nothing I like about it except that it's a system that both sides have been able to agree upon. But that has meant that football's been able to concentrate its energies and efforts at the union and management level on developing new revenue sources and promoting the brand with the general public."
Says Chiefs president Carl Peterson: "We have such a good system that has worked well for both sides. Certainly it's not perfect. Both sides would like to tweak some things. But hopefully, cooler heads will prevail. There's so much on the table for both sides that it would be folly to throw that away."
Even with a cap, many teams feel the NFL already is becoming a league of haves and have-nots, with a handful of teams, including the Eagles, able to squeeze tens of millions of dollars more a year in unshared revenue from their stadiums than other teams. If the cap goes bye-bye, teams such as Peterson's Chiefs, who play in an older stadium in a smaller market, would be at a decided disadvantage against the league's high-revenue clubs.
"The whole premise of the National Football League has been sharing revenues so that small markets like the Green Bays and the Kansas Citys and the Jacksonvilles can be competitive with the New Yorks and the Chicagos and San Franciscos," Peterson says.
"I only need to look across our parking lot to our local baseball team [the Royals] to see what can happen [to a small-market team in an uncapped system]. They obviously have a tough situation, because their $45 million payroll is supposed to compete with the $200 million payrolls of the Yankees and the Red Sox. That's very, very hard to do."
While it's hard to fathom any NFL team ever becoming quite as destitute as the Royals or some of baseball's other small-market baseball clubs, there's little doubt that the elimination of the salary cap almost certainly would affect the league's equilibrium.
"You can't compete when one team has an open wallet and another team has both hands covering it up," says NFLPA president Troy Vincent, the former Eagle who now is a Buffalo safety. "It really can create disparity, not just at a club level, but at a player level as well."
Vincent pointed out that the current salary-cap system includes both maximum and minimum payroll levels. An uncapped system would include neither.
"With a cap, we can control the minimums," he says. "Wihout a cap, we can't control the minimums. Some [players] will be greatly rewarded. Many others will be surprised."
Says agent Brad Blank: "Everybody's brandishing their swords right now. The union says it will be a Shangri-La and the wages will go way up, which I tend to agree with. But then I've also heard certain owners say this will be good because they could spend as little as they want.
"Ultimately, without a cap, [the NFL] would resemble baseball, where some owners will spend whatever it takes to sign the players they want, and others won't. You'll have your haves and your have-nots. It will become a two-tiered system, just like baseball."
If 2007 becomes an uncapped year, the free-agency rules would change slightly. Players would need 6 years of accrued NFL service to become unrestricted free agents rather than the current 4.
"It's in both sides' interest to try to get this thing resolved before we get [to the uncapped year]," agent Jerrold Colton says. "Both sides stand to lose something significant. From the players' standpoint, a lot of them will say that [without a cap], there will be no limit on salaries. But with it taking 2 more years to qualify for free agency, it's going to thwart a lot of players' ability to get the big money.
"If there is no cap in '07, it's going to be uncharted territory.
I don't think either side really knows for sure what kind of world we'd be getting into."
Blank agrees.
"It won't be good for anybody," he says. "And I include the players in that. Even though salaries might go up, who wants to play for a team that never wins? And that will be the fate of a lot of players. Or will all the good players gravitate to one or two teams, like baseball? It'll be good for some of them, but not all of them."
One group that clearly would benefit from the absence of a salary cap in '07 would be the rookies. Without a cap, there also would be no rookie pool, which has managed to keep rookie contracts from spiraling out of control as they did in the pre-cap days, when it wasn't unusual to see first-round deals increase 30 to 35 percent from one year to the next.
"The rookie would be free to negotiate contracts without reference to the salary cap," Steinberg says. "They'd be able to command much larger compensation packages structured in different ways than currently occurs. More up-front money. Straight salaries. Fewer option clauses."
Steinberg sees two major benefits to an NFL without a salary cap. Theoretically, teams would be able to hold on to their own veteran players since they wouldn't have to worry about staying under the cap. But there's nothing to prevent another team from making that veteran a better offer.
Steinberg also says teams would be able to create the kind of roster depth that has been lacking in the league since the advent of the cap. They'd be able to keep more experienced veteran backups, rather than cheaper rookie and first-year labor because of cap considerations.
"Today, you've got Grade-A linemen backed up by Grade-C people," Steinberg says. "Teams could move back to an era where Joe Montana was backed up by Steve Young who was backed up by Steve Bono. The better clubs with better management would once again be able to hang on to more talent."
The possibility of an uncapped year in '07 is expected to affect what happens during the upcoming free-agency signing period. Some free agents-to-be who will have enough accrued service to qualify for free agency in '07, such as Colts wide receiver Reggie Wayne, might opt to sign 1-year deals in the hope of hitting the mother lode as a free agent again in uncapped '07.
Some teams also might get a little more reckless in their free-agent spending in '06 if they think there won't be a cap in '07.
"If you're a team and you think there is going to be an uncapped year in '07, you can really blow your load right now and make up for it in the uncapped year," Blank says. "That could blow up in your face, though, if there ends up being an agreement next year and '07 is capped."
Blank also isn't as convinced as Upshaw claims he is that the cap will never return if it goes away in 2007.
"It's not as unlikely as he makes it sound," he says. "I understand that he has to say that right now as part of his bargaining position. You have to make [the owners] think that if you let the genie out of the bottle, you can never get it back in.
"If he lets them think it's negotiable, then the owners might say, 'Well, let's try it for a year [without a cap] and see how it goes. We can always go back.' You don't want them to have that flexibility in their minds."
Vincent remains hopeful the owners and players can hammer out a new labor pact in the next few months and avoid an uncapped year in '07.
"I'm a player, and every player would love to make as much money as possible," he says. "But I look at the game and the profession and the popularity of our game and everything that revolves around it. We've learned valuable lessons from baseball, basketball and hockey about the roads we don't want to go down if we can avoid them."

Shamrock
01-02-2006, 09:24 PM
You have way too much time on your hands partner...
Please go find some other place to criticize people. Thanks in advance.

Boltology101
01-02-2006, 09:29 PM
Posted on Sun, Jan. 01, 2006
By Charean Williams Star-Telegram Staff Writer

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/columnists/charean_williams/13529032.htm
Monday is Black Monday in the NFL. It's the day NFL owners begin firing coaches.As many as 11 teams could be seeking a new coach:

1. Dom Capers, Texans -- Houston will buy out the final year of his contract and announce his firing early this week. The Texans are expected to have interest in Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, Redskins defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, Bills defensive coordinator Jerry Gray, Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis and perhaps Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt.Added: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2277168

While team consultant Dan Reeves wouldn't mind becoming the Texans' next coach, McNair will look closely at offensive coordinators like Denver's Gary Kubiak and San Diego's Cam Cameron, with Iowa's Kirk Ferentz likely on the radar of teams who have or will have openings, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports.

ftwbolt
01-02-2006, 09:36 PM
You have way too much time on your hands partner...

I will take that under advisement !:rolleyes:

ftwbolt
01-02-2006, 09:45 PM
I really hope he gets the job, because Saunders was terrible in S.D.
Posted on Mon, Jan. 02, 2006

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13531723.htm

Al Saunders put a final flourish on his head-coaching resume Sunday. The Chiefs’ offensive coordinator designed a game plan that resulted in four touchdowns and a season-high 537 yards in a 37-3 rout of Cincinnati at Arrowhead Stadium.
Now the waiting game begins as Saunders attempts to get a head-coaching job. He will talk to the Chiefs about replacing Dick Vermeil and probably will have one or more interviews in the coming weeks.
The Lions, who fired Steve Mariucci several weeks ago, could come calling. As many as eight other teams could be looking for new head coaches as soon as today.
Saunders wouldn’t answer questions about his future Sunday. But after the Chiefs finished a fourth straight season among the league leaders in scoring and yardage, his prospects of becoming a head coach have never been better.
“Without any question, he’ll get some interviews,” Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson said. “He deserves it.”
Vermeil campaigned one final time after Sunday’s game for Saunders to be his successor.
“A number of people who have been given opportunities are not nearly as qualified,” Vermeil said. “He’s paid his dues. He’s done a remarkable job here.”
Quarterback Trent Green joined Vermeil in stumping for Saunders.
“I’ve said all along that I have a great relationship with Al and I enjoy this offense,” Green said. “It’s an offense I’ve been in my entire career with different coordinators in different phases of my career.
“Al would make a great head coach. But that’s not my job. Carl is going to make a great decision either way. I have expressed to him there are a lot of guys who have been in this offense a long time, myself included, and I don’t know if we necessarily want a change in philosophy.
“I think we’re built really well for the type of offense we run. I’d like to see Al given the opportunity, but my job is as a player, and whoever they bring in, I’m going to support.”

Chargeroo
01-02-2006, 10:53 PM
Saunders waiting on his prospects I really hope he gets the job, because Saunders was terrible in S.D.

I'm not so certain I agree with that. First of all Saunders was a 39 year old when he got the job here. He has a lot more experience now. Second, he had a lot going against him when he was here. Steve Ortmeyer was screwing up our team pretty good from the front office. Joiner and Fouts retired. Remember that Saunders was trained by Coryell and he's had a top offense all the while he's been in KC. He may be much more ready to be a HC now than he was back in the late '80's.

HotCorner06
01-03-2006, 07:08 AM
I heard that Butch Davis is in KC to interview for the job....God I hope they hire Butch. We would have alot easier time with old Butch at KC's helm.

ftwbolt
01-03-2006, 05:47 PM
Saunders waiting on his prospects

I'm not so certain I agree with that. First of all Saunders was a 39 year old when he got the job here. He has a lot more experience now. Second, he had a lot going against him when he was here. Steve Ortmeyer was screwing up our team pretty good from the front office. Joiner and Fouts retired. Remember that Saunders was trained by Coryell and he's had a top offense all the while he's been in KC. He may be much more ready to be a HC now than he was back in the late '80's.

Fair enough: I reminded of recent conversation's of better coordinator or Head Coach. Guys like Turner,Martz,Capers,Phillips,Henning,Jauron,etc, make better OC or DC than HC's and I think Saunders to a degree has benefited from the some of the talent they have. I just see him more as a X's and O's guy and not a people's guy.

I think Herm Edwards is their 1st Choice



Jets notebook: Owner faces choice on Edwards
Tuesday, January 03, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/113627020067460.xml&coll=1&thispage=2

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- The Kansas City Chiefs haven't contacted the Jets to ask for permission to speak with coach Herman Edwards, but a phone call is expected in the coming days, according to someone close to the situation.

The question is whether owner Woody Johnson will grant the Chiefs permission or if he will give Edwards a contract extension and keep him. Johnson doesn't want an unhappy coach on his hands.

Yesterday, Edwards once again said he's the coach of the Jets and plans to return next season. He refused to elaborate on his future, saying he didn't want any of his comments taken out of context.

"I addressed it six weeks go," Edwards said yesterday during baggy day as the players cleaned out their lockers. "I'm not going to get into that conversation."

Edwards, though, is believed to be interested in talking to the Chiefs about succeeding the retired Dick Vermeil. Though he's happy as the Jets coach, he's said to be unhappy with his contract, which has two years remaining and pays him roughly $2 million per season, among the bottom third of NFL coaches.

Despite a 4-12 mark, Edwards, who said the season was draining, feels the team was the victim of injuries, not poor coaching, and he kept the team together and competitive during a tough time. He fears the Jets' rebuilding job is more than a one-year project, and he wants job security.

Edwards' IMG representative, Gary O'Hagen, is expected to talk with the Jets in the next few days about an extension. If he's rebuffed, Edwards may try to get out of his contract because there are six job openings (Packers, Vikings, Texans, Saints, Rams and Chiefs) and he feels he can land one of them.

The Raiders' job, which may interest Edwards, and the head job with the Lions also are expected to come open soon.

Edwards' future was a hot topic as players gathered their belongings. Most feel he'll return.

"My gut is telling me he's going to be here," DE Shaun Ellis said. "He gave us his word he's not going anywhere (six) weeks ago. But when a person is presented with an opportunity, you have to take a serious look at it and see if it's best for him and his family. He has two good situations."

ftwbolt
01-03-2006, 05:57 PM
By Adam Schefter
NFL Analyst

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9138006

(Jan. 2, 2006) -- The Houston Texans are now on the clock. And following them are the New Orleans Saints, Tennessee Titans, New York Jets and Green Bay Packers. The NFL Draft is a little less than four months away, but here is a sneak peek at how the first five picks could fall.
1) Houston Texans -- USC RB Reggie Bush -- Houston, get ready: It's Bush in '06.
2) New Orleans Saints -- USC QB Matt Leinart -- With Aaron Brooks on the way out, the Saints need a quarterback to step in.
3) Tennessee Titans -- Texas QB Vince Young -- There's no better successor to Steve McNair than the quarterback who has even more potential.
4) New York Jets -- Virginia OT D'Brickashaw Ferguson -- A terrific technician with feet quick enough to step right into the Jets lineup and help immediately.
5) Green Bay Packers -- Memphis RB DeAngelo Williams -- Ahman Green is hurt and a free agent, same with Najeh Davenport, and the Packers need help.

DAUNTE'S INFERNO

The chatter is only increasing that Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper will be looking for a new home next season, one far away from Minnesota.

One team official recently said that Mike Tice had a better chance of returning to Minnesota than Culpepper, and the quarterback himself has said it might be better for him to go someplace else.

Just as Culpepper could be looking for an out, the Vikings might be happy to give it to him. After last year's boat party, the team might be anxious for as much of a fresh start as possible.

Should it make the decision to explore dealing Culpepper, the most logical landing spot could be Miami. The Dolphins will be scouring the league for a quarterback, and none would fit much better in Miami than Culpepper, whose former Vikings offensive coordinator Scott Linehan is in the same role under Nick Saban.

A CHALLENGER FOR BOLLER

In the past two weeks, no quarterback in football played any better than Baltimore's Kyle Boller. Yet it was not enough, and will not be enough, to lock up the Ravens starting quarterback job for the 2006 season.

The Ravens intend to pursue a veteran quarterback -- Kerry Collins? Jeff Garcia? Kurt Warner? -- who could unseat Boller, if not challenge him and inspire him to play better on a more consistent basis.

The right quarterback will have the chance to win the Ravens starting quarterback job. But the Ravens would have no problem turning back to Boller, who has thrown six touchdowns and only one interception in the past two games.

The Ravens hope and think a light has gone off for Boller. But they want to take every step to ensure that this team does not repeat the type of season it had this year. Its focus will be on upgrading its offensive line, but the quarterback position will get plenty of attention.

THE BOLTS

Other teams have been waiting to see if San Diego would be willing to part with one of its quarterbacks. But they could be waiting a long time.

Even before San Diego quarterback Drew Brees separated his shoulder Saturday, the Chargers' overwhelming intentions were to bring back both quarterbacks next season, Brees and Philip Rivers.

The Chargers were of the mind that no team would be willing to give them what they wanted for Rivers, the former fourth overall pick of the 2004 Draft, and he had more value to San Diego than another team.

Brees' injury is likely to only reinforce the notion. So expect to see both Brees and Rivers back in San Diego's camp next summer, though it is uncertain whether Brees will be able to land the long-term contract he wants.

Brees could be franchised again, just as he was this past season, when he earned $8.1 million on his one-year deal. Next season, the number would rise to $9.7 million, which should give the Chargers incentive to work out a long-term deal with their quarterback, rather than pay him so much in a one-year contract.


NFL Draft order
1. Houston
2. New Orleans
3. Tennessee
4. New York Jets
5. Green Bay
6. Oakland#
7. San Francisco#
8. Buffalo
9. Detroit
10. Arizona
11. St.Louis
12. Cleveland
13. Baltimore
14. Philadelphia
15. Atlanta
16. Miami
17. Minnesota
18. Cowboys
19. San Diego
20. Kansas City
21. New England*
22. Washington*
23. Carolina*
24. Tampa Bay*
25. Chicago*
26. Cincinnati*
27. New York Giants*
28. Pittsburgh*
29. Jacksonville*
30. Seattle.*
31. Denver*
32. Indianapolis*
*subject to playoffs
#subject to coin flip

ftwbolt
01-03-2006, 06:21 PM
Posted on Tue, Jan. 03, 2006
By ADAM TEICHERThe Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/13536227.htm

Carl Peterson began the Chiefs’ search for a new head coach Monday by interviewing offensive coordinator Al Saunders for several hours at Arrowhead Stadium.
Saunders was not the only name on Peterson’s list of candidates. The Chiefs probably will request permission from the Jets to speak with head coach Herman Edwards.
Various local media reports said Peterson met with former Cleveland Browns coach Butch Davis on Monday in Kansas City, but Peterson was meeting with Saunders when the supposed interview with Davis was taking place.
Also, a source close to the situation said Oklahoma coach Bob Stoops, a possible candidate, was not in Peterson’s box at Sunday’s game against Cincinnati at Arrowhead Stadium, as was reported on a Kansas City radio station.
The Chiefs were trying to schedule an interview with Washington defensive coordinator Gregg Williams for next week and appear to have an interest in Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak.
Peterson and Edwards are longtime friends. Peterson in January 1999 was the first to see Edwards’ potential as a head coach. Peterson interviewed Edwards in Mobile, Ala., site of the Senior Bowl, for the Chiefs’ head-coaching job, then vacant after Marty Schottenheimer’s resignation.
In Peterson’s perfect world, his coaching search might begin and end with Edwards, but the situation is more complicated than that. Edwards has two seasons remaining on his Jets contract.
The Chiefs not only need permission from the Jets to speak with Edwards but also must compensate the Jets with draft picks and/or players if they were to hire Edwards.
“I don’t want to get into that because it’s a pretty sensitive issue,” Peterson said when asked whether he would relinquish picks for Edwards. “I’ve done it before.”
The Chiefs gave the Rams second- and third-round draft picks for Dick Vermeil upon hiring him five years ago.
The Chiefs are free to contact the Jets regarding Edwards now that the regular season is over, but the Jets are not obligated to grant that permission.
At a regularly scheduled, season-ending news conference in New York, Edwards wouldn’t address his interest in leaving the Jets for the Chiefs.
“I’m not going to get into that conversation,” he said. “It’s a moot point.
“I don’t want to keep talking about it. There’s no need to talk about it, really. I’m happy to be the coach here, and I’m going to be the coach here.”
Saunders was scheduled to interview for head-coaching vacancies today with the Vikings in Minnesota and Thursday with the Texans in Houston. The Detroit Lions have told the Chiefs they would formally request permission to speak with Saunders and could meet with him over the weekend or next week. The Vikings and Texans asked for and received that permission Monday.
Peterson’s interview with Saunders began in the early afternoon and continued long after the end of regular office hours.


Posted on Tue, Jan. 03, 2006
Cowboys assistants looking at top jobs
By CLARENCE E. HILL JR.Star-Telegram Staff Writer

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/13541488.htm

IRVING – The Cowboys have granted permission for defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer to interview for the head coaching job with St. Louis and assistant head coach/passing game coordinator Sean Payton to interview for the Green Bay job, according to sources.
There is no known date for the interviews.
Green Bay head coach Mike Sherman and St. Louis’ Mike Martz were fired Monday.
Zimmer has been with the Cowboys since 1994, including the past six years as defensive coordinator.
Payton has been with the Cowboys for three years.

ftwbolt
01-03-2006, 08:27 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/02/AR2006010201178_2.html?sub=new

None of yesterday's firings surprised many people in the league, even though Sherman and Martz had made their teams regular participants in the playoffs before this season and Haslett had endured the most trying of circumstances since the Saints were displaced from New Orleans in August by Hurricane Katrina.

The reshuffling probably isn't done, with other changes possibly in the works. The Oakland Raiders probably will fire Norv Turner. The Buffalo Bills could dismiss Mike Mularkey, although it appears that team president Tom Donahoe could be the first to go. Herman Edwards is under contract with the New York Jets but has been mentioned as a possible successor to Vermeil, and there has been talk about the Dallas Cowboys' Bill Parcells contemplating retirement.

Some executives around the league believe that Marty Schottenheimer could be in some trouble in San Diego and that there is a long-shot chance that Jeff Fisher won't be around for another season in Tennessee. There had been talk of Dennis Green's job being in jeopardy in Arizona, but it seemed to be an indication that he would stay when he began reworking his coaching staff yesterday.

Packers General Manager Ted Thompson said that Sherman was surprised to learn of his ouster in Green Bay. Thompson signed Sherman to a contract extension last summer, with Sherman coming off three straight division titles. But Thompson, as a first-year general manger, inherited Sherman as his coach, and Sherman was relieved of his coaching job a year after the Packers stripped him of the GM duties. He had a 57-39 regular season record in six seasons but was only 2-4 in the playoffs.

"I just think it was time for a new face in that position," Thompson said.

Martz, like Sherman, led his team to the playoffs four times in six seasons. But Martz coached only five games this season, taking a leave of absence to have treatment for a bacterial infection in his heart, and his clashes with the front office made it clear that he would not be retained. Martz has been cleared by doctors to return to coaching and he, Sherman, Haslett and Mariucci could be candidates for jobs elsewhere.

The Saints went 3-13 this season and will have the second overall draft choice. There had been reports recently that Haslett was weary of the club's vagabond status and might resign. General Manager Mickey Loomis said at a news conference that he and Haslett "mutually agreed" yesterday to part ways, but called the move a firing and said the club would pay Haslett for the one season remaining on his contract. The Saints haven't reached the playoffs since the 2000 season, Haslett's first as the coach.

"It's a difficult decision," Loomis said. "Jim's a good football coach. I think he performed very well under some adverse conditions, unprecedented conditions."

The Texans' league-worst 2-14 record made the dismissal of Capers inevitable, especially after owner Bob McNair hired former NFL coach Dan Reeves as a consultant. Reeves said at the time that he wasn't seeking to coach, but didn't rule out coaching in the NFL again, and suspicions around the league remain that Reeves could be on the Texans' sideline next season. The club decided to retain Charley Casserly as general manager, but McNair said in a written statement of the decision to fire Capers: "We had to make a change."


Thompson appears to be offensive minded
Eagles' Childress among possible candidates
By TOM SILVERSTEIN
tsilverstein@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Jan. 2, 2006

http://www.jsonline.com/packer/news/jan06/382289.asp

Green Bay - Rather than deviate from the blueprint that helped the Green Bay Packers put together a string of 13 consecutive winning seasons, general manager Ted Thompson appears focused on hiring an offensive coach from within the National Football League ranks to replace fired Mike Sherman.

One of the first people Thompson reached out to Monday was Philadelphia Eagles offensive coordinator Brad Childress, a former University of Wisconsin assistant with ties to the West Coast offense. Childress was on his way to Minnesota for an interview with the Vikings and was expected to talk with Thompson in the near future.

The Eagles gave permission to both the Vikings and Packers to interview Childress, who is still under contract.

Childress could be the first of many offensive assistant coaches Thompson interviews during the hiring process. Though Thompson said he would not limit himself to a single type of coaching prospect, sources said he is leaning toward an offensive assistant who possibly could replicate the success Mike Holmgren had in Green Bay and Seattle.

"I don't think this early we would limit ourselves to any one group," Thompson said. "There are good people coaching around the country and my job and my role is to find the guy that fits here, that is a good fit for our community, our franchise and our players."

Right now, Thompson is competing with six other clubs for available coaching candidates, and the total number of teams in the market could increase to 11 by the end of the week. Thompson said he planned to move right away to make requests and secure interviews in an attempt to get the process moving.

He did not express concern that the Packers would be left in the cold as a result of so much competition for the top candidates.

"I think this is a marvelous place to be in the National Football League," Thompson said. "You guys have been around to all the different places. There can't be a much more attractive place. I tell you, there's competition, and there'll be other teams trying to hire coaches, but I don't think the Green Bay Packers will have to take a backseat to anyone."

One candidate Thompson will interview for the job is Packers defensive coordinator Jim Bates, who last year went 3-4 as interim coach of the Miami Dolphins after Dave Wannstedt was fired. Bates led a turnaround on defense in Green Bay in which the Packers ranked seventh overall and first against the pass.

He is a favorite of many defensive players and some offensive players because of his enthusiastic approach. Thompson said he wanted to meet with Bates to discuss his future, either as a head coach or as the Packers' defensive coordinator.

"Jim Bates is a fine coach," Thompson said. "He did a fine job this year."

Some players supported Bates' candidacy as Sherman's replacement but said it was unclear whether he was the right man for the job. They said it would be Thompson's job to decide that.

"If that's the route Ted Thompson takes, I think there will be a lot of support," linebacker Nick Barnett said. "But I'm not really worried about a head coach right now. I'm still in shock that Coach Sherman is leaving."

Thompson will have to follow very strict NFL guidelines in picking a head coach. First and foremost, he must interview at least one minority candidate for the position in order to satisfy the "Rooney Rule."

If he goes after an assistant coach currently involved in the playoffs, his window of opportunity for interviews is very small. If a team has a bye this week, he can interview a candidate only before the start of the games this weekend. If a team is involved in a wild-card game, he can only interview the candidate next week.

The list of available offensive assistant coaches includes Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron, Baltimore offensive coordinator Jim Fassel, former St. Louis head coach Mike Martz, former Detroit coach Steve Mariucci and Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt.

Kubiak, who will interview with the Houston Texans this week, and Thompson both have strong Houston ties; Cameron was a head coach at Indiana University and has helped resurrect the career of quarterback Drew Brees; Fassel is a close friend of Holmgren's and has led a team to the Super Bowl; and Whisenhunt has played a part in the development of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger.

Though Mariucci has strong ties to the Packers and Brett Favre from his time as quarterbacks coach in Green Bay, there have been no indications he wants to get back into coaching or that the Packers have contacted him. Martz runs a system very different from the West Coast.

Thompson said he was not locked into hiring a coach whose system fit exactly with what Favre knows. He said if Favre comes back he'll be able to play whatever system the Packers run.

"He's a pretty bright guy," Thompson said.

Among the defensive coaches Thompson is sure to look at is New York Giants coordinator Tim Lewis, a former Packers first-round draft choice who could wind up interviewing with at least a half dozen teams.

Thompson said he had not ruled out hiring a college head coach and speculation has run rampant that he is interested in Iowa's Kirk Ferentz, a close friend of Sherman's. After Iowa's 31-24 loss to Florida in the Outback Bowl on Monday, Ferentz dodged questions about whether he had interest in the Packers' job.

Iowa athletic director Bob Bowlsby told the Cedar Rapids Gazette that nobody had contacted him in regard to Ferentz, a former offensive line coach and assistant head coach with the Baltimore Ravens.

Another possibility would be Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino, who spent two years coaching quarterbacks and two years as offensive coordinator with the Jacksonville Jaguars. Petrino is 29-8 in four seasons at Louisville and put together a team that averaged 45.2 points per game this season.

jachba
01-03-2006, 08:34 PM
Some executives around the league believe that Marty Schottenheimer could be in some trouble in San Diego

I wonder what is the basis for those execs in believing that Marty is on thin ice?

ftwbolt
01-03-2006, 09:05 PM
By Jay Posner and Kevin Acee
STAFF WRITERS
January 3, 2006

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060103/news_1s3chnotes.html

The Chargers might not have an opening at inside linebacker after all.

Veteran Randall Godfrey, who had been wavering for weeks on his preseason pledge to retire, yesterday came closer than ever to saying he wanted to return for an 11th NFL season.

"If my mom and dad are doing fine and I go home (to Georgia) and I see everything is going well and my nephew's doing fine, it's most likely that I'm going to come back and play again," Godfrey said yesterday after the Chargers gathered for one last team meeting and began individual discussions with coach Marty Schottenheimer.

Godfrey's thought process changed two months ago when his sister was killed, allegedly by her boyfriend. Deidre Miller was 29; her son, Jakari, is 4.

"Things do change," said Godfrey, who will be 33 in April. "It's going to be a tough decision."

Godfrey said he wasn't retiring because he believed his play had declined.

"It was more the wear and tear on my body," he said. "It was more that I see a lot of old players who had great years but some of them can't walk, some of them have had knee replacement, hip replacement. That kind of stuff played a factor."

But Godfrey said he feels good, and he had fun playing this season. He was the team's second-leading tackler.

"That's what's going to make my decision hard," he said, "because I know I can play another two or three years if I wanted to."

One thing he would not do, Godfrey said, is ask to be traded to a team closer to his home.

"That's what my oldest son wants," Godfrey said, smiling. "No, I've got business here. If I'm here, it's unfinished business and we've got to get this team turned around. I wouldn't play anywhere else."

LT's injury

The Chargers attempted to clarify the discrepancy in statements by Schottenheimer and LaDainian Tomlinson regarding the running back's injury during the latter portion of the season. Tomlinson said Saturday he had a cracked rib; Schottenheimer said it was a fracture of the rib cartilage (which connects the rib bone to the sternum).
A team spokesman said he was told by head athletic trainer James Collins that "the crack is in the cartilage, right next to the (rib) bone."

Collins – along with the rest of the Chargers medical staff – is not permitted to speak with the media about injuries.

Jammer at safety?

Many Chargers fans have speculated that cornerback Quentin Jammer would be better off playing safety, but Jammer said no one connected with the team has raised the subject. He said he would do it if asked "because I'm a team guy," but it would never be his first choice.
"I'm a cornerback," he said. "I don't want to play safety."

Jammer added that he believed he played well in his fourth NFL season. "I thought the last nine games of the season, I was probably one of the top five corners in the NFL," he said.

Time to heal

Linebacker Steve Foley came back from his midseason abdominal strain to start the final six games. He had a sack Dec. 24 at Kansas City, just his second since the season's second week, to bring his season total to 4½.
He said yesterday he was not close to full strength.

"I'm really looking forward to the offseason," Foley said. "I can get healed."


The other QB

A.J. Feeley appears willing to rework his contract if it will help keep him a Charger. He knows the team will not be keeping him at the $3.5 million he is scheduled to make this year.
"I'd love to stay here," he said. "If I'm backing up these guys and something happens and I get to play, I have a chance to be more successful here than somewhere else. The grass is not always greener on the other side."

Feeley referred to his comfort in the Chargers offense and the opportunity to work with players such as Tomlinson and Antonio Gates.

Nuts 'n' Bolts

Rookie defensive end Luis Castillo said he would undergo arthroscopic knee surgery later this month to repair a strained posterior cruciate ligament. The injury is not believed to be serious.
The Chargers will have the 19th pick in the first round of the April draft. Three other teams also finished 9-7 – Miami, Minnesota and Dallas – but those teams will pick ahead of San Diego because they played weaker schedules.

Shamrock
01-03-2006, 09:08 PM
By Jay Posner and Kevin Acee
STAFF WRITERS
January 3, 2006

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060103/news_1s3chnotes.html

The Chargers might not have an opening at inside linebacker after all.
They will soon ..... :59:

ftwbolt
01-04-2006, 04:36 PM
KC is reportedly discussing deal that would snare Edwards

BY KEN BERGER AND JON HEYMAN
STAFF WRITERS January 4, 2006

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sbjets044574718jan04,0,5762721.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

The Jets and Chiefs are discussing a deal that would allow coach Herman Edwards to walk away from the last two years of his contract and replace Dick Vermeil in Kansas City, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

As of last night, the Chiefs had not gone through official channels to request permission to interview Edwards, and Jets general manager Terry Bradway said, "Officially, I have not gotten a call from Kansas City and I'm not expecting one as of right now."

But the teams were in what one high-ranking team official described as "a staging process" to determine if the framework exists for a compensation deal that would allow Edwards to bolt.

The person with knowledge of the situation said indications are strong that owner Woody Johnson is not willing to extend Edwards' contract after a losing season for the second time in three years.

Edwards is believed to want more security, not to mention more money; at $2 million per season, he is in the bottom third among NFL head coaches.

When approached after his radio show at a Long Island hotel last night, Bradway said there had been no contact between the teams. He indicated that if a team called about Edwards, he would talk with his coach to gage his interest in leaving.

Asked if he would consider receiving draft picks in exchange for Edwards, Bradway said, "I can't answer that. I have nothing to say."

Edwards' working history with Chiefs president Carl Peterson looms large in the discussions, which could cost the Jets the coach who ruled one of the most stable, successful periods in their history.

Edwards won more playoff games than any other Jets coach and righted a disoriented organization that was in chaos after the departure of Bill Parcells as director of football operations after the 2000 season.

The NFL Network first reported that the talks involve "middle-round picks" for Edwards. Not even high-ranking team officials reached last night, including top assistant coaches, knew discussions were occurring.

In fact, defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson, who confirmed he will interview for the Saints head-coaching vacancy this weekend or next, said yesterday that he had no doubt Edwards would be back.

"He told us all that he's going to be here," Henderson said, referring to a well-publicized speech Edwards made to the team, with Johnson present, on the practice field in November. "I wouldn't doubt him. He's never told me a lie."

The Chiefs job is one of seven head coaching openings after the Raiders' firing of Norv Turner yesterday.

Long-held speculation that Edwards could wind up with the Chiefs was stoked last week, when Vermeil said Edwards should be NFL coach of the year, and again this week when Peterson admitted that he would like to interview Edwards if the Jets would grant permission.

If the teams cannot agree on a framework for a deal, the official request to interview Edwards might never be made. But everything seems to be aligned for another Jets coach to seek greener pastures, and leave a formidable rebuilding job in his wake.

RAWDOGG
01-04-2006, 05:01 PM
They will soon ..... :59:

Why is that?

SDynasty
01-04-2006, 06:05 PM
KC is reportedly discussing deal that would snare Edwards

BY KEN BERGER AND JON HEYMAN
STAFF WRITERS January 4, 2006

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/jets/ny-sbjets044574718jan04,0,5762721.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

The Jets and Chiefs are discussing a deal that would allow coach Herman Edwards to walk away from the last two years of his contract and replace Dick Vermeil in Kansas City, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.

As of last night, the Chiefs had not gone through official channels to request permission to interview Edwards, and Jets general manager Terry Bradway said, "Officially, I have not gotten a call from Kansas City and I'm not expecting one as of right now."

But the teams were in what one high-ranking team official described as "a staging process" to determine if the framework exists for a compensation deal that would allow Edwards to bolt.

The person with knowledge of the situation said indications are strong that owner Woody Johnson is not willing to extend Edwards' contract after a losing season for the second time in three years.

Edwards is believed to want more security, not to mention more money; at $2 million per season, he is in the bottom third among NFL head coaches.

When approached after his radio show at a Long Island hotel last night, Bradway said there had been no contact between the teams. He indicated that if a team called about Edwards, he would talk with his coach to gage his interest in leaving.

Asked if he would consider receiving draft picks in exchange for Edwards, Bradway said, "I can't answer that. I have nothing to say."

Edwards' working history with Chiefs president Carl Peterson looms large in the discussions, which could cost the Jets the coach who ruled one of the most stable, successful periods in their history.

Edwards won more playoff games than any other Jets coach and righted a disoriented organization that was in chaos after the departure of Bill Parcells as director of football operations after the 2000 season.

The NFL Network first reported that the talks involve "middle-round picks" for Edwards. Not even high-ranking team officials reached last night, including top assistant coaches, knew discussions were occurring.

In fact, defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson, who confirmed he will interview for the Saints head-coaching vacancy this weekend or next, said yesterday that he had no doubt Edwards would be back.

"He told us all that he's going to be here," Henderson said, referring to a well-publicized speech Edwards made to the team, with Johnson present, on the practice field in November. "I wouldn't doubt him. He's never told me a lie."

The Chiefs job is one of seven head coaching openings after the Raiders' firing of Norv Turner yesterday.

Long-held speculation that Edwards could wind up with the Chiefs was stoked last week, when Vermeil said Edwards should be NFL coach of the year, and again this week when Peterson admitted that he would like to interview Edwards if the Jets would grant permission.

If the teams cannot agree on a framework for a deal, the official request to interview Edwards might never be made. But everything seems to be aligned for another Jets coach to seek greener pastures, and leave a formidable rebuilding job in his wake.

if herm goes to KC and my favorite college coach pat hill goes to oakland we will never win the division again.

ftwbolt
01-04-2006, 06:29 PM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/jets/59834.htm

January 4, 2006 -- Jets general manager Terry Bradway yesterday revealed the team had not been contacted by any Kansas City Chiefs official regarding permission to speak to Herman Edwards about the Chiefs' vacant head coaching position.
Bradway, though, twice used the word "officially" when addressing the issue.

There's been widespread speculation the Chiefs, whose president, Carl Peterson, has close ties to Edwards from Edwards' previous employment in Kansas City, are preparing to make a serious run at the Jets' head coach.

If that's going to happen, the Chiefs first must ask the Jets for permission to speak to Edwards and they would have to work out a compensation package should the Chiefs strike a deal with him.

As of yesterday, according to Bradway, who was speaking on his radio show, "Officially, I haven't received a phone call from Kansas City. Carl will have some options and we'll see what happens. Officially, I have not gotten a call from Kansas City and I'm not expecting one as of right now."

To state the Jets are not expecting a call from Kansas City or, say, Oakland, which fired Norv Turner yesterday and has an owner, Al Davis, who's very fond of Edwards, is somewhat questionable considering this following intriguing fact:

According to a source in New Orleans, Jim Haslett, whom the Saints fired as their head coach Monday, has told people the Jets are among four teams that already have contacted him.

Bradway, for the second consecutive day, declined to return multiple phone calls by The Post to address any of these issues.

In Kansas City, Peterson stonewalled reporters who had any questions about his search for a new head coach.

Asked if he had or was going to ask for permission from the Jets to speak to Edwards, Peterson said, "I'm not going to comment on any of that today. I would just prefer to keep that confidential."

Peterson, asked if he would be willing to part with a first-round pick as compensation to land a head coach from another team, said, "I'm not going to speculate on that. Any time I have to part with a No. 1 draft choice it's painful."

The Chiefs gave up a second- and a third-round draft pick as compensation to the St. Louis Rams when they hired Dick Vermeil, who was Rams property at the time even though he wasn't coaching. Vermeil retired from coaching on Sunday, a move that has sparked all of the speculation about Edwards going to Kansas City.

The bottom line with this burning issue is this: Speculation will continue to swirl until the Jets put an end to it, if they ever come to their senses and decide to do so.

There's one person who can solidify the franchise and shut down all the speculation so everyone can get on with trying to improve the team from its miserable 4-12 season. That person is team owner Woody Johnson.

All Johnson needs to do is tell Bradway the team will not grant permission to any team to speak to Edwards for a vacant head-coaching position.

Bradway, asked what he would do if a team did call and ask for permission, said he would ask Edwards if he was interested.

In the meantime, it's believed Edwards' agent, Gary O'Hagan, will meet with Jets brass by the end of this week (if they didn't already meet yesterday) to discuss a contract extension. Edwards has two years remaining and wants security as he rebuilds the offense.

Jets defensive coordinator Donnie Henderson will interview with the Saints for their vacant head-coaching position. Henderson has been the Jets' defensive coordinator for the last two seasons.

OK let me get this straight; The chefs and Jets have both said that nothing has been discussed between the two clubs about Edwards, and yet Haslett has said the Jets have already contacted him about an interview.
Somebody is not telling the Trueth !

vendetta07
01-04-2006, 06:38 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/nflrumors.html

Browns may pursue Wilhelm (http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/roger_brown/index.ssf?/base/sports/1136367393200051.xml&coll=2)
January 4
Cleveland Plain Dealer columnist Roger Brown (scroll down) (registration required): "Don't be surprised if the Browns pursue San Diego linebacker Matt Wilhelm, a former Elyria Catholic High and Ohio State star. Wilhelm can become a restricted free agent this off-season. "

http://www.cleveland.com/sports/plaindealer/roger_brown/index.ssf?/base/sports/1136367393200051.xml&coll=2

SD Chargers Fan
01-04-2006, 06:41 PM
wilhelm does deserve a chance to start...he definatly has the potential..but i would hate to see him leave.

SDynasty
01-04-2006, 06:43 PM
thats ok carlos polk should be back from the injured list

daboltz
01-04-2006, 06:48 PM
wilhelm > Polk

ftwbolt
01-04-2006, 07:04 PM
Architect of Redskins' Defense Signs Three-Year Extension
By Jason La Canfora Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 4, 2006; Page E01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/03/AR2006010300765.html

The Washington Redskins signed Gregg Williams, their assistant head coach-defense, to a three-year contract extension yesterday, giving him a salary double that of some NFL head coaches. Williams, a hotly pursued head coaching candidate, took himself out of consideration for any opening this offseason. He has one year remaining on his existing three-year deal and now is signed through the 2009 season, but Coach Joe Gibbs said there is no language in the contract preventing him from departing.

"This contract is strictly a friendly deal between [owner Dan Snyder] and Gregg," Gibbs said, "and basically what it says is it's just an agreement to this contract, and Gregg on his own this year just said he's taking himself out of consideration for any of these jobs, and he's free [to leave] at any time. It doesn't say anything in the contract like that. It's strictly up to him in the future what he wants to do."

Williams, who was making in excess of $1 million a season, could earn upward of $8 million total with this extension, according to reports. Williams, 47, was a top candidate for head coaching jobs in Kansas City, St. Louis, Houston and Minnesota, with at least the Texans contacting Gibbs on Monday to ask permission to interview Williams next week. Williams had said that the openings in St. Louis, Kansas City and Houston "intrigued" him, but also repeatedly stated that he loves coaching here and has said no to opportunities in the past.

Snyder badly wanted to keep the defensive guru from leaving. Gibbs, who is in the second year of a five-year deal, hired Williams shortly after he took over as the team's coach and president in 2004. Williams has led the defense to top nine rankings each of his two seasons. He is considered to be Gibbs's natural successor as head coach should he remain, but Gibbs declined to discuss that matter during a brief session with the media yesterday. "It's not something I'm interested in talking about," Gibbs said.

Williams has been adamant about waiting for something akin to a perfect situation to depart Washington. He has strong personal and professional ties to Missouri, where he was born and raised, and Houston, where he began his college and pro coaching careers. Once the vacancies in Kansas City and Houston are filled this year, they are unlikely to be open again for some time, and next year's coaching market might not be as hot as this year's, with eight openings already.

Williams served as Buffalo's head coach from 2001 to 2003, leading the team to a 17-31 record. He longs to become a head coach again. He and Gibbs enjoy a strong personal and professional affinity, and they will lead the team in its first playoff game since the 1999-2000 season on Saturday, when the Redskins travel to Tampa Bay. Washington was 6-10 last season -- largely because of an ineffective offense -- and finished 10-6 this season, a record the franchise has not surpassed since Gibbs's last Super Bowl after the 1991 season. The Redskins closed the season with five straight wins to clinch a postseason berth.

Since his defense rose to the NFL elite from humble 2004 expectations, Williams has deflected much credit to Gibbs and maintained a low profile, speaking to the media only once a week during the season and rarely during the offseason. He was sensitive about the slower progress of Gibbs's offense and worked behind the scenes to foster unity among the two units and play down the difference in production, team sources said. Williams did not meet with the media yesterday, speaking only on the team's Web site.

"It's awful nice to see the respect both Dan and Joe Gibbs gave me in this new contract," Williams said. "We needed to get this thing out of the way right now so there's no distractions. We've got to be focused on Tampa Bay." Williams reiterated yesterday that he still wants to be a head coach, but that it won't happen next season. "I'm a Redskin, and that's what I agreed to do," he said.

He turned down two interviews for head coaching positions after the 2004 season and campaigned hard to keep his core of highly respected assistants from departing for other opportunities. Thus, after constant coaching overhauls during the first six seasons of Snyder's ownership, the front office is now dedicated to continuity on this staff, with Williams a focal point.

"We're excited, because I think this is the first step in us kind of keeping everybody together," Gibbs said. "That's our goal: keep everybody together, players and coaches."

Other assistants -- such as defensive coordinator Greg Blache and linebackers coach Dale Lindsey -- could be sought for higher positions elsewhere (Lindsey said he is unaware of any interest in him), and Snyder is expected to do whatever possible to keep them. There is no salary cap for coaches, and Snyder has set precedents in that regard several times since taking over the franchise in 1999, sometimes drawing the ire of other owners.

"I'm very happy for" Williams, Lindsey said. "For anyone to get that kind of deal -- I'm sure there's some money involved in it, too. I'm all for it."

The news of a new contract caught many players by surprise yesterday -- an off day for them -- with several saying recently that they would be shocked to have Williams back next season considering that he's so in demand around the league.

"Hopefully, all the other coaches will stay, too, and we can keep this thing going," defensive end Phillip Daniels said. "This is a surprise to me, too. I definitely thought he would give consideration to leaving, especially with all the jobs out there right now. So, yeah, I did think he'd probably leave us, and to walk through the door and hear this, it's a relief to me. It's good to hear that."

ftwbolt
01-04-2006, 07:23 PM
Miami assistant hits town to talk to Texans brass; Ferentz considered
By JOHN MCCLAIN
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3563835.html

Beginning with Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan today, the Texans have set up a revolving door for candidates who are interested in replacing the fired Dom Capers.

Scheduled to be interviewed after Linehan are Kansas City offensive coordinator Al Saunders (Thursday), Texans receivers coach Kippy Brown (Thursday), Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak (Friday), Buffalo defensive coordinator Jerry Gray (Saturday) and San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron (Sunday).

The Texans received permission from Philadelphia to interview offensive coordinator Brad Childress, but a date hasn't been set. The Texans also are expected to interview University of Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, possibly as early as next week.

Washington defensive coordinator Gregg Williams was high on the list, but the Texans eliminated him as a candidate Tuesday when he signed a three-year, $8 million extension to remain with the Redskins.

Other candidates, including college head coaches with NFL experience, could emerge.

Two high-ranking NFL officials close to Bob McNair said Tuesday that Kubiak and Ferentz rank highest on the owner's wish list — one that is heavily tilted toward coaches whose focus is offense.

"We want to hire the best coach we can get, and it doesn't matter if he has an offensive or defensive background," McNair said.

Of seven coaches the Texans have plans to interview, only Gray is a defensive coordinator.

Kubiak, Linehan, Saunders, Cameron and Childress are coordinators who have built some of the NFL's most prolific offenses. Although Brown isn't a coordinator, McNair respects his work with receivers enough to grant him an interview.

Ferentz, the hottest college coach in the country as far as attracting NFL interest, was the offensive line coach at Cleveland (1993-95) under Bill Belichick and at Baltimore (1996-98) under Ted Marchibroda.

Kubiak, the Houston native and former backup to John Elway, runs one of the NFL's most balanced offenses.

Kubiak is getting a lot of praise around the NFL for the terrific job he's done with quarterback Jake Plummer.

McNair is expected to give quarterback David Carr an $8 million bonus to extend his contract through the 2008 season, and the owner wants a coach with a good track record with quarterbacks.

"Well, David is critical to our team," McNair said. "Certainly, we'd like to give David better tools than we've given him so far, and we'd like to see him continue to develop. And we want to make sure he has the necessary resources to allow him to do that."

The Texans can't admit it, but they're expected to use the top pick in the draft on Southern Cal running back Reggie Bush if Bush leaves school — and that's another reason they're looking at more offensive-oriented coaches.

With the exception of Kubiak, the candidates whom the Texans have scheduled for interviews will come to Houston to meet with McNair, general manager Charley Casserly, consultant Dan Reeves and Cal McNair, the owner's son.

They have to fly to Denver to interview Kubiak. Teams with byes in the playoffs can grant permission for assistants to be interviewed only in their home cities. A second interview can't take place until the team loses.

First up is Linehan. In three years at Minnesota under Mike Tice, Linehan built one of the league's best offenses.

He left for Miami last season to work under new coach Nick Saban.

"It's an honor to be (a candidate)," Linehan said after arriving in Houston on Tuesday night. "I'm excited about being here. They'll be evaluating a lot of things. Obviously, I'm an offensive guy, and we'll talk about what might be implemented. We have a lot to look at on the other side of the ball and special teams, too."

crazyman33
01-04-2006, 07:23 PM
whats the deal with RFAs. They can look for a new team, but wed have to get compensation or something??

Podium
01-04-2006, 07:25 PM
we get compensation if they leave, and we have the right to match any offer (I believe)

KingGL
01-04-2006, 08:01 PM
thats ok carlos polk should be back from the injured list
Ya and Carlos Polk has proven so much :rolleyes:

ftwbolt
01-04-2006, 08:12 PM
players knew it was coming after dismal 4-12 season
Nancy Gay, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, January 4, 2006

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/04/SPGS7GH4171.DTL

Norv Turner knew weeks ago that he wouldn't coach the Raiders in 2006. With the team struggling to a 4-12 finish after losing its last six games, Turner mentally prepared himself for what happened at midday Tuesday.

Owner Al Davis met with his head coach for about one hour at the team's Alameda headquarters, discussed where it all went wrong, then they agreed their two-year relationship should end.

"When we hired Norv, we believed he fit the bill at that particular time,'' Davis said Tuesday in a conference call. "He's a very fine person. And it is not my intention to denigrate what he has done.

"But the big thing is, we didn't win. You have to win. And you have to win with a vision for the Super Bowl. And that's our passion here.''

Turner, 53, who was 9-23 overall and 1-11 in the AFC West in two seasons in Oakland, became the sixth NFL head coach to be fired in the past three days.

"I think we all knew where it was going. We had a good talk and Mr. Davis told me what he was thinking and where he was going with it,'' said Turner, who will receive the remaining $1.75 million of his original three-year contract -- the Raiders held the option on the final year -- unless he lands another NFL job.

That may happen. Turner's offensive prowess was never in question and he is expected to be considered for offensive coordinator positions in Minnesota, New Orleans and possibly Miami, where he has coached in the past.

"I want to coach,'' Turner said. "And whatever job I have, I'm going to do the best job I can. I wouldn't rule anything out. But I know I do want to coach.''

Turner said he spoke with players individually prior to the final team meeting Sunday. "I don't think this was a real mystery to anyone,'' he said.

Linebacker Danny Clark, a starter and a team captain, was one of those players.

"I think he did everything he could do to get us going,'' Clark said Tuesday, "but for whatever reason, it didn't happen. His goal was to make sure we won football games, and it didn't happen.''

Turner's 0-6 mark against the AFC West in 2005, a first since Davis' association with the Raiders began in 1963, all but ensured that the team would finish with three consecutive losing seasons.

That also is a first for Davis, 76, who became frustrated by the Raiders' lack of scoring and consistency, despite a roster boasting big-name, big-money players in quarterback Kerry Collins, wide receivers Randy Moss and Jerry Porter, and running back LaMont Jordan.

The Raiders -- hampered by an ineffective, injury-depleted offensive line -- averaged only 18 points per game in 2005. In their final five games, they combined for only 51 points and six touchdowns.

"It was so obvious ... we weren't scoring points,'' Davis said of why that all-star lineup failed. "And you have to score in the National Football League to win.''

Davis said he would not box the Raiders into hiring a certain type of coach. In recent years, his head coaches -- Tom Flores, Mike Shanahan, Art Shell, Mike White, Joe Bugel, Jon Gruden and Turner -- came from offensive backgrounds.

Davis said he wouldn't rule out anyone -- young, old, defensive coaches or even those currently at the collegiate level.

"There are (good) coaches in the college ranks who've been in the National Football League, and there's nothing that holds us back from doing what we think is right,'' Davis said. "We want to win.

"The Raider fans deserve it. The Raider players deserve it. My passion, my drive, is to see that we have that commitment, and that we get it done.''

With so many openings across the NFL -- the Packers, Rams, Saints and Texans fired their head coaches Monday; Vikings coach Mike Tice was sacked an hour after Minnesota's season-ending victory Sunday, and Chiefs coach Dick Vermeil confirmed his retirement Sunday -- the Raiders should be more aggressive in their latest coaching search than in recent years.

One of the first calls they might make is to Santa Clara, seeking permission to interview 49ers defensive assistant Mike Singletary. They also are expected to bring in Fresno State head coach Pat Hill, a former NFL assistant coach who once worked with Raiders senior assistant Michael Lombardi in Cleveland under Bill Belichick, and perhaps Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who is on the radar for openings in Minnesota and St. Louis.

Dolphins offensive coordinator Scott Linehan, who helped resurrect Ricky Williams' career, and Browns offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon, who interviewed with the Raiders in 2004 and already is drawing interest from the Lions and the Packers, also could be in the running.

Davis said that none of the current assistants -- most of whom remain under contract until Feb. 1 -- are candidates. For now, all will be retained until that time, according to a recent change in NFL rules.

Moss, who injured his groin in Week 6 and never really recovered, did not pretend to be a supporter of Turner. He bolted from the Coliseum locker room before Turner addressed the team following the season-ending loss to the Giants.

But Davis said he wouldn't seek a coach who would meet the enigmatic receiver's specific approval.

"He is what he is -- he's a great player,'' Davis said of Moss. "But I think we have to score. I think we have to run the ball better, let's be honest about it. We must run the ball better.

"I thought one of our (strengths) this year would be our offensive line. We have some bright young players there. But we never did get the toughness or what I would call the power running, that I thought we were going to get from our football team.''

Collins, who passed for 3,759 yards and 20 touchdowns for his most productive season since 2002 with the Giants, also was the target of boos for completing just 54 percent of his passes, losing four fumbles and throwing 12 interceptions.

He said last week he would like to return in 2006 and would be willing to consider restructuring his contract, which calls for him to be paid $8.5 million in salary and bonuses. Davis wouldn't rule that out Tuesday but said much of the decision will depend on the new coach.

"I think that (Collins) did reasonably well. He had no running game,'' Davis said. "Our pass protection slipped.''

Turner is the third head coach to leave the Raiders in the past five years. Jon Gruden compiled a 40-28 record from 1998-01 but left for Tampa Bay for four draft picks along with $8 million.

Bill Callahan (2002-'03) was fired one year after taking the Raiders to Super Bowl XXXVII. But the '03 team turned on him in the midst of its 4-12 finish, and Davis felt Callahan had lost control of the players.


In the running
Here are some candidates the Raiders may interview:

Pat Hill, Fresno State head coach: Six bowl appearances in nine seasons in Fresno. Worked with Raiders senior assistant Michael Lombardi in Cleveland as the Browns' tight end/offensive line coach (1992-95). Offensive assistant for Baltimore Ravens in 1996.

Mike Singletary, 49ers defensive assistant: May not be ready for the head-coaching ranks, but his passion and motivational skills impress Al Davis.

Ron Rivera, Chicago Bears defensive coordinator: Teams are scrambling for permission to interview him during the Bears' bye week. In contention for the Rams' and Vikings' openings.

Scott Linehan, Miami Dolphins offensive coordinator: Great motivator who got Ricky Williams focused on football again.

Not in the running

Here are some candidates the Raiders won't interview:

Rick Neuheisel, former University of Washington coach: Tied to too much scandal and not highly regarded as a leader.

Art Shell, former Raiders head coach: Currently working in the NFL front office; Davis respects him greatly but wants to move in a new direction.

Mike Martz, former St. Louis Rams head coach: Davis has concerns about Martz' health -- he underwent heart surgery during the '05 season and had his duties stripped. Davis also considers Martz a coordinator, not a head coach.

Jim Fassel, Baltimore Ravens offensive coordinator: Raiders view the former N.Y. Giants head coach as not forceful or dynamic enough for the job.

Rob Ryan, Jimmy Raye, etc: Davis ruled out any current Raiders assistants for the head-coaching position.

195th Boltz
01-04-2006, 09:45 PM
Carlos Polk is not as good as the LB's we have now. Even Marques Harris is better.

guimcharger
01-04-2006, 10:04 PM
Carlos Polk is not as good as the LB's we have now. Even Marques Harris is better.

Have you seen Polk play? I saw this but I doubt Wilhelm wants to leave. He has a better chance of winning a championship here then their plus he will play a lot next season even with Godfrey returning.

Thunderstruck
01-04-2006, 10:05 PM
I sure hope we keep Wilhelm. We need someone to replace Donnie.

LA Boltman
01-04-2006, 10:07 PM
I sure hope we keep Wilhelm. We need someone to replace Donnie.

I agree. I've always liked Wilhelm, but he really impressed me this year. He is also, better than Polk.

drangus
01-04-2006, 10:08 PM
we get compensation if they leave, and we have the right to match any offer (I believe)

It all depends on the size of the tender that the chargers offer wilhelm--the compensation would more than likely be a 4rth rounder since I don't see the chargers tendering higher than that--if we can get a 4rth for wilhelm it will be good unless the chargers see him replacing edwards in the near future--if that is the case then he will most likely be offered a 3 year deal here signaling the end of edwards's career--I think we would be better off keeping edwards and taking a 4rth for wilhelm this year as opposed to nothing next year

Thunderstruck
01-04-2006, 10:10 PM
Have you seen Polk play? I saw this but I doubt Wilhelm wants to leave. He has a better chance of winning a championship here then their plus he will play a lot next season even with Godfrey returning.

Polk is the Courtney van Buren of the defense. And even when he was healthy, he was our defense's version of Kazim Osgood. He's not starter material...or even second-string material on the defense.

drangus
01-04-2006, 10:10 PM
I agree. I've always liked Wilhelm, but he really impressed me this year. He is also, better than Polk.

wilhelm stepped up this year

I personally don't think that he is as physical as some of our other linebackers

SillyBoltsFan
01-04-2006, 11:04 PM
wilhelm stepped up this year

I personally don't think that he is as physical as some of our other linebackers
Yes, he did step up. He isn't as physical as some, but he is more physical than certain others ;)

vendetta07
01-05-2006, 12:15 AM
wilhelm stepped up this year

I personally don't think that he is as physical as some of our other linebackers

Well he did get quite a few facemask penalties in the green bay game this pre season,

SuperMatt
01-05-2006, 08:24 AM
I think Wilhelm is developing nicely and could be an asset to this team, especially if Godfrey hangs 'em up. I also feel like he spells Donnie pretty well. I think it would be a shame to lose him.

ftwbolt
01-05-2006, 07:50 PM
Haslett, Singletary and Kubiak are scheduled to interview and more candidates are identified.
Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060105/SPORTS0101/601050320/1004/SPORTS

The NFL's coaching carousel is spinning rapidly, and the Lions have jumped aboard.

The Lions are one of eight teams in the market to hire a new head coach, and they will be in direct competition with teams considering the same candidates.

The Lions reportedly have confirmed interviews with at least three candidates -- assistant coaches Gary Kubiak of Denver and Mike Singletary of San Francisco and Jim Haslett, recently fired after six seasons as coach of the Saints.

Others are sure to follow, even if they are with out-of-work coaches hoping to throw their name into the job market. Among the assistant coaches likely to be on the short list of Lions president Matt Millen are Russ Grimm, assistant head coach of the Steelers and a teammate on the 1991 Washington team that won the Super Bowl, and Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis. Millen has not eliminated interim head coach Dick Jauron as a candidate.

It is difficult at this time to separate fact from fantasy as coaches and their agents seek to have their names attached to openings.

Haslett confirmed in New Orleans on Wednesday that he has an interview set up with the Lions, and there were reports that Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz is a candidate.

"I'm looking forward to hearing what they have to say," Haslett told the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

One potential high-profile candidate is Mike Martz, who was fired on Monday after six seasons as head coach of the Rams. Martz reportedly has told people in St. Louis that he is intrigued by the potential of the Lions' young offensive players.

However, that does not mean that the Lions will have an interest in Martz, who is highly regarded for his ability to develop quarterbacks and build offenses, both as an assistant and head coach.

At the opposite end of the spectrum is Singletary. He has only three years of experience -- two as Baltimore's linebackers coach and the 2005 season as assistant head coach and linebackers coach in San Francisco. Singletary, a member of the Pro Football Hall of Fame, played linebacker for 12 seasons with the Bears.

Singletary's interview with the Lions will be his first for a head coaching position in the NFL.

"I feel very excited," Singletary said in a phone interview Wednesday. "I'm looking forward to what they have to say. The most important thing is, is it right? Is it right for them and is it right for me? If that's the case, going forward, I'm tremendously excited."

Singletary has gotten support from 49ers coach Mike Nolan, who was Baltimore's defensive coordinator for the two seasons Singletary was with the Ravens. Nolan hired Singletary as assistant head coach when he took the San Francisco job in 2005.

Singletary is aware that the experience issue might work against him in the eyes of some teams.

"I don't think a head coach is something you become," Singletary said. "I think it's something you are. At some point in time, it's discovered by somebody else. One of my strengths is leadership."

Denver Broncos officials have confirmed that Kubiak has been contacted by the Lions and Houston Texans. The Texans reportedly will talk to Kubiak Friday. Kubiak is a Houston native.

In an interview on Tuesday, Millen would not speak specifically about any candidates.

Lions candidates

One of the following could be the Lions' next head coach:
Former NFL head coaches

Mike Martz, St. Louis Rams:Health issues forced him off the sideline after five games. A master builder on offense, he developed quarterbacks Kurt Warner, Trent Green and Marc Bulger. Detractors say he needs a strong defensive coordinator and doesn't pay enough attention to special teams. Supposedly, Martz is intrigued by the high draft picks on the Lions' roster.

Jim Haslett, New Orleans Saints:From the mold of Pittsburgh coach Bill Cowher, where Haslett was defensive coordinator before taking the Saints job in 2000. Haslett had a five-year record of 43-39 before going 3-13 in '05. Haslett is tough and preaches discipline but isn't considered an innovator.

Al Saunders, Kansas City Chiefs:He was 17-22 in two-plus seasons as head coach in San Diego (1986-88). Saunders is highly regarded as an offensive coordinator, most recently in K.C., where the Chiefs were 10-6 in '05 and ranked first in offense with 387 yards per game. The Lions were 17th with 269.9.

Jim Fassel, offensive assistant, Baltimore Ravens:He was hired to improve QB Kyle Boller and appears to have had an impact. Fassel got to the Super Bowl in 2000 with the Giants and is well regarded for his offensive acumen, but many question his ability to lead a full team.

Wade Phillips, defensive coordinator, San Diego Chargers:Slight success in two other stints as head coach -- 29-21 for three years in Buffalo, 16-17 in two years at Denver.

Dick Jauron, interim coach, Lions:Respected by the players for his direct approach in the last five games. If Millen didn't think he was better than Mariucci, he wouldn't have fired Mariucci. Not the frontrunner in Detroit, but he shouldn't be dismissed entirely.

Bill Parcells, Dallas Cowboys:His name became linked to Detroit soon after Steve Mariucci was fired on Nov. 28. Parcells has a year left on his contract in Dallas and probably is trying to gain leverage to work out an extension with a hefty raise.

Jimmy Johnson, Fox network:He won two Super Bowls in Dallas but went 38-31 in four seasons in Miami and alienated QB Dan Marino. Johnson says he doesn't want to coach or be a general manager.

Art Shell, NFL vice president:Shell was 56-41 in six seasons with the Raiders. He replaced Mike Shanahan after four games in 1989 and restored the Raiders' winning ways. Shell has been working in the league office and has been mentioned recently as a candidate to get back into coaching.
College head coaches

Kirk Ferentz, Iowa:Has built a perennial bowl team at Iowa, going 49-36 in seven seasons. He was an NFL assistant in Baltimore and Cleveland, where he worked under Bill Belichick and with Nick Saban. Ferentz was born in Royal Oak.

NFL assistants

Russ Grimm, assistant head coach, offensive line, Pittsburgh Steelers:Played one season (1991) with Millen at Washington. Grimm's intensity and attention to detail have stood out in 11 seasons as a guard with the Redskins and 14 seasons as a pro assistant. He is likely a top candidate in Detroit.

Gary Kubiak, offensive coordinator, Denver Broncos:John Elway's backup for nine seasons in Denver and an assistant in Denver since 1995. Quiet and effective as a coordinator, and players know that head coach Mike Shanahan won't tolerate any short cuts. Reportedly scheduled for an interview with the Lions on Saturday.

Mike Singletary, assistant head coach, San Francisco 49ers:Intense, competitive and detail conscious. A Hall of Fame linebacker with the Chicago Bears. Confident he can make the jump to head coaching with limited coaching experience. The one knock is that he has been an assistant for only three years. He has a meeting scheduled with the Lions.

Maurice Carthon, offensive coordinator, Cleveland Browns:A disciplinarian from the Bill Parcells program. Carthon spent two seasons in Detroit as an assistant and was offensive coordinator in 2002 before going to Dallas with Parcells. Known to coaches and players as being demanding, and won't tolerate less than 100 percent effort and preparation.

Jim Schwartz, Tennessee Titans:He strikes people with his scholarly approach to football. Organized and extremely bright. Eleven seasons in the NFL, the last seven with the Titans.

Tim Lewis, defensive coordinator, New York Giants:Lewis has gone through the ranks -- star college defensive back, NFL defensive back, college and pro assistant. He is considered to be an independent thinker, which isn't easy on Giants coach Tom Coughlin's staff. Lewis will be a pro coach some day and could receive strong consideration in Detroit.

Ron Rivera, defensive coordinator Chicago Bears:A linebacker on the Bears' 1985 championship team, Rivera has been a pro assistant with the Bears and Eagles since 1997. He rejoined the Bears in 2004 as defensive coordinator under Lovie Smith and has helped put together the league's best defense.

ftwbolt
01-05-2006, 08:28 PM
Thursday, January 5, 2006

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/01/05/SPGNAGHCUH1.DTL

Maybe the rash of NFL head-coaching changes -- eight, including Steve Mariucci's midseason dismissal -- left Raiders owner Al Davis invigorated by the challenge.

He had just shipped off his third coach in five seasons, finishing off a one-hour sit-down with Norv Turner midday Tuesday by mercifully declining the third-year option on the Martinez native's contract.

The Raiders' elusive owner then got on the telephone with a bunch of outsiders trying to pick his brain and rattled on for nearly 32 minutes about the state of his franchise.

With so many openings, so many candidates and so many possibilities, Davis, 76, sounded almost excited about what lies ahead.

"The whole idea to me is to win,'' Davis proclaimed. "I am going to try to get whoever I think can help us win at this particular time.''

On Wednesday, the Raiders began the process by sifting through the large list of candidates. Raiders senior assistant Michael Lombardi will screen candidates and play a major role in the hiring process, Davis said.

Plans were under way for Lombardi to possibly make a quick hop to Chicago for a chat with Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who is permitted under NFL rules to interview for head-coaching openings during the playoff bye week but only in his team's hometown.

Rivera, a linebacker at Cal (1980-83), has interviews planned for the Packers' opening, the Chicago Sun-Times reported, as well as for the Rams' vacancy.

The Raiders have yet to schedule any formal interviews, NFL sources said.

Sure, there will be roadblocks. Call it the Six Degrees of Al Davis. Somewhere, in some NFL front office, there is a coach or employee who once worked for Davis. Chances are, that person left on bad terms or has an ax to grind.

So you can count on Raiders coaching candidates getting a phone call from said disgruntled former employee, asking, in essence, "Are you nuts?"

The Raiders understand this. They also know the perception is that the team would rather pay $10.5 million to franchise an oft-injured cornerback, Charles Woodson, than to compensate a top coach.

That's somewhat true: In the world of big-money coaching (Mike Shanahan's $6 million a year deal; Mike Holmgren's $4.5 million; Joe Gibbs' five-year $25 million contract), the Raiders have been pretty darn thrifty. Former coach Bill Callahan made less than $1 million when he was canned after the 2003 season.

Turner's option year is worth $1.75 million, decent money that remains his provided he doesn't land another NFL job in the next year.

But Davis on Tuesday sounded like a man who's finally willing to do what it takes to get the right guy.

Now that it's up to the Raiders to market themselves -- no more ineffective Oakland Football Marketing Association to muck up things -- they need a strong, dynamic hire who will sell tickets as well as win games.

"This organization is not going to turn back. This organization is going to be out there and we are going to get it done,'' Davis said. "It is a tough business. Thirty-two teams. We put a (salary) cap in. We put a lot of things in.

"The Raiders have the negativity of having a poor revenue stadium but we are going to find a way.''

Other candidates of interest to the Raiders are embarking on interviews. Mike Singletary, the 49ers' defensive assistant, is being sought by Lions GM Matt Millen; Dolphins offensive coordinator Scott Linehan reportedly met with Texans owner Bob McNair on Tuesday and Wednesday, one of many interviews scheduled in Houston in the coming days.


Fassel drawing interest
Chiefs first to talk to offensive coordinator about top job
By Jamison Hensley Sun reporter January 5, 2006

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.ravensnotes05jan05,1,6031939.story?coll=bal-sports-football

A day after the most drastic coaching upheaval under Brian Billick, the Ravens have the sense they might lose another staff member.

Offensive coordinator Jim Fassel had the first of what should be many head coaching interviews this offseason, speaking with the Kansas City Chiefs on Tuesday. (Kansas City and the New York Jets discussed a compensation package for Herman Edwards yesterday, the Associated Press reported.)

Fassel, who has spent just one season as coordinator for the Ravens, has been linked to the Minnesota Vikings, Oakland Raiders, New Orleans Saints and Green Bay Packers. But he doesn't have any confirmed visits with any of them yet.

"Selfishly, I hope that Jim is still here [next season]," Billick said. "[The offense] will be even better in the second year because of the familiarity."

If Fassel leaves, Billick has indicated that quarterbacks coach Rick Neuheisel would be promoted to coordinator.

Meanwhile, it is expected Dennis Thurman, who coached the defensive backs last season with recently fired Johnnie Lynn, will be named head secondary coach.

Special teams coach Gary Zauner, one of five coaches let go Tuesday, reportedly has joined the Arizona Cardinals in the same role, and former running backs coach Matt Simon could be hired by an AFC North rival.


Settle the quarterback situation.

http://www.nashvillecitypaper.com/index.cfm?section=7&screen=news&news_id=46957

Q: Will Steve McNair be back? A: If the price is right. If he and the Titans can agree to a workable deal to make his $50 million roster bonus go away, then he likely will be under center in 2006. The major question there becomes, how long will the Titans wander in the wilderness, and what kind of player will McNair be when they’re ready to return to the promised land? If the Titans are two or three seasons away, perhaps they would be better off going again and grooming the next guy (acquired with a first or second-round pick), rather than continuing long-term with McNair, who might be 36 by the time the good times roll again in Tennessee. Either way, the quarterback in limbo is Billy Volek, who many feel could be elsewhere by the time 2006 kicks off.

ftwbolt
01-05-2006, 08:36 PM
By Jay Posner and Kevin Acee STAFF WRITERS
January 5, 2006

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060105/news_1s5chnotes.html

It's a good thing for Marty Schottenheimer that former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason isn't handling his job review for the 2005 season.

"I think Marty Schottenheimer should have been fired," Esiason, now a studio analyst for CBS Sports, said yesterday on a national conference call. "I think that team was too good not to make it to the playoffs."

Esiason, who volunteered his opinion without being asked specifically about Schottenheimer, pointed to the club losing several home games and falling at Philadelphia on a blocked field goal attempt.

He also noted the presence of quarterback Drew Brees, along with "what many people think is the best player in football with LaDainian Tomlinson and . . . the great tight end (Antonio Gates) and a defense that is No. 1 against the rush and can get after the quarterback and yet they're not in the playoffs.

"Who should be held accountable there? I love Marty, but you know what, bottom line is that team underperformed this year. . . . I think somebody needs to be held accountable."

Another CBS analyst, Phil Simms, saw the Chargers play in person three times in 2005, including the season-ending loss to Denver. He cited the team's inability to play well at the end of games.

"The NFL is about winning games late," Simms said. "They had opportunities many, many times (and) they did win a few of them – the Jets come to mind. But they just didn't make the plays at the right time that they did the year before."

Brees surgery today

Brees found out yesterday that the initial diagnosis of a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder was accurate, and he will have surgery today.
The procedure will be performed by renowned orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala.

Andrews yesterday concurred that Brees had not suffered rotator cuff damage when he was hit trying to recover a fumble during Saturday's season finale.

Simms on Brees

Simms said he couldn't understand why anyone would question the identity of the Chargers' starting quarterback in 2006 – Brees.
"Why wouldn't he be the starter?" Simms said. "I'm reading all these things, should Philip Rivers or Drew Brees be the quarterback for the San Diego Chargers and I'm really floored by some of it. I'm just going, 'What are they thinking of?'

"You have a franchise quarterback that's (had) back-to-back years that have been terrific. He's learned to throw the ball better, he's a pretty good athlete – he's one of these guys that's a much better athlete than people give him credit for. I don't get it. But you know, I don't get it a lot of times.

"Nobody knows anything about Philip Rivers, and he's sitting there. I hate to say it's the old cliché (that) they always want the backup quarterback, (but) that seems to be the environment out in San Diego."

Simms, by the way, had a torn labrum at the end of his career and said "it recovered very fast" after surgery, although he never played again because the Giants released him.

"I do not think it's a big long-term worry (for Brees)," he said. "I think he'll overcome it, and I think he'll be 100 percent by the time they go to training camp next year."


Nuts 'n' Bolts

Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips will interview Monday in Green Bay for the Packers head coaching job. . . . Linebacker Donnie Edwards will have his torn meniscus surgically repaired tomorrow. Edwards played the final nine games with the injury and still finished fourth in the NFL with 152 tackles.

ftwbolt
01-06-2006, 07:22 PM
The agent for Steve McNair said the quarterback would be 'amenable' to playing in Miami. However, Brett Favre in aqua would be highly unlikely.

BY JASON COLE jcole@MiamiHerald.com

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13560069.htm

If agent Bus Cook knows his clients as well as he thinks, Dolphins fans can cross Brett Favre off their wish list.
But Steve McNair might be another matter.
Cook might be a power broker this offseason, with Favre, McNair and highly rated Vanderbilt senior Jay Cutler as clients. Cook also might represent Texas junior quarterback Vince Young whenever Young comes out for the draft because of Young's close association with McNair. Talk of Young going pro strengthened after his MVP showing in Wednesday night's national championship win against USC.
As for McNair, Cook said Thursday he thought McNair would be ''amenable'' to playing for the Dolphins if the Tennessee Titans cut or trade McNair.
As for Favre, however, Cook thinks his client is either a Green Bay Packer or is packing it in.
''If [Favre] doesn't play in Green Bay, he'll retire,'' Cook said. ``I think he's a Packer for life, and that's just the way it's going to be.''
Cook said that wouldn't necessarily be the case for McNair, who has played his entire career for the Titans organization, beginning in Houston.
''Right now, Steve is a Titan, and he wants to be a Titan, but you don't know what they're going to do,'' Cook said Thursday. ``But if he's not with them, I'm sure he'd be amenable to playing for Miami. They've done a good job down there to turn the team around, and he's still a playmaker.''
Although the Titans have publicly said they would like to keep McNair, salary cap constraints could force their hand. McNair, 32, would then be among the most prominent quarterbacks available, and Dolphins coach Nick Saban has said quarterback is a position he would like to upgrade.
The issue for the Titans is how they want to deal with McNair's monstrous salary cap figures. Right now, he is scheduled to cost the Titans $28.9 million against the projected cap of $92 million. However, that figure is bloated by a $12.5 million portion of a $50 million option bonus the Titans must decide on by March 3.
That decision is obvious.
''That's just funny money,'' Cook said of the option bonus (McNair gets $1 million added to his salary if the team does not pick up the bonus).
More realistically, McNair will cost the Titans $16.4 million against the cap. That includes a $9 million base, the $1 million addition and $6.4 million in prorated money that has been paid over the contract.
The Titans can try to restructure the deal, but they have restructured McNair's contract numerous times in the past. McNair also has all the leverage in the deal on a restructure. Adding to the intrigue: the Titans were 4-12 this season and 5-11 in 2004.
People close to McNair, who has contemplated retirement in recent years because of numerous injuries, say McNair would like to play for a competitive team again.

LINEHAN UPDATE

Dolphins offensive coordinator Scott Linehan is scheduled to interview with the St. Louis Rams today for their head-coaching vacancy.
Linehan, 42, is scheduled to meet with Rams president John Shaw after Shaw interviews Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera. The Rams interviewed Dallas defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer on Thursday, according to The Post-Dispatch.
Linehan interviewed with the Houston Texans on Wednesday for their head-coaching vacancy.

ftwbolt
01-06-2006, 07:40 PM
Friday, January 06, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON Star-Ledger Staff

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1136529643210890.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

The Chiefs and Jets engaged in some acrimonious talks over compensation for coach Herman Edwards yesterday in Day 2 of negotiations that ultimately could land Edwards in Kansas City.

For a few hours, the teams reached an impasse and negotiations broke off. But they resumed talking last night and it seems just a matter of time before Edwards becomes the new head coach of the Chiefs.

According to a Jets assistant coach, Edwards met with his staff yesterday and gave what amounted to a goodbye speech, saying, "At the end of the day, I don't know how this is going to turn out."

Later, according to a person familiar with the situation, Edwards cleared out his office at Weeb Ewbank Hall.

Talks between Jets general manager Terry Bradway and Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson hit a roadblock when Peterson balked at a deal that would send a fourth- and fifth-round pick to the Jets in exchange for the rights to Edwards, who has two years remaining on his Jets contract, ESPN.com reported.

Also, the deal is believed to have stalled over whether the picks would come in the same year or split over two seasons. The Jets would prefer to have the picks in the same season.

Peterson, understanding Edwards is at the point of no return as coach of the Jets, was likely thinking he could get his man for nothing. The Jets even canceled their season-ending news conference scheduled for yesterday morning with Edwards and Bradway.

Edwards and Bradway didn't return phone calls last night.

ESPN.com reported that the Jets imposed a 6 p.m. deadline yesterday to end talks and were going to announce Edwards requested out of his contract, making him a free agent. Edwards' agent, Gary O'Hagen, told ESPN.com that the coach has never asked to be let out of his contract.

If the stalemate continues, it's believed the league will step in, but the NFL's vice president of public relations, Greg Aiello, said that's not the case. He said the league has arbitrated coach-for-draft-pick disputes before. However, those deals involved the interpretation of a contract and one side being compensated for a coach breaking that contract.

But the Jets-Chiefs scenario is the same as a trade, Aiello insisted.

"Teams can't agree on trades all the time," he said.

Nonetheless, it wouldn't be a surprise if commissioner Paul Tagliabue worked behind the scenes to get a deal done that would satisfy both sides. The NFL must approve any deal before it can be official.

As of now, the Jets have made no effort to extend Edwards contract, which pays him roughly $2 million per season. Edwards, who is paid among the bottom third of NFL coaches, wants an extension despite a 4-12 mark this past season.

Jets owner Woody Johnson is believed to have tightened his money belt after reportedly losing close to $70 million in the failed West Side Stadium project and having signed quarterback Chad Pennington to a $67 million contract that has paid the injury-riddled quarterback $22 million the past two seasons. He has played in just 16 games.

Edwards could get a deal in Kansas City paying him as much as $20 million over five years.

Former Saints coach Jim Haslett, former Packers coach Mike Sherman, Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel and Jets coordinators Donnie Henderson and Mike Heimerdinger are among the early candidates to replace Edwards. Henderson is scheduled to interview with the Saints this weekend, if not sooner, and Haslett interviewed with the Lions yesterday.

According to several people close to Fassel, the former Giants coach is very interested in the Jets job and hopes his time with the Giants doesn't hurt his chances. Fassel has interviewed for the Chiefs job.

Note: Should Texas QB Vince Young decide to enter the NFL Draft following his spectacular Rose Bowl performance, it would increase the Jets' chances of getting Virginia offensive tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson at No. 4. In that scenario, USC stars Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart and Young could go 1-2-3, leaving Ferguson, whom the Jets covet if they stay in the four slot and don't trade down.

ftwbolt
01-06-2006, 07:58 PM
By Jim Thomas ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
01/05/2006

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/423BFDA57ABF985F862570EE0022730D?OpenDocument

As the Rams begin the process of replacing Mike Martz, they will have plenty of questions for each head-coaching candidate. But in turn, the candidates may have a few questions of their own for team president John Shaw:

• Why was there discord between Martz and the front office?

• Why don't the Rams have a pro personnel director?

• What is Shaw's vision of a restructured front office at Rams Park, and how will it function in the future?

Stay tuned. At his news conference Monday to announce Martz's termination, Shaw provided few details.

"I'm not prepared to discuss any other future changes of the organization. . . . Our immediate goal will be to find a head coach," Shaw said.

Shaw played down the possibility that some head-coaching candidates would shy away from the Rams because of the public nature of Martz's troubles with the front office.

"We have tenured executives on our staff," Shaw said. "Between Jay (Zygmunt) and myself, we've been in the league 25 years or more. I think a lot of the coaches that we'll talk to will probably know us or know of us. I think that it might be asked in an interview, but I really have no concern that we couldn't get past those issues."

The mere mention by Shaw of Zygmunt's name Monday was a telling indicator that Zygmunt - the team's president of football operations - is going nowhere. In fact, Zygmunt is helping Shaw interview head-coaching candidates. Early in the 2005 season, during the height of the Martz-vs.-Zygmunt tension, it appeared Zygmunt was at least considering leaving the Rams. That no longer seems to be the case.

Meanwhile, Shaw's version of a "no comment" on the future of general manager Charley Armey was equally telling.

"I can't address it," Shaw said when asked about Armey's status with the club. "Like I said, I'm really not prepared to lay out any other organizational changes at this time."

Armey is under contract through the 2006 calendar year. Armey declined comment Wednesday when asked about his future with the Rams. Those close to Armey, who is in his mid-60s, said he is not contemplating retirement.

When all is said and done, it seems very likely the Rams will have someone new in the personnel department. Whether that's a director of pro personnel working with Armey, or a new head of the personnel department replacing Armey, remains to be seen.

But Shaw wants input from the next Rams head coach before hiring any new personnel department executives.

"This discussion about the front office will (unfold) as we are interviewing candidates," Shaw said. "That is something that will be addressed during the process. And at the time that we hire a coach, I think there will be some type of resolution."

Perhaps because the Zygmunt-Martz relationship deteriorated so dramatically, Shaw at least wants to know going in if the new head coach can work with any front-office candidates Shaw has in mind.

Over the past year, Martz made a big issue of the fact that the Rams didn't have a pro personnel director.

"I think that will be addressed," Shaw said. "That wasn't really so much an issue until this past year, and I'm not really sure what happened this past year where all of a sudden we didn't really have a pro personnel department. It wasn't an issue for the years before this past year."

In 2000, Mike Ackerley had the title of director of pro scouting with the Rams. But he joined the Tennessee Titans the following season. The Rams have not had anyone with that title, or a similar title, since Ackerley left.

Jack Faulkner has the title of pro personnel administrator, but he is semi-retired and living in Los Angeles, although he still breaks down film for the team.

Of the 32 NFL teams, the Rams are among only four clubs that don't list someone in their organization with the title of either director of pro scouting, or director of pro personnel. The others: Cincinnati, New Orleans and Oakland. The Bengals and the Saints are known cheapskates.

And the Raiders are the Raiders: They do things a little differently from everybody else. For example, the Raiders still use "bird dogs" - part-time scouts who file reports from a particular city. In St. Louis, a former high school coach attends every Rams home game and files some sort of report for the Raiders.

When Martz made an issue of the lack of a pro personnel director, Shaw did some preliminary interviews. Martz wanted Shaw to promote Rams scout Dave Boller to head a beefed-up pro personnel department.

But Shaw rejected that idea because he wants someone with more executive experience in that role. Along those lines, the Rams have interviewed Ron Hill, former vice president of football operations in Atlanta, and former Seattle general manager Bob Ferguson. The Rams have held more informal talks with former Miami general manager Rick Spielman.

Over the past couple of years, Martz felt Rams management - specifically Zygmunt - put too much credence into reports from an independent scouting group (known as Giddings). This past offseason, Martz and assistant head coach Joe Vitt did most of the legwork heading into the free-agency period, with a lot of help from their assistant coaches.

Martz also felt that Zygmunt appeared to gain increasing say in pro personnel matters. And in Martz's view, more control than met the eye since Zygmunt handles contract negotiations.

About a year ago, Martz handed a reporter a "flip card" from the Super Bowl game against New England after the 2001 season. On the Rams' defensive depth chart, he drew lines through the names of defensive players who were no longer with the club. Of the 20 names listed on the "two-deep," only six were still with the club at that time. Ten of the 11 defensive starters against the Patriots were no longer with the club.

Team management's reply is that they made no personnel decisions without Martz's blessings, giving him everything he wanted. Complicating matters in their view was the fact that Martz frequently changed his mind about players, making it difficult to know whom to pursue and whom to let go.

So this time around, it appears the Rams want to give the new head coach less power over personnel. More likely it's a return to the checks-and-balances system of the past that involved team management (Shaw and Zygmunt), the head of the personnel department (Armey, or a new hire) and the head coach.

rubbermusic
01-06-2006, 07:58 PM
By Jay Posner and Kevin Acee STAFF WRITERS
January 5, 2006

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060105/news_1s5chnotes.html

It's a good thing for Marty Schottenheimer that former NFL quarterback Boomer Esiason isn't handling his job review for the 2005 season.

"I think Marty Schottenheimer should have been fired," Esiason, now a studio analyst for CBS Sports, said yesterday on a national conference call. "I think that team was too good not to make it to the playoffs."

Esiason, who volunteered his opinion without being asked specifically about Schottenheimer, pointed to the club losing several home games and falling at Philadelphia on a blocked field goal attempt.

He also noted the presence of quarterback Drew Brees, along with "what many people think is the best player in football with LaDainian Tomlinson and . . . the great tight end (Antonio Gates) and a defense that is No. 1 against the rush and can get after the quarterback and yet they're not in the playoffs.

"Who should be held accountable there? I love Marty, but you know what, bottom line is that team underperformed this year. . . . I think somebody needs to be held accountable."

Another CBS analyst, Phil Simms, saw the Chargers play in person three times in 2005, including the season-ending loss to Denver. He cited the team's inability to play well at the end of games.

"The NFL is about winning games late," Simms said. "They had opportunities many, many times (and) they did win a few of them – the Jets come to mind. But they just didn't make the plays at the right time that they did the year before."

Brees surgery today

Brees found out yesterday that the initial diagnosis of a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder was accurate, and he will have surgery today.
The procedure will be performed by renowned orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala.

Andrews yesterday concurred that Brees had not suffered rotator cuff damage when he was hit trying to recover a fumble during Saturday's season finale.

Simms on Brees

Simms said he couldn't understand why anyone would question the identity of the Chargers' starting quarterback in 2006 – Brees.
"Why wouldn't he be the starter?" Simms said. "I'm reading all these things, should Philip Rivers or Drew Brees be the quarterback for the San Diego Chargers and I'm really floored by some of it. I'm just going, 'What are they thinking of?'

"You have a franchise quarterback that's (had) back-to-back years that have been terrific. He's learned to throw the ball better, he's a pretty good athlete – he's one of these guys that's a much better athlete than people give him credit for. I don't get it. But you know, I don't get it a lot of times.

"Nobody knows anything about Philip Rivers, and he's sitting there. I hate to say it's the old cliché (that) they always want the backup quarterback, (but) that seems to be the environment out in San Diego."

Simms, by the way, had a torn labrum at the end of his career and said "it recovered very fast" after surgery, although he never played again because the Giants released him.

"I do not think it's a big long-term worry (for Brees)," he said. "I think he'll overcome it, and I think he'll be 100 percent by the time they go to training camp next year."


Nuts 'n' Bolts

Defensive coordinator Wade Phillips will interview Monday in Green Bay for the Packers head coaching job. . . . Linebacker Donnie Edwards will have his torn meniscus surgically repaired tomorrow. Edwards played the final nine games with the injury and still finished fourth in the NFL with 152 tackles.


I'm sure Esiason didn't watch a chargers game this whole year. He's never been a Chargers fan at all and always bad mouths us in some way. This is a perfect quote about Esiason from a columnist with INSIDE THE NFL: "Boomer exaggerates and says things just for shock value. "

CPSLOCharger
01-07-2006, 09:44 AM
I was just wondering, especially now with brees hurt, there had been some speculation of trade, us giving Rivers to Minnesota, Culpepper to Arizona, and us getting something out of the deal as well of course, but I haven't been able to find anything about this, any validity?

ftwbolt
01-07-2006, 08:44 PM
I was just wondering, especially now with brees hurt, there had been some speculation of trade, us giving Rivers to Minnesota, Culpepper to Arizona, and us getting something out of the deal as well of course, but I haven't been able to find anything about this, any validity?

Since Brees is hurt, and Rivers is not going to like it, he's not going anywhere. A.J. would be crazy to let him go especially if Brees is not ready to go when the 2006 season begin ( provided of coarse A.J. resigns Brees).

As for Culpepper, the only rumors I have read is him going home to Miami or to Arizona and play for Green who drafted him.

SillyBoltsFan
01-07-2006, 08:59 PM
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1136529643210890.xml&coll=1&thispage=1
<snipped out irrelevant part>
As of now, the Jets have made no effort to extend Edwards contract, which pays him roughly $2 million per season. Edwards, who is paid among the bottom third of NFL coaches, wants an extension despite a 4-12 mark this past season.

Jets owner Woody Johnson is believed to have tightened his money belt after reportedly losing close to $70 million in the failed West Side Stadium project and having signed quarterback Chad Pennington to a $67 million contract that has paid the injury-riddled quarterback $22 million the past two seasons. He has played in just 16 games.

Edwards could get a deal in Kansas City paying him as much as $20 million over five years.

Former Saints coach Jim Haslett, former Packers coach Mike Sherman, Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel and Jets coordinators Donnie Henderson and Mike Heimerdinger are among the early candidates to replace Edwards. Henderson is scheduled to interview with the Saints this weekend, if not sooner, and Haslett interviewed with the Lions yesterday.

According to several people close to Fassel, the former Giants coach is very interested in the Jets job and hopes his time with the Giants doesn't hurt his chances. Fassel has interviewed for the Chiefs job.
This puts a different light on the rumours regarding Marty going to the Jets... for some reason I don't see him taking a pay cut to go there.

ftwbolt
01-07-2006, 09:43 PM
Posted on Sat, Jan. 07, 2006 TIMES By Eric GilmoreTIMES COLUMNIST

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/sports/football/nfl/oakland_raiders/13572434.htm

Raiders owner Al Davis doesn't need my advice. After all, he gets enough suggestions from his scary friends in the Black Hole and on sports talk radio.
That's OK. I'll give him some more advice -- it won't cost him a dime -- because that's just what we do.
Here it is:
Davis should hire 49ers assistant head coach Mike Singletary as his new coach.
Davis should hire him now before the Detroit Lions, who plan to interview Singletary next week, beat him to it.
Earlier in the week when Davis fired Norv Turner, he said he wanted to hire a coach who would "bring a hope and a passion" to his suffering fans.
Davis recounted his decision to hire Jon Gruden eight years ago, even though Gruden was just 34 and looked barely old enough to drive. Even though he was the offensive coordinator of a 6-9-1 Philadelphia Eagles team. Even though he had "problems" with some of his players.
"That didn't bother me," Davis said during a conference call. "What he gave me was passion. I thought he could grow here."
Passion. There's that word again.
Singletary is to passion what the Raiders are to television blackouts. He's fire and brimstone. He's off-the-charts charisma. He's 1,000 volts of electricity.
He's exactly what the Raiders need to shock them out of their malaise.
The Raiders need a coach who won't be swallowed up by Davis' massive shadow. They need a coach who can motivate and intimidate, a coach who can command respect and fear while working in Al's world.
Singletary is that coach. Who can forget those wide-open, crazy eyes of his when he played middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears?
Singletary's in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So is Davis. Consider that a push on the gravitas scale, one more reason Singletary could keep his players' attention and respect, despite Davis' power.
Of course the past eight Raiders coaches Davis hired had resumes heavily weighted toward offense. That doesn't bode well for Singletary.
Yet as Davis pointed out, John Madden was a Raiders linebackers coach before being promoted to the top job in 1969.
Madden turned out OK. He went 112-39-7 in 10 seasons, won one Super Bowl and captured seven divisional titles.
There's nothing wrong with hiring a defensive-minded coach. Seven of the 12 playoff teams this year have them: Indianapolis (Tony Dungy), New England (Bill Belichick), Pittsburgh (Bill Cowher), Cincinnati (Marvin Lewis), Jacksonville (Jack Del Rio), Carolina (John Fox) and Chicago (Lovie Smith).
"I want my next coach to be winning oriented," Davis said. "I want the right guy."
Singletary would need help to fix what's wrong with the Raiders' offense. And with only three years of coaching experience in the NFL, he's not an X's and O's defensive genius, either.
But Davis could hire a cutting-edge coordinator to fix his offense. That's a full-time job in itself anyway. He could keep Rob Ryan as his defensive coordinator.
Singletary wouldn't have to handle the draft or free agency. Davis and Mike Lombardi make those calls.
Singletary would be free to do what he does best, which is to lead and motivate and inspire players with a combination of passion and energy the Raiders have missed since Gruden left Oakland in 2002 to coach the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
"I don't think a head coach is something you become," Singletary told the Detroit News. "I think it's something you are.
"At some point in time, it's discovered by somebody else. One of my strengths is leadership."
At 47, Singletary still looks physically fit enough to put on a helmet and pads and drill a twenty-something running back.
He's a tough-love coach, pushing his players hard in practice, barking orders, criticism and encouragement.
If it's true that a team takes on the personality of its coach, then the Raiders under Singletary would be tough, intimidating, intelligent and passionate.
Nothing wrong with that.
Singletary is clearly on track to become an NFL coach. The question is when.
Some teams still might be scared off by his lack of extensive coaching experience.
Davis, though, often travels where other owners refuse to go. In 1979, he hired Tom Flores, the NFL's first Hispanic coach. In 1989, he hired Art Shell, the NFL's second black coach overall and first in the modern era. Gruden was the NFL's youngest coach when Davis hired him. He's still the league's youngest coach.
Davis said he'll go with his "gut instinct" when he hires his next coach.
For the Raiders' sake, Davis' gut should tell him to hire Singletary.


Capers contacted

Chargers need to get on the ball if somebody grabs Wade Phillips !!

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/football/pro/dolphins/sfl-dollede07jan07,0,7064488.story?coll=sfla-dolphins-front

Saban has contacted former Houston Texans head coach Dom Capers about a position on his staff, a source said Friday.

Although fired by the Texans on Monday following a 2-14 season, Capers is considered one of the NFL's top defensive coaches. Capers has already received feelers from five other teams about defensive coordinator positions, the source said.

It's unknown whether Saban is discussing a defensive coordinator role with Capers. Richard Smith currently has the Dolphins' defensive coordinator title but splits responsibilities with assistant head coach/defense Will Muschamp.

Saban declined comment about the situation through a Dolphins spokesman. Jimmy Sexton, who is the agent for Saban and Capers, didn't return two telephone calls seeking comment.

Capers, 55, was Carolina's head coach from 1995 to 1998. He also served as defensive coordinator in Jacksonville (1999 and 2000) and Pittsburgh (1992 through 1994).

Capers is especially knowledgeable about the 3-4 defensive system the Dolphins deploy.


Tedford says he's 'committed' to Cal
By Dave Newhouse, STAFF WRITER

http://www.insidebayarea.com/sports/ci_3380213


BERKELEY — Jeff Tedford turned around Cal's football program, now he spends a good part of his time turning down offers to leave.
With eight NFL head-coaching positions open Monday, and seven available Friday after Minnesota named Brad Childress, Tedford's name has come up again as a possible successor ... somewhere.

But he isn't leaving Cal.

"I have been contacted by NFL teams, some directly and some indirectly, about coaching vacancies," Tedford said Friday. "Although I'm flattered by the interest, I am firmly committed to remaining the football coach at the University of California."

Tedford wouldn't say which NFL teams approached him. The Chicago Bears made him a serious offer a year ago.

"This is an exciting time for our program," he said. "We have a lot of young talent returning to the team, and we are on the verge of another strong recruiting class. The stadium project is now under way, and our student-athletes are excelling in the classroom."
Tedford is 33-17 at Cal after inheriting a 1-10 team in 2002. Cal was 8-4 this season, won its second bowl game in three consecutive tries and finished No.25 in the Associated Press and USA Today polls.

ftwbolt
01-07-2006, 09:57 PM
Posted on Sat, Jan. 07, 2006
UM athletic director Paul Dee said that although the Hurricanes have contacted candidates for the coaching vacancies, the team has been more focused on taking advantage of a crucial week in the recruiting process.

BY SUSAN MILLER DEGNANsdegnan@MiamiHerald.com

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13571629.htm

University of Miami athletic director Paul Dee said Friday that football coach Larry Coker has ''talked to some people'' about the five coaching vacancies, but that ``this week has been spent almost 100 percent on recruiting, because the [recruiting] clock stops [tonight] for a week.''
Said Dee: ``At this point, I'm not aware of anybody being proposed for a position for any of the five vacancies. They've talked to some people and have received a lot of calls and résumés.''
San Diego Chargers tight ends coach Rob Chudzinski, who played at UM and preceded Werner as offensive coordinator, is someone Coker likely would want for the position.
But the chance of Chudzinski -- who makes a hefty NFL assistant's salary and might be in line for an NFL offensive coordinator's position in the future -- appears unlikely.

Also, North Carolina State offensive coordinator Marc Trestman, a former UM quarterbacks assistant who coached Bernie Kosar, said Friday through an N.C. State spokeswoman that he has not been contacted by the Hurricanes.
''That is completely unfounded,'' Trestman said. ``I have not talked to anyone at the University of Miami. I have been recruiting for North Carolina State all week. I'm doing the things a coordinator at North Carolina State should be doing.''
Dee said hirings are not imminent and that UM's remaining coaches will attend the coaches convention next week in Dallas, where discussions are expected between the UM staff and various candidates.
After Coker fired offensive coordinator Dan Werner, offensive line coach Art Kehoe, running backs coach Don Soldinger and linebackers coach Vernon Hargreaves on Monday (defensive line coach Greg Mark was fired in October), the head coach concentrated his efforts on securing the high school players who had orally committed to the Hurricanes.
This week, through tonight, has been an open period for recruiting, meaning coaches have been permitted to have unlimited contact with recruits.
''I want to get this done with all deliberate speed,'' Dee said of the hiring process. ``But not at the expense of not making sure we get the right person.
``I want to make sure we take our time, but I think it can be done by signing day [Feb. 1].
``If it could, then that would be better, because then the recruits would know who was coming and so forth and that could be very positive.''
Dee said the hiring decisions will be Coker's, with defensive coordinator Randy Shannon playing a large part in hiring the two defensive assistants.
''It's Larry's judgment,'' Dee said. ``But when they bring people, I'm going to take a look at who they bring.''
When asked if the offensive hires would be done as a package, Dee said, 'At this point I'd say every job is independent. It may well be that somebody will say, `I'd like to bring somebody with me,' but that's not unusual.''


Childress: Culpepper staying put as starting QB
Brad Childress makes a decision and makes sure his tenure with the Vikings won't begin with a dreaded quarterback controversy.

Last update: January 06, 2006 – 10:13 PM

http://www.startribune.com/510/story/168837.html

Vikings coach Brad Childress nipped any quarterback controversy in the bud during his first day on the job.
"Daunte Culpepper right now is the franchise quarterback," Childress said Friday in the Vikings' Winter Park locker room. "That's how they signed him. He's the guy. We'll just leave it at that."

Culpepper is coming off his worst season. He threw 12 interceptions, six touchdown passes and went 2-5 as a starter before tearing three ligaments in his left knee during the seventh game of the season. Veteran Brad Johnson stepped in and went 7-2 as a starter. He threw 12 touchdown passes and only four interceptions in 294 passes.

Johnson, who signed a four-year deal before this season, indicated strongly that he wants to remain a starter in the NFL. Culpepper has limited his comments to the media since the injury, but head athletic trainer Chuck Barta said Culpepper is on pace to return in time for training camp.

Childress had not spoken to Culpepper or Johnson as of Friday afternoon.

It would appear that Johnson is more suited to direct the version of the West Coast offense that Childress will bring with him from Philadelphia. Childress will hire an offensive coordinator but will call his own plays, which is how Eagles head coach Andy Reid operates.

"Brad Johnson is a talented guy who won a lot of games this year," Childress said. "I'm familiar with him, and he knows this system. He knows the lingo I'm going to bring in here."

Childress, however, said he believes players shouldn't lose starting positions because of injury. It also doesn't make sense financially to bench Culpepper, one of the highest-paid players in the league. Culpepper also is due a $6 million bonus in March.

Childress said he believes Culpepper can succeed in the West Coast offense, which relies on short, precise passes rather than on the deep balls that landed Culpepper in three Pro Bowls.

Culpepper and Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb were drafted in the first round of the 1999 draft. McNabb went second overall and Culpepper 11th. Childress worked out both of them before the draft.

"We saw Daunte Culpepper work out first, and I thought I would never see another workout like that as long as I lived," Childress said. "The next workout was Donovan McNabb. And saw another one ... that was mind-boggling.

"In my mind, we got the No. 1 player, but Daunte was a very close second. He fits right into all the things that we'll do."

Childress was McNabb's quarterbacks coach for his first three seasons and has been credited with developing McNabb into one of the league's best quarterbacks. Many believe Culpepper regressed this season because he lost offensive coordinator-quarterbacks coach Scott Linehan, who left after last season to join the Dolphins.

"I've helped develop a franchise quarterback," Childress said. "And that development started from the draft, riding down from the draft with the playbook in the back of a limousine, getting him ready for the minicamp at the end of that week."

Culpepper won't be back in time for minicamps this year. But make no mistake about it. When he's healthy again, he will be, in the words of the new boss, "the guy."

AREA (NINE) 51
01-07-2006, 10:05 PM
here's something for you guys to pounder. let me know what you think. hows this for you the jest hire martty as thier new coach and compinsate use with a 4th an 5th round pick t.b.d. the give over the rains to cam cammoron and he becomes the chargers new coach what's thier recoard in 06? play offs? or is it "PLAYOFFS!!! WHAT PLAYOFFS" what is this best case senario worst case senario? is this a dream or a nightmare you tell me.

rubbermusic
01-07-2006, 10:20 PM
here's something for you guys to pounder. let me know what you think. hows this for you the jest hire martty as thier new coach and compinsate use with a 4th an 5th round pick t.b.d. the give over the rains to cam cammoron and he becomes the chargers new coach what's thier recoard in 06? play offs? or is it "PLAYOFFS!!! WHAT PLAYOFFS" what is this best case senario worst case senario? is this a dream or a nightmare you tell me.

I don't know how the Marty/Cam coaching tandem works. Everyone seems to be complaining about our offensive calls. If it's Cam making the calls like some say, do we really want him as the HC. I hope our staff stays intact except for a new special teams coach.

mrnoize
01-07-2006, 10:56 PM
I know that some folks out here think that some folks are marty bashers.

Well, it looks like AJ is a marty basher then, too. (huh)

We who critcize marty for blowing games, have just been proved to be right.
And right from the top.

The article states that Dean Spanos feels the exact same way as we do.

Don't call us marty bashers. we speak the truth and are realists. Some peeps may call us negitive but, now we all know that we are realists.

Marty has one year left to get us to the playoffs and if not he is gone.
You know that means that next season we cannot lose.

We could go to the playoffs or have our old school sissy coach fired.

sounds good to me!

mrnoize
01-07-2006, 11:02 PM
He went to Miami, right?

Now their OL is great and ours stinks.

I have a friend that is a Dallas fan and when Houck left them they were horrible.(last year)

History repeated itself, but unfortunatley it was us this time

Bolts Wayback
01-08-2006, 07:25 AM
Any truth to the rumor that the Chargers were trying to ink Tight End Landon Trusty to a one year deal and it fell through because he was offered a three year deal with Denver and he took it instead????????

TJ21
01-08-2006, 07:50 AM
He went to Miami, right?

Now their OL is great and ours stinks.

I have a friend that is a Dallas fan and when Houck left them they were horrible.(last year)

History repeated itself, but unfortunatley it was us this time
Sad but true. I don't know how we let him go...

TJ21
01-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Any truth to the rumor that the Chargers were trying to ink Tight End Landon Trusty to a one year deal and it fell through because he was offered a three year deal with Denver and he took it instead????????
As of right now he's not a member of any team...

IgorUnchained
01-08-2006, 02:54 PM
THE BOLTS

Other teams have been waiting to see if San Diego would be willing to part with one of its quarterbacks. But they could be waiting a long time.

Even before San Diego quarterback Drew Brees separated his shoulder Saturday, the Chargers' overwhelming intentions were to bring back both quarterbacks next season, Brees and Philip Rivers.

The Chargers were of the mind that no team would be willing to give them what they wanted for Rivers, the former fourth overall pick of the 2004 Draft, and he had more value to San Diego than another team.

Brees' injury is likely to only reinforce the notion. So expect to see both Brees and Rivers back in San Diego's camp next summer, though it is uncertain whether Brees will be able to land the long-term contract he wants.

Brees could be franchised again, just as he was this past season, when he earned $8.1 million on his one-year deal. Next season, the number would rise to $9.7 million, which should give the Chargers incentive to work out a long-term deal with their quarterback, rather than pay him so much in a one-year contract.
(Adam Schefter)

rubbermusic
01-08-2006, 04:00 PM
THE BOLTS

Other teams have been waiting to see if San Diego would be willing to part with one of its quarterbacks. But they could be waiting a long time.

Even before San Diego quarterback Drew Brees separated his shoulder Saturday, the Chargers' overwhelming intentions were to bring back both quarterbacks next season, Brees and Philip Rivers.

The Chargers were of the mind that no team would be willing to give them what they wanted for Rivers, the former fourth overall pick of the 2004 Draft, and he had more value to San Diego than another team.

Brees' injury is likely to only reinforce the notion. So expect to see both Brees and Rivers back in San Diego's camp next summer, though it is uncertain whether Brees will be able to land the long-term contract he wants.

Brees could be franchised again, just as he was this past season, when he earned $8.1 million on his one-year deal. Next season, the number would rise to $9.7 million, which should give the Chargers incentive to work out a long-term deal with their quarterback, rather than pay him so much in a one-year contract.
(Adam Schefter)

I say they work out a 4 or 5 year deal paying him maybe 6 or 7 mil his first year with a buyout for the 2nd year if he doesn't come back well from the injury, that way it would be cheaper than Franchising him and we would be protected in case he can't perform anymore.

ftwbolt
01-08-2006, 05:56 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/380985p-323506c.html

Is Marty Ball coming to the Jets? Terry Bradway used his Kansas City connection five years ago when he hired Herm Edwards. There was speculation yesterday he could use it again to try bringing his old friend Marty Schottenheimer in to replace Edwards.
Schottenheimer signed a two-year extension with the Chargers after last season but has a chilly relationship with GM A.J. Smith. His deal runs through 2007. The Chargers, one of the most talented teams in the NFL, had a disappointing 9-7 season, even though they stopped the Colts' undefeated bid at 13-0 and also won on the road at New England and Washington. They had a brutal schedule and in their first five defeats, they lost by a combined total of 14 points.

Schottenheimer may not be the most exciting choice, but he would bring credibility to a chaotic situation. He has more regular-season wins than any active coach and is tied for seventh on the all-time list. His playoff record, however, is pathetic: 5-12 with no Super Bowl visits.

The Chargers are clearly closer to a championship than the Jets. Thus, at age 62, Schottenheimer, already in his fourth head coaching job, may be reluctant to take over a rebuilding project with the intense scrutiny of New York. But it's common knowledge around the NFL that Schottenheimer and Smith don't get along, which potentially could lead to an opening for Bradway to exploit - if he calls the Chargers. He could just send that fourth-round pick he got for Edwards over to San Diego.

Smith, when asked yesterday if there was any truth to Schottenheimer-to-the-Jets, said on the phone from San Diego, "I don't discuss our football business."

That certainly leaves things open to interpretation.

Schottenheimer coached the Chiefs from 1989-98. Bradway worked in the Chiefs' personnel department from 1992-2000. While they are not necessarily as close as Edwards and Chiefs president Carl Peterson, there is a strong relationship. In fact, if Bradway had not been hired as Jets GM in 2001, he might have gone to Washington with Schottenheimer.

The grind-it-out Marty Ball has been put in storage the last couple of years. The Chargers have an explosive offense with Drew Brees, LaDainian Tomlinson and Antonio Gates. Brees, however, underwent surgery on his right shoulder last week to fix a torn labrum suffered in the final game of the season. a game in which Schottenheimer should have started Philip Rivers to showcase him for a trade. Now they can't trade Rivers - he's their insurance - although they expect Brees to start throwing in four months and be ready for training camp. The injury confuses the Brees situation. Do they franchise him again or sign him to a long-term deal? Nobody will trade for him until they see him throw in training camp.

There are two things Schottenheimer has going against him. Hiring him would add another layer to the Kansas City Jets. Enough with Kansas City, right? The Chiefs haven't won the Super Bowl in 36 years. And, last January, Schottenheimer was outcoached by Edwards, his former assistant, in the playoffs. That's doesn't look good on the resume.

Originally published on January 8, 2006

ftwbolt
01-08-2006, 06:59 PM
Radom ruminations while wondering whatever happened to Les Hunter

Commentary By JOE BIDDLE Staff Writer

http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060108/COLUMNIST0201/601080384/1106/SPORTS

ESPN's Chris Mortensen has reported that the Rams and Texans might be interested in talking with Titans Coach Jeff Fisher about their coaching vacancies.

Coming off two disappointing seasons, Fisher might entertain overtures, but since he is still under contract, interested parties would have to seek permission from Titans owner Bud Adams to talk with Fisher.

Stay tuned.

• NFL scuttlebutt has fired St. Louis Coach Mike Martz headed to Oakland. What a marriage that promises to be. Owner Al Davis is not in good health and Martz had to sit out much of the season in St. Louis after having a heart procedure.

• If I were an NFL owner looking for a head coach, I'd put in a call to Titans assistant Dave McGinnis. McGinnis is a straight shooter, hard worker and a great communicator. He was the head coach at Arizona and although they didn't win, they haven't won under anyone and have one of the tightest owners in the NFL in Bill Bidwell.

Former Cardinals Coach Gene Stallings had to buy season tickets for his wife when he worked for Bidwell.

• Speaking of Stallings, Alabama has named its training room for Stallings' son, John Mark. John Mark has Down syndrome and wasn't supposed to live past four years. He is now in his 40s and the light of Stallings' and his family's lives.

• Former Arizona Cardinals linebacker Simon Shanks, who was fatally shot outside his home while his wife and children fled unharmed from three assailants, played for TSU 1989-90.

Shanks, who played for the Arizona Cardinals in 1995, was shot Thursday night by one of three men who came to his Phoenix home. He died hours later at Good Samaritan Hospital.

Shanks led the Cardinals' special teams in tackles with 27 in his lone season with Arizona.

Draft pool not yet complete

Titans GM Floyd Reese and his staff have to wait until next Sunday to see which college juniors or redshirt sophomores apply for the NFL Draft.

The number of underclassmen applying for the draft continues to increase. According to Reese, there were 101 underclassmen who petitioned the NFL a year ago.

In the senior class, Reese thinks the linebacker group is heavy with prospects.

• Reese and Titans coaches spent much of last week in meetings, trying to get a handle on where the current team stands.

"The identity issue is something we talked about,'' Reese said. "When you played the Titans, you knew this. They were going to put a knot on your head. They were going to pound you (on offense) and hit you on defense. I asked them, do we want to go back to what we did 4-5 years ago? If that's what we want, tell me and I'll go get them.''

No, that doesn't mean Eddie George is coming back.

If the Titans had an identity the past two seasons, I was unable to detect it.



Culpepper's absense raises eyebrows
Posted on Sun, Jan. 08, 2006
BY CHARLEY WALTERS Pioneer Press)

New Vikings coach Brad Childress' inability to reach quarterback Daunte Culpepper after his hiring last week raised some eyebrows. Although Vikings owner Zygi Wilf said he intends to pay Culpepper, who was deplorable before tearing three knee ligaments this season, a $6 million bonus that's due in March, some people believe Culpepper could be traded. A likely team would be the Miami Dolphins, to reunite Culpepper with offensive coordinator Scott Linehan.

That would leave Brad Johnson as the Vikings' starting QB and would require the team to sign a free-agent veteran backup, perhaps former Heisman Trophy winner Chris Weinke of St. Paul and the Carolina Panthers. Then the Vikings would need to draft a quarterback in April.

) Wilf, asked if the Vikings would provide Johnson with a new contract after he led them to a 7-2 record in their last nine games, said, "He's already got a contract." Johnson will earn $1 million next season.

) With safety Corey Chavous not expected back, look for the Vikings to target Adam Archuleta of the St. Louis Rams in free agency.
) It turns out that because part of Vikings cornerback Fred Smoot's $10.8 million signing bonus is in the form of a roster bonus, the team wouldn't take much of a salary cap hit if he were released. But the Vikings insist plans are to retain Smoot, who didn't play in the season finale against Chicago because he missed curfew the night before the game.

If the Vikings keep Smoot, they probably would lose cornerback Brian Williams via free agency.

Overheard
) Vikings 6-foot-3, 317-pound nose tackle Pat Williams, to Childress: "Don't worry about anything; I've got your back."

I really hope A.J. get's a chance to talk to Adam Archuleta before the Vikings do.

IgorUnchained
01-09-2006, 03:21 PM
• Contrary to widespread speculation word is the New York Jets have very little, if any, interest in either Matt Leinart or Philip Rivers. Also, the team feels they have so many needs (OL, RB, QB, TE, DT, etc.) that they might be best served by trading down in the draft and accumulating picks, even if they had a shot at a guy like Reggie Bush.

NFLDraftCountdown

Surewin
01-09-2006, 05:16 PM
That guy is a pain in everyone's a$$!

ftwbolt
01-09-2006, 06:35 PM
Monday, January 09, 2006
By Tom Kowalski

http://www.mlive.com/lions/stories/index.ssf?/base/sports-1/1136805008110490.xml&coll=1&thispage=1

ALLEN PARK -- The decision by quarterback Vince Young to forego his senior season at the University of Texas to turn pro could have a profound impact on the Detroit Lions' off-season plans.

Young's stock is sky-high after his memorable Rose Bowl performance as the Longhorns beat Southern California in the national championship game. Young is expected to be a top-three draft pick.

The other top picks will likely be quarterback Matt Leinart and running back Reggie Bush, both of USC. If the Houston Texans keep quarterback David Carr, which they've hinted at, they would take Bush with the No. 1 pick. The New Orleans Saints, picking second overall, would then likely take either Young or Leinart, leaving the other quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, who are selecting third.

That would mean Titans backup quarterback Billy Volek could be placed on the trading block. And the Lions, who have the ninth overall pick in the draft, will be looking for a quarterback, maybe two.

Jeff Garcia will be an unrestricted free agent and is not expected to return and Joey Harrington, who is due a $4 million roster bonus on June 15 (and a 2006 salary of $4.45 million), has an unsettled situation.

The Lions are currently searching for a new head coach and Lions president Matt Millen has said the decision to keep or release Harrington will be left to the new coach. There is not a strong group of veteran free-agent quarterbacks available in the off-season -- Arizona's Josh McCown, who lost his starting job this season to Kurt Warner, is considered by many analysts to be the top free-agent quarterback.

Because Volek is currently under contract with the Titans, the NFL's tampering rules forbid the Lions from speaking publicly about any possible interest in him.

If the Titans do draft either Leinart or Young, they're expected to keep starter Steve McNair around until the young quarterback is ready to take the reins. It's an ideal setup because McNair is near the end of his career. Volek, who will turn 30 the day before the April 29-30 draft begins, has made it clear he wants a chance to play.

In addition to a possible crowded Titans roster at that position, there are also salary cap considerations. Volek has a $500,000 roster bonus due in March and he's scheduled to make $1 million in salary next season, which isn't expensive by NFL standards. However, Volek reportedly has a $4 million option in his contract -- if the Titans pick it up, it extends his contract one more year, taking him through the 2008 season. It's unlikely the Titans will want to pay that money if they've already got two big-money quarterbacks on board.

Volek, from Fresno State, was originally signed as an undrafted free agent in 2000 and he threw only three passes in his first two seasons with the Titans. In the last three years, though, he's appeared in 23 games and has completed 60 percent of his passes for 3,505 yards, 26 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. His career passer efficiency rating is 86.9; the highest career rating for a Lions quarterback (with a minimum of 500 passes) is just 79.2 (Scott Mitchell, 1994-98).

The Titans would be more likely to trade Volek than just release him because several teams are looking for quarterback help. In addition to the Lions, the New York Jets, Arizona Cardinals and Miami Dolphins will also have interest.


QB Situation Top Bucs' Agenda

By ROY *******S r*******s@tampatrib.com
Published: Jan 9, 2006

http://sports.tbo.com/sports/MGBGVJU48IE.html

TAMPA - The only thing harder than piecing together a playoff team is keeping it together. The Bucs know from experience.

In the wake of their second consecutive trip to the playoffs in 2000, Tony Dungy's Bucs lost guard Frank Middleton, cornerback Donnie Abraham, defensive end Chidi Ahanotu, and assistant coaches Herm Edwards and Lovie Smith.

They didn't seem to be the most devastating of losses, but a year later the Bucs won one fewer game, and their first-round exit from the playoffs with yet another loss at Philadelphia resulted in Dungy's firing.

Only time will tell, of course, but the current Bucs might be in danger of suffering a run of personnel losses similar to the 2000 team.

Defensive line coach Rod Marinelli (Kansas City) and secondary coach Mike Tomlin (Minnesota), are already drawing interest from teams in need of defensive coordinators, and free agency also could rob the Bucs of a few players.

It all adds up to a busy offseason for the Bucs, who were pushed out of postseason play Saturday when they lost a 17-10 decision to the Redskins at Raymond James Stadium.

How the Bucs will prioritize matters remains uncertain. It's likely, though, that topping their list will be solidifying a coaching staff that General Manager Bruce Allen has readily referred to as the best in the league.

Allen was believed to be meeting with Marinelli on Sunday, possibly hoping to get him back under contract before new Chiefs coach Herm Edwards can extend Marinelli an offer to become his defensive coordinator.

Tomlin is believed to be among the assistants that new Vikings coach Brad Childress would like to add to his staff. Other suitors for Tomlin also could emerge.

The Bucs also have several offensive coaches whose contracts expire in the coming weeks, including line coach Bill Muir and running backs coach Art Valero.

While solidifying their coaching staff, the Bucs also must start to determine what potential unrestricted free agents they want to re-sign and how to go about keeping quarterback Chris Simms.

Simms is a restricted free agent, which means any team signing him would have to compensate the Bucs with draft picks. But the Bucs probably want to determine Simms' value themselves, so re-signing him might be a top priority.

The group of unrestricted free agents includes starters such as right tackle Kenyatta Walker, nose tackle Chris Hovan and place-kicker Matt Bryant, and reserves such as cornerback Juran Bolden and receiver Ike Hilliard.

Weakness On The Line
On the field, the area that appears to need the most attention is the offensive line. Though the Bucs were happy with the progress their young players made there, the loss to the Redskins exposed weaknesses.

The Bucs struggled in their loss Saturday to gain the upper hand at the point of attack against a bigger and more powerful defensive front. There were also times when the Bucs' line broke down against a quick pass rush.

The Bucs were happy with the run blocking of left tackle Anthony Davis, but the slow-footedness he displays as a pass protector might force the Bucs to move him to right tackle, especially if they lose Walker to free agency.

The Bucs were happy with the play of left guard Dan Buenning and center John Wade, but they'd like to get bigger at right guard. Sean Mahan manned that spot this year, but the Bucs' belief that he is better suited to play center might lead to a change on the interior.

The Bucs also will look to upgrade their receiving corps, but if Michael Clayton can regain his health, their rumored interest in Terrell Owens might be unnecessary.

Clayton came to camp out of shape because of offseason knee surgery and never regained the form he showed when he set a team rookie record by catching 80 passes for 1,193 yards and seven touchdowns.

Gettting Claytone Healthy
"This [season] just started off wrong and Coach [Jon] Gruden is a guy who wants his players 100 percent there, and I wasn't," Clayton said. "It's my fault. I did everything I could, but it wasn't good enough to be seen in Coach's eyes as being healthy. So my mind-set this year is to get back to playing football the way I know how, and hopefully it will be a different story next year."

Brian Griese's season ended the same way as Clayton's - on the shelf. Unlike Clayton, though, a viable successor clearly emerged during Griese's absence.

With Simms and backups Tim Rattay and Luke McCown on the roster, the Bucs must decide whether to keep Griese, whose salary-cap figure jumps from $1.4 million to $7.1 million next year.

The Bucs may opt to cut Griese and re-sign him as a backup or challenger to Simms. Or, Griese may seek his release so that he's free to look for work with another team such as Detroit, New Orleans or Arizona.

Either way, Griese's future is one of the many issues the Bucs will have to deal with during the early portion of what figures to be a busy offseason.

Last week, they signed five "street" free agents to active/future contracts: QB Jared Allen, T Sam Lightbody, DT Keith Wright, and WRs Chas Gessner and Terrence Stubbs.

The good news for the Bucs on Sunday was that Carolina's victory against the New York Giants assured Tampa Bay of picking 23rd, ahead of the Panthers, in April's NFL draft. A victory by the Giants would have resulted in the Bucs and Panthers flipping a coin for the 23rd pick.




BUCS' OFFSEASON TO-DO LIST
1. Solidify coaching staff: Team would like to retain defensive line coach Rod Marinelli and secondary coach Mike Tomlin, both of whom are being eyed by other teams.
2. Determine status of free agents: If he isn't looking for a new team, Chris Simms is at least looking for a new contract. Other free agents include Chris Hovan, Kenyatta Walker and Matt Bryant.

3. Bulk up the offensive line: Inability to run against bigger Redskins defenders exposed a Bucs weakness.

4. Get Michael Clayton healthy: Dropoff after spectacular rookie season concerns Bucs, who might resort to signing Terrell Owens.

5. Make a decision on Brian Griese: Contract of injured QB calls for fat increase next season.

ftwbolt
01-09-2006, 06:53 PM
Monday, January 09, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff
Jets general manager Terry Bradway will begin his first day as the new face of the organization at a news conference today and is as excited as he has been in his 21-year NFL career, according to someone close to the GM.

Bradway, under fire for his handling of the departure of coach Herman Edwards and coming away with only a fourth-round pick, will hire his second head coach and must make franchise-altering decisions on what to do with the fourth overall pick in the April draft and at the quarterback position.

In fairness to Bradway, the Jets were considered a playoff team at the start of this season before being ravaged by injuries. His last two drafts have produced middle linebacker Jonathan Vilma, left tackle Adrian Jones, safety Erik Coleman, kicker Mike Nugent, cornerback Justin Miller and safety Kerry Rhodes, all starters.


Plus, the Jets have been to the playoffs in three of the past five seasons.

"Herm and Terry have been together for five years and now Terry feels it's time for him to step up and take a bigger, more visible role in the organization," the person close to Bradway said yesterday. "Herm was the guy out front and Terry was okay with that. Now, I think he feels recharged. This is a great opportunity for him to put his mark on the team.

"The situation with Herm is probably best for both parties. Herm got what he wanted and maybe after five years the organization needed a change. Five years in New York is a long time for a coach. It's not like five years in Pittsburgh or Denver or someplace like that."

Bradway, who has refused to return repeated phone calls, began his search for a head coach last night, having dinner with former Saints coach Jim Haslett. He'll talk to Rams interim head coach Joe Vitt later this week.

Tim Lewis (Giants), Mike Sherman (Packers), Jim Skipper (Panthers), Jim Fassel (Ravens), Mike Tice (Vikings) and Eric Mangini (Patriots) are also on the list.

Mangini, who turns 35 next week, is an interesting case. Although his age is a negative, he's a protégé of Bill Belichick and that intrigues the Jets, who must wait until the Patriots' latest playoff run is over to interview him.

Tice, who is from Long Island, also has some admirers in the organization, despite the turmoil he endured in Minnesota this season.

A team official said yesterday the club has no interest in Chargers head coach Marty Schottenheimer, who has $8.5 million and two years remaining on his contract.

The Jets are looking for a disciplinarian, preferably one with head-coaching experience, but they may be willing to take a gamble on someone like Mangini, the team official said.

Though Edwards' departure turned ugly, he and Bradway remain the best of friends. They spoke for over an hour on Saturday and wished each other well.

The person close to Bradway said the GM was willing to go to bat for Edwards to help get him an extension despite coming off a 4-12 season, but Edwards never asked and owner Woody Johnson had grown weary of Edwards' unhappiness with his contract. The owner gave Edwards an extension after a 6-10 season in 2003.


Cottrell told he is out
Six coaches informed they won't be retained
BY SEAN JENSENPioneer Press

http://www.twincities.com/mld/pioneerpress/sports/13581695.htm

New Vikings coach Brad Childress has notified several assistants, including defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell, that they won't be retained.
Cottrell said Childress called him Sunday evening to inform him of his decision.
"He said he's going in a different direction," Cottrell said. "I just have to move on."
Special-teams coach Rusty Tillman and strength and conditioning assistant Mark Ellis both said they got the same news. And, according to Ellis, so did assistant secondary coach Kevin Ross, assistant defensive line coach Jim Panagos and receivers coach Wes Chandler.
Tight ends coach John Tice said he was unsure of his status.
Meanwhile, coverage coordinator Chuck Knox Jr., assistant quarterbacks coach Randy Hanson, defensive line coach Brian Baker, strength and conditioning coach Kurtis Shultz and offensive quality coach Todd Downing are believed to be getting opportunities to interview with Childress for openings to remain with the Vikings.
The status of Rich Olson (quarterbacks), Dean Dalton (running backs) and Pete Bercich (linebackers) is unclear.
Childress and vice president of football operations Rob Brzezinski couldn't be reached for comment.
Meanwhile, Tampa Bay Buccaneers secondary coach Mike Tomlin appears to be a leading candidate for Cottrell's position. Tomlin, who finished his fifth season as the Bucs' defensive backs coach, played at William & Mary with Vikings Pro Bowl free safety Darren Sharper.
Tomlin has consistently led one of the league's top secondaries, including in 2002, when his top-ranked unit had four of Tampa Bay's five interceptions, and returned two for touchdowns, in Super Bowl XXXVII.

drangus
01-09-2006, 11:02 PM
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/teams/chargers/index.html

Chargers Team Report
1/8/2006

By Kevin Acee
San Diego Union-Tribune


QB Drew Brees' surgery to repair a torn labrum in his throwing arm will force the Chargers' brain trust to take a gamble of sorts. While Brees is expected to make a full recovery, it seems unlikely the team would sign the quarterback to a multi-year deal while his arm is on the mend. And providing the guaranteed money of a franchise tender is not likely in the offing either. What the Chargers likely will do is make Brees their transition player. As a transition player, Brees can negotiate with all suitors. Should another team make him an offer, the Chargers would have a week to match it. . . . It appears Stephen Cooper will have to wait another year to become a starter. Nothing is official, but MLB Randall Godfrey is leaning toward returning for another season. Godfrey plays only on first and second down and remains a sure run-stopper. He was concerned about his body breaking down. But a season relatively free of injury has him reconsidering the retirement he announced last summer. . . CB Quentin Jammer is not likely to move to safety, despite speculation he might be able to fill the team's need for a playmaking safety. Jammer's biggest weakness--his inability to find the ball in the air--would be just as much of a problem at safety as at corner.

FREE-AGENT BUZZ: The Chargers' needs in the secondary might be as simple as finding a safety that can be where he needs to be to make big plays, especially against the pass. The hard part could be finding that player. There are not a lot of big-play guys available, though one intriguing name is Buccaneers FS Dexter Jackson. It is more likely the Chargers look for the safety in the draft. General manager A.J. Smith prefers to build his teams that way. But he has also indicated there could be more action in the free agent market than in recent years, and the Chargers have the cap room to sign a veteran or two.


http://chargers.scout.com/2/486389.html



The Justice Files

By Ross Warner

Date: Jan 7, 2006

Leave it to the Bolts to try to screw up New Year's Eve. I'm exaggerating, slightly. This wasn't as bad as that December 31st a decade ago where Tony Martin let the ball hit him in the facemask in the end zone, en route to an interception. When a drunk Chris Mims showed up at The Murph the following morning to clean out his locker while dressed in a top hat and tails, the Chargers' ten-year postseason drought had officially begun.

On Saturday, we already knew the season would be over after the final gun. That's the sad thing. This game should have meant something. Sadly, all it proved was that Bolts have been lifeless in the season's most critical moments.
I'm not going to spend three pages JUSTIFYING why The Organization should fire Marty Schottenheimer. I expressed my opinion on that matter three years ago. What's so frustrating about Schottenheimer, and subsequently the Chargers, is the lack of accountability. I don't know if the rumors of A.J. wanting to fire Marty have any validity, but I do know that Smith is not big on excuses. That's all we ever hear from Schottenheimer.

I've lived in New York for my entire life, so you can expect me to shoot from the hip. But when San Diegans are storming the Union-Tribune's web site to call for Marty's head, you know that this has gone too far. Both of our coordinators are being considered for head coaching positions, but no one would hire our coach away from us. That should tell you something. Boomer isn't the only member of the media that thinks Marty is holding this team back. Alex and Dean Spanos claim to regret sticking with Beathard over Ross in '96. Don't make the same mistake twice, guys.

Of course, I was watching the Rose Bowl last night and realized that I was seeing more consistent offensive playcalling than I saw for the last eight games of the Chargers season. Remember when we used to go to a hurry-up offense in order to keep the opposition guessing? Three step drops to avoid the rush? Roll outs? Don't even get me started on our inability to run an effective screen. LaDainian Tomlinson deserves to be able to shine in the way Tiki Barber has.

We will never know how Brees' injury affected the Bolts' off-season plans at the quarterback position. I've written at length lately about how Brees crumbled down the stretch. I know our offensive line hasn't made things easy, but I'm ready to cut the cord. This is not because I'm sure that Philip Rivers will become a star. I just don't think Brees is worth taking that chance. It hurts to say, but that's how frustrated I am.

But I really don't think the Bolts will deal. Especially with the injury, they may try to keep both quarterbacks around for the short term. But we need to upgrade. We tried coming back with the same players as last year. We have cap money. I'd be fine eating Schottenheimer's $3 million, but I'll settle for some help on the offensive line and in the secondary. Yes, Quentin Jammer played better over the last eight games. No, that does not mean he is a good cornerback. When Dan Fouts spoke about Jammer's alma mater not being able to hold on to interceptions during the Rose Bowl, he might as well have been talking about our secondary. How many times did we watch them drop passes and then celebrate afterwards by making the incomplete signal? I'm talking to you, Drayton Florence. I actually saw him pumping his fist on Sunday when he could have been trying to make a play.

So there you have it. We need more talent and better use of that talent. I don't want to hear how the Bolts couldn't overcome a slow start or how they ran out of gas. Everybody in the NFL knows we have talent, but haven't shown the balls or brains to go with it. When A.J. Smith was asked by the Union-Tribune what disappointed him the most about this season, he said: "I'm disappointed in everything," he said. "We're not in the playoffs. I don't care about the schedule. I don't care about the East Coast trips. . . . Whatever the number (of victories) is to be in the postseason, just get to the postseason. It wasn't done. You don't lose four home games and hope to make any progress toward getting a playoff spot."

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm not suggesting that A.J. has all the answers, but I do know he's at least realistically looking at the problems. So the next time you hear the Spanoses or a Marty supporter suggest that he's untouchable, ask yourself why. What has this man done in San Diego to make him above reproach? Do you really believe he is the reason the team turned around last year? Are we really getting the most out of the players we have? Enough with this "we have a lot to build on" crap. Esiason was right to suggest that we didn't have nearly the injuries of other teams. It's not like our guys will stay young forever. Each opportunity needs to be treated like it is the last one you'll see for a long time. We need to start taking winning seriously or else it really will be.

-RLW

TJ21
01-10-2006, 04:49 PM
Why is it that you bolded all the anti-Brees nonsense... :rolleyes:

LarryAW
01-10-2006, 06:58 PM
Why is it that you bolded all the anti-Brees nonsense... :rolleyes:

I guess being an All-Pro doesn't mean anything. Thiesman said he thought Brees was one of the top 5 quarterbacks in the NFL. He knows more about QBs than most people do.

drangus
01-10-2006, 10:14 PM
Why is it that you bolded all the anti-Brees nonsense... :rolleyes:

did you read all the bolded stuff? I also bolded the possible return of godfrey--and why wouldn't I bold the Brees stuff--anything to do with Brees is of upmost importance to this team-wouldn't you agree?

Fouts2Chandler
01-10-2006, 10:19 PM
Why is it that you bolded all the anti-Brees nonsense... :rolleyes:

LOL. Do you really have to ask why? He's my comedy relief with all the shots he tries to take at Drew. I should do another post like I did before with all his comments focusing specifically on Brees. You should check out Nospin's Drangus Draft Record on here too...hilarious.

Da_Cha-gers
01-12-2006, 05:47 PM
Doctor says Carson Palmer's injury 'devastating'

CINCINNATI - Associated Press(AP) - Carson Palmer's knee injury was "devastating and potentially career-ending," involving numerous ligament tears, a shredded ligament, damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap, his surgeon said Thursday.

The Cincinnati Bengals quarterback tore ligaments in his left knee when he was hit by Pittsburgh's Kimo von Oelhoffen on his first pass during the Steelers' 31-17 playoff victory Sunday.

The team announced that he had torn the anterior cruciate and medial collateral ligaments. The damage was much more extensive and severe, but Dr. Lonnie Paulos said surgery went well and Palmer could be back for the start of the season.

Palmer had surgery Tuesday in Houston. Doctors used grafts from other parts of his body and donated tissue to fix the damage during an operation that lasted more than two hours. Palmer headed back to California on Thursday to do his rehabilitation

"It's not just like it was a torn ACL," Paulos said Thursday, in a phone interview from Houston. "It's a magnitude more difficult to recover from and repair. It can and has ended careers, without a doubt.

"However, I feel very comfortable with Carson as an athlete and the heart that he's got. In the end, that's the bottom line. I can see the look in his eye already. He's ready to get going."

Paulos, an orthopedic surgeon who has worked with the U.S. Ski Team since 1983, replaced the anterior cruciate ligament, which runs through the middle of the knee and provides stability. He said the medial collateral ligament, which runs along the side of the knee, was damaged "real bad."

"On a scale of 1 to 3, it was a 4," he said. "It was off the chart. It was pretty badly damaged - shredded is the better term."

The kneecap dislocated when Palmer was hit, damaging tissue around it. There also was some cartilage damage, he said.

Paulos was able to repair the knee without removing pieces of cartilage or soft tissue, a good sign.

"The things that were torn could be repaired," he said. "They were not torn beyond repair. So he's got all his parts in there, which is good. We're optimistic, actually."

If rehabilitation goes well, Palmer could be running in a couple of months and might be able to play in the first regular season game, Paulos said. The 2006 schedule hasn't been set.

Palmer has worn a protective brace on the left knee since he sprained it near the end of the 2004 season. The knee bowed inward on von Oelhoffen's hit even though Palmer was wearing the brace,

"The brace didn't function well in this environment and should have done better than it did, frankly," Paulos said.

The plan is for Palmer to wear more substantial braces on both knees when he returns.

"No brace is perfect," Paulos said. "No brace can prevent every injury, but they do help."

Paulos saw the replay of the injury and wasn't surprised at the extent of the damage it caused. Palmer has absolved von Oelhoffen, saying he didn't think the lineman was trying to hurt him. The lineman said he was trying to sack Palmer, not injure him. He wasn't penalized for the hit.

Palmer made the Pro Bowl in only his second season as a starter, throwing an NFL-leading 32 touchdown passes. The club extended his contract through the 2014 season.

Jon Kitna, who has been Palmer's backup and mentor the last two years, can become a free agent. Palmer's injury will force the Bengals to make sure they have another reliable quarterback on board.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5240874

bolts22
01-12-2006, 06:45 PM
Brees? top 5 QB in the league? I'd say he's close.

Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Brett Favre
Donavon McNabb
Carson Palmer

give him a toss up with Big Ben.

Shamrock
01-13-2006, 04:02 AM
I might be the only one here who likes this .......

Football: The San Antonio ... Chargers? (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/nfl/stories/MYSA011306.1D.FBNsaints.chargers.1d1f3b72.html)


Web Posted: 01/13/2006 12:06 AM CST
Tom Orsborn
Express-News Staff Writer

Mayor Phil Hardberger said Thursday that he sees no prospect of New Orleans Saints games being played in the Alamodome this fall but added he "would not be surprised" if another NFL franchise — possibly the San Diego Chargers — inquires about relocating to San Antonio.

"I think the fact that we were able to fill the stadium and get corporate sponsors was noticed by a lot of people," said Hardberger, referring to the city's support for the three Saints games the Alamodome hosted this season. "It's been well documented the Chargers are not overly satisfied with their situation, so it's really a matter of cognitive intuition that, well, we've got something (the Alamodome), and we want a team, and the Chargers aren't too happy (in San Diego). That's where my thinking is."

Hardberger's comments came one day after NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue and Saints owner Tom Benson made a long-term commitment to Louisiana that includes the team playing a full schedule at the Louisiana Superdome next season.

The announcement ended speculation the Saints would play a game or two in San Antonio, a notion Tagliabue fueled during a visit here Dec.30 by declining to rule out the possibility.

"I'm actually kind of glad to get some definition on that because we are holding off on some events and usage of the Alamodome," Hardberger said. "I'm willing to accept there won't be any professional football there in 2006, so let's go ahead and rent it out to everyone else."

Still, Hardberger said he has not given up on the Saints relocating to San Antonio permanently. The Saints are contractually bound to play in Louisiana through the 2010 season, but an out clause in the recently amended agreement between the state of Louisiana and the Saints allows the team to leave after next season.

Hurricane Katrina forced the Saints to spend four months in San Antonio. During that period, Benson flirted with relocation.

"Many things will change between now and the end of 2006," Hardberger said. "I'm not speaking for Benson, but I am still hopeful."

Hardberger is also hopeful another NFL franchise will come calling soon.

San Diego's fiscal and political uncertainty has prevented the Chargers from finding development partners for a new stadium and an adjacent residential and commercial project, according to the San Diego Union-Tribune.

As a result, the team says it cannot meet a Feb.8 deadline to put a measure seeking approval for the stadium complex on the city's November ballot.

"I have followed those events with interest, but there has been no contact" between city officials and the Chargers, Hardberger said. "But that's as of today. It wouldn't surprise me if there weren't some conversation in 2006 with the Chargers."

If that is the case, the talks would need to be held secretly. Under terms of their lease agreement with the city of San Diego, the Chargers cannot explore relocation until Jan.1, 2007 and would be not be able to leave San Diego until after the 2008 season.

But city leaders are confident the Chargers are already exploring San Antonio as a relocation option, especially after the Saints averaged 62,666 fans for their Alamodome schedule.

"We have shown the entire nation this city has the financial wherewithal, the fan base and the excitement to sustain a team," City Councilman Richard Perez said.

Chargers spokesman Mark Fabiani could not be reached for comment.

Meanwhile, the Alamodome is free to fill its fall schedule. Until this week, Alamodome director Mike Abington had been holding dates for the Saints. But with the Saints committed to New Orleans, Abington said he hopes to attract more international soccer matches and renew relationships with school districts eager to play football games on the Alamodome's state-of-the-art turf.

"I think Mike Abington and his staff have done a good job finding tenants," Hardberger said. "The Alamodome is used more than people realize. But they were hindered a little bit by the flirtation with the Saints because we tried to keep it open as much as we could. From a financial standpoint, we will probably make more money not having (the Saints) here."

The Saints paid the city a little more than $1.4million for the three games, Abington said.

"We have been fully paid by the Saints for all expenses and rent," Abington said. "We didn't make any money per se, but we certainly didn't lose any. In that regard, our community won."

riverhead
01-13-2006, 04:49 AM
Wow Shammy. That is some article.

ballboy44
01-13-2006, 08:02 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.

phillychargerfan
01-13-2006, 08:15 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.

Fat, Drunk and stupid is no way to go thru life son......

SDBoltz
01-13-2006, 08:26 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.

WOW Where did that come from? You can be tarred and feathered in SD for talking like that. ;)

drangus
01-13-2006, 09:30 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.

the days of the hershel walker type trades are over--this will never happen, not even in a parrallel universe

SDBOLTZSD
01-13-2006, 09:57 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.

Trade L.T? Dude your smoking some good stuff.

BigThunder
01-13-2006, 10:01 AM
WOW Where did that come from? You can be tarred and feathered in SD for talking like that. ;)

Tarred and feathered....That's friggen hilarious!!!

BigChargerFan
01-13-2006, 10:07 AM
TRADE LT!!! That's right, you heard me. I propose trading LT to the Houston Texans, for Andre Johnson and the #1 Pick. Andre Johnson could have the most potential of any wide reciever in the game, he just needs a QB who can get him the ball. Then I wonder who we would take with the #1 pick. I feel that Reggie Bush is going to be something special. He's got everything LT's got, he's quicker, not to mention he can line up as a wide reciever and produce just as well. Bush hasn't proven himself at the NFL level, which is why the Texans would go for the trade. They would be aquiring LT and then able to deal off Dominick Davis for a wide reciever or whatever else they desire. It would give us that #1 deep threat that we've been lacking, not to mention open some more money on our payroll to build up our secondary. It's the right thing to do. It's a sacrafice we must be willing to make to strengthen the team and take it to the next level. Something must be done or we'll be chatting about how great LT is, while we watch the playoffs from home again next year.



People fail to realize that Tomlinson is a good 25lbs heavier than Bush. And LT gets knocked around in the NFL. Its going to be tough on Bush, period. Its like watching Sproles get hit, it makes me cringe.

theiceweasel
01-13-2006, 10:11 AM
People fail to realize that Tomlinson is a good 25lbs heavier than Bush. And LT gets knocked around in the NFL. Its going to be tough on Bush, period. Its like watching Sproles get hit, it makes me cringe.

Yes, finally someone else who sees things the way I do. Bush MUST bulk up to survive in the NFL.

And you're right about Sproles, his fumble against Miami was bound to happen with the hits he takes on returns.

ballboy44
01-13-2006, 10:22 AM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

DA BOLT FAN
01-13-2006, 10:31 AM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

You might want to quit smokin'. When you come down from your high, think about what you just posted. This team only NEEDS 2 more players and we're complete. I trust in AJ that he will find us a good LT and FS. Trading away LT would be a huge mistake.

SDBoltz
01-13-2006, 10:34 AM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.
Crack kills!

BigThunder
01-13-2006, 01:30 PM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

I think you might be being affected by the chem-trails.

mtxsound
01-13-2006, 01:37 PM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

LT is the thing that this franchis is basically built around. There are other great players, but getting rid of him would set us back. I think you may want to get re-evaluated.

drangus
01-13-2006, 02:40 PM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

what on earth gave you the idea that the texans swould give us the #1 pick for LT to begin with? if we trade LT right now you can kiss all the cap room we have left goodbye, and that includes any attempt to sign Drew Brees--two of the best backs in the league last year E james and S Alexander didn't get any bites on a #2 pick in last years draft--to us he is worth more than that and nobody wants to trade for the highest paid RB in the league--especially when they can get bush for 1/2 the price

sdjase
01-13-2006, 02:42 PM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.


Jesus. Is this for real?

yodafro
01-14-2006, 08:30 AM
Ballboy is definately smoking something...

LT, a bargaining chip? In bizarro world maybe. Not in this one.
If the Chargers traded LT they might as well kiss all their season ticket holders goodbye.

LT is the Chargers. He defines our team. Losing him would be devastating.
I don't care how good Bush "might be". What kind of message would that be sending to the rest of the team?

LightningStorm
01-14-2006, 09:16 AM
Thats the promblem with this board to many little kids playing madden to much Lt is young still and is top three backs in the league hey lets trade him good idea we are missing a few parts to make a serious run you dont deal the best player

Chargeroo
01-14-2006, 10:13 AM
Levy doesn't rule self out for coaching job

NFL.com wire reports ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. (Jan. 13, 2006) -- Coach Mike Mularkey's abrupt resignation came as a shock to the Buffalo Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/news/BUF). An even bigger surprise might be who refused to rule himself out as a candidate for the job -- Marv Levy.
A week after taking over as the Bills general manager, and despite owner Ralph Wilson insisting Levy wouldn't be considered to replace Mularkey, the 80-year-old Hall of Fame coach declined to say he wasn't interested.
"I really, sort of, don't even want to comment," Levy said Jan. 13 at a news conference. "I can't answer it because I want to talk the whole situation over. But we're going to address it swiftly."
Levy added that he didn't plan on being the coach when he accepted the GM's job, but said the situation has changed with Mularkey's unexpected departure.
His comments, however, contradicted what Wilson stated minutes earlier after announcing Mularkey's resignation. Asked whether Levy, who was standing off to the side, would be a candidate, Wilson said: "Absolutely not."
Wilson had a chance to restate his position after listening to Levy, but declined to do so.
What might seem curious to those hearing Levy contradict his boss is becoming par for the course for an operation that can't get its story straight since Wilson fired president/general manager Tom Donahoe last week.
Upon luring Levy out of retirement, Wilson and Levy couldn't agree on a title before eventually settling on general manager/football operations.
Now comes Mularkey's resignation, which came eight days after Wilson said Mularkey would return.
Something changed, Wilson said, when Mularkey first approached him Jan. 11 to inform the owner of his intention to resign.
The two met again Jan. 12 when Wilson accepted Mularkey's resignation.
"Of course I was completely surprised by his statement. He seemed very firm about it," Wilson said. "It's an abrupt setback. But we're going to move forward."
Wilson said Mularkey expressed concern about Bills fans who criticized him last year.
And despite Wilson's assurances, Mularkey's future beyond next season remained in doubt. Mularkey dismissed five assistants last week and his uncertain status made it difficult for the coach to hire experienced replacements.
Mularkey was 14-18 in two seasons and had three years left on his contract. The move leaves the Bills searching for their third coach in five years.
Not known is why Mularkey didn't raise his concerns after he met with Wilson twice last week.
"I did not reach this decision lightly," Mularkey said in a statement released by the Bills. "But after much thought, I have concluded that for my own personal reasons and in the best interests of my family, on balance, outweigh any future benefits that may accrue to me by continuing in this position."
Mularkey did not return a message left by The Associated Press.
Wilson and Levy declined to list any potential candidates or provide details as to the type of coach they're seeking.
Among the early front-runners -- besides, perhaps, Levy -- are Bills defensive coordinator Jerry Gray, who completed his fifth season with Buffalo; recently fired New Orleans coach Jim Haslett; Dick Jauron, Detroit's interim coach; and Chicago defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
Haslett has ties to the Bills, a former linebacker who played for the team from 1979-85.
Reached by telephone, Haslett said he's interested but has not yet been contacted.
"Obviously, I have great interest in the job, there's lot of good things about it," Haslett said. "I know the organization, I know Mr. Wilson. And it's a great place to live."
Mularkey's resignation, while unusual, is not unprecedented. Bobby Ross abruptly walked out as the Detroit Lions coach midway through the 2000 season. Former Bills coach Lou Saban twice quit on the team in the 1960s and early 1970s.
A former NFL tight end, Mularkey was a first-time head coach who joined Buffalo after serving as the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator. In his first season, the Bills rebounded from a 1-5 start to finish 9-7.
end of article
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So, can an eighty year old still coach in the NFL?

If Cam gets hired as a HC somewhere - should we consider adding Mularky or should we promote James Lofton?

yodafro
01-14-2006, 12:01 PM
Promote Lofton or bring Turner back.

Shamrock
01-15-2006, 10:45 AM
Report: Chargers not looking into S.A. (http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/nfl/stories/MYSA011506.14C.FBNchargers.hardberger.366b760.html )

Tom Orsborn
Express-News Staff Writer

The San Diego Chargers sent a letter to Mayor Phil Hardberger on Friday to inform him they are not pursuing relocation sites outside of San Diego, the city's newspaper reported.

The Chargers' announcement last week that they would not ask San Diego voters to approve a football stadium proposal in November led Hardberger to say Thursday he "wouldn't be surprised" if the team considered San Antonio as a relocation option.

But Chargers spokesman Mark Fabiani said the team has not analyzed the South Texas market.

"We're not exploring San Antonio, and we've had no contact with anyone in San Antonio," Fabiani told the San Diego Union-Tribune.

The Chargers on Monday abandoned the idea of putting a proposal on the November ballot for a stadium and commercial development at the 166-acre Qualcomm Stadium site.

Fabiani said the team abandoned the ballot proposal because it could not find a partner to share more than $800million in start-up costs for the project, which includes construction of a $450million stadium.

According to the Chargers' contract with the city of San Diego, it cannot discuss relocation with other cities until Jan.1, 2007. The lease also states the Chargers can leave Qualcomm Stadium after the 2008 season.

The Alamodome hosted three New Orleans Saints games this season after the Saints moved operations to San Antonio following Hurricane Katrina. The average attendance was 62,666.



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torsborn@express-news.net

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This article only shows that the Chargers are continuing to live up to their current agreement with the City of San Diego. But .....

You can bet that if the City of San Diego continues to sit on its hands, then after Jan 1, 2007 the Chargers will begin discussing with other cities in SD County and places such as LA, Portland and San Antonio, TX.

BCBoltFan
01-15-2006, 10:50 AM
Now will you remove that nasty headline from your sig? :)

Shamrock
01-15-2006, 10:54 AM
Now will you remove that nasty headline from your sig? :)
No. I kind of like it .... :p

BCBoltFan
01-15-2006, 11:00 AM
No. I kind of like it .... :p
I bet you do! How far is your cow pasture from the stadium?

Shamrock
01-15-2006, 11:06 AM
I bet you do! How far is your cow pasture from the stadium?
25 miles from my cattle guard to the Alamodome.

SDynasty
01-15-2006, 04:12 PM
Promote Lofton or bring Turner back.

promote lofton for sure

ftwbolt
01-15-2006, 10:08 PM
January 15, 2006 --
Davis would hurt Chiefs by hiring Saunders
GOAL LINE STAND WOULDN'T the Raiders love a gift from their hated-rival Chiefs? It now appears Kansas City's Al Saunders has the best shot to take over for Norv Turner.
Saunders, the coordinator of the high-powered Chiefs offense, last Wednesday was the first to interview with Al Davis about Oakland's vacancy. He also was the Raiders' top choice two years ago before the Silver and Black eventually hired Turner. The reason Saunders stayed with Kansas City? According to sources close to Saunders, they promoted him to assistant head coach and promised him he would take over once Dick Vermeil retired.

Herman Edwards got Vermeil's job, which left Saunders holding the bag. At this point, he'd love nothing more than to land that top job and stick it to the Chiefs in the process. And Davis would love nothing more than a new head coach with an anti-Chiefs chip on his shoulder. Sounds like a match made in Black Hole heaven.

"It's a great fit from all perspectives," the source told The Post. "The job appeals even more so to Saunders because he can get back at the Chiefs. He really got screwed in Kansas City. He has to want revenge. Plus it's not like there's no offensive talent there."

Another benefit to Oakland of Saunders taking the job is that he'd likely have no problem leaving defensive coordinator Rob Ryan and his defensive staff in place for at least another year. Raider defenders have lobbied the front office to leave well enough alone in the coaching ranks after making defensive strides last season.

As a result, Davis, who's notoriously slow in making coaching decisions, might act quicker than usual in this case.

LIONIZING GRIMM

If the Steelers season ends in Indianapolis today, it could turn out to be good news for Russ Grimm. Pittsburgh's assistant head coach/offensive line is believed to be Matt Millen's top choice to run the Lions. Millen is looking for a disciplinarian who can motivate his players to raise their level of play.

Millen and Grimm played together in Washington and Grimm is said to have learned a lot about offense during his playing days under head coach Joe Gibbs and offensive line coach Joe Bugel.

HASLETT HOMECOMING?

With Mike Mularkey surprisingly quitting on the Bills, it appears the leading candidate to replace him is former Saints coach Jim Haslett. Haslett, who has also interviewed with the Jets and Lions, played linebacker for the Bills, and was voted to the Pro Bowl in 1980 and 1981. Mike Sherman and Dick Jauron also will receive strong consideration upstate.

KUBIAK KIDS

The Texans will hire Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak to run their show when the Broncos' season ends, according to the Houston Chronicle.

Kubiak, who played college ball at Texas A&M, has turned down interview requests during the last few years because he thought he wasn't ready. But, according to sources, he now believes he's equipped to take that next step.

The Texans, holders of the draft's top pick - have been asking prospective coaching candidates to break down game film of USC running back Reggie Bush, whom many expect to be the top overall pick.

RAMS AT SQUARE ONE

The Rams are still reeling from Gregg Williams' decision to stay in Washington. The Redskins assistant head coach/defense was at the top of St. Louis' wish list. Now the Rams have no fewer than 10 candidates in mind to replace Mike Martz, including former Giants head coach Jim Fassel and current Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis.

CALLIN' COTTRELL

The Chargers already have their backup plan in place. If defensive coordinator Wade Phillips gets a head-coaching job this year, look for former Bills, Jets and Vikings defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell to replace him. Cottrell has extensive experience coaching the 3-4 defensive scheme.

YOUNGPURPLE PEOPLE

The Vikings have taken the term youth movement to another level. After acting extremely quickly to sign former Eagles offensive coordinator Brad Childress as their head coach, the 49-year-old Childress named a pair of 30-something coordinators to help run the Vikings vessel.

The Vikes have already taken some criticism for naming 33-year-old Mike Tomlin (former Bucs DBs coach) as their defensive coordinator and 36-year-old Darrell Bevell (former Packers QBs coach) to run the offense, especially considering there are expected to be drastic changes on both sides of the ball. Bevell plans to install more of a West Coast offense, while Tomlin will implement the famous Tampa Cover-2 defense.

Childress was the first coach hired this offseason and basically had the Vikes at hello. He was the first of four candidates interviewed by Minnesota (Cottrell, Saunders, Jim Caldwell), but had the job the second he arrived.

NINER LB SET TO FLEE

It sure looks like the end of the road for linebacker Julian Peterson in San Francisco. The Post is hearing that the Niners will likely make him a representative offer, but that it won't even come close to the $15.5 million bonus that was part of the six-year, $37.8 million offer that Peterson turned down in 2004.

As for San Francisco franchising Peterson for a third consecutive year, which would cost the Niners at least $8.75 million on a one-year deal, a San Fran source said, "it'll never happen."

The source said that the club would likely allow him to walk away and get nothing in return.

I will bet that Haslett get's the BILLS job.

And unless the Rams are interested in Cam as their HC, he should be on the BOLTS sidelines again next season. Hope Hope !

How good would this guy look in a BOLTS Uni, playing along side Merriman

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/14/AR2006011401183.html

Arrington Farewell?

It was not lost on linebacker LaVar Arrington that he may have played his final game with the Redskins.

Arrington was credited with two tackles, and though he was not on the official stat sheet, he was in on the tackle that knocked Seattle running back Shaun Alexander out of the game with a concussion. Arrington did not want to discuss his future except to say it was his hope that the club would bring him back.

"I'm not going to answer any questions about the future. It's not time for that," Arrington said. "I think this team is heading in the right direction. I think it has big things in front of it and I hope I'm going to be a part of it."

Arrington endured perhaps the most difficult year of his career. He was healthy to start the season but was largely benched for the first quarter of the season. When he did play, he did not play on third down, though he is best known as a pass-rushing linebacker.

The financial case against Arrington most likely is a daunting one. Arrington will count about $12 million against the salary cap and is due a $6.5 million roster bonus if he is on the roster July 1.

ftwbolt
01-15-2006, 10:26 PM
Houston mulling Young over Bush

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/col/story/382983p-325131c.html

Vince Young has put his hometown Houston Texans in a difficult position: How can they not take him with the first pick in the draft after he won the national championship?
This was supposed to be easy for the Texans. They finished 2-14, earning the No.1 pick as the winner of what was supposed to be the Reggie Bush Derby - he's a once-a-decade player who has been compared to Gale Sayers and Tony Dorsett. But Young's spectacular Rose Bowl and decision to skip his senior year at Texas have made things much more complicated.

"We have a lot of good options," GM Charley Casserly said.

Here's what it comes down to for the Texans: Would they rather have David Carr and Bush; or Young and Domanick Davis coming off arthroscopic knee surgery and the No. 1 pick they can get by trading Carr.

Our choice: Bring in Bush to go with Carr and WR Andre Johnson, then draft the best remaining offensive tackle at the top of the second round to keep Carr on his feet and you just might have an explosive offense.

Carr, the top pick in 2002, is just 16-43, but before Young entered the draft, the Texans planned to exercise his $8 million option bonus to trigger three more years on his contract. Carr has been a disappointment, but it's not all his fault - he's been sacked 208 times in four years. He has a lot of talent and will get better coaching when the Texans officially announce Gary Kubiak, the Broncos' offensive coordinator, as their new head coach. Kubiak, like Young many years later, was a Houston high school football star.

When Young had 467 yards of offense (267 passing, 200 rushing) in the Rose Bowl and five days later announced he was declaring for the draft, Texans fans forgot about Bush. They want Young.

Now there is incredible pressure on the Texans to take the hometown kid, who grew up a few miles from Reliant Stadium. "I have no choice over that," Young said. "It would be wonderful to play at home. Whatever team decides to pick me, I'm going to go in there and work."

If Young were not from Houston, the Texans definitely would take Bush. But if they don't take him, it could be a public relations nightmare for a team that can't afford it. Still, you can't let the fans make the pick. Young is never going to be able to run in the NFL like he did at Texas. The linebackers are too big and fast and it's not healthy to keep taking off. He's still a work in progress as a quarterback with a sidearm delivery. He played predominantly out of the shotgun. His upside, of course, is that he's big, has a strong arm and is a great leader. He could be a dynamic NFL quarterback and save the local franchise.

Young, Bush and Matt Leinart will be the first three picks in one of the most spectacular top-of-the-order drafts ever. Of course, the Jets have the fourth pick with little chance of moving up for Bush no matter how this plays out. They are likely not interested in either QB.

Here are some possible scenarios:


The Texans draft Bush. The Saints then would take Young or Leinart. The Titans would be happy with either QB: Offensive coordinator Norm Chow coached Leinart at USC and Titans QB Steve McNair is Young's mentor. Keep in mind Kubiak is coming from Denver, which plugs any running back into its system and gets 1,000 yards out of him. That could keep Kubiak away from Bush.

The Texans take Young and trade Carr. They could either franchise Carr to keep his rights for a trade or exercise the option and pay the $8 million. The option triggers a three-year, $16 million contract, which would be attractive to a team looking for a starting quarterback. He would bring back a first-round pick. One rumor has the Dolphins trading Ricky Williams and their first-round pick (No.16), to Houston for Carr.

The Texans draft Young, exercise the option on Carr and let Young learn for one year behind him. That's not likely because they would have too much money tied up in one position and have the potential for an explosive QB controversy.

Trade the pick: Can you imagine the Texans passing on Young and Bush? If that happens, they might as well follow the Oilers and move to Tennessee.

Originally published on January 15, 2006

SD_Connection
01-15-2006, 11:52 PM
Houston mulling Young over Bush

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/col/story/382983p-325131c.html

Vince Young has put his hometown Houston Texans in a difficult position: How can they not take him with the first pick in the draft after he won the national championship?
This was supposed to be easy for the Texans. They finished 2-14, earning the No.1 pick as the winner of what was supposed to be the Reggie Bush Derby - he's a once-a-decade player who has been compared to Gale Sayers and Tony Dorsett. But Young's spectacular Rose Bowl and decision to skip his senior year at Texas have made things much more complicated.

"We have a lot of good options," GM Charley Casserly said.

Here's what it comes down to for the Texans: Would they rather have David Carr and Bush; or Young and Domanick Davis coming off arthroscopic knee surgery and the No. 1 pick they can get by trading Carr.

Our choice: Bring in Bush to go with Carr and WR Andre Johnson, then draft the best remaining offensive tackle at the top of the second round to keep Carr on his feet and you just might have an explosive offense.

Carr, the top pick in 2002, is just 16-43, but before Young entered the draft, the Texans planned to exercise his $8 million option bonus to trigger three more years on his contract. Carr has been a disappointment, but it's not all his fault - he's been sacked 208 times in four years. He has a lot of talent and will get better coaching when the Texans officially announce Gary Kubiak, the Broncos' offensive coordinator, as their new head coach. Kubiak, like Young many years later, was a Houston high school football star.

When Young had 467 yards of offense (267 passing, 200 rushing) in the Rose Bowl and five days later announced he was declaring for the draft, Texans fans forgot about Bush. They want Young.

Now there is incredible pressure on the Texans to take the hometown kid, who grew up a few miles from Reliant Stadium. "I have no choice over that," Young said. "It would be wonderful to play at home. Whatever team decides to pick me, I'm going to go in there and work."

If Young were not from Houston, the Texans definitely would take Bush. But if they don't take him, it could be a public relations nightmare for a team that can't afford it. Still, you can't let the fans make the pick. Young is never going to be able to run in the NFL like he did at Texas. The linebackers are too big and fast and it's not healthy to keep taking off. He's still a work in progress as a quarterback with a sidearm delivery. He played predominantly out of the shotgun. His upside, of course, is that he's big, has a strong arm and is a great leader. He could be a dynamic NFL quarterback and save the local franchise.

Young, Bush and Matt Leinart will be the first three picks in one of the most spectacular top-of-the-order drafts ever. Of course, the Jets have the fourth pick with little chance of moving up for Bush no matter how this plays out. They are likely not interested in either QB.

Here are some possible scenarios:


The Texans draft Bush. The Saints then would take Young or Leinart. The Titans would be happy with either QB: Offensive coordinator Norm Chow coached Leinart at USC and Titans QB Steve McNair is Young's mentor. Keep in mind Kubiak is coming from Denver, which plugs any running back into its system and gets 1,000 yards out of him. That could keep Kubiak away from Bush.

The Texans take Young and trade Carr. They could either franchise Carr to keep his rights for a trade or exercise the option and pay the $8 million. The option triggers a three-year, $16 million contract, which would be attractive to a team looking for a starting quarterback. He would bring back a first-round pick. One rumor has the Dolphins trading Ricky Williams and their first-round pick (No.16), to Houston for Carr.

The Texans draft Young, exercise the option on Carr and let Young learn for one year behind him. That's not likely because they would have too much money tied up in one position and have the potential for an explosive QB controversy.

Trade the pick: Can you imagine the Texans passing on Young and Bush? If that happens, they might as well follow the Oilers and move to Tennessee.

Originally published on January 15, 2006

hmm very interesting

rslevy0421
01-16-2006, 08:56 AM
I may be smoking some good stuff that sends me to my own little parrallel universe... Your one of those star treky people huh?.., only because I have nothing better to do with my time. I don't know about all of you, but I'd rather be chearing for our boys this weekend, instead of wishing Alexander would just keep running, right off the face of the planet. But guess what... I can't chear. We're not playing, and nothing is going to change unless actions are taken. Are we going to draft a superhero with our #19 pick in the upcomming draft? I think not, and I'd rather have the #1 pick. That's for sure. Changes need to be made... bottom line. LT is our best barganing chip, and alot of improvments can be made by trading a player of that caliber. If everyone would actually think about what's best for the team instead of jumping on the "LT is god" bandwagon, we might actually make the playoffs next year.

LT is just as much to blame for not going to the playoffs as Brees. I don't think the Bolts should trade him, but LT didn't come through when we really needed him. People will blame the O-Line and injury, but he just didn't look the same as he used to down the stretch. I love LT and he'll be a Charger for life, but it pisses me off that people never critisize him no matter what he does, yet the same people are all over Brees the second he even passes gas.

Shamrock
01-16-2006, 10:35 AM
Rams trim list to 3 candidates (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/rams/story/E734C5B040892FEF862570F8001C83DC?OpenDocument)

CHICAGO — Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan and San Diego offensive coordinator Cam Cameron are among three finalists for the Rams' head-coaching job, league sources told the Post-Dispatch on Sunday night.

It's almost a certainty that Chicago defensive coordinator Ron Rivera will be the third. The Bears were eliminated from the playoffs, 29-21, by Carolina on Sunday evening. It appears to be only a matter of logistics and scheduling to get Rivera in for a second interview this week.

The second round of interviews will take place quickly, and the Rams are expected to have the new coach in place by the end of the week. With Pittsburgh's upset victory Sunday over Indianapolis in the AFC divisional round, the Rams no longer are willing to wait on Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt.

So unless something unexpected happens in the second round of interviews, Linehan, Cameron or Rivera will succeed Mike Martz as head coach in St. Louis. Based on the first round of interviews, Linehan appears to be the front-runner, but Rivera isn't thought to be far behind, even though the Chicago defense had an off day against the Panthers, giving up 434 yards and 29 points.

...

Cameron is something of a wild card. He was the last of seven candidates interviewed by the Rams, and wasn't thought to be on Shaw's original list.

Chargeroo
01-16-2006, 09:39 PM
Cam Cameron (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1716328) had a second interview with the St. Louis Rams (http://rams.scout.com/) on Monday and is a frontrunner for the job. In the lone interview that Cameron was able to conduct this year with the media – head coach Marty Schottenheimer (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1776527) does not allow his assistants to interview – the former Indiana head coach came across as thoughtful and eloquent, saying all the right things.
The Chargers ended the year as the number five scoring offense in the league, and were in the top three until the final two weeks of the season when they managed just 14 points.
A year ago, the Chargers placed third in the NFL in scoring. The rushing offense has been a top ten entity each of the last two years.
Cameron has competition in landing the Rams job. St. Louis has interviewed Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan and Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
The Rams would like to have their head coach in place by the end of the week to prepare for the Senior Bowl. Cameron, who was the last candidate to interview appears to have won a few people over with his confidence.
"You are always adjusting and evolving," Cameron said in his lone interview.
And that evolution may see him as a head coach in the NFL in short order

sdjase
01-16-2006, 09:45 PM
Cam Cameron (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1716328) had a second interview with the St. Louis Rams (http://rams.scout.com/) on Monday and is a frontrunner for the job. In the lone interview that Cameron was able to conduct this year with the media – head coach Marty Schottenheimer (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1776527) does not allow his assistants to interview – the former Indiana head coach came across as thoughtful and eloquent, saying all the right things.
The Chargers ended the year as the number five scoring offense in the league, and were in the top three until the final two weeks of the season when they managed just 14 points.
A year ago, the Chargers placed third in the NFL in scoring. The rushing offense has been a top ten entity each of the last two years.
Cameron has competition in landing the Rams job. St. Louis has interviewed Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan and Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
The Rams would like to have their head coach in place by the end of the week to prepare for the Senior Bowl. Cameron, who was the last candidate to interview appears to have won a few people over with his confidence.
"You are always adjusting and evolving," Cameron said in his lone interview.
And that evolution may see him as a head coach in the NFL in short order


Wow. I really thought Rivera was a surefire pick for this one.

Too bad if we lose Cam.

ballboy44
01-17-2006, 09:46 AM
LT is just as much to blame for not going to the playoffs as Brees. I don't think the Bolts should trade him, but LT didn't come through when we really needed him. People will blame the O-Line and injury, but he just didn't look the same as he used to down the stretch. I love LT and he'll be a Charger for life, but it pisses me off that people never critisize him no matter what he does, yet the same people are all over Brees the second he even passes gas.


You can't play both sides of this situation girly man. Choose a side. If LT is just as much to blame then we should trade him and his over-rated talent out of here to improve our team in other positions. As for Brees, I never questioned his ability. I think he will be great when he gets a #1 reciever to throw the ball too. But in order to get that #1 reciever..... You guessed it. TRADE LT!!! Don't try to please others with this "I love LT and he'll be a charger for life" Garbage. Your just jumping on the bandwagon as well. Changes must be made. Drastic changes. We're going nowhere fast and people like you are who's to blame.

BoltsAFCWest#1
01-17-2006, 10:05 AM
I think maybe you're using LT's post-injury stats to judge his value to the team. There's no comparison to what LT can do when healthy as to what he does with a cracked rib. Do you know how much that injury hurts?

Injuries are a fact of the NFL business. Since this particular injury will completely heal and has nothing to do with LT's legs, it would probably be unwise to trade him based on his poor performance with it.

rslevy0421
01-17-2006, 10:16 AM
I think maybe you're using LT's post-injury stats to judge his value to the team. There's no comparison to what LT can do when healthy as to what he does with a cracked rib. Do you know how much that injury hurts?

Injuries are a fact of the NFL business. Since this particular injury will completely heal and has nothing to do with LT's legs, it would probably be unwise to trade him based on his poor performance with it.

Although I disagree with ballgirl44 about trading LT, he had plenty of non-factor or bad games before AND after his injury this season (see Cowboys, Broncos (1st time), Eagles, Steelers, etc.). All in all, he had a very inconsistent season all the way through.

sdjase
01-17-2006, 10:22 AM
This whole discussion about trading LT is just stupid.

Really stupid.

Now, let's load back up the short-bus, send it on its way and move on to something relevant.

BCBoltFan
01-17-2006, 10:48 AM
Associated Press

1/17/2006 12:18:12 PM

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. (AP) - Patriots defensive co-ordinator Eric Mangini was hired as New York Jets coach Tuesday, becoming the youngest head coach in the NFL.

The Jets called an afternoon news conference in which they said they will introduce Mangini as their coach.

Mangini, a disciple of Bill Belichick, turns 35 Thursday. He replaces Herman Edwards, who left for Kansas City after five seasons.

Mangini accepted an offer from the Jets on Monday night, a few hours after the team interviewed former Vikings coach Mike Tice. But the deal wasn't completed until Tuesday morning. Terms of the deal weren't known but it is believed he will get between $2 million and $2.5 million US per year over five years.

He emerged as the leading candidate for the Jets last week. Though he is young and has been a co-ordinator for one season, he is regarded as one of the brightest defensive minds in the game after spending 10 of his 11 seasons in the NFL working under Belichick.

The Jets hope some of the Belichick genius rubbed off on his protege.

"He definitely has the ability to be a great coach in this league," Patriots defensive end Richard Seymour said after New England was eliminated from the playoffs. "He has a lot of tools that it takes. He's very poised. He's a smart guy. He understands defences and how to take things away from offences, so he'll probably have a lot of success in this league."

Mangini also has close ties to Jets assistant general manager Mike Tannenbaum and was an assistant with the Jets from 1997-99, working with Belichick in the secondary. Belichick has talked Mangini out of taking co-ordinator jobs in the past, but was unable to do the same this time.

In a strange twist, Belichick was the Jets coach for one day before changing his mind and bolting for New England in 2000. That connection didn't seem to bother New York and team owner Woody Johnson, who is desperate to gain on the Patriots in the AFC East.

With Mangini in, defensive co-ordinator Donnie Henderson, offensive co-ordinator Mike Heimerdinger and special teams co-ordinator Mike Westhoff would probably be out. All three interviewed for the head coaching job.

The Jets also spoke to three other candidates: former Saints coach Jim Haslett, former Rams interim coach Joe Vitt and Giants defensive co-ordinator Tim Lewis.

Edwards parted ways with the Jets in a messy split. Speculation for the better part of the season linked him to the Chiefs. Though Johnson told the team in November he wanted Edwards to stay, he made few comments publicly to squelch the rampant speculation the Chiefs wanted his coach.

The idea that Edwards would ask for an extension after going 4-12 may have rubbed some in the organization the wrong way, leaving them no choice but to let Edwards go. After several days of negotiating, the Jets received a fourth-round pick as compensation for Edwards from the Chiefs.

Mangini inherits a team that has its share of questions. That is the big reason why Edwards wanted an extension, because he anticipated it might take a few years to rebuild the team.

Quarterback Chad Pennington is coming off his second major shoulder injury. Though he vowed to be ready for the start of training camp, the Jets plan to bring in a veteran to compete for the starting job.

Another major question is whether veteran running back Curtis Martin will return.

Edwards planned to have Martin back, but Mangini might have different thoughts. The 32-year-old back is coming off knee surgery and might not be viable as a starter anymore. The Jets also need help at offensive line and receiver.

The defence should be the strength of the team, and could be even better with Mangini at the helm. But the Jets must make a decision on whether to put the franchise tag on defensive end John Abraham or sign him to a long-term contract.

ftwbolt
01-17-2006, 06:27 PM
Cam Cameron (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1716328) had a second interview with the St. Louis Rams (http://rams.scout.com/) on Monday and is a frontrunner for the job. In the lone interview that Cameron was able to conduct this year with the media – head coach Marty Schottenheimer (http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=102&p=8&c=1&nid=1776527) does not allow his assistants to interview – the former Indiana head coach came across as thoughtful and eloquent, saying all the right things.
The Chargers ended the year as the number five scoring offense in the league, and were in the top three until the final two weeks of the season when they managed just 14 points.
A year ago, the Chargers placed third in the NFL in scoring. The rushing offense has been a top ten entity each of the last two years.
Cameron has competition in landing the Rams job. St. Louis has interviewed Miami offensive coordinator Scott Linehan and Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera.
The Rams would like to have their head coach in place by the end of the week to prepare for the Senior Bowl. Cameron, who was the last candidate to interview appears to have won a few people over with his confidence.
"You are always adjusting and evolving," Cameron said in his lone interview.
And that evolution may see him as a head coach in the NFL in short order

I really hate to hear that ! :mad:

With at least 2 STUDS on the O-Line and Cam's Offensive mind, the Bolts are so close.

Thought Ron Rivera was the front runner in St Louis !

ftwbolt
01-17-2006, 06:42 PM
Payton, Carthon appear to have separated themselves from pack
Tuesday, January 17, 2006

http://www.nola.com/saints/t-p/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/1137481328176100.xml

By Mike Triplett
and Jimmy Smith%%par%%Staff writers
The Saints are leaning heavily toward offering their head coaching job to Sean Payton, according to league sources, and they likely will decide between Payton and Maurice Carthon within the next day or two.

Former Green Bay Packers coach Mike Sherman remains a viable candidate, but he appears to be a distant third choice.

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has elected not to speak with the media until the search process is over, but spokesman Greg Bensel said that no offer had been made as of Monday night, disputing a radio report to the contrary.

The team apparently is finished with interviews and now is evaluating the candidates and possibly negotiating a deal.

As expected from the outset of this coaching search, the Saints are focusing on long-time NFL assistants who have experienced success in the league and have worked for winning coaches.

Payton, the assistant head coach/quarterbacks coach for the Dallas Cowboys, has worked under Bill Parcells, Jim Fassel, Jon Gruden and Ray Rhodes.

Carthon, the offensive coordinator of the Cleveland Browns, spent most of his career playing and coaching under Parcells, also working alongside Bill Belichick, Romeo Crennel and Charlie Weis.

The Saints appear to be following the same thought process as most of the 10 teams in the NFL who are replacing head coaches this season -- opting for an up-and-coming NFL assistant rather than a former head coach.

In a year where few "hot names" have emerged leaguewide, Payton and Carthon have each received interest from at least two other NFL teams during this year's interview process.

Payton, 42, seems to have been the Saints' front-runner throughout their coaching search, which began two weeks ago Monday when the team fired Jim Haslett.

Payton has worked under Parcells only for the past three seasons -- a relationship that no doubt leaps off his résumé. But he began his NFL coaching career as a contemporary of Gruden and John Fox, both of whom remain close friends and sing his praises.

"Sean has what I call the 'it factor,' " said Fox, who served as the New York Giants' defensive coordinator while Payton was the Giants' offensive coordinator, going to a Super Bowl together in 2001. "He has the ability to get it done. He is competitive and is deserving of a head coaching position in this league.

"He is a smart guy and brings toughness. He can be hard on guys, yet get their respect at the same time."

Said Gruden, who was the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator while Payton was the quarterbacks coach in 1997: "Sean is not only a good friend, but an outstanding coach. His accomplishments speak for themselves."

Parcells, who would be in the best position to evaluate the merits of both Payton and Carthon, would prefer not to comment about his current or former assistants until after they are hired, according to a team spokesman.

Crennel and Fassel also were unavailable for comment Monday.

The most telling show of support for Payton may have been Parcells' decision to hand over his play-calling duties to him this season for the first time since Parcells was in New England.

Parcells and Payton have clashing styles -- with Payton a West Coast disciple who likes to get more creative and Parcells having more of a conservative run-first nature. But the two of them seemed to work well together.

Sometimes Payton is criticized for overthinking his game plans rather than paring it down.

"I've been around him a little while, and I have confidence in him," Parcells told the Fort Worth Star-Telegram earlier this year. "I got to watch him, though. He can get the virus."

In that same article, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones admitted that Parcells and Payton butt heads at times but credited Payton for lobbying for his ideas rather than being a "yes man."

"I like the way he works with Bill. He has thick skin," Jones said. "He has Bill's ear, and that's very impressive."

Ironically, the most negative event of Payton's coaching career was when he was stripped of his play-calling duties by Fassel in 2002, sparking a late-season turnaround for the Giants and eventually leading Payton to move on to the Cowboys' staff.

But Fassel speaks highly of Payton and told the Star-Telegram, "After the year was over, I wanted to give it back to him, but I wasn't really sure how the organization would feel about it. I never wanted him to leave. But I understand how he'd feel in those circumstances."

The Cowboys' passing offense has been more middle-of-the-pack than overwhelmingly successful. But Payton is credited for helping middle-of-the-pack quarterbacks like Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde and, especially, Drew Bledsoe to some of the best production of their careers.

Carthon is described as much more of a Parcells-like disciplinarian. He received compliments from Cleveland- and Dallas-area writers for instilling that discipline in his players, though he would not necessarily be considered a "players coach."

According to one writer, he may be better suited as a head coach than a position coach.

Carthon, who spent most of his coaching career as a running backs coach, served as offensive coordinator in Detroit and Dallas but called plays for the first time this year in Cleveland.

He received mixed reviews in that department. The Browns scored the fewest points in the NFL (just below the Saints), and both Crennel and Carthon were criticized for not getting rookie receiver Braylon Edwards and tailback Reuben Droughns involved early enough in the offense.

Still, Carthon's learning curve under Crennel, a first-time head coach himself, may have been just as valuable as the years he spent learning under Parcells.

Reportedly, one of the selling points when Crennel interviewed for the job in Cleveland was that Carthon likely would be his offensive coordinator, and the two of them showed good chemistry their first season.

ballboy44
01-18-2006, 08:15 AM
This whole discussion about trading LT is just stupid.

Really stupid.

Now, let's load back up the short-bus, send it on its way and move on to something relevant.


Well speaking of buses... Lets take a look at the playoff picture... Jerome Bettis "The Bus" and the Steelers are on their way to an AFC championship game. They have one of the most dominant running games in the league, yet no stand-out superstar running back. Bettis and Parker are both good running backs, but obviously not on the level of LT. Week after week, they pound the ball and the opposing team knows they're going to do so. Yet, they still succeed in doing so. Why? I'll tell you why. Roethlisberger had the 3rd best quarterback rating in the league, throwing the ball to Hines Ward. Now if you look at his stats for this past year, they're not all that impressive. Hines Ward was just barely better than McCardell. Yet he always poses a threat down field that opposing teams must always be aware of. Hines Ward could easily be the #1 reciever for the Chargers. The Chargers don't have that down field threat. Gates is a threat, but not deep down field. The one thing missing from the Chargers is that dangerous down field threatning, #1 reciever that other teams fear. If we had one, it would open the running game even more. I truely believe that if we could aquire a solid #1 wide out, and replace LT with any above average back, we would have a better, well-rounded offense, and we might actually play in the playoffs, instead of comming up with child-like football posts about loading up short-buses in our spare time.

The-Beast
01-18-2006, 08:48 AM
Well speaking of buses... Lets take a look at the playoff picture... Jerome Bettis "The Bus" and the Steelers are on their way to an AFC championship game. They have one of the most dominant running games in the league, yet no stand-out superstar running back. Bettis and Parker are both good running backs, but obviously not on the level of LT. Week after weekhuh whoever would of known a hall of fame running back isnt a superstar

BOLT_PRIDE
01-18-2006, 08:53 AM
huh whoever would of known a hall of fame running back isnt a superstar


Just what I was thinking. Im sure there are plenty of other ways of aquiring a good wide out with out trading LT. We are well below the salary cap and the money alone is going to make them wanna come to us

Chargeroo
01-18-2006, 09:35 AM
I can't imagine a quicker way to ruin the morale of the team than to trade away the best player on the team. Especially true in this case because he's such a nice guy and gets so much respect from the other players.

I do get your point - many teams have a good running game without have a "super star" RB. However, we happen to have a great RB and it would be much better for the team to try to get some better run blockers for LT, than it would be to trade him.

As for getting a number one WR, I think that was the idea when they took a very big and fast WR in the 2nd round. I'm guessing they expect big things from Vincent Jackson this year. Jackson has good speed, good hands and a big body to block out the D-backs. We need a bit of patience with him and when he turns into a #1 WR, our offense will have a four headed monster - QB/RB/TE/WR.

sdjase
01-18-2006, 09:39 AM
I can't imagine a quicker way to ruin the morale of the team than to trade away the best player on the team. Especially true in this case because he's such a nice guy and gets so much respect from the other players.

I do get your point - many teams have a good running game without have a "super star" RB. However, we happen to have a great RB and it would be much better for the team to try to get some better run blockers for LT, than it would be to trade him.

As for getting a number one WR, I think that was the idea when they took a very big and fast WR in the 2nd round. I'm guessing they expect big things from Vincent Jackson this year. Jackson has good speed, good hands and a big body to block out the D-backs. We need a bit of patience with him and when he turns into a #1 WR, our offense will have a four headed monster - QB/RB/TE/WR.

I agree.

You don't pull the centerpin out of a working machine nor do you remove the foundation from a sturdy building.

Although we might be able to get by without a "superstar RB," LT is the heart and soul of our offense. You take him out of the picture and all of the intangibles start to catch up with you in terms of defenses not respecting the run, double-teaming gates more, weaker screens, etc.

The whole thing would just change in so many subtle ways that would combine to create a weaker offense IMO.

ballboy44
01-18-2006, 10:30 AM
huh whoever would of known a hall of fame running back isnt a superstar

I am well aware that Bettis is headed for the hall of fame and that he deserves it. But can you honestly say that this season he is at his hall of fame level he was in years past? I think you know that answer to that question just as well as I.

SDBoltz
01-18-2006, 11:26 AM
I am well aware that Bettis is headed for the hall of fame and that he deserves it. But can you honestly say that this season he is at his hall of fame level he was in years past? I think you know that answer to that question just as well as I.

Wasnt the Bus on the sideline most of the year just kickin back? He had 110 carries for 368yds while Parker had 255 carries for 1202yds. I dont think that takes away from his ability or his level of play so I would say yes to your question but I dont think thats what you were thinking.

rslevy0421
01-18-2006, 03:30 PM
I think the ballgirl is on to something...however he seems too interested in cost reductions. Wait a minute, he couldn't cost reduce his way out of a paper bag. Way to carry the torch!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SillyBoltsFan
01-18-2006, 05:32 PM
AP NewsBreak: Lions nearing agreement with Marinelli, source says


ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Rod Marinelli was nearing an agreement with the Detroit Lions on Wednesday night to become their new head coach, a team source told The Associated Press.

The source, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the team had not made an announcement, said Marinelli was to leave the team's practice facility on Wednesday night, but stayed to negotiate his contract.

Marinelli spent the past 10 seasons in Tampa Bay as defensive line coach. His unit helped establish an NFL record with 69 straight games with at least one sack from 1999-03. He had the title of assistant head coach added in 2002.

He has not been a head coach at any level, but attracted interest from at least one other team with an opening this offseason. The Oakland Raiders interviewed Marinelli on Monday, then he traveled to suburban Detroit for a second interview with Lions president Matt Millen.

Former New Orleans Saints coach Jim Haslett said he was scheduled to travel from his home in Louisiana to Michigan on Wednesday night for a second interview. But on Wednesday evening, he told the AP he had not heard from the Lions about his travel arrangements or his prospects for the job.

Unlike Millen's first two coaching searches, he took his time and interviewed several candidates. Millen hired Marty Mornhinweg quickly in 2001, hoping Cleveland wouldn't hire him. Two years later, Millen hired Steve Mariucci with such haste that he was fined $200,000 by the NFL because he didn't follow the league's minority interview policy.

With Millen's players and coaches, the Lions are an NFL-worst 21-59 over the past five seasons -- since the former linebacker and TV analyst became an NFL executive for the first time.

Dick Jauron, who took over when Mariucci was fired in November, was one of many candidates Millen interviewed during a two-week process. Among the coaches Millen also interviewed were: Pittsburgh offensive line coach Russ Grimm; Denver offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak; Cleveland offensive coordinator Maurice Carthon, New York Giants defensive coordinator Tim Lewis and San Francisco assistant head coach Mike Singletary.

Marinelli's coaching career began in 1973 as an assistant at Rosemead (Calif.) High School. He was an assistant at Utah State from 1973-82, before moving on to California for nine seasons, Arizona State for three seasons and Southern California for one season.

He went to Tampa Bay in 1996 and was the defensive line coach for six seasons. The past four seasons, he also had the title of assistant head coach.

SillyBoltsFan
01-18-2006, 05:40 PM
Saban says team could consider Owens


Jeff Darlington, of the Palm Beach Post, reports Miami Dolphins head coach Nick Saban left the door open about his interest in acquiring Philadelphia Eagles WR Terrell Owens during the offseason. "I think we're interested in anybody who would make our team better," Saban said on ESPN Radio's The Dan Patrick Show. "Guys who have been proven playmakers in this league are all people we would be interested in." This marked the first time Saban spoke directly about Owens, since league rules prohibited Saban from commenting about acquiring another team's property. That changed when agent Drew Rosenhaus was granted permission by the Eagles to seek a trade for the wide receiver.

SillyBoltsFan
01-18-2006, 05:46 PM
This one from the Detroit Free Press:


FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER

Lions hire Marinelli as coach

Rod Marinelli has agreed to be the Lions’ next head coach, sources said Wednesday night.

Lions senior vice president of communications Bill Keenist said he could not confirm or deny the hiring of Marinelli. President Matt Millen and chief operating officer Tom Lewand were unavailable for comment and did not respond to phone messages.

But the Lions have called a news conference for 10 a.m. Thursday.

Marinelli, 56, was Tampa Bay’s assistant head coach/defensive line coach. He has never been an NFL coordinator, let alone an NFL head coach. But that’s partly because the Buccaneers denied him permission to explore opportunities as a defensive coordinator on four separate occasions. He is respected in coaching circles and known for his ability to teach and inspire.

When the Buccaneers won the Super Bowl during the 2002 season, their motto was “Pound the Rock,” meaning you keep pounding the rock until one day the rock breaks. They had it engraved on their championship rings. It was Marinelli who came up with the motto.

Marinelli interviewed for Oakland’s head coaching job Monday. He arrived Tuesday night in Detroit for his second interview with the Lions. He met with owner William Clay Ford on Wednesday and was scheduled to leave in the afternoon, but the Lions asked him to stay another day. He agreed to. They soon offered him the job, and he accepted.

The Lions told former New Orleans coach Jim Haslett on Tuesday night they would arrange to fly him to Detroit on Wednesday for a second interview and a meeting with Ford. But Marinelli made them change their plans. By 6:30 p.m., Haslett was still home in Louisiana and hadn’t heard from the Lions.

Chargeroo
01-18-2006, 05:57 PM
The Chargers signed LT to a new contract a little over a year ago. He received a bonus of $12.4 M. If the Chargers were crazy enough to trade him, the remaining portion of that bonus that hasn't yet been written off (around $10M) would be charged against this years salary cap. - Yet another reason not to trade your star RB.

truColorCharger
01-18-2006, 06:04 PM
The Chargers signed LT to a new contract a little over a year ago. He received a bonus of $12.4 M. If the Chargers were crazy enough to trade him, the remaining portion of that bonus that hasn't yet been written off (around $10M) would be charged against this years salary cap. - Yet another reason not to trade your star RB.
oh, very nice facts. somebody just shot down somebody else's areguement.

ftwbolt
01-18-2006, 07:39 PM
Funny how with all the HC opening's, and with the ones that have already been filled. That Steve Mariucci and Mike Martz have not been canidates for these jobs ! Can you say overrated !

Marv
01-18-2006, 08:07 PM
Hi all. I'm new to the boards here but I'm a lifetime Charger fan here in Illinois. I just found this and thought it might interest a few of you (reported by profootballtalk.com) - sorry if it's already been posted:
>>In response to our story regarding the possibility that the Bills are flirting with a blatant violation of the Rooney Rule by focusing on Dick Jauron before interviewing a minority candidate, an industry source tells us that the Bills likely will interview Chargers receivers coach James Lofton for the vacancy.
Lofton is a Hall of Fame wideout who played for four seasons with the Bills, appearing in three Super Bowls. He also played for the Packers, Raiders, Eagles, and Rams.

Lofton recently interviewed for the head coaching vacancy in Oakland.

A league source tells us that former Bills defensive coordinator Ted Cottrell was interviewed by phone. Although Cowboys owner Jerry Jones interviewed Denny Green by telephone three years ago at a time when everyone knew that the job was going to Bill Parcells, the league thereafter said that, moving forward, phone interviews are not sufficient.

We're also told that the Bills still plan to interview Jim Haslett at some point before making a decision. As we reported earlier on Wednesday, there are strengthening rumors in league circles that Dick Jauron will get the job.<<

I tend to think that this interview and his Raider interview are intended to position himself for future opportunities or a legitimate OC position this offseason (maybe he gets our OC spot if Cam leaves- I would prefer Martz). Either way it puts his name out there and he gets the interview experience as well.

Chargeroo
01-18-2006, 11:12 PM
Hi Marv, welcome to the board. Your article mentions Ted Cottrell. Word around here is that Marty wanted Ted for our DC if Wade got a HC job. It appears now that both Wade and Cam will be here another year. Also, Ted Cottrell was the choice of many of our posters back when they hired Marty.

JoeMcRugby
01-18-2006, 11:26 PM
I tend to think that this interview and his Raider interview are intended to position himself for future opportunities or a legitimate OC position this offseason (maybe he gets our OC spot if Cam leaves- I would prefer Martz). Either way it puts his name out there and he gets the interview experience as well.

Welcome to the boards as well, Marv!! :Beer:

As for your post, I agree with you 100%.

At this point of his coaching career, it would be hard to see James getting a head coaching gig in 2006.

However, as you pointed out, the interview experience will be huge in regard to James' coaching career in the future. Plus, adding a successful stint as a coordinator in the near future will, IMO, put him at the top of the head coaching list in the next few years.

ftwbolt
01-20-2006, 05:05 PM
Hi Marv, welcome to the board. Your article mentions Ted Cottrell. Word around here is that Marty wanted Ted for our DC if Wade got a HC job. It appears now that both Wade and Cam will be here another year. Also, Ted Cottrell was the choice of many of our posters back when they hired Marty.


I just heard on the NFL network by Adam Schefter, that the turds could be interested in interviewing Cam for their HC job. They have already talked to James Lofton.


Lofton interviews for Raiders job NFL.com wire reports

http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/OAK/9161531

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9177796

Two candidates expected to be brought to Oakland for interviews are Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt. Both coaches have been mentioned in connection to other openings that already have been filled -- Cameron in St. Louis, Whisenhunt in Green Bay.

But the Raiders are expected to ask the Chargers for permission to speak to Cameron, and they are expected to do the same with Whisenhunt once the Steelers' season ends.

There has been a lot of speculation in the Bay Area newspapers that Louisville coach Bobby Petrino is also a candidate for Oakland's head coaching job. He would fit the profile of what the Raiders are looking for, but the Raiders still seem a ways away from making any type of coaching decision.

SillyBoltsFan
01-20-2006, 07:42 PM
Various Coaching Rumours


(Jan. 20, 2006) -- Let's be clear on one thing. Al Saunders might have been Al Davis' first choice, but never once did the Raiders make the former Chiefs offensive coordinator an offer. Not one. Nor did they ever talk to his agent.

So it's hard to anoint Saunders as the Raiders' No. 1 candidate, as some speculated that he was, when no substantial talks took place between the two sides.

Could Bobby Petrino be a top candidate for the head job in Oakland?

Now that Saunders is off the market, and now that Rod Marinelli has accepted the Lions' head coaching job rather than waiting for an offer from the Raiders, Oakland is back at square one, sifting through the list of available candidates with an offensive background.

Two candidates expected to be brought to Oakland for interviews are Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron and Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt. Both coaches have been mentioned in connection to other openings that already have been filled -- Cameron in St. Louis, Whisenhunt in Green Bay.

But the Raiders are expected to ask the Chargers for permission to speak to Cameron, and they are expected to do the same with Whisenhunt once the Steelers' season ends.

There has been a lot of speculation in the Bay Area newspapers that Louisville coach Bobby Petrino is also a candidate for Oakland's head coaching job. He would fit the profile of what the Raiders are looking for, but the Raiders still seem a ways away from making any type of coaching decision.

THE OTHER PART OF THE DEAL

When the Redskins made Gregg Williams football's highest-paid defensive coordinator, they also made him a promise. The Redskins told Williams that they would go out and hire the best available offensive coordinator.

The one the Redskins viewed as the best was former Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders. It is the reason that Redskins officials used Daniel Snyder's private plane to fly to Kansas City to recruit Saunders to come to Washington, and why they made him football's highest-paid offensive coordinator.

Saunders was on the Redskins' radar from the time they redid Williams' deal. They almost were like a package deal, Williams and Saunders. Now Washington has two of football's highest-profile coordinators, proving that football is as much about CEOs as Xs and Os. Joe Gibbs is now the Redskins' CEO, and the two coordinators beneath him are like the Redskins' two head coaches.

NOW ON THE HEADSETS...

Even before losing Saunders to the Redskins, the Chiefs had promoted offensive line coach Mike Solari to offensive coordinator. Solari is viewed as a future head coaching candidate, but for now, he will concentrate on the Chiefs offense, and he will have help doing it.

Being that Solari has not called plays before, the Chiefs will have their quarterbacks coach, Terry Shea, assist him. Shea used to help call plays in Chicago. Now, Chiefs coach Herm Edwards believes the combination of Solari and Shea will make up for the absence of Saunders.

Other teams are not quite as convinced, but the Chiefs have two bright minds working to make their offense potent instead of one.

JOINING A RIVAL

The past two seasons, Bills head coach Mike Mularkey tried beating the Dolphins. Now, he might be trying to join them.

Mularkey was scheduled to spend Friday at the Dolphins training facility, meeting with Miami head coach Nick Saban. Hiring Mularkey would be a boon for both sides. The Dolphins would be getting one of the top available offensive minds, and Mularkey would be getting a job in which he would be, essentially, the offensive head coach.

Making it even more attractive for Mularkey is that he was born in Fort Lauderdale. So it would be a homecoming. And twice a year, he would get to take on the Bills.

Now the Dolphins are not expected to rush into a decision on their offensive coordinator. They also are likely to consider Mike Martz, Mike Sherman and Jim Fassel, each of whom is eminently qualified. But this will be the first of two massive offseason moves the Dolphins make. And their selection will tie into their next big move -- who the team brings in at quarterback.

WANTED

The most coveted coaching free agent is defensive coordinator Jim Bates. New Rams coach Scott Linehan has been hoping that Bates will join him in St. Louis, and even apprised Rams management of that possibility.

But don't dismiss the idea that Bates could surface in Houston with the Texans. The Texans had thought that former Tampa Bay assistant head coach Rod Marinelli would be their defensive coordinator next season. But that was before the Lions tabbed Marinelli as their next head coach.

Now that they have, the Texans are hoping they can lure Bates to Houston. But the Rams are hoping they can lure him to St. Louis. This means that Bates now has the leverage to land the type of contract he wants, and the fact that he is such a wanted man also minimizes some of the disappointment he experienced after the Packers bypassed him for their head coach.

VIKINGS ON THE PROWL

Add another name to the list of candidates the Vikings are interviewing for their vice president of player personnel -- Billy Kuharich, Kansas City's vice president of pro personnel.

Kuharich spent Friday with Vikings officials, huddling over the job that is a plum one. Kuharich is one candidate, but he is hardly alone. The Vikings also have interviewed former Miami Dolphins general manager Rick Spielman, former Falcons personnel guru Ron Hill and there is one other candidate also to consider.

Denver's director of pro personnel Rick Smith is somebody the Vikings have been tracking for a long time. The Vikings aren't expected to make any hires until they get a chance to meet face to face with Smith.

TAKING BACK POWER

Brad Childress is a first-time head coach in Minnesota, Scott Linehan the same in St. Louis, Rod Marinelli the same in Detroit, Mike McCarthy the same in Green Bay, Sean Payton the same in New Orleans and Eric Mangini the same in New York.

What it's pointing out, more than anything, is that general managers are taking back control of their teams. In the past, we have witnessed coaches gain more and more control, with many having the final say on and off the field.

Now general managers are hiring first-time head coaches in scenarios under which the general managers are, once again, thought of as more powerful than the head coaches they're hiring.

ftwbolt
01-23-2006, 12:43 PM
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9181616

Adam Schefter's "Around the League" reports and commentaries can be seen regularly on NFL Total Access.

(Jan. 22, 2006) -- After finishing as the runner-up for Buffalo's head-coaching job two years ago, Dick Jauron now will finish first.

Jauron is expected to be named the Bills next head coach on Jan. 23, after he beat out former Green Bay head coach Mike Sherman for Buffalo's lead coaching job.

It's no surprise that the Bills have opted for Jauron; this was a process under way the past week.

When Jauron flew from Detroit to Buffalo last week for his interview, he flew with Bills owner Ralph Wilson. The two had extra time to get reacquainted, after the two knew each other from their interviews two years ago.

Also, Bills general manager Marv Levy was a Bears radio analyst when Jauron won the NFL's Coach of the Year with the team. From the moment Mike Mularkey resigned as the Bills head coach, Jauron's name vaulted to the head of the contender list. The interviews only reaffirmed what Wilson has felt for Jauron since they first met. Jauron was the man for the Bills.

A DOLPHIN CATCH

Miami won't need an offensive coordinator to replace Scott Linehan any longer. The Dolphins hired former Bills head coach Mike Mularkey.

It's an ideal match on so many levels. Mularkey is from Ft. Lauderdale, and now gets to head home and play the Buffalo Bills twice a season.

And the Dolphins get a coach who helped make Pittsburgh's offense so successful from 1996 through 2003, when Mularkey started out as the Steelers tight ends coach before being promoted to offensive coordinator in 2001.

There was plenty of speculation that the Dolphins would pursue other offensive coordinators as well, but it became clear that Mularkey was the No. 1 candidate on Nick Saban's radar. From the time Mularkey interviewed in Miami on Jan. 20, the Dolphins tried to lure him in. On Jan. 22, they succeeded.

DENVER'S EX IN TEXAS

Now that Denver's season has ended, Broncos offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak's real busy work will begin.

Kubiak is expected to fly to Houston this week to be introduced as the Texans next head coach, quite possibly on Jan. 26. Texans owner Bob McNair confirmed that Kubiak is his choice, and the two sides now will work to finalize a contract agreement, considered only a formality.

Once Kubiak takes over as the Texans head coach, he then can focus on the task of assembling an offensive staff. It's not going to be easy. Kubiak is going to need an offensive coordinator, someone to help deploy the same successful run-blocking schemes the Broncos have used for years. Problem is, Kubiak's good friend, Rick Dennison, the Broncos offensive line coach, is still under contract in Denver.

It's doubtful that Broncos coach Mike Shanahan will allow Dennison to leave, especially since Denver does not have a suitable replacement to coach its offensive line.

Should Kubiak be prohibited from bringing Dennison with him to Denver, he always could turn to another close old friend -- former Broncos and Falcons offensive line coach Alex Gibbs, a Hall of Fame quality offensive line coach.

The Falcons recently have explored the possibility of bringing back Gibbs, but they could have competition for his services.

RAID ON PITTSBURGH

Even though he hasn't interviewed with Oakland, Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt gave the best interview he could to the Raiders on Jan. 22.

His team, with 24 first-half points, crushed the Broncos, Oakland's division rival. Whisenhunt showed he had a plan for beating the Broncos, something the Raiders must do to recapture their division.

Raiders officials watched the AFC Championship Game and now intend to ask the Steelers for permission to interview Whisenhunt for the head-coaching vacancy, though rules say Oakland will have to wait until after Super Bowl X-tra L-arge. St. Louis already expressed some interest in Whisenhunt, but it opted for Dolphins offensive coordinator Scott Linehan.

Whisenhunt's coaching this postseason, which has helped Pittsburgh's offense roll to three straight road wins, has elevated him into perhaps the Raiders' No. 1 coaching candidate.

Louisville coach Bobby Petrino might have been a favorite, but he has made it clear that he intends to remain at the school and not head to Oakland.

SCORE SETTLED

Over the years, Broncos coach Mike Shanahan has provided Steelers coach Bill Cowher with some of the nastiest postseason memories.

In 1986, Shanahan was Denver's offensive coordinator and Cowher was Cleveland's special teams coach when the Broncos beat the Browns in the AFC Championship Game known for "The Drive."

In 1987, Shanahan also was Denver's offensive coordinator and Cowher was Cleveland's secondary coach when the Broncos beat the Browns in the AFC Championship Game known for "The Fumble."

In 1997, Shanahan was Denver's head coach and Cowher was Pittsburgh's head coach when the Broncos beat the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game that propelled Denver to its first Super Bowl title.

But this time around in Denver, Cowher got his revenge. His team upset the Broncos and will represent the AFC in Super Bowl X-tra L-arge.

Mr. Heisman
01-25-2006, 03:42 PM
Let our Rivers go! Let our Rivers Go! He wants out if he doesn't start and he wont Brees Has this and it's gunna stay that way! All u River's supporters came out of the Philly Billy School of cheap knocks!

Chargeroo
01-25-2006, 09:05 PM
Let our Rivers go! Let our Rivers Go! He wants out if he doesn't start and he wont Brees Has this and it's gunna stay that way! All u River's supporters came out of the Philly Billy School of cheap knocks! Your wrong. It'd be foolish to "let Rivers go" when Drew is recovering from a shoulder injury. For all anyone knows at this point it could be mid-season before Drew is ready to go. Also, letting Rivers go means a $10M hit on this years cap. The right thing to do is keep both of them, at least until Drew is fully recovered.

hoopdreams
01-26-2006, 12:12 AM
Your wrong. It'd be foolish to "let Rivers go" when Drew is recovering from a shoulder injury. For all anyone knows at this point it could be mid-season before Drew is ready to go. Also, letting Rivers go means a $10M hit on this years cap. The right thing to do is keep both of them, at least until Drew is fully recovered.

Right on man. We have over 20 million in cap room to work with so we can keep them both and still upgrade our roster significantly.

ftwbolt
01-26-2006, 06:25 AM
Coach Nick Saban says Miami will keep the same offensive system despite the hiring of new coordinator Mike Mularkey. Meanwhile, the coach continued his QB search.
BY JASON COLEjcole@MiamiHerald.com

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13713675.htm

MOBILE - With a new offensive coordinator in place and the search for a new quarterback underway, Dolphins coach Nick Saban gave his assurance Wednesday that one thing won't change anytime soon.
Miami plans to run the same offense that was installed last season by Scott Linehan before he was hired last week as St. Louis Rams coach. Linehan was replaced by former Buffalo Bills coach Mike Mularkey, but Saban stressed that Mularkey's arrival will not lead to a change in the offense or any significant changes on the offensive staff.
''I think everybody needs to understand that we're not really changing our offense,'' Saban said. ``We're not changing our defense. We're going to keep things as consistent for our players as we can so we can grow and develop the things that we have already put in place in the first year.''
But the most intriguing question coming out of Senior Bowl practices is whether the Dolphins will have a shot at one of the top passers at the college level, such as Jay Cutler of Vanderbilt.
''I think long-term, we certainly need to get somebody that can be a potential starter for us down the road and add depth and quality at that position short-term,'' Saban said.
Cutler is among a strong group of quarterbacks participating in the game this year, and he has put on a show with his strong and accurate arm. He continued that Wednesday afternoon as Saban and his staff watched intently.
Cutler looked particularly impressive on the difficult throws to the outside normally required to be successful in a pro-style offense.
''He made some throws that kind of caught your eye,'' Cleveland Browns coach Romeo Crennel said.
Cutler also has earned high marks from scouts for his ability to lead Vanderbilt, an otherwise moribund program, to a 5-6 record last season despite not having much talent around him. Some even rated Cutler as a better prospect than USC's Matt Leinart.
Cutler isn't the only quarterback to impress so far. Talk is that up to five of the six quarterbacks in the game could be taken on the first day of the NFL Draft in April. Aside from Cutler, Brodie Croyle of Alabama, Charlie Whitehurst of Clemson, D.J. Shockley of Georgia and Darrell Hackney of Alabama-Birmingham could all be drafted in the top three rounds.
In fact, Hackney's arm might be stronger than Cutler's, but the fact Hackney is only 5-11 is considered a drawback. He also had a weight problem before his senior year. He once weighed 262 but was down to 238 this season and maintained it.
Whether the Dolphins take one of those quarterbacks or someone else, however, the system the team plays will be a constant. That, Saban said, is critical to the long-term development of the team.
''If we're not smart enough as coaches to learn the terminology we need to let the players have success, which is the key to the drill, then we're not the kind of teachers we need to be,'' he said.

SMITH TO LEAVE?
Dolphins defensive coordinator Richard Smith has been involved in talks with the Houston Texans about becoming their defensive coordinator. Smith's decision to change teams was directly involved with the hiring of Dom Capers as special assistant to Saban.
Smith and assistant head coach for defense Will Muschamp split the running of the defense last season. As with the offense, Saban said the defense will not change in any fundamental way.


Bucs Have Their Eye On OU Guard

Published: Jan 26, 2006

http://bucs.tbo.com/bucs/MGBCJ8RHWIE.html

MOBILE, ALA. - The Bucs were pretty pleased with the play of their offensive line this season - pleased, but not content.

Content would suggest the Bucs are happy to leave things just as they are for another year, but they're not. With the exception of left guard, the Bucs believe they need to get better at every spot on the line.

That's why they've spent a good portion of their time at the Senior Bowl this week watching University of Oklahoma guard Davin Joseph.

Though they were happy with the play this season of starting right guard Sean Mahan, the Bucs believe Mahan is a little small for the guard spot and is better suited to play center. Before they move Mahan, the Bucs want to be sure they've got somebody better to plug in at guard. That's where Joseph comes in.

Though it's difficult to predict who will be available when the Bucs make their first pick (23rd overall) in this year's draft, it's a decent bet Joseph will be. Several teams currently have him rated as a late first-round selection, so the chances of the Bucs finally getting a shot at Joseph seem good.

We say finally because the Bucs have had their eye on Joseph since this time last year, when he came close to declaring for the draft as a junior.

"I was hoping he'd come out last year," said Bucs senior assistant and assistant offensive line coach Aaron Kromer. "I like the kid. I look at those long arms and think, 'This guy can be good.' "

Joseph's arms are probably the first thing you notice about him. They literally hang down to his knees, which means he'll have a natural advantage.

"Those arms are really going to help him keep defenders away," said Mike Munchak, the Tennessee Titans' offensive line coach who is prepping Joseph for this weekend's Senior Bowl game. "But he moves well, too, and he's got nice size. Some teams may want to take a look at him at tackle, but I think he's a natural fit at guard. He could come in ready to play there."

Any team wanting to look at Joseph as a tackle won't be the first. Joseph (6-foot-3, 312 pounds) spent his senior season playing left tackle because the Sooners failed to recruit a worthy replacement there.

"I didn't mind it," Joseph said of playing left tackle. "That's what the team needed, and I care more about the team than I do myself. I was just glad to be able to help out that way.

"And besides, I think it helped me out. I mean, I proved I can be pretty versatile by playing tackle and I learned a lot. Things that I used to cheat on and get away with at guard, I couldn't do at tackle. So it made me better."

Scouts don't disagree. Bucs scouting director Ruston Webster was one of several who said this week that Joseph's ability to play both positions will help him not only on draft day but also beyond.

Joseph said he feels "at home" at guard and added he didn't mind it at all when he learned he would be moved back there for the Senior Bowl. After all, Joseph has been on the move almost his entire career.

A state and national wrestling champion out of Hallandale, Joseph joined the Sooners' program as a defensive tackle. Shortly after reaching the OU campus, he was moved to guard. Then came the move to tackle.

"I liked playing on the defensive side of the ball, but the offensive line is where I found my home," he said. "I just feel more comfortable there. And I think it's worked out pretty well for me."

The move out of state worked out, too. Joseph contemplated attending Florida, but he would have come in just as Steve Spurrier was leaving, and he didn't feel right about the direction of the program.

He also contemplated attending Florida State and had an offer to go to Miami, but neither venue had the kind of campus atmosphere he was looking for.

"I wanted to live in a real college town and experience that, and Oklahoma gave me that better than any other place," he said. "But now that my time there is done, I wouldn't mind coming home to Florida. That would be great."

The Bucs just might be content with that, too.

ftwbolt
01-26-2006, 06:42 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/26/sports/football/26jets.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all

By KAREN CROUSE
Published: January 26, 2006
The messy divorce between the offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger and the Jets became official yesterday when the team released Heimerdinger from his contract a week after he said he did not want to return after being passed over for the head-coaching job.

Heimerdinger, 53, was lured to the Jets from the Tennessee Titans last January by the chance to work with Coach Herman Edwards, who was let out of the final two years of his contract this month so he could become the coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Heimerdinger, who felt unmoored by Edwards's departure, was one of eight candidates interviewed by the Jets to become Edwards's successor.

When the job went to Eric Mangini, New England's defensive coordinator, Heimerdinger made it clear to the Jets that he did not wish to fulfill the final two years of his three-year contract.

Under those circumstances, he said it would be best for him and the team if he were free to pursue a fresh start, presumably in Denver as the offensive coordinator for Mike Shanahan. Heimerdinger, who was Shanahan's roommate at Eastern Illinois University, was the Broncos' receivers coach under Shanahan from 1995 to 1999.

The Jets, who were 4-12 this season, initially balked at letting Heimerdinger go. They told him he was being retained, presumably because of financial reasons. Terry Bradway, the Jets' general manager, did not return repeated calls yesterday.

Heimerdinger's position was this: Why did the Jets insist he stay if they did not value him enough to promote him?

The seven-day stalemate ended yesterday with the Jets releasing a statement saying the two had "mutually agreed to part ways."

"I have great respect for Mike Heimerdinger as a football coach," Mangini said in the statement. "Ultimately we agreed that the best course of action would be for the Jets to go in a different direction."

The people being considered to replace Heimerdinger include Chris Palmer, the Houston Texans' offensive coordinator, and Mike Sheppard, the former offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. Sheppard had worked with Mangini in Cleveland and Baltimore.

Heimerdinger was hired a year ago to breathe life into the offense after the forced resignation of Paul Hackett. Heimerdinger installed a deep passing attack in training camp, but he ended up scrapping it after the third game of the season when the Jets lost quarterbacks Chad Pennington and Jay Fiedler to shoulder injuries.

The departure of Heimerdinger was not good news for players like fullback B. J. Askew, who will now play for his third offensive coordinator in three years.

"It's another offense to have to learn, and that's really the last thing you want," Askew said yesterday by telephone. "I was really looking forward to coming back and feeling more comfortable with the schemes and picking up where we had left off. But instead, we'll be starting all over again."


Lions mum on assistant hirings
Team talking to two for coordinators' jobs

January 26, 2006

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060126/SPORTS01/601260522/1049/SPORTS

The Lions had not announced the hiring of any assistant coaches by late Wednesday afternoon, despite reports they had hired Donnie Henderson as their defensive coordinator and were high on Hue Jackson for their offensive coordinator job.

Apparently the Lions were talking to Henderson, the former New York Jets defensive coordinator, and to Jackson, Cincinnati's wide receivers coach, but nothing had been finalized.

New Lions coach Rod Marinelli is attending Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala. The Senior Bowl is as much a coaching job fair as it is a chance to scout college prospects.

Marinelli has told some members of the Lions' old staff, such as offensive coordinator Ted Tollner, they will not be retained, sources said. Four coaches have found work elsewhere: defensive coordinator Dick Jauron, quarterbacks coach Greg Olson, defensive line coach Larry Brooks and assistant offensive line/tight ends coach Sean Kugler, who was hired Wednesday as assistant head coach and offensive line coach at Boise State.

Defensive assistant Phil Snow reportedly has been retained. It is believed defensive assistant Don Clemons, special teams coach Chuck Priefer and assistant special teams/offensive assistant Stan Kwan have a good chance to be retained.


http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3613502.html

Despite a whirlwind of activity in Houston, including a meeting with owner Bob McNair to sign his contract, Kubiak continued to work on hiring his first staff.

Two coaches will follow him from Denver. Troy Calhoun will be the offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach. Jim Ryan will coach linebackers.

Former Green Bay coach Mike Sherman might be the assistant head coach/offensive line. Sherman coached the offensive line at Texas A&M (1992-93) when Kubiak was A&M's running backs coach. Kyle Shanahan (receivers) and Brian Pariani (tight ends) will be part of Kubiak's first staff.

If they can get out of their contracts, Arizona linebackers coach Frank Bush and Miami assistant Richard Smith will be co-defensive coordinators.

Holdovers from Dom Capers' staff will be Jon Hoke (defensive backs); Joe Marciano (special teams); Dan Riley (strength and conditioning); and Ray Wright (assistant strength and conditioning).

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/13716438.htm

Hoffman looking for job

Former Cowboys kicking coach Steve Hoffman was one of many coaches in Mobile this week looking for a job.
Bill Parcells fired Hoffman after the 2004 season. Hoffman has been working as a consultant and was also in Mobile scouting kickers in the Senior Bowl.
Hoffman was the Cowboys' kicking coach from 1989-2004 and was not replaced.

Palmer interviews
Former Houston Texans offensive coordinator Chris Palmer was at Valley Ranch on Wednesday to talk with the Cowboys about becoming their next offensive or passing game coordinator.
He was seen leaving the team's facility with Cowboys offensive line coach Tony Sparano.
Palmer appears to be the leading candidate to replace former assistant head coach/passing game coordinator Sean Payton, who was hired as New Orleans' head coach.
Newsday reported that Palmer also has spoken with the Jets about becoming their offensive coordinator.

ftwbolt
01-28-2006, 05:55 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=clayton_john#20060126

Instead of putting all their eggs in the Ken Whisenhunt basket, Raiders boss Al Davis did a smart thing in interviewing Mike Martz Thursday. He might follow through and do another smart thing if he interviews Jim Fassel in the next week. There is no guarantee Whisenhunt will take the job. Certainly, Whisenhunt is interested. This is a head coaching job with an offense that has Randy Moss, great receivers and LaMont Jordan at running back. But there is a problem in the sense that Davis has re-hired some members of the coaching staff. The Raiders can't interview Whienhunt until after the Super Bowl so they should have an alternative plan ready just in case.
Probably not Shoop's time: The Raiders did talk to quarterback coach John Shoop for the head coaching job, but that is something that probably won't work out. Shoop struggled as an offensive coordinator in Chicago. He has been with the Bucs and the Raiders in the past two years. To jump from quarterback coach to head coach is a little much. He needs a better track record as a coordinator before getting the job.

Bates might not take Bills' offer: Don't be surprised if Jim Bates turns down the Bills offer to be defensive coordinator. Even though he has two years of money coming from the Packers, Bates may not be happy with the money the Bills are offering. The Bills' job is the last defensive coordinator job available, so the option for Bates is to sit out a year and wait unless he wants to coach a position.

Lions eye Bechtol: The Lions are trying to convince former Packers offensive line coach Larry Bechtol into taking the job. He's one of the better offensive line coaches in the NFL and would be a great addition for the Lions. Still, Rod Marinelli is under a lot of pressure to hire a good offensive coordinator and the search continues.

Shurmer on Jets' radar: The Jets may have to settle for Eagles quarterback coach Pat Shurmer as their offensive coordinator. Shurmer is young, but he is rising in the coaching circles. The Jets talked to Steve Fairchild, but he went to Buffalo. They talked to Chris Palmer, but he is talking to the Cowboys.

Potential roadblock in Kubiak's plan: Gary Kubiak's move to have a co-defensive coordinator may not be that easy. Kubiak thought of putting Frank Bush together with Richard Smith. Getting Smith is no problem. The Dolphins gave the coordinator job to Dom Capers above him. Getting Bush out of Arizona may not be as easy. A lot of first-time coaches are finding it difficult to get assistants because so many are under contract and teams can refuse to let them interview for jobs.

Reinfeldt to 49ers? The Seahawks could lose a valuable front office executive to the NFC West rival 49ers. Mike Reinfeldt, who negotiated the key deals to keep the team together during the offseason, is considered the leading candidate for the 49ers' job as president. Mike Nolan is looking for an addition in the front office and Reinfeldt would be a great hire. He's a former player. He's run a lot of the business operations for the Raiders, Houston Oilers and Seahawks. He's a great cap guy.


A Heimerdinger of a hire
Longtime coordinator, Shanahan's college roommate to run offense

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4423117,00.html

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
January 28, 2006
Former New York Jets offensive coordinator Mike Heimerdinger, a longtime friend of Broncos coach Mike Shanahan and a former Denver wide receivers coach, will be in town Monday and will sign on the dotted line to be the team's offensive coordinator.
He will replace Gary Kubiak, who formally was introduced as Houston Texans coach Thursday, and accompany the Broncos coaching staff to Hawaii to coach the AFC team in the Pro Bowl.

Shanahan could not be reached for comment, but he had consistently said he was searching for continuity in the team's offense in -Kubiak's replacement.

Heimerdinger was released from his contract by the Jets on Wednesday. After head coach Herman Edwards left the Jets to take the head coaching job with the Kansas City Chiefs, Heimerdinger had offered to forgo the final two years of the deal, leaving just more than $2 million on the table if the Jets would allow him to leave.

The Jets originally had said they were going to retain Heimer-dinger, who was hired by Edwards before the 2005 season. That was despite Heimerdinger's reluctance to stay after Edwards moved on to Kansas City and the fact newly hired coach Eric Mangini already had informally talked to others around the league about the position.

"That's going to be a good fit in Denver," Titans coach Jeff Fisher said from Mobile, Ala., where he is coaching the North team in the Senior Bowl.

Fisher hired Heimerdinger as the Titans offensive coordinator, and Heimerdinger served in that role from 2000 to 2004.

Heimerdinger, who was Shanahan's roommate at Eastern Illinois University, was the Broncos wide receivers coach from 1995 to 1999. His son Brian is a wide receiver at Colorado State.

Kubiak spent the past two decades as either a player or assistant coach with the Broncos. He was the only offensive coordinator Shanahan has had in his tenure as Denver's head coach.

Heimerdinger was calling plays in the Titans offense when Steve McNair shared the league's MVP award with Peyton Manning in 2003. Derrick Mason, who signed with Baltimore before the '05 season as a free agent, had four consecutive 1,000-yard receiving seasons playing for Heimerdinger.

The Titans also were in the league's top five in time of possession in each of Heimerdinger's five seasons as coordinator.

And in 2004, a season during which McNair missed eight games because of a sternum injury for the 5-11 Titans, the team still had a 1,000-yard rusher (former University of Colorado running back Chris Brown) and two 1,000-yard receivers (Mason and Drew Bennett).

This past season the Jets, because of injuries, used four different quarterbacks on their way to a 4-12 record that led to Edwards' departure and Mangini's hiring as head coach.

ftwbolt
01-29-2006, 09:22 AM
http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/14124876p-14953910c.html

If the Raiders are genuinely interested in Mike Martz for their head-coaching vacancy, it represents a revision in owner Al Davis' thinking.
Shortly after Norv Turner was fired Jan. 3, Davis said in a teleconference that he was concerned about the health of Martz, the former St. Louis Rams coach who was interviewed Thursday at the Raiders' Alameda headquarters.

"I would have to really think about it," Davis said. "Mike has always been of interest because he is dynamic. He is not afraid. But there is a fear there right now of (his health). I don't know if we are ready to accept that."

Martz, 54, missed 11 games this season with a bacterial infection of the heart, but it was friction with the Rams' front office that led to his ouster after five-plus years and a 56-36 record with one Super Bowl appearance.

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported Martz had discussions with Raiders personnel executive Mike Lombardi before being invited to sit down with Davis.

The assumption is those preliminary discussions were to check on Martz's physical status.

Before a formal meeting with Davis and Lombardi, Martz had interviewed for the New Orleans coaching vacancy, eventually filled by Dallas assistant Sean Payton.

Martz also has talked of staying out of football for a year.

On the surface, it's easy to see why Martz's play-calling would appeal to Davis, who wanted to return to an aggressive offensive style by hiring Turner two years ago and acquiring marquee receiver Randy Moss last year from Minnesota.

Nevertheless, the Raiders showed no zip. With Martz, the Raiders would be getting an imaginative coach, not at all cautious about throwing deep and establishing a power running attack. The big question is how Martz, a strong-willed individual, would get along with Davis.

Meanwhile, the presumption is that Davis is waiting to meet with Pittsburgh offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, 43, after the Super Bowl. If Whisenhunt isn't his choice, Davis has to have options, and Martz might be one of them.

There also are unconfirmed reports the Raiders may want to talk to Ravens offensive coordinator Jim Fassel, 56, former New York Giants head coach, and former Raiders coach Art Shell, 59. Fassel served as quarterbacks coach for Oakland in 1995 and was 60-56-1 with the Giants, including a Super Bowl appearance. Shell, currently working for the league, was 56-41 with the Raiders in Los Angeles but was fired after a 9-7 season in 1994.

So far, the Raiders have acknowledged interviewing five candidates. Two have since landed other jobs - Al Saunders, 58, who is moving from Kansas City to Washington as offensive coordinator, and Tampa Bay defensive line coach Rod Marinelli, 56, named head coach in Detroit.

Others interviewed were San Diego receivers coach and ex-Raider James Lofton, 49, still with the Chargers; and first-year Raiders quarterbacks coach John Shoop, 36, former offensive coordinator of the Chicago Bears.

Another name that has occasionally cropped up is Rick Neuheisel. The former college coach and current quarterbacks coach for Baltimore has been a training-camp guest of Davis. But Neuheisel, 44, told a Mobile, Ala., reporter at the Senior Bowl he hadn't been contacted by the Raiders.


Silence broken

Moss, scarce with interviews, is talking with a few selected outlets - Sporting News Radio and ESPN. Weighing in on the Raiders' coaching search, Moss said the new field boss must be someone who will take charge.
He also downplayed a supposed feud with Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper, contending he'd welcome Culpepper to Oakland if a deal could be made. Moss even made a U-turn on Terrell Owens, available for trade from Philadelphia. Initially, Moss said there was no room for another starting receiver in Oakland. Now he says he wouldn't be opposed if Owens could help the team win.


And the next QB is ...

Originally published Jan 28, 2006

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston28jan28,1,6220492.column?coll=bal-sports-football

At this point, patience is needed. The Ravens are interested in a number of veteran quarterbacks, but it would be foolish to reveal their hand so early into the offseason.

It's the game outside the game.

Will they sign a potential unrestricted free agent such as Drew Brees, Charlie Batch, Jon Kitna, Josh McCown, Kurt Warner or Jeff Garcia? Or will they sign a possible salary cap casualty like Steve McNair, Kerry Collins, Aaron Brooks or Daunte Culpepper?

A lot of things can and will change in the coming months, but early indications point to Collins being the perfect fit to become the Ravens' starting quarterback in 2006. Now, let's not get carried away here. No phone calls or letters, please.

This is not based on inside information, nor are we taking a leap of faith. But if you look at the scenarios and matchups, Collins could become The Man.

You can immediately rule out Brees. The San Diego Chargers are contenders, and Brees is at the top of his game. He fits all the criteria. He's accurate. He's got good feet and makes logical decisions. He has won big games, and is a leader. Philip Rivers might be the Chargers' quarterback of the future, but he seems destined to be an understudy for another season, and the same goes for Atlanta's Matt Schaub, who backs up Michael Vick.

The Ravens can't afford to wait another year on the development of a quarterback like McCown. They already have one of those in Kyle Boller, whose slow progress helped force Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti to put a one-year short leash on coach Brian Billick.

So, that cuts down the list of candidates significantly, and the answer keeps coming up Collins. Of course, he's still under contract with the Raiders, but it's unlikely that the Raiders will pay him his scheduled $2.5 million roster bonus this year as well as his $6 million base salary. Collins is expected to make $8.5 million during each of the next three seasons.

Hello.

Can you say "restructure" or "waived?"

Here's another factor: Collins was the quarterback of the New York Giants from 1999 to 2003 and has a comfort zone with former Giants coach Jim Fassel, who is the Ravens' offensive coordinator.

Here's one more: He's one of the few quarterbacks who can still play and win right away.

"He's on the ready; by that, he's a guy that can step in, make all the throws and still provide some leadership instantly," said a coach who has been an offensive coordinator in both the AFC and NFC. "He's proven and shown he can lead a team to the big game. I believe he can still get the job done."

So, that basically leaves the Ravens with Kitna, Culpepper and Collins. Culpepper is a good player, selected to the Pro Bowl three times. He's got a huge body and a strong arm. That's the upside. Here's the downside: Culpepper could miss the start of next season after tearing three ligaments in his right knee on Oct. 30.

Again, time is not on the Ravens' side.

Culpepper is also facing misdemeanor charges for his role in the Vikings' infamous sex cruise caper. Despite the injury and charges, Culpepper recently campaigned for a new contract after turning down the Vikings' request to rehabilitate in Minnesota and refusing a face-to-face meeting with new coach Brad Childress.

Doesn't this sound like some prominent players already on the Ravens' roster? Can this team absorb another helium head?

Kitna is an interesting proposition, but not the guy. He's going to commit one game-changing blunder every week. Bank on it.

Regardless, Cincinnati coach Marvin Lewis probably won't allow him to leave. The Bengals have so many weapons that they can minimize Kitna's mistakes. With more repetitions than a year ago, he can be successful in Cincinnati, but not in Baltimore.

The Ravens don't have a featured running back. They have holes on the offensive line. They have good receivers in Derrick Mason, Mark Clayton and tight end Todd Heap, but no one who can consistently get them the ball.

Hopefully, Collins will be on the open market. Last year, Collins threw for 3,759 yards and 20 touchdowns. He moves just well enough, and has enough pocket presence to be able to duck a pass rush even though he has a reputation for panicking under pressure.

"That was in an offense that was terrible, that had nothing to it," one league defensive coordinator said. "If you want to keep your team alive on the fly, then Collins can step in. He has enough experience to adjust to any system."

That's the M.O. for the next Ravens quarterback. They want him to either start, or at least compete with Boller for the starting job. With Collins, you get an upgrade over Boller, and a quarterback who has proved he can throw accurately, yet manage the game.

His future is in doubt right now. The Raiders might bring him back. If not, he might demand a lot of money on the free-agent market, maybe too much for the Ravens. But for now, he appears to be a good match. He's old enough to lead a team, and young enough to provide some energy and confidence. He might not be the long-term answer, but at least he won't be a short-term problem.

Again.

ftwbolt
01-29-2006, 09:57 AM
COACH IS NO LONGER A RAIDERS CANDIDATE

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/oakland_raiders/13741342.htm

By Steve CorkranKnight RidderFormer St. Louis Rams coach Mike Martz has informed the Raiders that he no longer wants to be considered for their coaching vacancy, according to an ESPN report.
This comes only two days after Martz interviewed with Raiders managing general partner Al Davis about the prospect of replacing Norv Turner.
Martz is the third candidate interviewed by the Raiders who has taken a job elsewhere or said he isn't interested in coaching the Raiders.
``It was fun visiting with Al Davis,'' Martz told the St. Louis Post Dispatch.
``But the situation's probably not for me right now.''
He declined to elaborate.
Martz spent the past six seasons as the Rams' head coach.
He guided them to playoff berths four times and to the Super Bowl once.
He was fired at the end of this season with one year left on his contract.
Martz reportedly is weighing an offer to become offensive coordinator for the Detroit Lions.
Coincidentally, Lions Coach Rod Marinelli was the second of five candidates known to have interviewed with the Raiders.
Of the 10 NFL teams seeking coaches this off-season, the Raiders are the only one that still has a vacancy.


Martz could run Lions' offense
Ex-Rams head coach will apparently decide by Monday whether or not to take the job.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060129/SPORTS0106/601290305/1126/SPORTS0101

Mike O'Hara / The Detroit News

Mike Martz, the architect of the offense known as "The Greatest Show on Turf" while offensive coordinator and head coach of the St. Louis Rams, reportedly is under consideration by new Lions coach Rod Marinelli for the offensive coordinator's position.

Martz has told the Lions that he will make up his mind by Monday, according to a report on ESPN.com.

Martz, 54, became offensive coordinator of the Rams in 1999. The team featured quarterback Kurt Warner and running back Marshall Faulk and beat the Tennessee Titans in Super Bowl XXXIV.

Dick Vermeil announced his retirement as head coach after the Super Bowl and Martz succeeded him. The 2001 Rams went to Super Bowl XXXVI and lost to the New England Patriots.

Martz gave up coaching the Rams after five games in 2005 because of a heart condition caused by a bacterial infection.

The Rams released him after the season and reached a settlement on the final year of his contract.

laschwa
01-29-2006, 06:53 PM
http://www.prosportsdaily.com/nfl/nflrumors.html

not a lot of credibility with this one, but who knows?

they say that BAL's chris mccalister wants out.

he'd be great to have at corner.

anyone know what type of contract he currently has? and if he's locked up, anyone venture a guess at what it would take for the bolts to trade for him?

Chargers GM
01-30-2006, 08:14 AM
Aj Smith is going to trade Rivers and a third round pick and a second next year to either Titans or the Saints. Then take ferguson. our pick take Huff or holmes. pick up Hutchunson in FA.

OH-10BoltsFan
01-30-2006, 08:28 AM
Aj Smith is going to trade Rivers and a third round pick and a second next year to either Titans or the Saints. Then take ferguson. our pick take Huff or holmes. pick up Hutchunson in FA.

Is there any credibility to this cuz I thought AJ already said he's keeping both Rivers and Brees

Chargeroo
01-30-2006, 08:40 AM
Is there any credibility to this cuz I thought AJ already said he's keeping both Rivers and BreesNo credibility, just a guys guess.

IgorUnchained
01-30-2006, 08:43 AM
No link.....was just watching Cold Pizza and Leigh Steingberg said that his client, Matt Leinart, would go to New Orleans "with bells on" if that team chose to draft him. Kind of puts the rumors that he wouldnt go there to rest for me.

foober
01-30-2006, 09:12 AM
No link.....was just watching Cold Pizza and Leigh Steingberg said that his client, Matt Leinart, would go to New Orleans "with bells on" if that team chose to draft him. Kind of puts the rumors that he wouldnt go there to rest for me.

The rumors I've read are that new orleans might want cutler more than lienart. That lienart might fall many spaces down in the draft if that happens. Much like what happened to the new greenbay qb rookie of last year.

ftwbolt
01-30-2006, 02:17 PM
Updated: Jan. 30, 2006, 3:30 PM ET

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2312351

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com


The New York Jets' search for an offensive coordinator has ended, as ESPN.com has learned that the team has hired San Diego quarterbacks coach Brian Schottenheimer, the son of Chargers head coach Marty Schottenheimer.

Schottenheimer, 32, interviewed last week for the key position on first-year coach Eric Mangini's staff, and was said by league insiders to have been extremely impressive in his presentation. The addition of Schottenheimer certainly continues a trend of sorts toward youth on the Jets staff, as Mangini is just 35 years old.

The younger Schottenheimer essentially replaces Mike Heimerdinger, who was released by the Jets from the final two years of his contract, so that he could rejoin the staff of the Denver Broncos, for whom he previously worked.

The Jets had interviewed several candidates for the coordinator post and it is believed that Schottenheimer won out over Philadelphia Eagles quarterbacks coach Pat Shurmur. The Jets also spoke with former Cleveland Browns head coach Chris Palmer, who on Monday accepted a position on the Dallas Cowboys' staff.

The offensive coordinator job is critical for any franchise of course, but it figures to be especially crucial for the Jets. There is uncertainty involving the quarterback position, as Chad Pennington continues his rehabilitation from a second shoulder surgery, and might not be ready for training camp. Star tailback Curtis Martin will turn 33 in May and his productivity was dramatically diminished in 2005. And the offensive line unit showed too much age last season and needs to be revamped.

A former college quarterback at Kansas and the University of Florida, Schottenheimer has been in the league for seven seasons. He joined the St. Louis Rams' staff for the 1997 season, coached at Kansas City in 1998, then went to the college level for two years at Syracuse (1999) and Southern California (2000).

After spending the 2001 season on his father's staff with the Washington Redskins, he followed the elder Schottenheimer to San Diego in 2002. Schottenheimer is said to have a very keen feel for the passing game, is good in mentoring quarterbacks, and was key to the development of Chargers' quarterback Drew Brees the last two seasons.

ftwbolt
01-30-2006, 02:33 PM
http://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/bengals/daily/0130inside.html

://www.daytondailynews.com/sports/content/sports/bengals/daily/0130inside.html[/url]

By Chick Ludwig Dayton Daily News

Maybe it'll be UCLA's Marcedes Lewis or Colorado's Joe Klopfenstein. It could be Southern Cal's Dominique Byrd or N.C. State's T.J. Williams.

Then again, it might be Georgia's Leonard Pope, Maryland's Vernon Davis or Notre Dame's Anthony Fasano.

Rest assured the "Magnificent Seven" are on the Cincinnati Bengals' radar because the club desperately needs a tight end. This year's NFL draft class, laden with depth and talent, should yield a future Bengals starter — if not in the first round with the 24th pick, then in the second or third.

Cincinnati's 2005 tight end trio of Reggie Kelly, Matt Schobel and Tony Stewart combined for 37 catches for 309 yards and two touchdowns. Those numbers alone tell you an upgrade is needed.

A quality receiving tight end forces defenses to close down the middle, allowing the wide receivers to get more one-on-one coverage.


Scoring a safety

Bengals defensive backs coach Kevin Boyle and sidekick Louie Cioffi were all over the Senior Bowl practices in Mobile, Ala., last week. The objects of their scrutiny were strong safeties Greg Blue (Georgia), Pat Watkins (Florida State), Roman Harper (Alabama) and Anthony Smith (Syracuse).

Smith appears to be making the biggest leap. Once thought to be a fifth-rounder, the 6-foot, 190-pounder should be a solid first-day choice because of his range, coverage and ability in run support.


Elvis sighting

The Cleveland Browns are in the market for a pass rusher with the 12th pick. If they can't get N.C. State defensive end Mario Williams, they'll look hard at Manny Lawson and Elvis Dumervil.

Lawson (6-4, 228), who was Williams' teammate with the Wolfpack, is an impressive speed rusher. His credentials include an ACC indoor long jump title. Dumervil's size (5-11, 258) is a concern, but the Louisville star is a sack machine. Both are ideally suited for outside linebacker in the Browns' 3-4 scheme.


Rumor mill

• The Atlanta Falcons are willing to part with backup QB Matt Schaub for a second-round pick. If the Bengals choose not to re-sign free agent Jon Kitna, Schaub could emerge as a candidate to bridge the gap until Carson Palmer's return from a left knee injury.

• Bengals WR coach Hue Jackson and QB coach Ken Zampese are being mentioned as offensive coordinator candidates in Detroit and New Orleans, respectively. Both are under contract with the Bengals through the 2006 season.

• The San Francisco 49ers, who need help everywhere, are interested in WR Kelley Washington and CB Tory James should the Bengals dangle them as trade bait.

IgorUnchained
01-30-2006, 06:14 PM
The rumors I've read are that new orleans might want cutler more than lienart. That lienart might fall many spaces down in the draft if that happens. Much like what happened to the new greenbay qb rookie of last year.

The way I have seen alot of mocks going, it looks like Cutler's stock really rose while Vince Young's has begun to drop (I have no idea why). I have seen more that one mock that has Cutler as the 1st QB taken overall....I'm not buying it, but I guarantee he wont make it past the Dolphins at #16.

I truly think that Young and Leinart would be the 2nd and 3rd picks respectively if no major trades take place....Cutler could still go in the top 5, but like I said, no way he drops past the Phins.

As for my earlier post, I just thought it was cool that Leigh Steinberg said (and the way he said) that there is no way that Leinart would refuse to go anywhere....he said that Leinart would be "honored" to go to the Saints and help that organization.

Whether they pick him or not is a different story, but to know that he would go shoots apart more than a few rumors that have been floating around lately.

ftwbolt
01-31-2006, 06:33 AM
Some how this story doesn't surprise me !! Shanarat likes thugs and cheaters !

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/13752520.htm

Posted on Tue, Jan. 31, 2006

The Birds, who allowed him to seek a trade, likely wouldn't get more than a low draft pick.

By Bob BrookoverInquirer Staff Writer
DETROIT - Terrell Owens' last touchdown with the Eagles came against the Denver Broncos.
His next touchdown could well be for those same Broncos.
Multiple league sources said last night that Owens and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were in Denver discussing a potential deal with Broncos head coach Mike Shanahan and owner Pat Bowlen.
The Eagles gave Rosenhaus permission to work out a trade for Owens earlier this month, and Shanahan has let it be known that he is interested in the receiver, although Bowlen apparently was not as keen on the idea.
It's unlikely that the Eagles could get much more than a low draft pick for Owens, but that would suit them fine. Owens, of course, wore out his welcome midway through last season, and his contract dispute with the team reached its apex when he insulted the organization and quarterback Donovan McNabb during an interview with ESPN.com.
He played his final game with the Eagles Oct. 30 in Denver and scored a 91-yard touchdown after faking his way past cornerback Champ Bailey. His fateful interview took place three days later.
The Broncos are coming off a 13-3 season that came to a disappointing conclusion when they lost at home to the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC championship game.
Denver has a star receiver in Rod Smith, who has compiled more than 1,000 yards receiving in eight of the last nine seasons. The Broncos also have an above-average No. 2 receiver in Ashley Lelie, but their passing game overall ranked just 20th in the NFL. In addition, Smith will be 36 next season.
Owens, 32, proved in his first season with the Eagles that he is capable of helping a team reach the Super Bowl. He scored 14 touchdowns in as many games in 2004 before going down with a severe ankle sprain and broken leg, then making a heroic return in the Eagles' Super Bowl loss to New England.
But shortly after the Super Bowl, he fired agent David Joseph and hired Rosenhaus, signifying his dissatisfaction with the seven-year, $48.97 million contract he had signed with the Eagles before the 2004 season.
That triggered what eventually became a bitter divorce between T.O. and the Eagles. The last good memory the team had of Owens was in Denver, and now the Broncos are hoping they can extract some more Mile High happy memories from the controversial receiver.

ftwbolt
01-31-2006, 01:48 PM
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1138687704308340.xml&coll=1

Tuesday, January 31, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff
The Jets have hired a young, first-time offensive coordinator to join their young, first-time head coach.

After a lengthy search, new Jets coach Eric Mangini, 35, has picked Chargers quarterback coach Brian Schottenheimer, 32, to be his offensive coordinator. An agreement has been reached according to Jets vice president of public relations Ron Colangelo.

The hiring of Schottenheimer is crucial for the defensive-minded Mangini. Schottenheimer will likely have full control over the offense.

Schottenheimer, who is the son of Chargers head coach Marty Schottenheimer, won out over Eagles quarterback coach Pat Shurmur and Chris Palmer, who has been a head coach and offensive coordinator in the NFL. Palmer was hired as the Cowboys' quarterback coach. Schottenheimer replaces Mike Heimerdinger, who has been hired in Denver as the assistant head coach.

Schottenheimer, entering his eighth NFL season, has been credited with the development of Chargers quarterback Drew Brees. In 2004, Brees, who was once considered a bust, earned the NFL's Comeback Player of the Year award and was voted to his first Pro Bowl. He invited Schottenheimer and his wife to Hawaii to show his appreciation.

Last season, Brees proved he was no fluke as he completed 64.6 percent of his passes for 3,576 yards, 24 touchdowns and 15 interceptions. Of course, Pro Bowl running back LaDainian Tomlinson is the key to the Chargers' offense.

The hiring of Schottenheimer may spark trade talks between the Jets and Chargers involving quarterback Philip Rivers. Earlier this season, there were rumors of the clubs discussing a deal that would send Jets defensive end John Abraham to the Chargers for Rivers and, perhaps, a high draft pick.

The Chargers, however, may now want to keep Rivers in the wake of a right shoulder injury suffered by Brees in the season finale against Denver that required surgery.

Also, the Jets were intrigued by Vanderbilt quarterback Jay Cutler at the Senior Bowl last week and may trade down from the fourth spot overall and select Cutler in the 10-to-15 range and pick up additional draft choices. If the Jets keep their fourth selection, they're expected to take Virginia offensive tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Schottenheimer is facing a monumental task with the Jets. Quarterback Chad Pennington had his second rotator cuff surgery in an eight-month span last October and his career is in jeopardy. Running back Curtis Martin turns 33 in May, the offensive line is in need of a major overhaul and the team lacks an explosive game-breaking wide receiver.

Schottenheimer, a college quarterback at Kansas and Florida, began his coaching career as an offensive assistant with the Rams in 1997. He has coached with the Chiefs (offensive assistant), USC (tight ends), Syracuse University (wide receivers), the Redskins (quarterbacks) and the Chargers (quarterbacks).

Before the 2004 season, he underwent surgery for thyroid cancer.

Heimerdinger was hired by the Broncos to replace Gary Kubiak and be assistant head coach. Coach Mike Shanahan hired Heimerdinger and promoted offensive line coach Rick Dennison to offensive coordinator, the position Kubiak held before leaving to take the head coaching job with the Houston Texans.

Heimerdinger, who coached the Broncos' wide receivers in 1995-99, spent the past six years as an offensive coordinator with the Jets (2005) and Tennessee Titans (2000-04).



The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Ikeman83
02-01-2006, 03:28 AM
Saw this on ESPN, thought it belonged here rather than in its own thread.

Dolphins dangling Ricky?
<Jan. 31> According to the Denver Post, the Broncos may consider dealing for Williams, depending on the asking price. With Ronnie Brown entrenched as the featured back of the future, Dolphins head coach Nick Saban is reportedly willing to move Williams if the right deal presented itself. The Texans have also been mentioned as a potential suitor.

BoltsfanNYC
02-01-2006, 06:06 AM
I dont see williams going to denver/ big salary... hit in MIAMI if traded... but denver will take him clarett and TP I mean TO!

ftwbolt
02-01-2006, 06:41 AM
Chiefs probably would wait for Eagles to cut superstar receiver
By ELIZABETH MERRILL The Kansas City Star Posted on Wed, Feb. 01, 2006

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/13760070.htm

Three months ago, when Dick Vermeil occupied the large fourth-floor office at Arrowhead Stadium, the Chiefs said they absolutely, positively had no interest in embattled receiver Terrell Owens.
That icy stance has changed.
Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told The Star on Tuesday that Kansas City was “somewhat interested” in Owens and that Peterson planned to have an in-depth conversation with new coach Herm Edwards about the possibility of acquiring the five-time Pro Bowler.
Two things have apparently piqued the Chiefs’ interest — the hope of a possible attitude makeover after Owens’ suspension by the Eagles, and Edwards’ success in working with difficult players.
Edwards, who stresses a team-first mentality, was able to work his magic on the likes of Warren Sapp in Tampa Bay and Ty Law in New York. He’d have his hands full with Owens, who was suspended by the Eagles in November after he repeatedly criticized his team, the front office and quarterback Donovan McNabb.
“I’ve always felt Herm has the ability to bridge the gap between a lot of players,” Peterson said, “whether they’re black or white, whether they’re offense or defense or special teams, whether they’re superstars or backup players. I think that’s one of his strengths.
“Now, based on that, certainly I will have this conversation with him, and I’m sure there are other teams in the NFL who will do the same thing. But there are a lot of things that would go into it, and at the end of the day, we both may very well decide this is not the right path in which to try and follow.”
Owens has five seasons left on his contract, but the Eagles recently gave his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, permission to seek a trade. Owens reportedly visited Denver on Monday in what was called a getting-acquainted session. If no team bites on a trade, the Eagles are expected to cut Owens next month; he is due more than $7 million from Philadelphia if he’s on the roster after March 1.
The Chiefs probably will wait to see whether Owens is cut. A source familiar with the situation told The Star that an incentive-laden, one-year deal would be a possibility.
Reached on his cell phone, Rosenhaus said he had no comment on Owens’ interest in the Chiefs. “I can’t,” he said. The source indicated, however, that Rosenhaus has approached the Chiefs to gauge their interest in his client.
On the surface, Kansas City would appear to be a good fit for Owens. The Chiefs have a veteran locker room and a high-powered offense with just one hole — a big-play, marquee receiver. Eddie Kennison, who recently turned 33, is the closest the Chiefs have. He has put together back-to-back 1,000-yard seasons, but Kansas City’s wideout production drops dramatically from there.
Before his suspension, Owens torched the Chiefs for 171 yards in a 37-31 loss to the Eagles last October. After the game, he chortled, “Can’t stop me … can’t stop me … can’t stop me,” in the Arrowhead Stadium locker room.
Owens is one of just six receivers in NFL history to score 100 touchdowns. He helped Philadelphia make the Super Bowl in his first season there in 2004. But things went downhill the following spring, when Owens took a jab at McNabb by saying McNabb got tired in the Super Bowl.
Then came a contract dispute with the Eagles, and more shots at McNabb and the organization. In two different NFL cities, Owens, who entered the league in San Francisco in 1996, has been known as much for his antics as his play. As a young 49er, he was suspended and fined more than $24,000 after celebrating on the Cowboys’ star at Texas Stadium. A few years later, he pulled out a Sharpie after a touchdown.
The Chiefs and a handful of other teams are hoping Owens’ time away from football has made him contrite. Owens recently seemed humbled and soft-spoken in an unscripted commercial for Boost Mobile during the playoffs. He indicated his three months away from football had made him hungry.
“Like everybody, you have to respect his on-the-field talent,” Peterson said. “The guy is the best. But he’s missed half the season, he’s going to be a year older …
“I think what may have changed, and what I hope has changed, is the ultimate attitude of Terrell Owens. Now that he’s had a chance to step back and reflect on what has happened, how it happened and what type of reaction it had … Maybe he can say, ‘I screwed up.’ ”

The two sides of Terrell

There is no doubt that Terrell Owens is a gifted wide receiver. But there is also no doubt that he comes with a lot of baggage. The 49ers found that out. So did the Eagles. If the Chiefs decide to take a chance, they’ll have to take the bad with the good.

Good attitude

■ Catches nine passes in Super Bowl less than two months after surgery for a damaged ankle and broken leg.
■ Welcomes “Desperate Housewives” with open arms.
■ Doesn’t mind when people drop by his house to watch him do a few sit-ups.
■ If you need something to write with, he may have a Sharpie in his sock.
■ Visits victims of Hurricane Katrina on his day off.

Bad attitude

■ Never met a contract he didn’t want to renegotiate.
■ No Chunky for you! Gained reputation as NFL’s No. 1 rapper with all the shots he took at Donovan McNabb.
■ Calls Philadelphia a “classless” organization — which is probably why the Eagles don’t mind being a “T.O.-less” organization.
■ Displays lack of respect for “America’s Team.”

ftwbolt
02-01-2006, 07:02 AM
Posted on Wed, Feb. 01, 2006
By Steve CorkranKnight Ridder

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/football/nfl/oakland_raiders/13761348.htm

The Raiders' patience in finding a coaching replacement for Norv Turner has cost them the likes of Al Saunders and Rod Marinelli. At the same time, it will yield them a shot at landing the offensive coordinator of the Super Bowl champion.
Seattle Seahawks coordinator Gil Haskell said Tuesday that he is interested in meeting with Raiders owner Al Davis. Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, too, gave every indication that he would welcome an overture from the lone NFL team without a coach.
League rules prevent the Raiders from contacting either until after Sunday's game in Detroit. They had an opportunity to do so earlier in the playoffs but spent that time pursuing the likes of former Kansas City offensive coordinator Saunders and former Tampa Bay defensive-line coach Marinelli.
Saunders moved to the Washington Redskins as offensive coordinator. Marinelli became Detroit's head coach. The Raiders also lost out on former St. Louis coach Mike Martz on Saturday, when he informed the team he wasn't interested in its vacancy two days after he interviewed for the position.
That leaves San Diego wide-receivers coach James Lofton and Raiders quarterbacks coach John Shoop as the only candidates still available who are known to have interviewed in person. Baltimore offensive coordinator Jim Fassel received a phone interview.
Haskell and Whisenhunt are considered two of the most attractive options for a team in need of a coach.
Haskell, 62, is the architect of the league's highest-scoring offense. He is credited with the development of quarterback Matt Hasselbeck and running back Shaun Alexander during his six seasons with the Seahawks.
Seattle averaged 28.2 points in its 16 regular-season games. By comparison, the Raiders scored more than 21 only three times and averaged 18.1.
Seattle Coach Mike Holmgren has lobbied on Haskell's behalf. However, Haskell has not received any interview requests this year.
``Mike pushed it,'' Haskell told reporters Tuesday in Detroit. ``I really appreciate that. I've always wanted the opportunity. I'd love to talk (to the Raiders). No one's called. That's where it stands right now.''
Whisenhunt, 43, is the mastermind behind a Pittsburgh offense that outplayed all three of its playoff opponents -- the Cincinnati Bengals, the Indianapolis Colts and the Denver Broncos.
On Tuesday, Whisenhunt praised the Raiders organization and sounded intrigued by the possibility of bolting the Steelers after the Super Bowl.

ftwbolt
02-01-2006, 02:44 PM
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16042065&BRD=1675&PAG=461&dept_id=18170&rfi=6

Two other teams -- one in the NFC and another in the AFC, sources said -- also are seriously interested in Eagles outcast Terrell Owens, who met Tuesday in Denver with the Broncos. Nonetheless the Broncos are "very, very much" in the hunt for Owens, according to sources that spoke on condition of anonymity.


Owens might command a respectable draft pick as compensation if a handful of teams get into a bidding war, according to a source. The Eagles gave Owens and agent Drew Rosenhaus permission to arrange a trade for the wide receiver with four years left on his contract. Owens is due $7.5 million if he remains on the Eagles roster after March 3.

The bigger story for Eagles fans is quarterback Donovan McNabb, who said at a Campbell’s Chunky Soup appearance at Super Bowl XL in Detroit he’s healthy after his hernia surgery and itching to get back to work -- without T.O.

McNabb, a reach to participate fully in the team’s early May minicamp, told reporters inquiring about the eccentric Owens, who criticized him en route to getting kicked off the team last season, "a great player."

McNabb also said he would be happy to discuss Owens with quarterback buddy Jake Plummer of the Broncos.

"I imagine he’ll be calling me," McNabb said.

The NFC’s Dallas Cowboys and Tampa Bay Buccaneers, plus the New York Jets and the Miami Dolphins of the AFC all have expressed interest in Owens according to sources. The Eagles prefer that Owens play in the AFC. The Florida teams are said to have a strong attraction for Owens.

The trading period and free agency begin March 3.

The Broncos are a veteran team that might have less trouble plugging in a problematic but talented player like Owens. Coach Mike Shanahan almost certainly wouldn’t sign Owens without protections written into the contract. Shanahan reportedly told Owens he would not put up with misbehavior. Owens reportedly said he’d been misunderstood, a contention he made almost daily in 11/2 seasons with the Eagles.

The Broncos recently signed Mike Heimerdinger, a protégé of Shanahan’s, to replace offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak, who exited to become head coach of the Houston Texans.

Veteran center Tom Nalen, among other Broncos, endorsed the addition of Owens, saying "I think he’d conform to our standards."

One thing is all but certain -- the Broncos need juice, having watched a 13-3 season blow up in the conference championship round largely due to the lack of a passing game.

ftwbolt
02-02-2006, 07:05 AM
Posted on Thu, Feb. 02, 2006

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/football/13770984.htm

BY ARMANDO SALGUEROasalguero@MiamiHerald.com

The Denver Broncos have had at least two internal discussions about acquiring Dolphins running back Ricky Williams, but the teams have not talked about a deal.
The Denver Post, citing two NFL sources, reported this week that coach Mike Shanarat might consider trading for Williams but likely only if the team does not trade for receiver Terrell Owens.
The Broncos have a desire to add playmakers at receiver and running back and this week hosted a meeting that included Owens, his South Florida agent, Drew Rosenhaus and Shanarat.

The Broncos' preliminary interest in Williams stems from a desire to upgrade a position manned by Mike Anderson and Tatum Bell. Both had good seasons in 2005 -- Anderson gaining 1,014 yards and Bell 921 -- but neither possesses the combination of size and speed that Williams has and Denver wants.
Dolphins coach Nick Saban on Wednesday declined to comment on a possible deal with the Broncos, but a source said no talks between the teams have taken place. Moreover, the Broncos have not talked to Williams' agent, Leigh Steinberg, according to another source.
That Williams is available is without doubt, however.
During his final regular-season news conference, Saban said every player on the Dolphins roster is available for the right price. When pressed about Williams specifically, he said the best interest of the franchise would force him to listen to any offer.
Williams, meanwhile, seemed to warm to the notion of playing elsewhere during the season. Early on he seemed uncomfortable with such talk but toward the end of the season said he would accept a trade if it happened, especially to a California team.
No NFL trades can be made until the league year begins in March, although teams routinely hold informal talks about players well in advance of that.

DEFENSE COACH LEAVES

A week after coming up just short of cleaning out his office, Dolphins defensive coordinator Richard Smith left the team to take the same job with the Houston Texans.
The Houston Chronicle reported that Smith will take that post under new coach Gary Kubiak. Smith had been talking with the Texans for more than week after the Dolphins hired ex-Texans coach Dom Capers to be a special assistant to coach Nick Saban, who declined to comment on the report about Smith leaving.


McNabb finally fires back at T.O.

http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060202/SPORTS02/602020400/1002/SPORTS

Thursday, February 2, 2006

By DON BENEVENTO
Courier-Post Staff


It was a long time coming, but Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb finally answered the barrage of criticism he took from teammate Terrell Owens.

He shared his own views Wednesday of what went wrong with the 6-10 team last season in an ESPN interview.

McNabb said the 2005 season was "frustrating and disturbing" and he revealed his relationship with Owens was fractured earlier than previously known.

He also said that the final straw for him was Owens' statement that the Eagles would have had a better record had Brett Favre been their quarterback.

McNabb said he was offended by that comparison.

"It was definitely a slap in the face to me," he said. "Because as deep as people won't go into it, it was a black-on-black crime. To say if we had Brett Favre, that could mean that if you had another quarterback of a different descent or ethnic background, we could be winning."

McNabb said the feud between himself and Owens actually began in Week 12 of the 2004 season at the end of an otherwise innocuous play against the Giants.

McNabb described a scenario on the third play of that game when Owens came open after McNabb had thrown an incomplete pass to Brian Westbrook.

"He came back, "Hey, I was open, throw the ball!' McNabb said. "Me being into the game, (I said) "Hey, get in the huddle man.' In different words, obviously. He continued to talk about how he was open, throw the ball. And it (led) to me using some language that's really not suitable for the kids."

The feud became public after the Super Bowl.

Near the end of the Eagles' loss against the Patriots, the offense did not operate with the usual urgency of a team that is trailing. Not long after, Owens said, "I'm not the one who got tired in the Super Bowl," a clear jab at McNabb.

For the record, McNabb said he did not tire.

ftwbolt
02-02-2006, 07:22 AM
And sharing the ball? Gonzalez says ‘there’s enough to go around
Posted on Thu, Feb. 02, 2006
’By ELIZABETH MERRILL The Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13769568.htm

For those who gasped when they found out the Chiefs were interested in talking to Terrell Owens, or wondered whether Kansas City was feigning interest to drive up the price on AFC rival Denver, the answer came Wednesday in Herm Edwards’ eyes.
Edwards talked in his office for 20 minutes about talent, second chances and championships. And he said a meeting between the Eagles’ troublesome receiver and the Chiefs may happen soon.
“He’s a talented guy,” Edwards said. “He knows how to win. That’s the great thing about the offseason. It’s like building a house. You go through the draft, through free-agency and collectively get all these guys together and say, ‘What is the best house I can build right now?’ You don’t discard anything.
“Talk is free. You never know what’s going to happen after you talk. There’s always a perception about a guy until you actually sit down and talk with him.”
T.O. was all the talk in Kansas City on Wednesday, one day after Chiefs president/general manager Carl Peterson told The Star the franchise was “somewhat interested” in Owens, a five-time Pro Bowler. Chiefs fans’ reaction ranged from outrage to intrigue. The talk appears to have started last week at the Senior Bowl in Mobile, Ala., when Owens’ agent, Drew Rosenhaus, sought out the Chiefs.
It was an odd twist for Edwards, who was hired last month in Kansas City. Ten years ago, the Senior Bowl is where Edwards, then a scout, first spotted Owens.
“I remember it like it was yesterday,” Edwards said. “He got his cleats to the ground, and you could tell he was a powerful man. He was like a young colt. Very raw. You could see he was very competitive. Very competitive. And obviously, he became who he became.”
By Wednesday, the T.O. saga had become the circus outside of the circus in Detroit. Owens reportedly met with Denver on Monday. Peterson was expected to talk to his coach sometime before he left for Motown late this week. Whispers of Owens’ arrival there were bandied about Wednesday, around the same time that one of the Chiefs’ marquee players, tight end Tony Gonzalez, told a gaggle of reporters he’d welcome the troublesome receiver.
“I know T.O, and he’s a guy who wants to be competitive, wants to play hard, and if they brought him in, I’d have no problem with that,” Gonzalez said after appearing at a function promoting the Pro Bowl.
“It would bother me if (Owens) came in and started doing the same things he was doing in Philly. The way to keep a guy like Terrell Owens happy is you’ve got to throw him the ball, which I have no problem with. He’s a great player. To me, he’s probably one of the top two receivers in the league.”
But therein lies the second biggest question — with one ball, could the Chiefs keep three Pro Bowlers happy? Running back Larry Johnson yearned for the ball for two seasons before he finally got his chance to start and break records after Priest Holmes’ season-ending neck injury. Holmes is expected to be back, too, if doctors determine that he’s neurologically sound. And then there’s Gonzalez, who caught 78 passes last season, 24 fewer than his NFL-leading 102 in 2004. At least twice last season, he expressed disappointment in his role in the offense.
But he emphasized Wednesday that “there’s enough to go around” if the Chiefs acquired Owens.
“I’d be frustrated, but I tell you what, if he can get us to the Super Bowl,” Gonzalez said, “then I’m all for it. Terrell Owens, you have to understand what type of person he is. I’m friends with him off the field. I understand what type of person he is. Don’t come and put all these expectations on him, because more than likely he’s not going to change too much. But I think a guy like Herm Edwards, from what I’ve heard, can handle a guy like this.
“For him to come in, I know Trent Green would love throwing it down the sidelines to him, and that would open things up for all of us if we use the passing game effectively, it would work out, especially with Larry Johnson in the backfield. We’d be one of those offenses, I don’t know what you would do to stop us, because I’m going to work the middle, he’s going to work the outside, and Larry Johnson runs the ball. On paper, it looks like it could be something special.”
Edwards knows it would be a tough balance, but he’s confident the Chiefs’ veteran locker room could handle it. He also knows all the talent in the NFL doesn’t automatically equate to Super Bowls.
He used an analogy of the 76ers in the 1970s. As a young cornerback for Philly at the time, Edwards followed the exploits of Dr. J, Maurice Cheeks and George McGinnis. Those teams had great talent, he said. They didn’t win any championships.
“Sometimes, at the end of the day, it’s about the team and how does the team function,” Edwards said.
“I think it’s good when you get a bunch of stars. The thing that stars realize is you’ve got to control your ego. When stars can’t control their ego, you can’t win. Well, this team has done a good job of that. Guys are going to have egos, but they don’t put their egos in front of the team.”
Edwards, Peterson said, is a master at getting 53 men with diverse backgrounds, egos and incomes to come together as a team. And maybe that’s why Edwards wasn’t surprised that Owens’ people sought him out.
When Edwards coached the New York Jets, he considered adding Owens and chatted with Randy Moss, another megatalented receiver with heavy baggage. In 2005, he added troublesome cornerback Ty Law to the Jets’ roster. Law, who bragged about deserving big money, backed it up with 10 interceptions.
“I can deal with any type of player because I’ve been in this league a long time,” Edwards said. “I understand players pretty well. I can communicate to them. I’ve had them all call me … Randy Moss, all of them.
“One thing about America is that it gives people second chances. Sometimes you get a third.”

OH-10BoltsFan
02-02-2006, 08:35 PM
Possible trade between Chargers & Jets due to Brian Schottenheimer becoming jets OC??

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/02/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html

ftwbolt
02-03-2006, 06:44 AM
Salary cap looms as big issue

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/388160p-329349c.html

BY GARY MYERS
DAILY NEWS SPORTS WRITER


DETROIT - Gene Upshaw, frustrated over the inability to get an extension to the collective bargaining agreement that runs out after the 2007 season, uttered the dirtiest six-letter word in sports yesterday.
"Clearly a strike is an alternative," Upshaw, the NFLPA executive director, said after his annual Super Bowl news conference.

The sense of urgency to get a new deal has increased and so has the rhetoric. The new league year starts on March 3, which, for now, will serve as somewhat of a deadline. But with $24 billion in new television contracts beginning next season, there seems to be plenty of money to go around. The owners and players just have to figure out how to share it.

Which could lead to a strike in two years.

"I'm not saying it's a reality, because we think we have not only charted a course, but we have also demonstrated that we're not afraid to decertify because we now know clearly what the law is," Upshaw said. "We established that when we went on strike in '87."

If no agreement is reached, the NFLPA will more likely decertify as a union than strike, a tactic used after the 1987 strike failed. Decertification will prohibit the owners from locking out the players or instituting their own system. If there is not a new CBA, the 2007 season would be the first without a salary cap since 1993. And Upshaw reiterated yesterday that once there is an uncapped year, the players never will agree to go back to the salary-cap system.

Upshaw said the price of doing business for the owners increases after March 3. There is a meeting of the player reps March 9, when the union will plot its next move. This eventually could end up in court with plenty of lawsuits. The union has accumulated a $200 million war chest to aid the players if there is a strike.

"Is that enough? No," said Buffalo's Troy Vincent, the union president. "You're fighting millionaires."

But can the players even think about walking away from the money they are making?

"You can't assume players won't fight for what they believe in and fight to keep somebody from doing something that is going to hurt them," said Doug Allen, the union's assistant executive director. "All professional sports are capable of that, including this one."

This is an issue with two major components. The NFL owners have been unable to agree among themselves how to divide the ever-increasing local revenue that is currently not shared. And until they reach a system among themselves, there can be no deal with the union. Upshaw said any deal he gets will have to give the players at least 60% of the share. Currently, they get 64.5%.

"I tell the owners, 'If you guys wait, it's going to cost you more,'" Upshaw said. "If they can't swallow what we want now, they are going to have a helluva time next year."

The 2008 draft is the last one agreed to in the CBA. Upshaw said if there is not new agreement, "they can't have a draft." And even though the unrestricted free agency requirement increases from four years to six in an uncapped year, Upshaw said the players want it. But with the average career length just four years, many players will never reach unrestricted free agency.

However, Allen said, once a player gets past his first year in the league, the average career length increases to 5-6 years.

The union and the owners have extended this CBA several times since 1993, but this is the closest it has come to expiring.

Originally published on February 3, 2006

ftwbolt
02-03-2006, 07:12 AM
Broncos owner lays down law
By Mike Klis Denver Post Staff Writer

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3470241

Detroit - To the portion of Broncoland excited about the possibility of landing Terrell Owens, don't get those hopes up just yet.

On the flip side - and when the subject is Owens, there always is a flip side - disgruntled Broncos fans should not yet follow through on vows to cancel season tickets.

"This is a process, and when a player like this becomes available, we just felt like we owed it to ourselves to let him know that at the appropriate time, we might be interested," Broncos owner Pat Bowlen said Thursday. "We're not going to be the only team he visits. The only reason why I think this story created such an uproar was because we were the first ones he talked to."

Owens is expected to soon meet with Kansas City and Miami. The Broncos are not yet convinced Owens is the answer to the team's quest for a two-win improvement in 2006.

After getting so close this year, losing at home in the AFC championship game to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Broncos may be just one playmaker away.

Several Broncos veterans, including recently re-signed center Tom Nalen and safety John Lynch, met to discuss the team's pursuit of Owens, arguably the NFL's best receiver but unquestionably the league's most disruptive personality. The consensus was that it is a good idea because the team has enough veterans to keep T.O. within the boundaries of the team concept.

The player endorsement led Broncos coach Mike Shanahan to meet with Owens and agent Drew Rosenhaus on Monday in Denver. Shanahan's thinking: If the veterans want Owens, he owes it to the veterans to explore the possibilities.

"Obviously, there is concern about character," Bowlen said. "That is why we wanted to talk to him and why we talked to many of our own players. We don't take the character element with a player lightly. If he doesn't conform to the way we do things with the Denver Broncos, then he won't be playing for the Denver Broncos. It's as simple as that."

Before that meeting with Shanahan, Owens was in the Bahamas on vacation with several other NFL players, including Detroit Lions cornerback Dre' Bly.

Owens "told me he was meeting with Shanahan," Bly said. "But he didn't really say more than that. He just said he wants to play and he wants to win."

The meeting was preliminary. It is unlikely Owens' current contract or future dollars were discussed in detail. The meeting was set up so Shanahan could get a read on Owens' commitment.

Owens, who two months ago turned 32, has played for two teams, the San Francisco 49ers and Philadelphia Eagles, and despite his on-field production, his insubordinate behavior is blamed for sending both teams into tailspins.

to seriously pursue Owens will be left to Bowlen and Shanahan. Neither will be available for comment until preparations for the Pro Bowl next weekend in Honolulu.

"If Mike Shanahan is going to do it, he has to believe he can take care of that other side," said TV commentator John Madden, a former Oakland Raiders coach. "(Eagles coach) Andy Reid thought he could take care of that other side. Maybe Terrell Owens is going down the road where he's a rent-a-player. You buy a player for a year."

There are reasons for Denver's interest, but also other reasons the Broncos might cease their pursuit of Owens through trade or as a free agent after his expected release from the Eagles in early March.

The reasons in favor of Owens: The Broncos were not good enough to reach the Super Bowl this season. Owens, a rare talent, is capable of almost single-handedly defeating an opponent.

In a three-year span from 2000-02 with the 49ers, Owens averaged 97 catches and 14 touchdowns. Through seven games with the Eagles this season, Owens was on pace for 107 receptions, 1,744 yards and 13 touchdowns. He didn't achieve those numbers, however, because the Eagles suspended him for the final nine games of the season after his disparaging comments toward the organization and quarterback Donovan McNabb.

Which leads to the case against Owens.

The decision whether
SOUND OFF
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Baby, Jets are a mess

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/story/388167p-329353c.html

Eric Mangini just turned 35. His offensive coordinator Brian Schottenheimer turned 32 in October. What are the Jets doing? Running a day care center for coaches? Experience counts. How are these guys going to command the respect of veteran players? If the Jets didn't hire Mangini, they were set to go with Mike Tice. It has to be reassuring to Jets fans that with 10 openings this year, they were the only team to interview either Mangini or Tice. Such out-of-the-box thinking is why the Jets have won so many Super Bowls. ... Schottenheimer is the son of Chargers coach Marty Schottenheimer, who is a good friend of Jets GM Terry Bradway


FLAG TAGS: Commissioner Paul Tagliabue holds his annual Super Bowl news conference today. He will need his running shoes on to sidestep all the questions about how the NFL started with 10 coaching openings and with only one remaining, the number of minority coaches has remained at six. And with seven of the nine jobs going to first-time NFL head coaches, there is no way to justify the lack of an increase. With all the turnover this year, there will be limited opportunities next year. ... Al Davis, big surprise, has the last opening. The Raiders are waiting to interview Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Wisenhunt. If that doesn't work out, then former Giants coach Jim Fassel could get an interview. Fassel deserves another chance. ... If Terrell Owens is a perfect fit anywhere, it's probably in Denver. He met with the Broncos earlier this week. The Eagles probably would take a couple of used shoulder pads for him. If they can't deal him, they will cut him before $7.5 million in bonuses are due in March.

ftwbolt
02-03-2006, 07:33 AM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/61375.htm

February 3, 2006 -- While Bonnie Bernstein is finished as a CBS Sports sideline reporter, Armen Keteyian could be headed to CBS News, NYP TV Sports has learned.
CBS News and Sports executives confirmed that Bernstein's final broadcast for the network was the AFC Championship Game. Keteyian's situation is not finalized, but he looks headed to news.

"I have nothing at the moment to report on Armen," said CBS News and Sports President Sean McManus.

From his work at HBO's Real Sports, ABC News and Sports Illustrated, Keteyian seems a solid fit to be part of McManus' investigative news team. Keteyian declined comment.

Bernstein, who was CBS Sports' lead sideline reporter on the NFL and NCAA hoops, has wanted to expand her role.

"She really wanted to try new things," said Tony Petitti, CBS Sports' executive vice president. "We didn't want to get in the way of that."

Bernstein, who is working the sideline on Westwood One Radio's Super Bowl coverage, does not have another TV job right now. She did not return a call seeking comment on Wednesday, but yesterday said on WFAN that she is starting her own mentoring business for aspiring broadcasters.

As The Post reported Monday, ESPN's post-Al Michaels Monday Night Football plan is to put Mike Tirico with Joe Theismann and Pardon The Interruption host/Washington Post columnist Tony Kornheiser next year.

While the move has some merit (see The Memo for more), Tirico will be ESPN's fourth choice for play-by-play.

Besides Michaels and CBS' Jim Nantz, ESPN had serious talks with CBS' NFL Today host Greg Gumbel, according to sources. However, those won't be broached again because McManus said, "Greg's home is at CBS Sports."

As for Kornheiser, he said the possible opportunity is "pretty cool," but he doesn't know how good he will be.

"Maybe I would be terrific and maybe I would be terrible and the likelihood is I would be somewhere in between," said Kornheiser, 57, who was a candidate for MNF when Dennis Miller got the gig in 2000.

ESPN will announce its decision on Michaels after the Super Bowl. Almost everyone expects the network to let Michaels out of his eight-year, $32 million Monday Night Football contract. Michaels would then go to NBC to work Sunday nights.

*

It is not often a league takes on its most famous TV analyst. But this week, after the NFL announced it will add a late-season, eight-game Thursday/Sat-urday evening package on the NFL Network, John Madden said he worried about "overexposure."

"Mr. Madden is certainly entitled to his opinion, but if he is worried about overexposure I suggest he reconsider his endorse-ments," said Seth Palansky, the NFL Network's director of communications. "We are offering eight special prime-time games during the run-up to the playoffs which will better serve our fans.''

*

Emmitt Smith, who worked for NFL Network this season, will not return next year.

"We left on good terms and we wish him well in all of his business ventures," Palansky said.

*

With Bill Belichick working on ABC's Super Bowl pregame show, ABC/ESPN's Tom Jackson is hopeful the two can speak. The pair haven't spoken since Jackson said in 2003 that the Patriots players "hate their coach."

"I have the ultimate respect for Bill Belichick," Jackson said. "He has won three of the last four Super Bowls. We have not spoken, but I'm looking forward to his expertise."

ftwbolt
02-04-2006, 08:27 AM
It looks like Godfrey has made up his mind to retire, which creates an opening in the middle. Should make it easier to get Leber resigned !

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/football/13791943.htm

Chargers linebacker Randall Godfrey said he is calling it quits after 10 NFL seasons.
Godfrey said Friday that he soon will sign a one-day contract with the Cowboys, so he can finish his career where he started it.
Godfrey started his career with the Cowboys in 1996 before leaving in 2000 for a three-year stint with the Titans. He played for the Seahawks in 2003.

ftwbolt
02-04-2006, 07:45 PM
Posted on Sat, Feb. 04, 2006

http://www.contracostatimes.com/mld/cctimes/sports/columnists/eric_gilmore/13791586.htm

His interview Wednesday on ESPN was winding down. But there was still time for Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb to offer some words of wisdom to teams considering a trade for Eagles wide receiver Terrell Owens.
"Good luck," McNabb said, cracking a huge smile.
Good luck?
What we needed was a bubble over McNabb's head -- as if he were a character in the comics -- with his real advice to any coach or team owner thinking about adding the NFL's "Terrell-ble" one.
It might go something like this:
"Are you out of your mind? Are you crazy? Don't do it! T.O. will divide your locker room and tear your team apart.
"He'll turn on his teammates, especially his quarterback."
Or something like that.
Of course it doesn't matter what McNabb says or what Owens' history with the 49ers and Eagles tells us.
It doesn't matter that Owens turned into a sour, self-centered, divisive prima donna in San Francisco.
That he turned on McNabb, as he had turned on former 49ers quarterback Jeff Garcia. That he put his contract demands ahead of his Philadelphia teammates' needs.
That he became so disruptive that Eagles coach Andy Reid suspended him for four games, then put him on the inactive list for the final five games.
Teams already are lining up to talk to Owens and Drew Rosenhaus, his slippery agent, about potential trades. Just as we knew they would.
Because if you can play, if you have immense talent, as Owens does, then there's always another sucker ready to give you another chance in the NFL.
Reid and the Eagles thought they could handle Owens. They did, for the most part, for one season. Then Owens reverted to form, and Reid realized he had underestimated T.O.'s destructive force.
Now some other coach and some other team undoubtedly will make the same costly miscalculation.
Earlier this week, Owens and Rosenhaus met with Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan in Denver.
Shanahan already is getting some bad advice from some of his Broncos players.
"I'd take T.O.," Broncos center Tom Nalen told the Denver Post. "If it would work anywhere, I think it would work here because of the guys in the locker room. Guys would keep him straight. ... I think he'd conform. He'd fit in here."
Conform? Fit in? Owens follows his own rules. There may not be an "I" in team or in Terrell Owens, but a more appropriate spelling of his name would be IIIIIII IIIII.
This guy is football fool's gold, shiny enough to tempt many of the NFL's wisest coaches, executives and players.
Kansas City Chiefs president Carl Peterson told the Kansas City Star that the Chiefs were "somewhat interested" in Owens.
New Chiefs coach Herm Edwards weighed in on the possibility of acquiring T.O.
"I can deal with any type of player because I've been in this league a long time," Edwards told the Star. "I understand players pretty well. I can communicate to them. I've had them all call me ... Randy Moss, all of them.
"One thing about America is that it gives people second chances. Sometimes you get a third."
As Edwards once said to reporters in New York, "Hell-ooo!" Edwards has never dealt with a player like Owens, a player so self-absorbed and delusional.
When Owens gets a new job, it actually will mark his fourth chance in the NFL, if you count the Baltimore Ravens, a team that had Owens briefly before he forced them to trade him to the Eagles.
Giving troublemakers and head cases multiple chances is a tradition in the NFL and in American professional sports in general.
Ron Artest has a list of transgressions -- fines, suspensions, etc. -- longer than his inseam. That didn't stop the Sacramento Kings from trading for him. A majority of NBA teams, including the Warriors, considered acquiring him.
Former Warrior Latrell Sprewell choked his coach, P.J. Carlesimo. That didn't keep the New York Knicks from acquiring Sprewell.
Some team is always ready to give a bad actor a second, third or fourth chance, whether it's Milton Bradley, John Rocker, Sidney Ponson or Lawrence Phillips.
Owens hasn't assaulted anyone, hasn't been arrested, hasn't been ordered to undergo anger management counseling.
All he did was sabotage an Eagles team that had reached four straight NFC title games.
No wonder so many suckers are ready to give T.O. another chance.

ftwbolt
02-05-2006, 12:54 PM
http://www.nypost.com/sports/62965.htm

By KEN PALMER February 5, 2006 -- 'Aggressive, fiery' Jet OC will look downfield
GOAL LINE STAND BRIAN Schottenheimer knows a little about adversity. Having beaten thyroid cancer that required surgery before the 2004 season, the new Jets offensive coordinator should have no problem staring down and dissecting a defense.
"The way he's carried himself and his demeanor, I always knew he'd be a coordinator and eventually a head coach some day," Chargers left tackle Roman Oben told The Post. "He'll be a head coach in no more than five years. He's definitely qualified. He's every bit as good as Jim Mora Jr. He's aggressive and fiery. He definitely has an ego."

Oben says Schottenheimer isn't in the business of making friends, a pitfall that cuts countless coordinators off at the knees.

"He doesn't care if you like him or not," Oben said. "He'll treat everyone equal and definitely make his presence known."

The 32-year-old Schottenheimer, who spent the last four years coaching the Chargers' signal-callers, knew he wasn't going to be promoted to offensive coordinator in San Diego any time soon and figured the time was right for a career move.

In New York, expect to see a lot of running and vertical passing from Schottenheimer's offense. Vertical passing, of course, is designed to hit receivers running downfield in stride, a philosophy made famous by the Rams in recent years. Don't expect much West Coast offense or ****s and dunks, according to those close to Schottenheimer, who declined to be interviewed for this article.

"I think he's a very smart offensive-minded coach," Oben, the former Giant, added. "He's very good with QBs and very good at seeing the whole field. He has great football knowledge and really helped Drew a lot. I think he'll do a great job."

One key criterion for a Schottenheimer offense is an excellent tight end, which he clearly had in San Diego with Antonio Gates. However, the Jets currently boast only Doug Jolley, an average receiver at best, and free agent Chris Baker. It's safe to say a tight end is high on their offseason shopping list.

One San Diego source didn't exactly reflect positively on Schottenheimer, however, telling The Post he didn't run his quarterbacks with precision and pointing out that Doug Flutie reportedly didn't have much good to say during his time with Schottenheimer.

However, most reviews have been positive.

"He's as hard a worker as I've been around," Chargers offensive coordinator Cam Cameron said. "I think players in this league really respond to that. I think if you look at the development of those guys, you'll see what he brings to the table. Just look at how players play. That will tell you exactly about the guy that is coaching them. I think the play of our quarterbacks speaks volumes to the job that Brian has done."

[B]BIG BLUE CHIPPERS

One NFC scout took a few stabs at which players would be good fits for Big Blue with the 25th-overall pick in April's draft. Needless to say, all candidates are defensive backs.

Clemson cornerback Tye Hill: Did very well at the Senior Bowl. Great cover guy. Might be a little short (5-9), but can play.

Georgia cornerback DeMario Minter: Has only decent speed, but is a good hitter.

Texas cornerback Cedric Griffin: In a word, a playmaker.

Penn State cornerback Alan Zemaitis: Has good size (6-2, 201) and ball skills.

Tennessee safety Jason Allen: Had a hip injury, which forced him to miss some time last season. Might be a diamond in the rough.

BATES' REBUFF

The Bills eventually settled on former Bears DBs coach Perry Fewell to be their defensive coordinator, mostly because former Packers DC Jim Bates priced himself out of their range. Bates could have had the Bills job for $850,000, but wanted more money, even though that figure would have been a raise from what he was getting in Green Bay.

Bates saw the $2 million salary Al Saunders received to be the Redskins' offensive coordinator and wanted money in that ballpark. That's obviously not going to work considering that new head coach Dick Jauron is making less than two mill a year.

SAN FRANCISCO TREAT

It appears as if Niners owner John York is planning to make good on his promise to coach Mike Nolan. When Nolan took over before the 2005 season, York assured he'd hire an extra "football guy" in the front office to help Nolan and VP of Player Personnel Scott McCloughan. The exact title of the "team president" post has yet to be determined, but Nolan and York already have interviewed Seahawks VP/football administration Mike Reinfeldt and Falcons executive VP/chief administrative officer Ray Anderson for the vacancy.

THEY HIRED HIM?

This query comes from a perplexed member of the 49ers organization: How in the world did Mike McCarthy land the head-coaching job in Green Bay after his only 49ers offense finished a distant 32nd in the league last season while producing the fifth-fewest total yards (3,587) since the league expanded to a 16-game schedule in 1978?

ftwbolt
02-06-2006, 11:48 AM
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1139205503120600.xml&coll=1&thispage=3

AFC EAST

JETS: It remains unclear who's running the show. Is thin-skinned GM Terry Bradway the main man or Eric Mangini, his 35-year-old head coach. Did Mangini hire a 32-year-old offensive coordinator, Brian Schottenheimer, so he would feel comfortable overseeing someone younger? Or was that Bradway's influence, hiring the son of one of his former cronies in Kansas City?

And why wasn't Mangini at the Senior Bowl practices with Bradway? Shouldn't they have been together getting to know one another better, with Mangini pointing out the type of players he favors? It's all very strange.

Anyway, Mangini isn't Super Bowl-bound right off the bat. The kid doesn't even know who his QB is yet. Not a good way to start.

Patriots: Anyone want to bet against them next year? Didn't think so. Bill Belichick and personnel guru Scott Pioli will find a way to get better at running back, which is all QB Tom Brady needs to show three titles in four years from 2001-04 weren't a fluke. The defense, with Belichick overseeing it all, won't miss Mangini a bit.

Dolphins: Beware of the Nick Sabans, for sure. But until their QB is not named Gus Frerotte, it'll be hard to be too frightened.

Bills: Sure wish Marv Levy had hired a coach with an offensive background instead of retread Dick Jauron. Buffalo wants to win with J.P. Losman running the offense and they need for him to make a quantum leap.

AFC NORTH

Bengals: It all depends upon QB Carson Palmer, who sustained a devastating knee injury in the playoffs. He may not even be ready by mid-season. Even if he is, will it take him more than a year from then to be back in form? If he is, Cincy's a contender. If not, the Bengals will be about shooting for XLII.

Ravens: QB Kyle Boller finally showed a few flashes at the end of the season, though he still has a long way to go. Meanwhile, the defense isn't as ferocious as it once was. Coach Brian Billick is on the hot seat already, fortunate not to be fired at the end of the season. GM Ozzie Newsome is shopping for receivers and maybe even a RB to replace a slowed-down Jamal Lewis.

Browns: Coach Romeo Crennel has given the team to QB Charlie Frye, who did commendably as a rookie in the second half of the season. A consistent runner would help, as would a healthy Kellen Winslow Jr. at TE. But Cleveland in the Super Bowl? Uh, no.

AFC SOUTH

Colts: We'd start by re-signing free-agent RB Edgerrin James. Indy finds a way to do that, the Peyton Mannings will be fine. We thought the home-field advantage in the playoffs was all they needed to be playing tonight but we were wrong. We'll take our chances with the same scenario next season.

Jaguars: QB Byron Leftwich still is refining his game and should be worth the wait. A pass-catching tight end would help him enormously, as would a younger pair of legs at running back then the ones carrying Fred Taylor.

Titans: It's good that coach Jeff Fisher, like Steelers coach Bill Cowher, gets to ride out the down years to retool the team himself. Keeping QB Steve McNair in the fold by restructuring his contract is the right place to start. Adding quality on the offensive line to keep him healthier is the next step for a team still a couple of years away.

Texans: Hiring Gary Kubiak as their coach was a good first step. Sticking with QB David Carr would be another. You can't just give up on guys who were worth the No. 1 pick in the draft, like, yesterday. Now just take RB Reggie Bush to go with him, draft and/or sign an offensive line to protect them, and give Kubiak a chance to coach them all up a little bit. Like, for a couple of years.

AFC WEST

Broncos: They made it to the AFC Championship Game with QB Jake Plummer making great strides all season. He's the man for Mike Shanahan, for better or worse. Signing a threat like T.O. could be a good, one-year fit, although we'll always be waiting for the first anti-Plummer explosion. Teams do sell their souls to get to a Super Bow. See: the Eagles.

Chargers: San Diego holds its breath, waiting to see how QB Drew Brees recovers from shoulder surgery. If he's not 100 percent by the start of the season, the Bolts will hold their breath on Philip Rivers. Eli Manning has taken a team to the playoffs. Ben Roethlisberger was in the Super Bowl. The guy taken between the two of them hasn't even started a game yet. Can he pick up where Brees left off, if needed?

Chiefs: Herman Edwards inherits a ready-made offense with a star running back, Larry Johnson. Now the world watches to see what he can do with that soft defense, which can't tackle or cover anyone. Defensive backs are supposed to be his specialty, so we'll see. Keep an eye out for Edwards trying to acquire Jets free-agent DE John Abraham, too, via a trade if he's slapped with the franchise tag again.

Raiders: They haven't even offered their coaching job to anyone yet. Our advice when they finally do: Don't take it! Working for Oakland under owner Al Davis is no place to spend a few losing years, which is where this team is headed. Add volatile WR Randy Moss to the mix, and you're just asking for trouble.


Whisenhunt to talk

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/steelerslive/s_421003.html

The Associated Press reported yesterday that the Oakland Raiders plan to interview Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt in the coming days for their head coaching vacancy.

Whisenhunt could move to the top of the team's list if the meeting goes well.

Whisenhunt will follow Al Saunders, James Lofton and Rod Marinelli in formally interviewing with the Raiders.

Oakland also held an informal talk with former St. Louis Rams coach Mike Martz, although nothing came of that meeting. Martz, however, wasn't someone Davis considered a candidate for the top job but, perhaps, for offensive coordinator.

Whisenhunt is in his ninth season as an NFL coach and second in charge of the Steelers offense after working the previous three years as the team's tight ends coach.

Since meeting with the Raiders last month, Saunders left the Kansas City Chiefs to become offensive coordinator of the Washington Redskins. Marinelli, the former defensive line coach in Tampa Bay, became the Detroit Lions' new head coach.

Lofton, a Hall of Fame receiver who coaches the San Diego Chargers' receivers, is the only minority candidate to interview.

ftwbolt
02-07-2006, 11:47 AM
Tuesday, February 07, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff

http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1139292614267780.xml&coll=1

The Jets and the representatives for three-time Pro Bowl defensive end John Abraham have had no discussions on a long-term deal since the season ended and it appears the club will place the franchise tag on him for a second consecutive season, according to someone with knowledge of the situation.

Such a move likely would make for a tense relationship between the club and Abraham next season, especially after GM Terry Bradway said last August he would attempt to sign Abraham to a long-term deal if the player stayed healthy and was productive over an entire 16-game schedule.

"We've said all along that we want John here for a long time, and that's something we'll work on," Bradway said when Abraham reported to training camp on Aug. 29 after refusing to sign his one-year, $6.67 million franchise tender offer until then.

The one-year, franchise tender offer for a defensive end this season is $8.3 million. Clubs can place the franchise tag on players from Feb. 9 through Feb. 23. Should the Jets put the tag on Abraham, they will have paid him nearly $15 million over two years without having a long-term deal.

Abraham's agents, Tony Agnone and Rich Rosa, were unavailable for comment yesterday. Bradway doesn't discuss contract matters.

"The Jets said they would take care of John if he stayed healthy but there have been no talks," said the person. "John's camp feels that the Jets have lied to him and it's personal. They feel Terry Bradway and (assistant GM) Mike Tannenbaum just don't like John. They didn't draft him, and they just don't think he's a great player and they don't want to pay him.

"Plus, they have all that money tied up into Chad Pennington ($22 million over the past two seasons) and he may not even pass his physical this spring. Now, they're scared to pay John."

Last season, Abraham had 70 tackles, 10 1/2 sacks, six forced fumbles (all on quarterback strips) and one fumble recovery.

He played in nearly 85 percent of the defensive snaps and improved his play against the run after bulking up to 265 pounds.

Entering last season, Abraham hadn't played an entire 16-game schedule since 2002 and the Jets used that as leverage in not signing him to a long-term deal.

Signing Abraham to a long-term deal would figure to be a priority for new head coach Eric Mangini, who is expected to employ a base 3-4 defense with the flexibility of using multiple fronts.

Abraham said last season that he would skip training camp again if the Jets put the franchise tag on him and he wouldn't be happy when he reported.

If the Jets slap Abraham with the franchise tag, they may try to trade him and one destination could be San Diego in a deal for quarterback Philip Rivers, especially with former Chargers quarterback coach Brian Schottenheimer having been hired as the Jets new offensive coordinator.

If I'm the Chargers, I dont make this deal !!!!

SuperMatt
02-07-2006, 12:02 PM
I don't know why the Chargers would make a deal like that? Abraham is a great talent, but where do you put a guy like that on the Chargers? Is he an improvement over Castillo, Olshansky or Williams? No. Is he an improvement over Foley, Merriman or Phillips? Doubt it.

foober
02-07-2006, 12:10 PM
That rumor sounds like a pipe dream. the jits want to get rid of abraham and they really want Rivers.

if new york wants Rivers they can just give the chargers the 4th pick and possibly an o-lineman we maybe can maybe do a deal.

ftwbolt
02-07-2006, 01:50 PM
I don't know why the Chargers would make a deal like that? Abraham is a great talent, but where do you put a guy like that on the Chargers? Is he an improvement over Castillo, Olshansky or Williams? No. Is he an improvement over Foley, Merriman or Phillips? Doubt it.

I think Marty jr is delusional, that his Dad or A.J. would even consider such a trade.
Maybe if they throw in a Draft choice, A.J. will think about it.:)

BoltsfanNYC
02-07-2006, 07:51 PM
i think for abraham it is not happening... but for ty law... a 2 in06 and 1st in 07... we would consider it.

Ikeman83
02-07-2006, 07:54 PM
No way, maybe for Law, a 1 in 06, and a 2 in 07, combined with a heavily restructured Rivers contract. Otherwise... HELL NO!

Boltjolt
02-07-2006, 08:12 PM
Not a chance they consider that

Ikeman83
02-07-2006, 08:16 PM
which is exactly why it isn't happening...

ftwbolt
02-08-2006, 11:22 AM
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?/base/sports-0/1139382050217310.xml&coll=1

Wednesday, February 08, 2006
BY DAVE HUTCHINSON
Star-Ledger Staff
HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- New general manager Mike Tannenbaum extended an olive branch to three-time Pro Bowl DE John Abraham yesterday, but Abraham's future with the club remains in doubt.

People close to Abraham say he wants out because the Jets continue to drag their feet regarding a long-term deal and there are several teams reportedly interested in the unrestricted free agent, including the Chargers, Redskins, Browns and Texans.

"I've known John since 2000. I think he's matured as a person and improved as a player," Tannenbaum said yesterday. "I think he deserves a lot of credit for playing the entire 2005 season, all 16 games."

The Jets are expected to place the franchise tag ($8.3 million) on Abraham this month (they have from tomorrow until Feb. 23) and then try to trade him, according to someone with knowledge of the situation.

Tannenbaum, who spoke with Bill Parcells yesterday, said he'll hire a salary-cap specialist to handle the day-to-day operations.

The Jets are roughly $25 million over the projected $95 million salary cap but have several big-ticket players who they can ask to rework their deals, including QB Chad Pennington ($15 million), CB Ty Law ($11 million), WR Laveranues Coles ($10 million) and RB Curtis Martin ($8.1 million).

Law, however, will certainly not return, freeing up his $11 million.

Terry Bradway dismissed the notion that he spent too much time with his family in South Jersey and was an absentee GM.

"I spent as much time in this building as anybody. I was here. It didn't affect my job," he said.

Bradway, who has two years left on his contract and his "consultant" position is open-ended, said his only regret is not winning a championship. He also said he's not haunted by the 2003 raid by the Redskins (WR Laveranues Coles, G Randy Thomas, K John Hall and KR Chad Morton) because the two teams have similar records over the past three seasons -- Washington is 21-27 and the Jets are 20-28.

Bradway pointed out that the Jets finished 6-10 in 2003 because of an injury to Pennington, not because of losing the four free agents.

Tannenbaum, who turns 37 next week, was recommended to Parcells in 1997 by Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli, both of whom worked with Tannenbaum in Cleveland. ... Berkeley Heights, Florham Park, Jersey City, Millburn and Wood-Ridge are the five finalists for the Jets' new practice facility.

loweezy
02-08-2006, 11:25 AM
hmm. "The Jets are roughly $25 million over the projected $95 million salary cap but have several big-ticket players who they can ask to rework their deals, including QB Chad Pennington ($15 million), CB Ty Law ($11 million), WR Laveranues Coles ($10 million) and RB Curtis Martin ($8.1 million).

Law, however, will certainly not return, freeing up his $11 million."

so, we wouldn't have to trade for law... but he is pretty expensive. imo not worth the money

ftwbolt
02-08-2006, 12:03 PM
Everybody's favorite Agent is in a little bit of Do-Do :rolleyes:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/07/AR2006020701780.html

Wednesday, February 8, 2006;

The attorney for LaVar Arrington 's agent filed a response to the NFL Players Association denying the union's claims that Arrington's representatives were negligent in dealing with the linebacker's 2003 contract extension with the Washington Redskins and asking that the union's top attorney be removed from the case.

Carl Poston , who could face a suspension or even be barred from practicing as a player agent, represents Arrington and a host of high-profile NFL stars, including perennial Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law and linebacker Julian Peterson . He is being accused by the players' union of failing to ensure that a $6.5 million bonus clause was part of the eight-year, $68 million contract extension Arrington signed with the Redskins in December 2003. It is one of five complaints the union had leveled at Poston, the other four being Poston's alleged failure to cooperate with the union's ensuing investigation, his failure to report a violation of the contract, concealing contract information from the player and fraud.

"Carl expects to prevail and be vindicated," said Poston's lawyer, Paul Aloe . Aloe said in his response to the union that he requested the complaint be dismissed and that Richard Berthelsen , the attorney for the NFLPA, withdraw from the case for various conflicts of interest. The response also argues that the NFLPA has prosecuted the case inappropriately, and requests an in-person hearing.

An eight-member committee that handles disciplinary actions against agents will hear the case against Poston on Feb. 22 and a ruling against Poston could be rendered within the month.

The bonus money had been a point of contention between Arrington and the Redskins. Berthelsen could not be reached for comment yesterday.


Whisenhunt to interview with Raiders

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports//s_421758.html

By Joe Bendel
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Wednesday, February 8, 2006


Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt will interview today for the head coaching position with the Oakland Raiders, a day after celebrating the Steelers' Super Bowl XL victory at a downtown parade Tuesday.
Whisenhunt, 43, elevated his status around the league this season due to his work with Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and his ability to blend the Steelers' run-pass game so effectively.

His sleight-of-hand play-call that led to a 43-yard touchdown pass from wideout Antwaan Randle El to wideout Hines Ward in Sunday's 21-10 Super Bowl win over the Seattle Seahawks highlighted his knack for calling unexpected plays at just the right moment.

Whisenhunt will become the sixth candidate to interview with Raiders owner Al Davis, following Al Saunders, James Lofton, Rod Marinelli, John Shoop and Art Shell, a former Raiders player who was fired as the Raiders' head coach in '94 after posting a winning percentage of .587.

There were 10 head coaching vacancies after the regular season, but the Raiders' position is the only one that remains open. The Raiders could not contact Whisenhunt until after the Super Bowl, per NFL rules.

There is a chance Whisenhunt will bypass the opportunity with the Raiders and wait until more jobs are available next season. The Raiders are expected to pay in the $1.5 million range, while other franchise's pay upwards of $5 million. Oakland hasn't had a winning season since 2002, the longest stretch of futility for Davis since he took over in '63, and has won just nine games the past two seasons.


http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/sports/13817106.htm

• The Dolphins have given indications to No. 3 QB Cleo Lemon that they would like to keep him around this offseason, though he's not a serious contender for the backup job. But free agent Sage Rosenfels has taken a hint and will look elsewhere.

• The Canes are still trying to convince San Diego Chargers tight ends coach Rob Chudzinski to return as offensive coordinator.

ftwbolt
02-08-2006, 12:36 PM
Hawaii game provides week of close-ups with potential upgrades

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
February 8, 2006
HONOLULU - Since Mike Shanahan had Terrell Owens sitting in his living room last week, it's clear the Denver Broncos coach already has his mind on what he could do to the roster in the coming months.
And this week on Oahu, he also gets a look at some of the best players the upcoming free-agency season might have to offer. Shanahan and the rest of the Broncos staff are coaching the AFC team for the Pro Bowl on Sunday.

"I think it's great to spend time being around players who are Pro Bowl players, see how they handle themselves," Shanahan said. "See how they work in an environment where they don't have to work."

Owens, who was suspended for the final seven games of the Philadelphia Eagles season, is not in the Pro Bowl, but Shanahan is sketching plans on what the Broncos can do to improve on their 13-3 regular season that ended with a loss in the AFC Championship Game against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

His first step has been to bring in Owens, the embattled receiver who has alienated his past two teams, the San Francisco 49ers and the Eagles, for a get-acquainted meeting.

Shanahan said he will not comment on Owens' visit other than to admit it happened.

"I'm just not going to talk about any of it," he said. "I'm not going down that road."

But with Indianapolis Colts running back Edgerrin James, Tennessee Titans defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch and Minnesota Vikings receiver Koren Robinson in the Pro Bowl, it's clear the Broncos and the Carolina Panthers coaching staffs - John Fox is coaching the NFC team - will have a jump on things when free agency opens March 3.

The Broncos internally have discussed trying to upgrade the running game and their outside speed in the pass rush and finding more impact at receiver.

Owens, who still is on the Eagles roster but has permission to seek partners for a potential trade, got the first visit.

But James also soon could be on the market. The running back said during Super Bowl week he didn't expect to be back with Indianapolis next season, especially because the Colts are expected to use the franchise player designation on receiver Reggie Wayne, who will be a free agent if they don't.

Indianapolis used the tag, which holds the player to a one-year contract for the average of what the top 10 players at the position earn, on James this past season.

"When you go out and play, you want to play with who you're comfortable with," James said. "But at the same time, you don't want to say, 'I want to play here because I won't have success anywhere else.' I want to play; I want it to be the right way. Just like (Colts quarterback Peyton Manning, left tackle Tarik Glenn and receiver Marvin Harrison) went out and earned theirs, I want to go out and earn mine.

"(The Colts) went out and did things for everybody else. That's what I want to be like. I want to earn this right to be there. Not say, 'OK, I need to be here.' "

James added he would be open to the Broncos or anyone else and said, "When I get to wherever I'm going, I'll be ready do my thing."

James, like Owens, has Miami-based Drew Rosenhaus as his agent.

"I just want to get what's right," James said. "Everybody knows my take on everything. I earn mine, I don't need anybody to go out there and (lobby). I'm a grown man. I don't need anybody to do this or do that. It feels better when you earn it, that's why I work so hard. I don't want a handout."

Shanahan also will get a close look at Vanden Bosch, who overcame knee surgeries early in his career to put together a 12 1/2-sack season in 2005 for a 4-12 team. Vanden Bosch, who signed a one-year contract with the Titans before the past season for $770,000, was one of the best free-agent finds.

He was a late add to the AFC roster and is an injury replacement for Jason Taylor of the Miami Dolphins.

Robinson, a former first-round pick by the Seattle Seahawks with a troubled past, also will be on the market. Robinson, who spent 28 days last year in an alcohol rehabilitation facility in South Carolina, said he's hoping for the best in his rebound.

He's willing to play anywhere, he said Tuesday, but the North Carolina native added playing for the home-state Panthers would be "a dream of mine."

"These guys are Pro Bowl players, they do little things the right way," Shanahan said. "It gives you a chance to get to know people when you've been watching them for a number of years.

"You don't always get a chance to get to know them in the coaching profession. You get to see them on a day-to-day basis for a week."

The Broncos' biggest impediment will be the salary cap. The team is about $20 million over what is expected to be $89 million to $90 million per team in 2006.

That limits what the Broncos can offer over the long term to players such as Owens, James or anyone else who might be looking for more.

Asked if the players could get to know him a little better as well this week, Shanahan laughed and said, "I think so. It's a two-way street. They get to find out if I'm the jerk they thought I was."

ftwbolt
02-09-2006, 10:54 AM
Hit on Steelers' Ward in AFC championship game slows veteran safety

http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_3489167

By Mike Klis
Denver Post Staff Writer

Honolulu - There was more to the potential season-altering play than cornerback Champ Bailey missing the interception.

Flash back to the Broncos' nightmare that was the AFC championship game, the fifth play by the Pittsburgh Steelers. Bailey wasn't just covering Steelers receiver Hines Ward, he was wearing him like an overcoat.

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger threw to Ward anyway. The pass was so bad it seemed to startle Bailey, who allowed the ball to get in on his pads.

Instead of picking off the pass with nothing but luscious Invesco Field at Mile High grass between him and the end zone, Bailey saw the ball bounce away. There's one whammy.

Ward followed the deflection and caught it for a 7-yard gain. Double-whammy. Then Broncos safety John Lynch charged in and laid out Ward with a ferocious lick. Only now for the untold portion of the story: Lynch suffered a severe charley horse on his inside left quadriceps, just above the knee.

The bruise ballooned instantly and left Lynch to finish the game in an ineffective limp. Triple-whammy. How many times was a blitzing Lynch closing in on Roethlisberger just as the quarterback got rid of the ball for another third-down completion?

Talk about a series of unfortunate events, all on one play.

"It was a problem, but that's football," Lynch, at the Pro Bowl, said of his injury. "Could I have gotten there? I don't know. He was throwing so quick, too."

Instead of Bailey giving the Broncos a 7-0 lead, instead of a healthy Lynch helping the Broncos overcome that missed opportunity, the Steelers went on to win the Super Bowl and send 13-year running back Jerome Bettis off into ecstatic retirement.

Lynch, who was selected 72 picks behind Bettis in the 1993 draft, would have to settle for his seventh Pro Bowl selection and a career that is not finished 13 years later.

"It makes you sick. But, hey, they beat us," said Lynch, who still was sporting a nasty bruise Wednesday before the AFC team's Pro Bowl practice. "Now we're here, and life is good again."
Lynch will be back for a 14th season, his third with the Broncos. He turns 35 in September.

"I think he's got a lot more in him," said Ronde Barber, Lynch's longtime defensive backfield teammate with Tampa Bay. "It's not that John can't do anything else, but football's in his blood. I think he's one of those guys who based on what he's accomplished and the fact he's become so established, he'll be like Jerome in that he'll go out on his own terms."

As a concession to the relatively advanced age of not only Lynch, but safety partner Nick Ferguson, who turns 32 in November, the Broncos may use one of their two first-round draft picks this April on a safety. But even if this possibility becomes a reality, the rookie safety shouldn't develop a case of first- round ego.

The plan is for Lynch to start and play just about every down in 2006 while the kid safety gets at least a year, if not two, to develop through watching.

"You evaluate this game year by year and right now, the evaluation on John is he's playing at a high level," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said.



Be careful, Dawkins tells Owens' suitors"

Any time you have something that can affect your team and your locker room, you might want to stay away from it," he said.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/13825267.htm

By Pat YasinskasFor The InquirerHONOLULU - Eagles safety Brian Dawkins cautioned the Denver Broncos yesterday about making a deal for receiver Terrell Owens.
"I wouldn't go there," Dawkins said after the NFC squad's Pro Bowl practice.
The Eagles have given Owens permission to seek a trade, and Denver is one of several teams reported to be interested. But Dawkins said the Broncos and any other team interested in Owens should be careful.
"Just be prepared for whatever," Dawkins said to a Denver reporter. "He's a great guy as far as a person goes, but he says what's on his mind, so you've got to be prepared for whatever."
Owens and the Eagles have been at odds since the receiver asked for a new contract before last season. The situation grew heated as Owens took verbal shots at quarterback Donovan McNabb and others and was banished by the Eagles.
Dawkins was asked if one player could "poison" a locker room.
"Yeah, you saw what happened this year," he said. "It can happen. It starts to filter through. Different opinions are given out, and things happen that shouldn't happen."
Dawkins said those problems would follow Owens to a new team.
"Any time you have something that can affect your team and your locker room, you might want to stay away from it," Dawkins said.
Eagles linebacker Jeremiah Trotter, also a member of the NFC Pro Bowl team, refused to discuss the Owens situation.
"We're focused on 2006," Trotter said. "We need to get everybody healthy, and once we do that, we'll be fine."
As the Owens saga played out, the Eagles struggled to a 6-10 record and had their streak of four straight appearances in the NFC championship game come to an end. Dawkins said the Eagles could bounce back.
"First of all, we need to just wash our hands of the situation," Dawkins said. "Hopefully, Donovan got what he wanted to get off his chest off his chest, and we'll get to minicamp and start playing ball again."
Dawkins said he supported McNabb's criticism of Owens last week.
"He had to get something off his chest," Dawkins said. "It was something that festered for a long time, and he felt this was the time he wanted to do it, and he did it. It's over and done with, and we've got to go on from there."
Dawkins said the Eagles' locker room could be made harmonious next season.
"That's something that we as players will do," he said. "We'll get together... and we'll keep playing. The thing about playing football is, when you start winning, all that other stuff goes in the back window.
"If we were winning last year, none of that stuff would have happened and none of those comments would have been made."

RAWDOGG
02-09-2006, 12:39 PM
JETS AND CHARGERS TO ANNOUNCE BLOCKBUSTER
DE-Abraham To San Diego - QB-Rivers To New York

The DinoCosta Show has learned through an exclusive source that the NY Jets & San Diego Chargers are set to make a Blockbuster trade.

The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. Rivers has been stuck behind Chargers quarterback Drew Brees the last two seasons, and will be re-uniting with former Chargers asst. Brian Schottenheimer who was recently named the Jets offensive coordinator. Schottenheimer is planning to install an offensive system that is similar in design to the Chargers current system - a system that Rivers is comfortable in and familiar with. Abraham has been miffed that the Jets haven't given him a new contract after proving that he could play an entire 16 game schedule as he did last year. The Chargers will slide Abraham nicely into their 3-4 defense that will also feature Shawne Merriman, providing San Diego with a terrific twosome that will give the rest of the AFC West fits. This trade makes sense for both teams and makes the Chargers "quiet" signing of quarterback A.J. Feeley last season something that was apparently done with the long term in mind. A big question for the Jets is what will they do with current quarterback Chad Pennington...should he be successful in returning from major shoulder surgery for a second time.

RAWDOGG
02-09-2006, 12:40 PM
Sorry for the white text

ftwbolt
02-09-2006, 12:54 PM
JETS AND CHARGERS TO ANNOUNCE BLOCKBUSTER
DE-Abraham To San Diego - QB-Rivers To New York

The DinoCosta Show has learned through an exclusive source that the NY Jets & San Diego Chargers are set to make a Blockbuster trade.

The Chargers will send quarterback Philip Rivers, the 4th overall pick in the 2004 NFL draft, to the Jets, in return for pass rushing defensive end John Abraham. Rivers has been stuck behind Chargers quarterback Drew Brees the last two seasons, and will be re-uniting with former Chargers asst. Brian Schottenheimer who was recently named the Jets offensive coordinator. Schottenheimer is planning to install an offensive system that is similar in design to the Chargers current system - a system that Rivers is comfortable in and familiar with. Abraham has been miffed that the Jets haven't given him a new contract after proving that he could play an entire 16 game schedule as he did last year. The Chargers will slide Abraham nicely into their 3-4 defense that will also feature Shawne Merriman, providing San Diego with a terrific twosome that will give the rest of the AFC West fits. This trade makes sense for both teams and makes the Chargers "quiet" signing of quarterback A.J. Feeley last season something that was apparently done with the long term in mind. A big question for the Jets is what will they do with current quarterback Chad Pennington...should he be successful in returning from major shoulder surgery for a second time.




Is there a link to this story ?

Ikeman83
02-09-2006, 02:04 PM
Posted in another thread by me:

I heard Rivers is growing a second body out of his shoulder like Ash in the "Evil Dead" series and that we're going to trade the "Evil Rivers" to the Jets while hanging onto the "Good Rivers". This development is cutting the cost of moving Rivers in half, while allowing the Bolts to get NY's 1st rounder and Abraham, who they plan to use as trade bait for Bigfoot to come down from the CFL.

Says Evil Rivers, "You'll never get the Necronomicon!"

netsroc123
02-09-2006, 05:54 PM
i see this trade, straight up, on many websites. i hope it isn't true. we could get more for rivers then john abraham (DE - NYJ) rivers for vilma would be ok though

BoltFiend
02-09-2006, 05:57 PM
i see this trade, straight up, on many websites. i hope it isn't true. we could get more for rivers then john abraham (DE - NYJ) rivers for vilma would be ok though

AJ said Rivers isn't going anywhere.

guimcharger
02-09-2006, 06:06 PM
That trade isn't anywhere near being true because we don't need another OLB. We already got Foley, Merriman, Phillips, and Leber (Maybe). Abraham is too small to play DE in our scheme. All he would be is a over priced situational guy. If Rivers is traded anywhere it would be for either high draft picks or a impact guy in the secondary.

ftwbolt
02-10-2006, 07:32 AM
Offensive coach withdraws name from Oakland job
Friday, February 10, 2006

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06041/653183.stm

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Ken Whisenhunt delayed his trip by a day to Oakland, Calif., to interview for the Raiders' head coaching job so he could experience the Steelers victory parade Tuesday.

There, he heard something that stuck with him the whole time he was in Oakland Wednesday.

"Don't go to Oakland, please come back," fans in the crowd said over and over to him.

"That's in the back of your mind," Whisenhunt said. "People are that passionate about football. It's hard to leave."

So he won't. Whisenhunt yesterday withdrew his name from consideration for the head coaching job of the Oakland Raiders. Although Raiders executives say they never offered him the job, it's one he could have had if he wanted it.

Whisenhunt, the Steelers' offensive coordinator, spent most of Wednesday in Oakland discussing the job with Al Davis, the Raiders' managing partner, and football operations head Michael Lombardi. He returned to Pittsburgh on a red-eye flight yesterday, but his agent, Eric Metz, stayed in Oakland to negotiate with the Raiders before Whisenhunt decided not to pursue the position.

"I liked Al, had a good visit, a productive meeting and was flattered to be considered," Whisenhunt said. "I just felt like I needed to come back here."

Metz said the Raiders told him Whisenhunt had a great interview.

"After coming out here and taking a look, he decided to stay with the Steelers," Metz said. "Ken Whisenhunt is going to stay with the Steelers, a job he loves.

"We came out here, had an enjoyable visit, met with Mr. Davis, and Ken likes and respects him."

While the Raiders were offering Whisenhunt good money to become their coach -- more than $2 million annually -- they declined to give him the kind of control over the football operations he felt he needed.

The Raiders job is seen as a coaching graveyard by many in the NFL because of the meddling Davis, who has gone through five coaches in the past 10 years, including Norv Turner, fired at the end of the 2005 season, his second. The meddling reached such a point that John Fox, Carolina's current head coach, quit his job as Raiders defensive coordinator in the middle of a season.

Raiders coaching search looking like Shell game

By Adam Schefter NFL Analyst

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9220564

OAHU, Hawaii (Feb. 9, 2006) -- A 16-year-old high school senior threw the biggest block of the off-season.

The 16-year-old son of Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino blocked his dad from taking the Oakland Raiders head coaching job.

Talks between Petrino and the Raiders, which had been ongoing for the past month, were far enough along that it looked to be only a formality before Petrino were introduced as Oakland's next head coach.

Then Petrino's son voiced his objection to leaving Louisville, and talks with the Raiders broke down, Louisville assistant sports information director Rocco Gasparro confirmed.

Petrino didn't say no to the Raiders so much as he said yes to his son. Now the Raiders are back to the beginning of a coaching search that commenced over a month ago.

The leading candidate -- if not the only candidate -- is now former Raiders head coach Art Shell, whom the Raiders fired after the 1994 season but who now is expected to arrive in Oakland this weekend to resume talks that started last weekend. With no other candidates on Oakland's radar, it's hard to envision a scenario in which anybody but Shell would get the job.

Another candidate, Steelers offensive coordinator Ken Whisenhunt, had an unproductive meeting with the Raiders on Feb. 8. The blind date essentially lacked spark, with neither side being overly impressed with the other. Whisenhunt requested full control of the organization, and the Raiders were unwilling to meet his demands. Then the next day, on the day Petrino backed out, so did Whisenhunt, removing his name from consideration.

Hiring Shell would be a throwback and fallback move for the Raiders, but one that would be met with a warm reception. This offseason, when 10 teams changed NFL head coaches, a minority filled only one -- and that was in a trade, with Herman Edwards going from the Jets to the Chiefs. Minorities failed to land a job in any of the eight head coaching jobs that were filled.

But the Raiders are the last team, and they could buck another trend, hire a minority and give the NFL seven minority head coaches this coming season.

Shell is now the NFL's senior vice president of football operations and development, based out of its New York headquarters. For him it would be a cross-country move, but a move he would like to make.

ftwbolt
02-10-2006, 07:46 AM
Decision to give QB his $8 million bonus a formality; coach hire simmers

By JOHN MCCLAIN Feb. 10, 2006, 2:31AM
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3649353.html

The Texans exercised the three-year, $8 million option bonus on quarterback David Carr's contract this week and expect to hire Mike Sherman as assistant head coach/offensive line next week.

Although Carr's extension has been widely reported since November, when owner Bob McNair first said he would give the quarterback the $8 million before the last game of the season — Sunday's Pro Bowl — it wasn't official until this week.

An announcement is expected today.

Not only does the extension give Carr the $8 million bonus, but he receives base salaries of $5.25 million in 2006, $5.5 million in 2007 and $6 million in 2008.

The first pick in the 2002 draft, Carr earned $22 million in his first four years with the Texans, not including incentive bonuses. Barring a career-ending injury or restructuring of his contract for salary-cap purposes, he'll earn $46.75 million over the first seven years of his career.

The decision to extend Carr's deal was a formality and has no bearing on what the Texans will do in the April draft.

Unless they receive an offer for the first pick that is too good to pass up, which is highly unlikely, the Texans will select Texas quarterback Vince Young or Southern California running back Reggie Bush.

Coach Gary Kubiak has been busy putting together his first coaching staff and evaluating the Texans' roster. He still has a lot of scouting to do.

If Kubiak decides Carr is the quarterback to take the Texans to the Super Bowl, they'll draft Bush, considered one of the top prospects in draft history.

If Kubiak decides Young is such a special quarterback prospect that he's too good to pass up, Carr could be traded. Another veteran quarterback could be signed to play until Kubiak believes Young is ready.

Kubiak also could decide to keep Carr and draft Young.

Meanwhile, the Texans are expected to hire Sherman, the former Green Bay coach who is on a family vacation. Although nothing is official because they haven't negotiated a contract, the Texans expect Sherman to report for work Monday.

Hiring Sherman, an assistant coach at Green Bay and Seattle under Mike Holmgren before he returned to the Packers as head coach, is a coup for Kubiak.

Sherman, 57-39 with the Packers, interviewed for head-coaching jobs with Buffalo and New Orleans. He turned down offers to become offensive coordinator for the Bills and New York Jets. Sherman, who was fired with two years left on his contract, didn't plan on coaching in 2006 until Kubiak called.

Kubiak (running backs) and Sherman (offensive line) were assistants on R.C. Slocum's staff at Texas A&M in 1992-93.

Sherman, who led the Packers to three NFC North titles and four playoff appearances before finishing 4-12 in an injury-plagued 2005 season, will be the only member of Kubiak's staff with experience as an NFL head coach.

RAWDOGG
02-10-2006, 09:11 AM
Is there a link to this story ?

www.dinocosta.com (http://www.dinocosta.com)

Smizzy
02-10-2006, 12:30 PM
i see this trade, straight up, on many websites. i hope it isn't true. we could get more for rivers then john abraham (DE - NYJ) rivers for vilma would be ok though

And Jets fans think Abe for Rivers isn't worth it. a top 5 DE for a guy we dont know If he will ever be any good?

No thanks man.

Sirbob
02-10-2006, 03:02 PM
And Jets fans think Abe for Rivers isn't worth it. a top 5 DE for a guy we dont know If he will ever be any good?

No thanks man.
yup,
And they think Rivers will bring in his old NC state WR buddy.
http://www.jetnation.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13612&page=2

BoltsfanNYC
02-10-2006, 08:42 PM
good I want rivers right here!

Chargeroo
02-10-2006, 08:54 PM
What makes anyone think the Chargers would want a 4/3 defensive end? Not a bit of sense in that rumor. I notice they think he's a "top five" DE, I don't think he's a top ten myself, but at any rate, even if he's the number one DE in the 4/3, what does a team that plays the 3/4 do with him? They'd make a third down player out of him and you don't trade a QB for a third down pass rusher. Dream on Jet fans. If the Jets want to dream about getting one of the Bolts QB's, they should think about trading that #4 pick and perhaps one of those o-line people that they seem about to lose.

collamer22
02-10-2006, 11:13 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-raiders-shell&prov=ap&type=lgns

Davis has screwed himself. No one wants to go there. The only one that would take job is his own an ex-player/ coach.

ftwbolt
02-11-2006, 07:43 AM
Commentary Mike Preston
Originally published Feb 11, 2006

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston11feb11,0,2533177.column?coll=bal-sports-football

The Ravens have had a discussion with the agents for Pro Bowl safety Ed Reed but have failed to reach common ground to produce a new multiyear contract for one of the NFL's best defensive players.

Reed has one year remaining on a contract that will pay him $2.15 million this season. Most teams prefer to have their star players under contract before they begin their final season, much as the Ravens did last year with Todd Heap, who became the highest-paid tight end in the game.

The sticking point with Reed is that the Ravens want to make him one of the highest-paid safeties, but he wants to be compensated as one of the league's top defensive players. The difference is millions of dollars.

For example, Denver safety John Lynch, still one of the best in the game, will make $2.9 million in 2006, while Ravens middle linebacker Ray Lewis is expected to make $5.5 million. Top safeties like Roy Williams and Brian Dawkins have the same problem as Reed because teams have devalued the position.

A nickel back makes as much as the No. 2 safety on most rosters. There is little doubt about Reed's impact. He is the Ravens' best defensive player and one of their surest tacklers. He can change the course of a game on special teams by returning punts or blocking them.

With Reed in the lineup, the middle of the field is taken away from most offenses. But under the scenario proposed by the Ravens, Reed would still make less than Lewis, cornerback Chris McAlister and offensive tackle Jonathan Ogden.

Reed, though, has little leverage.

The Ravens could designate him the franchise player after the 2006 season, which would force him to make millions less than the asking price of a star defensive player.

"Over the years, we've been able to come to contract agreements with our players that have been fair for the organization and fair for the players," said general manager Ozzie Newsome. "We would like to engage in more conversations with Ed's representatives."

Associates and friends close to Lewis have said that he doesn't want to play in Baltimore for the 2006 season, but Newsome said the linebacker hasn't informed the team of any such intention.

Newsome, though, did admit that Lewis had a recent meeting with team owner Steve Bisciotti in Florida, and said Lewis asked to be traded before the start of the 2005 season. Lewis, a seven-time Pro Bowl performer, went into a self-imposed isolation from the team last season after the Ravens declined to restructure his contract, which still has three years left.

He no longer wanted to be the face of the team, and it has become clear to everyone, except Newsome, that Lewis wants out. League sources have said the Ravens were sending out "feelers" in a possible trade for Lewis, but they haven't gotten more than a second- round draft pick in exchange (note to Ravens: Take it and run).

A team source said Lewis discussed his contract situation with Bisciotti, among other things.

"I was not informed that the issue of the contract came up as a part of that meeting," Newsome said. "Through the years, a number of players have approached me about being traded. That's not unusual. Ray is under contract, and we gave him that contract to retire as a Raven."

The Ravens had interest in re-hiring two former employees, but Phil Savage remained the general manager in Cleveland and Donnie Henderson became the defensive coordinator in Detroit. They would have been great additions for the Ravens.

Henderson was recently fired as the defensive coordinator of the New York Jets, and the Ravens approached him about becoming an assistant again. But Henderson, who also was interviewed for the New Orleans head coaching vacancy, stayed on the market for only a short time before joining the Lions. Henderson had a fiery and competitive style but also had a strong rapport with his players. It remains to be seen if Dennis Thurman, the Ravens' secondary coach, can bring discipline to a unit that severely lacked it a season ago.

Savage, the Ravens' former player personnel director, remained in Cleveland after winning a power struggle with Browns president John Collins late in the season. Savage has emerged as a big player in the sweepstakes for Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz, who might become a head coach in the NFL in 2007.

The two remain close friends from their days with the Browns before they moved to Baltimore. If Savage had rejoined the staff in Baltimore, the move might have influenced Ferentz to come here if Brian Billick fails this season. If Browns coach Romeo Crennel continues to falter, look for Savage to try to entice Ferentz to Cleveland.

ftwbolt
02-11-2006, 07:44 AM
Complicated equation includes Super Bowl incentive bonusesSaturday, February 11, 2006
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06042/653952.stm

Their Super Bowl victory will cost the Steelers next season.

Not only will it drive the interest in some of their free agents higher, it will hit them harder under the salary cap.

A number of Steelers had incentives written into their contracts for winning the Super Bowl, and those payouts will be charged against the team's 2006 salary cap. The total amount could not be determined, but quarterback Ben Roethlisberger alone will receive a $500,000 bonus because his team won the championship.

It's a good problem to have, but the total Super Bowl incentive payouts could be enough to cost them a free-agent signing this year. For example, wide receiver Cedrick Wilson was the only true unrestricted free agent from another team who signed with the Steelers in 2005. He received a $2 million signing bonus and a first-year salary of $540,000 on a four-year, $8 million contract. Wilson, however, counted only $1,043,520 against their 2005 cap because of the lower salary and pro-rated signing bonus.

Roethlisberger's Super Bowl incentive wipes out half of that amount.

Free agency begins March 3 and, while the salary cap is expected to increase by $10 million, the Steelers already are above that and must make moves before then to get under what likely will be each team's cap of about $95 million.

Negotiations between owners and the players association are taking place to extend the collective bargaining agreement and, if that's not completed before free agency starts, teams could be reluctant to sign players not knowing what the future parameters are. Talks also are ongoing among owners to come to new agreements on shared revenue. An important meeting will take place in Dallas tomorrow and include Steelers president Art Rooney II and his father, Dan, the team's chairman.

Because they will be tight against the salary cap, the Steelers won't be very active in free agency. It could be a year when their door swings only outward.

They will try to sign some of their own players before they become free agents March 3, but it is likely they will lose many of them.

Their first move is to convince center Jeff Hartings to take less than the $4,750,000 he is due in 2006, much the way Jerome Bettis took a pay cut over the past two seasons. Of that amount, Hartings is due a $750,000 roster bonus March 2. If they cannot agree on a lower salary, they will release him and save the $4.75 million under their cap and backup Chukky Okobi will become their new center.

If they can come to an agreement with Hartings, Okobi likely will be released because he has a $2 million salary this season, up from $540,000 last year.

They also will release quarterback Tommy Maddox, who was set to make $1.1 million this year but who slipped to No. 3 during the 2005 season. The Steelers are expected to sign veteran Charlie Batch, whose contract expires, to a new deal as their backup.

Their two biggest unrestricted free agents will be receiver Antwaan Randle El and free safety Chris Hope, and both will attract many suitors. Patriots coach Bill Belichick, for example, loves Randle El and his versatility, and his team likely will make him a nice offer. Another problem for the Steelers, besides their salary cap, is the amount of money they have invested in receivers after Hines Ward earned the largest signing bonus in club history in September and Wilson's salary-cap number more than doubles this year.

The Steelers have decided to make backup defensive end Brett Keisel a priority to re-sign. They believe he can be an impact player. That leaves veteran starter Kimo von Oelhoffen in limbo because he, too, becomes a free agent. At 35, von Oelhoffen had one of his best seasons, though, and it's possible they would offer him a one-year deal.

Rookie Bryant McFadden is ready to start in his second season, which means Deshea Townsend may sign elsewhere or take less to remain and possibly play nickel back.

Jerome Bettis will retire, so the $5,351,000 salary on their books for him in 2006 will disappear. Third-down back Verron Haynes is a free agent. Duce Staley, who dressed for five games in 2006, will earn a $2.5 million salary. They would like him to fill the role of Bettis next season or play more often. They also could draft another back.

Backup tight end Jerame Tuman also is an unrestricted free agent. Cornerback Willie Williams, who lost his starting job at the end of training camp to Ike Taylor and did not dress for 13 of the final 14 games, including playoffs, likely will be released, wiping clear his $1,235,000 salary.

Taylor will become a restricted free agent, and the Steelers will offer him the middle tender which would allow them to match any offer he might receive or get a first-round draft pick if he signs and they decline to match.

Wide receiver Quincy Morgan signed a one-year contract to join them this year after Dallas released him. He could become their No. 3 receiver behind Ward and Wilson, if they can sign him. Rookie Nate Washington also could compete for that role, or they could draft a receiver on the first day.

The good news for the Steelers as they enter free agency: Their offensive line is set, two-thirds of their defensive line, all of their linebackers are under contract and they won't have a lot of big holes to fill even if many of their own free agents leave.

No matter what happens in free agency, they will enter 2006 as a team talented enough to win another Super Bowl.

TJ21
02-11-2006, 08:11 AM
It would be great if we could grab Chris Hope. Hopefully he won't reach a deal with the organization and we can improve our secondary.

Ikeman83
02-11-2006, 08:23 AM
If we sign hope, and Ko is on the board, but the top 3 OTs are off, do we still take Ko? Questionable...

Capfan
02-11-2006, 08:35 AM
Their first move is to convince center Jeff Hartings to take less than the $4,750,000 he is due in 2006, much the way Jerome Bettis took a pay cut over the past two seasons. Of that amount, Hartings is due a $750,000 roster bonus March 2. If they cannot agree on a lower salary, they will release him and save the $4.75 million under their cap and backup Chukky Okobi will become their new center.

He's a solid player and would instantly become the most sought after center along with Bentley from the Saints. He's had knee troubles in the past, but at 33 he still has some good years left in him.

I expect there will be more offensive linemen added to the free agent pool over the next few weeks by teams w/ cap troubles. Let's hope one is a quality OT.

ftwbolt
02-11-2006, 08:54 AM
Published Saturday, February 11, 2006

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/021106/chi_owens.shtml

By Rick Dean
The Capital-Journal
KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The Chiefs and the agent representing controversial receiver Terrell Owens met informally at the recent Senior Bowl college all-star game, but discussions about bringing Owens to Kansas City haven't advanced beyond that point.

"We were approached by his agent at the Senior Bowl and we had a visit -- a very short visit," coach Herm Edwards said Friday at a media briefing. "He hasn't gotten back to us since."

Edwards said he would have to meet with Owens before he could evaluate whether the outspoken player who was suspended by the Philadelphia Eagles this year could join the Chiefs without becoming a major distraction.

"We can all form our opinions about people, but until you sit in a room and actually talk to somebody, you're just getting other people's opinions," Edwards said. "But I won't bring players in here who will distract this team and take away from our chance of winning a championship."

Edwards continued to hold out hope that aging offensive linemen Will Shields and Willie Roaf will return to play in 2006. He also remains hopeful that Priest Holmes, who is scheduled for another neurological exam next week that will access his recovery from head and neck injuries, will return.

"I talked to Will, had a good conversation with him prior to going to the Pro Bowl, and I anticipate him coming back," Edwards said. "And from what I've heard about Willie, I anticipate him coming back.

"But that's today. It's easy for a guy to say he wants to come back now. The hard part comes when they're packing the truck to go to River Falls (and training camp)."

Ikeman83
02-11-2006, 09:01 AM
If Shields and Roaf retire, that line will be on such a slide...

Tomlinson21
02-11-2006, 09:28 AM
If Shields and Roaf retire, that line will be on such a slide...
And we'll see Larry Johnson digressing back to wearing diapers again, too.

Ikeman83
02-11-2006, 09:30 AM
That whole team is based on the strength of that line and aging skill players... they're gonna have to start rebuilding there pretty soon.

Chargeroo
02-11-2006, 10:29 AM
That whole team is based on the strength of that line and aging skill players... they're gonna have to start rebuilding there pretty soon.I agree but based on what I've read, it sounds like Shields and Roaf will come back for one last year. Johnson will still be good but the automatic 100 yards every game will be gone when those two retire.

Theganggreen51
02-11-2006, 12:41 PM
Chargers suck

SDBoltz
02-11-2006, 12:42 PM
Is that why you took the effort to come to our board? Cause we suck? No need to answer this..Just something to think about.

Theganggreen51
02-11-2006, 12:44 PM
Hey, I have a lotta free time, you guys suck, LT is the only mentionable player on your roster, and you guys refs are dickheads.

SDBoltz
02-11-2006, 12:46 PM
Well have fun getting kicked off for trolling... It wont be long.

Chargeroo
02-11-2006, 12:51 PM
Hey, I have a lotta free time, you guys suck, LT is the only mentionable player on your roster, and you guys refs are dickheads.Sorry, I'll have to ban you - no-one under 10 allowed.

BlueandGoldRush
02-11-2006, 12:59 PM
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-sp.preston11feb11,0,2533177.column?coll=bal-sports-football


Associates and friends close to Ray Lewis have said that he doesn't want to play in Baltimore for the 2006 season, but Newsome said the linebacker hasn't informed the team of any such intention.

Newsome, though, did admit that Lewis had a recent meeting with team owner Steve Bisciotti in Florida, and said Lewis asked to be traded before the start of the 2005 season. Lewis, a seven-time Pro Bowl performer, went into a self-imposed isolation from the team last season after the Ravens declined to restructure his contract, which still has three years left.

He no longer wanted to be the face of the team, and it has become clear to everyone, except Newsome, that Lewis wants out. League sources have said the Ravens were sending out "feelers" in a possible trade for Lewis, but they haven't gotten more than a second- round draft pick in exchange (note to Ravens: Take it and run).

I saw Ray Lewis on the NFL Network, talking about Shawne Merriman, and he said, probably 3 or 4 times, "I would love to play with Merriman" and "I would really enjoy playing next to Shawne" etc., etc.

He's 31, so he's not young, but he's three years younger than our current ILBs, and he's obviously very proficient in the 3-4. My God, Ray Lewis and Shawne Merriman would just scare the hell out of opposing RBs. He's got Super Bowl experience as well. Hmmm.....

SDBoltz
02-11-2006, 01:03 PM
I saw Ray Lewis on the NFL Network, talking about Shawne Merriman, and he said, probably 3 or 4 times, "I would love to play with Merriman" and "I would really enjoy playing next to Shawne" etc., etc.

He's 31, so he's not young, but he's three years younger than our current ILBs, and he's obviously very proficient in the 3-4. My God, Ray Lewis and Shawne Merriman would just scare the hell out of opposing RBs. He's got Super Bowl experience as well. Hmmm..... :eek: <-- Opposing RB

Shamrock
02-11-2006, 03:14 PM
And Jets fans think Abe for Rivers isn't worth it. a top 5 DE for a guy we dont know If he will ever be any good?

No thanks man.
Jets media and fans are delusional.

You don't have rights to Abraham. He's an unrestricted FA.

To get his rights, he will have to be Franchised Tagged. In order to Franchise tag him, you will have to have $8.3 million under you cap (that's the tag price of a DE). Currently, from media reports, the Jets are anywhere from $25 to $31 million over the 2006 salary cap.

So, you have to cut $33 to $39 mill off your current contracts. Have fun doing that.

The Jets are in a position of weakness. They have no QB, no RB, a crappy OL, and are in cap hell. There is no way San Diego helps them out to obtain a player who doesn't fit our scheme. This is mindless wishful thinking on the part of Jets fans and their ignorant media hacks.

Ikeman83
02-11-2006, 03:36 PM
Get Ray Lewis... GOD WILLS IT!

Chargeroo
02-11-2006, 05:24 PM
Get Ray Lewis... GOD WILLS IT!-Ray Lewis is not a free agent.

TJ21
02-11-2006, 05:25 PM
-Ray Lewis is not a free agent.
Neither is Ed Reed... before that whole thing starts up again.

Mr. Heisman
02-11-2006, 09:25 PM
Sorry, I'll have to ban you - no-one under 10 allowed.

Thank You Chargeroo! That guy must have been a Raider Fan or maybe a Packer fan due to name! Either one he was he was all bent b/c his team couldn't even buy a win last season or the past ones! HATERSSSSSSSSS

ftwbolt
02-12-2006, 08:03 AM
Thank You Chargeroo! That guy must have been a Raider Fan or maybe a Packer fan due to name! Either one he was he was all bent b/c his team couldn't even buy a win last season or the past ones! HATERSSSSSSSSS

Just my honest opinion: Packer fans have way more class than any raidturd fan thought about having, just look at their boss !:rolleyes:

Decisions, decisions

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/sports/s_423063.html

By Mike Prisuta
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, February 12, 2006


Jerome Bettis' grand finale couldn't have been any better.
For others, only their Steelers careers have ended.

Free agency dictates roster changes, especially for Super Bowl champions.

The Steelers aren't immune.

They'll try to keep as many of their 11 unrestricted free agents as possible, but they won't be able to keep them all.

That means difficult decisions will have to be made on the likes of:

QB Charlie Batch -- He's a quality backup to Ben Roethlisberger: Keeper.

RB Verron Haynes -- Getting benched Nov. 28 and Dec. 4, Cincinnati emphasized, in retrospect, the invaluable role Haynes plays as the Steelers' third-down back: Keeper.

TE Jerame Tuman -- He's a starting tight end in the NFL and he can't be that with Heath Miller ahead of him in Pittsburgh. Now that he has a Super Bowl ring, Tuman can move on sans regrets: C-ya.

WR Quincy Morgan -- He has a track record of achievement in the league, he'll be relatively affordable, and at 6-foot-1 and 215 pounds he adds an element of size Antwaan Randle El and Cedric Wilson can't match at wide receiver: Keeper.

Randle El -- As much as the Steelers would love to keep him, they'll get priced out of the market. And they can't afford to overpay for a guy who's greatest contributions come on punt returns and gadget plays (Morgan can pick up the special-teams slack on kickoff returns and Hines Ward or Wilson can throw the subsequent reverse-passes): C-ya.

OT Barrett Brooks -- Good guy to have around, and the price is right: Keeper.

DE Brett Keisel -- It's time to allow Keisel to evolve from special teams demon and valuable reserve into the Steelers' next Aaron Smith. Keisel should be priority No. 1 this offseason: Keeper.

DE Kimo von Oelhoffen -- As heroic as von Oelhoffen was this season, in general, and during Super Bowl XL, in particular, Keisel's presence and von Oelhoffen's age (35) make Kimo expendable: C-ya.

LB Clint Kriewaldt -- He isn't looking for a monster payday or an upgrade in responsibility. And it's unlikely the Steelers would find a guy as valuable on special teams or as reliable on defense if needed: Keeper.

CB Deshea Townsend -- Another guy who had a solid season and a spectacular Super Bowl, but also another guy who's being pushed out by a young player (Bryant McFadden): C-ya.

FS Chris Hope -- Having to replace half the secondary would put an unnecessary strain on the Steelers' title defense. That makes Hope's return critical: Keeper.

Also falling into the "Keeper" category are CB Ike Taylor, WR Sean Morey (restricted free agents), and RB Willie Parker and LB James Harrison (exclusive rights FAs).

All of that ought to make the offseason as challenging for the Steelers as the postseason was unforgettable for Bettis.


http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_3500172

Denver

Don't get too caught up in those rumors that the Broncos are interested in trading with Houston for the No. 1 overall pick. In an offseason that could include a major move - Terrell Owens or Ricky Williams - this is one blockbuster with little chance of developing.

The Broncos won't have the salary cap room to absorb the top pick. Deals for players such as Owens or Williams would be easier to maneuver because of incentives.

The only reason the Houston rumor has gotten any legs is because of the relationship between the Broncos and new Texans coach Gary Kubiak. Look for the connection between Kubiak - who spent 11 seasons as the Broncos' offensive coordinator - to continue simply because it's easy.

Yes, Houston, perhaps unwilling to deal with the local backlash of taking Reggie Bush over Vince Young, may look to get a bundle in return for the top pick. But the Texans' dance partner in all likelihood won't be the Broncos.

Indianapolis

Running back Edgerrin James insisted this past week he could remain with the Colts.

James told reporters at the Pro Bowl he hasn't totally made up his mind after saying recently his days with the Colts were over.

"If I was gone I wouldn't have taken off this horseshoe and had a blank white helmet," James said.

If James does leave, Denver could be a possibility. The Broncos are looking for a playmaker, but landing James could be tough financially.

Expect James to test the open market. If a major deal - James didn't get many bites on the trade market last year - doesn't develop, he could return to the Colts.

It may be the best for everyone. He's a great complement to the Colts' tremendous passing game and the vertical game assists James. So don't be surprised if all parties decide Indy is the best place for James.

Oakland

The Raiders hiring of Art Shell could actually put the renegade team in good standing with the NFL. Long considered - much of it self fueled - an outlaw franchise that went against the league's direction Oakland and owner Al Davis is sure to get appreciation from the NFL office for its commitment to Art Shell.

Shell was an administrator with the league, who is in charge of on-field discipline, and is highly respected by Commissioner Paul Tagliabue. Plus, with Shell being an African-American, Oakland deservedly will get credit for hiring Shell in a year in which minority hiring has inexplicably taken a step back. All seven of the first-time coaches hired this offseason are Caucasian.

Shell, of course, was the Raiders head coach in the early 1990s and his hiring will raise some eyebrows by a franchise that can't get away from its past. The irony, of course, is a major part of Davis' past is a poisoned relationship with the NFL. The reunion with Shell will help erase some bad blood.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printedition/ny-a4624607feb12,0,5948865.column?page=2&coll=ny-sports-print

Abraham on the block

The Jets were going to look to trade John Abraham anyway. But the appointments of Eric Mangini and Mike Tannenbaum probably only increase the chances Abraham will go.

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but Tannenbaum made it clear they seek players who are both "tough" and "smart." In my estimation, Abraham was out at "tough."

The new regime also might be less inclined to count on Chad Pennington's return. It appears the new idea is to acquire both a young quarterback and a veteran quarterback, not a bad thought. As they've learned, you can never have too many quarterbacks.

If the new guys can figure a way to trade Abraham for either Vince Young or Matt Leinart, we know they named the right two guys. But that won't be easy.

Chargeroo
02-12-2006, 08:19 AM
Thank You Chargeroo! That guy must have been a Raider Fan or maybe a Packer fan due to name! Either one he was he was all bent b/c his team couldn't even buy a win last season or the past ones! HATERSSSSSSSSSThat kid was a Jets fan from New Joisey.

Ikeman83
02-12-2006, 08:37 AM
-Ray Lewis is not a free agent.

I said "Get", not sign. I know he isn't a FA, and it was a joke.

ftwbolt
02-12-2006, 08:42 AM
Chiefs ‘on the cusp of greatness’
Posted on Sun, Feb. 12, 2006 JASON WHITLOCK

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/nfl/kansas_city_chiefs/13851127.htm

HONOLULU — If today is Will Shields’ last time in a football uniform, the future Hall of Famer isn’t acting like it.
Shields isn’t doing anything all that special to commemorate his 11th trip to football’s all-star weekend in paradise. Oh, sure, he’s having a good time, enjoying the fellowship with the game’s top players. But he isn’t documenting every moment, and he’s not measuring his words when asked about the possibility of retirement.
“I’ll know in a couple of weeks, maybe by March 3. Isn’t that the first day of free-agency?” Shields said to me early Friday evening at the Pro Bowl team hotel. “It all depends on my knees and back.”
There you have it. Will Shields — the 13-year Chiefs vet — wants to play another season. Barring leaving today’s all-star classic in pronounced pain, you can expect the man who put the Will in Kansas City’s “Big Willies” offensive line to lineup once again alongside Casey Wiegmann, Brian Waters, Willie Roaf and John Welbourn.
Thursday night, at a party hosted by Tony Gonzalez and Warren Moon, one of Shields’ teammates assured me that today’s all-star game would not be the last for Shields.
The popular thinking among the players in Honolulu is that the Chiefs, with Herm Edwards pushing the buttons, are the non-playoff team most likely to make a 2007 Super Bowl run.
“This team is going to be good regardless of whether I come back or not,” Shields said. “We’re right on the cusp of greatness. You don’t know what it’s going to take to push us over the edge. It might be one guy doing something a little different, something extra. It might be a group of guys. It might be me.”
It might be Ty Law. As Thursday night rolled into Friday morning, I knocked back a 32nd birthday shot of chilled Grey Goose with Law and his former New England teammate Otis Smith, the former Missouri Tiger. As my favorite corner celebrated his birthday, I campaigned for a Law-Herm Edwards Kansas City reunion.
Law said he expects the Jets to release him shortly after the Pro Bowl. In his one season in New York, Law led the NFL in interceptions with 10 and earned another Pro Bowl berth. He basically signed a one-year deal with the Jets because he had to prove he could recover from a 2005 foot injury.
“I was supposed to be done, but I put 10 interceptions on they (butt),” Law boasted. “Is the (Super Bowl) window still open for the Chiefs? Can the offense still get it done? And can they afford me and Pat (Surtain)?”
Yes, yes, and yes.
I explained to Law that as long as Shields returns for one more year and Larry Johnson takes care of himself this offseason, Kansas City’s offense will still score points. The offense might be less wide open, but that doesn’t mean it will be less effective.
“What about up front on defense? They got any playmakers?” Law wondered.
I told him the Chiefs need one playmaker to go along with Jared Allen. If Law signs for a reasonable price, the Chiefs could address their other shortcomings. So what kind of guaranteed, bonus money is Law looking for?
“I’d say around $10 million,” he said. “There are a lot of teams interested. Miami is talking about getting Steve McNair down there, and if the Dolphins get a quarterback, they’re a real contender for the Super Bowl. That’s what it’s all about for me right now. I need to win another title.”
Law also needs to play for a coach he can trust as much as Edwards, who has a great reputation with players around the league. Edwards’ player-friendly practice schedule was instrumental in Law’s ability to put together a strong season.
Shields said Edwards’ coaching style would benefit his ailing back and knees.
“I love Herm,” Shields said. “He’s a nice guy, a real straight-shooter. It’s always good to play for a guy who wants quality more than quantity. That’s better for your body.”


TALKIN' BROWNS:

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/columnists/terry_pluto/13853881.htm

• Antonio Bryant is a free agent. The Browns seem in no rush to sign him. Despite his 69 catches, they are not overwhelmed with the idea of keeping him for big money. They seem more interested in shopping for some veteran free-agent receivers. If Bryant leaves, they might bring in two.

• L.J. Shelton is a free agent. While the left tackle seemed so-so at best, he started all 16 games and rarely missed any plays. Decent left tackles are so hard to find, so Shelton could get a fairly lucrative offer somewhere else. The Browns are talking to him.

• Don't expect the Browns to draft an offensive lineman in the first round. They probably will go defense. But they do know that they have to get some depth on the offensive line.

• The only backup left tackle is Nat Dorsey, a player acquired from the Minnesota Vikings for Melvin Fowler. But he played so little last season, it's hard to know if he can start right now. Savage likes Dorsey and believes that he can eventually develop into a starter.

• Talks continue with free-agent defensive lineman Orpheus Roye. Talking to one football executive about which Browns players could make the starting lineup with the Pittsburgh Steelers, only two names came up -- right tackle Ryan Tucker and Roye. Roye had knee surgery after the season. He is 33 and is headed into his 11th year, so he has a lot of wear on his body. The Browns still want him back.

• Savage said fans keep coming up to him and saying, ``Draft A.J. Hawk.'' He got the message. But picking No. 12 in the first round, the Browns believe that the Ohio State star will be gone. But as one Browns executive told me, ``We'd love Hawk to slide. That's a no-brainer. You take him, you start him. A lot of young linebackers have played well right away, and we think he can do it, too.''

• If anything, Hawk seems to be rising in the draft and might go in the top five.

• The Browns desperately need a nose tackle for the middle of their 3-4 defense. They are checking out Haloti Ngata, a 6-foot-5, 338-pounder from Oregon. The junior has declared for the draft. He was the Pac-10 Co-Defensive Player of the Year. He blocked seven kicks in three years. He is a definite first-round pick.

• The Browns consider their secondary to be the team's strength. They believe that Brodney Pool will emerge as an impact safety in his second season. They are confident in their three cornerbacks: Daylon McCutcheon, Gary Baxter and Leigh Bodden. Other safeties are Brian Russell, Sean Jones and Chris Crocker.

• Jones did lead the team in special teams tackles. The question is if his athleticism can be harnessed to be an effective safety. Guess who was second in special teams tackles? Kent State's Joshua Cribbs. The Browns like Cribbs for his special teams work, kick returns and his speed.

• I've not heard much about it, but I keep wondering if the Browns will take Cribbs, the former KSU quarterback, and work him into an all-purpose player like Pittsburgh's Antwaan Randle El. It just seems obvious.

• Other than Andra Davis, no linebacker is a lock to start next year. It's no secret that Ben Taylor played hard, but seems ill-suited for the 3-4 alignment. Matt Stewart is decent and probably will start again, but he's not a big-play guy.

• The most interesting linebacker is Chaun Thompson, who has worked hard, is fast but doesn't bring the pressure on the quarterback the Browns would like. But neither does anyone else on the team. One of the top priorities is finding someone who can pressure the quarterback.

ftwbolt
02-13-2006, 12:30 PM
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/nfl/article/0,2777,DRMN_23918_4462705,00.html

By Jeff Legwold, Rocky Mountain News
February 13, 2006
HONOLULU - No team has moved faster than the Denver Broncos into free agency.
The Broncos signed center Tom Nalen to a three-year contract extension just days after they lost the AFC Championship Game and signed safety Sam Brandon to a four-year deal while the coaching staff was still in Hawaii for the Pro Bowl.

"We try to get everything done as quickly as possible," Broncos coach Mike Shanahan said. "We have to be ready for March."

Free agency around the league begins March 3, and teams also have to be under the salary cap for the first time by then.

The Broncos also already have begun preliminary talks for a contract renegotiation for left tackle Matt Lepsis.

"You have to give them credit - (general manager) Ted Sundquist and (director of football administration) Mike Bluem - they decided quickly they wanted Sam back and we got something done," said Brandon's representative, Michael Hoffman. "Sam's happy. Certainly, he's like everybody and he still aspires to be a starter, but he's happy with the situation in Denver."

According to documents filed with the league and the NFL Players' Association, the Broncos wanted Brandon enough to have signed him to a four-year deal. The fourth year does void if Brandon meets certain incentives, including playing time.

Brandon received a $340,000 signing bonus to go with base salaries of $550,000 in 2006, $650,000 in '07 and $750,000 in '08. If the contract is not voided in '09, he would receive $850,000.

Shanahan called Nalen "the centerpiece" of the offensive line and said the Broncos wanted the veteran center to finish his career with the team. Brandon, he said, was coming off his best "year as a Denver Bronco" and they wanted insurance on the roster because starting safeties John Lynch and Nick Ferguson are 34 and 32, respectively.

"Not just because of that, but because of his production, too," Shanahan said. "But as guys get older and guys (get hurt), you like having somebody with experience who can go in there and play. Sam gives us that."

BLOODIED: Broncos receiver Rod Smith was left with blood on his shirt after the game Sunday. The veteran suffered a small cut over his left eye after he dived for a pass from Tennessee's Steve McNair in the final seconds.

Smith landed hard and an NFC defender then landed on top of him. He stayed down for a few minutes, then walked to the AFC sideline.

"My helmet, with the sweat, just got turned a little bit and when everybody landed on me, it cut me," Smith said. "But I should have caught that ball.

"I wanted to win that game. We had so many opportunities. When you don't work with a bunch of guys all the time, it's just hard to get that timing down."

NO SURGERY: Broncos cornerback Champ Bailey, who played much of the season wearing a harness on the left shoulder he dislocated in the season opener in Miami, said he won't need surgery in the off-season to repair the shoulder.

"That's not the plan right now," Bailey said. "The plan right now is to leave it like it is. I'll be fine with a little rest."