View Full Version : Who will be cut before Free Agency start??
LTMvP61nizine
01-08-2006, 10:57 PM
I know we dont have any cap problems but theres always that someone that gets the ax.. I mean before 2005 season started we were in in good cap figure but AJ cut Fisk, Flutie, and Dwight... Who could possibly get the ax this year??? Could it be S Jerry Wilson, S Bhawoh Jue, CB Sammy Davis?? Some of you might disagree with Jue but thats all I can name that could get cut..Can any of you think of anybody else that can be ax??
jazzing
01-08-2006, 11:08 PM
Reche Caldwell--shows moments of ability but too many drops --play too inconsistant.
StevenSD
01-08-2006, 11:08 PM
Most likely Feely if he doesn't agree on a new contract, but I've read articles that says he wants to redo his contract so he can stay a Charger. (I like his attitude)
I believe Caldwell will get the axe. He blew the Eagles game for that, if I'm a GM, I don't want a player that blows games for you.
LTMvP61nizine
01-08-2006, 11:12 PM
Rece Caldwell is a free agent..
Sogvet17
01-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Most likely Feely if he doesn't agree on a new contract, but I've read articles that says he wants to redo his contract so he can stay a Charger. (I like his attitude)
I believe Caldwell will get the axe. He blew the Eagles game for that, if I'm a GM, I don't want a player that blows games for you.
I also read an article on ESPN Insider that Feely would like to stay in San Diego if the Bolts would like him to. He also indicated that he would be willing to rework his 3.4M contract for next year to something more manageable for the Bolts....I like his attitude....IMHO
RBloom
01-09-2006, 03:23 AM
Wilson will be a free agent. I think that they'll cut 1 or 2 players on the o-line. But I mean in back-ups like Jordan or Hallen. Their depth is not that great.
vendetta07
01-09-2006, 03:56 AM
I know we dont have any cap problems but theres always that someone that gets the ax.. I mean before 2005 season started we were in in good cap figure but AJ cut Fisk, Flutie, and Dwight... Who could possibly get the ax this year??? Could it be S Jerry Wilson, S Bhawoh Jue, CB Sammy Davis?? Some of you might disagree with Jue but thats all I can name that could get cut..Can any of you think of anybody else that can be ax??
Jerry Wilson and Sammy Davis
rubbermusic
01-09-2006, 04:57 AM
Jerry Wilson and Sammy Davis
I completely agree with Wilson and Davis and I don't think we will attempt to sign Caldwell or Leiber. I am hoping Osgood gets resigned quickly though!!
mrkmacc21
01-09-2006, 02:33 PM
I'm thinking Hallen, Wilson, Camarillo, Hodges. I don't think the "contributors" are going anywhere, like Leber, Polk, Sammy Davis (all needed for depth). The only way these guys will be let go is if they are beat out by someone that we draft. IMO. Osgood, Caldwell, Parker, Jackson, Floyd, must be kept. I'm thinking the shocker release will be Keenan! (sad to say) especially if we draft another WR within the first 3 rounds, and we manage to retain Osgood and Caldwell.
bluejewel
01-09-2006, 02:38 PM
I'm thinking Hallen, Wilson, Camarillo, Hodges. I don't think the "contributors" are going anywhere, like Leber, Polk, Sammy Davis (all needed for depth). The only way these guys will be let go is if they are beat out by someone that we draft. IMO. Osgood, Caldwell, Parker, Jackson, Floyd, must be kept. I'm thinking the shocker release will be Keenan! (sad to say) especially if we draft another WR within the first 3 rounds, and we manage to retain Osgood and Caldwell.
No way Keenan...even Cam said to a Houston reproter that keenan was a main part of our offense...he rounds it out along with Parker and Gates...Keenan is not going any where....IMHO
It was nice to hear a bit from one of our "other" coaches....!
3rd&Long
01-09-2006, 02:38 PM
Yes, I'd agree on Sammy Davis and Jerry Wilson, but wouldn't be completely shocked if Donnie Edwards were let go either.
KingGL
01-09-2006, 03:00 PM
Keenan aka Clutch we would NEVER cut him.......He is one of the leaders on this team and just got extended he will be hear 2-3 more years.
LightzOut
01-09-2006, 03:08 PM
I think Sammy Davis is going to get the ax. He makes first round money but hasn't shown first round ability. However, they will try and re-sign him under better terms for depth purposes since he already knows the system.
acasey
01-09-2006, 03:08 PM
I hope Caldwell does not go anywhere. I know he was nothing but butterfingers for a few games but he really came together nicely at the end and made some good catches and protected the ball a lot better. Took some brutal hits and still came up with the football.
I think we need a good, deep WR threat... but also a QB that has shown the arm to hit them on a regular basis. The long ball is not exactly our biggest threat as long as Brees is in town lol.
sdjase
01-09-2006, 03:15 PM
I'd have to believe that the following players are gone.
Caldwell - hasn't been the same since his injury, dropped some key balls
Wilson - Not really all that happy since getting moved to back-up
Davis - Someone on that secondary has to go, although I think he really stepped up and played A LOT better this year
Leber - Not really needed on the Chargers any more but a great player nonetheless
bigbolthead21
01-09-2006, 03:37 PM
Yes, I'd agree on Sammy Davis and Jerry Wilson, but wouldn't be completely shocked if Donnie Edwards were let go either.
AJ will be insane to let Donnie go, he is one of our most consistent player in our team plus he is a great leader:Helmet:
mwooten
01-09-2006, 03:39 PM
I completely agree with Wilson and Davis and I don't think we will attempt to sign Caldwell or Leiber. I am hoping Osgood gets resigned quickly though!!
Why is it everyone wants Caldwell gone, but wants Osgood to stay so bad? Caldwell is a bigger contributor than Osgood...all he has done is good on ST.
Caldwell had a couple of fumbles, but so what? I think he & Tomlinson had the same for the year (granted LT touches it much more). Caldwell is one of our most talented receivers, and I think he and VJ are going to be big parts of our offense next year. Parker is a better # 3, and McCardell will probably be done after this next year if VJ emerges like I hope. I hope we keep Caldwell. I would like to keep Osgood for special teams, but if not, oh well...
LightzOut
01-09-2006, 03:53 PM
Didn't Keenan just sign a contract extension this year? I don't think he is going anywhere. I think VJ will have a break out season next year, ala Gates two years ago. If the Chargers draft a WR, Caldwell is on the way out. We should re-sign Osgood, but I think he is tired of being a strictly special teams guy, he wants more playing time at WR. If we don't offer him that, he will probably look to some other team for that opportunity.
Sogvet17
01-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Didn't Keenan just sign a contract extension this year? I don't think he is going anywhere. I think VJ will have a break out season next year, ala Gates two years ago. If the Chargers draft a WR, Caldwell is on the way out. We should re-sign Osgood, but I think he is tired of being a strictly special teams guy, he wants more playing time at WR. If we don't offer him that, he will probably look to some other team for that opportunity.
agree...I think Van Buren will be gone, also Polk, and most of the guys on IRI think we will keep most of our back up players except those that are beat out by rookies. And Jackson is not a FA, although he was listed as above. I think he signed a 5 year contract when originally signed last year. I think we will keep davis around but a a reduced rate...He is good in the nickle and dime packages....I also think this maight be the year Edwards retires, as he really did lose a step last year. I know all about he tackles, but the run is funneled to the LB's so he is supposed to make a lot of tackles....I think Wilson is done, although the Bolts might keep him around in a non-player role, for his veteran leader abilities....also, we will not cut Jue....he was our best Saftey for the entire year, although he could be upgraded by the draft, but not next year
rubbermusic
01-09-2006, 05:05 PM
Why is it everyone wants Caldwell gone, but wants Osgood to stay so bad? Caldwell is a bigger contributor than Osgood...all he has done is good on ST.
Caldwell had a couple of fumbles, but so what? I think he & Tomlinson had the same for the year (granted LT touches it much more). Caldwell is one of our most talented receivers, and I think he and VJ are going to be big parts of our offense next year. Parker is a better # 3, and McCardell will probably be done after this next year if VJ emerges like I hope. I hope we keep Caldwell. I would like to keep Osgood for special teams, but if not, oh well...
It's not that I WANT him to go but with he and Osgood free agents, I prefer Osgood. With VJ improving I doubt we will re-sign Caldwell and Osgood. Since special teams is one of our biggest weaknesses I just can't see letting one of our best special team players being let go for what will most likely be our #4 receiver after the pre-season and Osgood has shown great hands as a receiver and with his size and speed could be a legitimate deep threat every once in a while.
Also Osgood is a RFA and Caldwell is Unrestricted.
Boltjolt
01-09-2006, 05:07 PM
Reche Caldwell--shows moments of ability but too many drops --play too inconsistant.
He hasnt had a drop for two seasons now:confused:
He has had a couple of fumbles tho
rubbermusic
01-09-2006, 06:02 PM
He hasnt had a drop for two seasons now:confused:
He has had a couple of fumbles tho
Officially he had 0 drops this past year, but there are also balls that should've been caught that weren't. Prime example is Brees interception in the endzone where Caldwell stopped a couple steps too soon and then didn't time his jump right and the ball went right over his head for an interception. People blamed Brees for that but it was pretty clear that Caldwell not only stopped too soon but jumped too soon also.
He's also got 5 career fumbles with 76 career recptions and 12 kick returns. That's 1 about every 18 touches. That is completely terrible.
In Comparison
McCardell 8 fumbles (6 lost) 825 Rec. 38 k/p ret. (1 every 108 touches)
Gates 1 fumble 194 rec.
Parker 8 fumbles (6 lost) 139 rec. 33 p/k ret, (1 every 21...not good also! I think most of his were punt return muffs with 5 in 2004.)
Osgood 0 fumbles 30 rec.
Tomlinson 22 fumbles (8 lost) 2046 att/rec (1 every 93 touches)
Sproles 3 fumbles 92 att/rec/p/k ret. (1 every 31 touches)
Meek858
01-09-2006, 07:02 PM
CHARGERS FREE AGENCY 2006
(updated from the start of the free-agent period to the start of training camp in July)
Unrestricted Free Agents
Drew Brees QB Unsigned
Reche Caldwell WR Unsigned
Justin Peelle TE Unsigned
Bob Hallen OG/C Unsigned
DeQuincy Scott DE/LB Unsigned
Ben Leber OL Unsigned
Carlos Polk LB Unsigned
Jamar Fletcher CB Unsigned
Restricted Free Agents
Kris Dielman OG Unsigned
Courtney Van Buren OT Unsigned
Kassim Osgood WR Unsigned
Andrew Pinnock FB Unsigned
Jacques Cesaire DE Unsigned
Matt Wilhelm LB Unsigned
Stephen Cooper LB Unsigned
Clinton Hart S Unsigned
Willi
01-09-2006, 07:20 PM
I think the reduced playing time of Caldwell all season has been a signal that he was gone soon. We drafted VJ for the same reason we'll draft another WR this year... the performance isn't what we need it to be... we need a threat downfield that is legit. Right now, we don't seem to have a consistent one. We can **** and dunk short yardage with the best of them. We waited long enough on Caldwell to be what we expected him to be, and I don't think AJ is going to wait anymore. Parker is faster, taller, and much more clutch. (Bondsman!). Even so, I think the ideal is McCardell opposite a deep threat with height (VJ, Osgood if they can rise up their game) and Parker as the 3rd receiver. Parker is a great guy and I wish him the best of all things, I hope he stays with the team forever. Caldwell, I am saying thanks for the effort, but perhaps it's time to move on.
Of the other names, I don't know what the situation is with Davis, but I don't know if we can part ways with him and the HUGE contract without a serious cap hit. I like him and his improvement, I just wish he would restructure to his playing level (haha).
Overall, we are disappointed in everyone in the secondary. Jammer pledges to pay $1000 for each INT this year and gets 1! I think much of it is the puckering play calls that we get from the coaches sometimes when we stop being aggressive on the pass rush (should we ever rush less than 5????!?!?!). I still have hope for most of these young players and would like to see them succeed. I really have found great plays this year from all top 3 CB's. I just want one to pop out their like Bailey or O'Neal.... but I know those guys are rare.
I see us losing Jerry Wilson this off season.
I am pretty sure we say goodbye to Reche Caldwell.
I think if Oben is healthy soon, Leander Jordan goes away.... he gave up many big sacks despite the praise.
I think Leber and Polk go though I hope we keep Leber.
I think Godfrey stays for 1 more season.
Not sure if anyone gets cut before free agency, but if so I think it comes from this list.
Boltjolt
01-09-2006, 07:29 PM
Officially he had 0 drops this past year, but there are also balls that should've been caught that weren't. Prime example is Brees interception in the endzone where Caldwell stopped a couple steps too soon and then didn't time his jump right and the ball went right over his head for an interception. People blamed Brees for that but it was pretty clear that Caldwell not only stopped too soon but jumped too soon also.
He's also got 5 career fumbles with 76 career recptions and 12 kick returns. That's 1 about every 18 touches. That is completely terrible.
In Comparison
McCardell 8 fumbles (6 lost) 825 Rec. 38 k/p ret. (1 every 108 touches)
Gates 1 fumble 194 rec.
Parker 8 fumbles (6 lost) 139 rec. 33 p/k ret, (1 every 21...not good also! I think most of his were punt return muffs with 5 in 2004.)
Osgood 0 fumbles 30 rec.
Tomlinson 22 fumbles (8 lost) 2046 att/rec (1 every 93 touches)
Sproles 3 fumbles 92 att/rec/p/k ret. (1 every 31 touches)
You say he should have caught it, i say it was a bad pass. Not like Drew hasnt thrown any of those this year.
What "others" didnt he catch?
He made some tough cathes this year that kept drives alive and hasnt dropped one in two seasons now. Bottom line is the posters that dont have a clue or dont pay attention and say he has dropped too many passes and say he did it this year when he didnt drop any.
We could name every WR AND TE that ran a wrong route and dropped balls but yet Reche is the one that didnt drop any and gets crucified for it....LOL
Sometimes i wonder what some of these posters are watching.
Reche has really only had one bad year and that was the year he dropped a lot of passes. He also stayed healthy all year this time around AFTER coming back from a serious knee injury.
As for his fumbles....what? Your not going to count his 1 pass and 13 rushes?
BTW he has 14 KR's ( 2 are PR's)
Boltjolt
01-09-2006, 07:34 PM
I think the reduced playing time of Caldwell all season has been a signal that he was gone soon. We drafted VJ for the same reason we'll draft another WR this year... the performance isn't what we need it to be... we need a threat downfield that is legit. Right now, we don't seem to have a consistent one. We can **** and dunk short yardage with the best of them. We waited long enough on Caldwell to be what we expected him to be, and I don't think AJ is going to wait anymore. Parker is faster, taller, and much more clutch.
Didnt have anything to do with his knee injury huh?
He came back strong and quickly but im sure he wasnt 100% at the begining.
Im not going to bag on Parker at all but Parker isnt faster, is only 1" taller and weighs 35 lbs less than Caldwell :rolleyes:
Tomlinson21
01-09-2006, 07:47 PM
I hate to see Osgood go but he may get released I think.
LightzOut
01-09-2006, 08:04 PM
CHARGERS FREE AGENCY 2006
(updated from the start of the free-agent period to the start of training camp in July)
Unrestricted Free Agents
Drew Brees QB Unsigned
Reche Caldwell WR Unsigned
Justin Peelle TE Unsigned
Bob Hallen OG/C Unsigned
DeQuincy Scott DE/LB Unsigned
Ben Leber OL Unsigned
Carlos Polk LB Unsigned
Jamar Fletcher CB Unsigned
Restricted Free Agents
Kris Dielman OG Unsigned
Courtney Van Buren OT Unsigned
Kassim Osgood WR Unsigned
Andrew Pinnock FB Unsigned
Jacques Cesaire DE Unsigned
Matt Wilhelm LB Unsigned
Stephen Cooper LB Unsigned
Clinton Hart S Unsigned
I think they will bring back Fletcher and Hart for depth in the secondary. Wilhelm and Cooper played well when they got a chance and could challenge for a starting role after Godfrey retires. Cesaire is added depth for the D-line. Dielman I think returns as a starter at guard. Caldwell and Osgood are gone. I think VJ will have a breakout season and be a solid #2 next year. Parker and a couple of WR taken from the draft become #3,4,5.
rubbermusic
01-09-2006, 08:16 PM
You say he should have caught it, i say it was a bad pass. Not like Drew hasnt thrown any of those this year.
What "others" didnt he catch?
He made some tough cathes this year that kept drives alive and hasnt dropped one in two seasons now. Bottom line is the posters that dont have a clue or dont pay attention and say he has dropped too many passes and say he did it this year when he didnt drop any.
We could name every WR AND TE that ran a wrong route and dropped balls but yet Reche is the one that didnt drop any and gets crucified for it....LOL
Sometimes i wonder what some of these posters are watching.
Reche has really only had one bad year and that was the year he dropped a lot of passes. He also stayed healthy all year this time around AFTER coming back from a serious knee injury.
As for his fumbles....what? Your not going to count his 1 pass and 13 rushes?
BTW he has 14 KR's ( 2 are PR's)
It was a bad pass but it was still very catchable. Watch the replay he clearly stops when he has time to take at least another step or 2 to get him into a better position. He jumped too soon and was coming down as the ball arrived yet the ball barely went over his head, another step or two or better timing on the jump could've got us a touchdown or interference call but he failed at both.
I failed to notice the rushes for caldwell but it really doesn't make the result much different. He's fumbled 1 out of every 20 touches instead of 18. Still terrible along with Parker and Sproles.
mrkmacc21
01-09-2006, 09:40 PM
No way Keenan...even Cam said to a Houston reproter that keenan was a main part of our offense...he rounds it out along with Parker and Gates...Keenan is not going any where....IMHO
It was nice to hear a bit from one of our "other" coaches....!
I may be a fan 3000 miles away, and I heard Keenan signed an extention prior to my leaving the initial post, however when they got rid of Seau and Harrison...I was destroyed, and from that moment I will never put anything past NFL politics! The way things were done, I wouldn't be surprised if they retired with their current teams, especially in Seau's case.
mrkmacc21
01-09-2006, 09:46 PM
Didnt have anything to do with his knee injury huh?
He came back strong and quickly but im sure he wasnt 100% at the begining.
Im not going to bag on Parker at all but Parker isnt faster, is only 1" taller and weighs 35 lbs less than Caldwell :rolleyes:
I think Caldwell is the better receiver. It is "unfortunate" that Parker was the one of the two to manage to stay healthy enough to get the reps and build a connection with Brees. I personally think Caldwell is faster. It was said during the Colts game that he was the fastest Charger receiver...I don't know.
mrkmacc21
01-09-2006, 09:48 PM
It's sad but Caldwell will of course go to Denver or Kansas City (my prediction)and make us regret ever letting him go!
Fouts2Chandler
01-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Officially he had 0 drops this past year, but there are also balls that should've been caught that weren't. Prime example is Brees interception in the endzone where Caldwell stopped a couple steps too soon and then didn't time his jump right and the ball went right over his head for an interception. People blamed Brees for that but it was pretty clear that Caldwell not only stopped too soon but jumped too soon also.
Correction. People that have never played the game in any capacity other than Madden blamed Brees for that int. Clearly was Caldwell's fault and I'm glad Brees got in his face for it. I pray he doesn't return.
bigbolthead21
01-09-2006, 10:52 PM
CHARGERS FREE AGENCY 2006
(updated from the start of the free-agent period to the start of training camp in July)
Unrestricted Free Agents
Drew Brees QB Unsigned
Reche Caldwell WR Unsigned
Justin Peelle TE Unsigned
Bob Hallen OG/C Unsigned
DeQuincy Scott DE/LB Unsigned
Ben Leber OL Unsigned
Carlos Polk LB Unsigned
Jamar Fletcher CB Unsigned
Restricted Free Agents
Kris Dielman OG Unsigned
Courtney Van Buren OT Unsigned
Kassim Osgood WR Unsigned
Andrew Pinnock FB Unsigned
Jacques Cesaire DE Unsigned
Matt Wilhelm LB Unsigned
Stephen Cooper LB Unsigned
Clinton Hart S Unsigned
Ben Leber, carlos polk, jamar fletcher, bob hallen, van buren, pinnock, cesaire, will not come back. matt wilhelm might not come back because i heard somewhere that the browns want him as a starter. brees, caldwell, peelle, d quincy, dielman, osgood, cooper and hart will probably resign. caldwell will breakout next year along with VJ. dielman will remain a starter. I only see jerry wilson, and leander jordan getting cut.
Shamrock
01-09-2006, 10:59 PM
Donnie Edwards will get released.
mwooten
01-09-2006, 11:10 PM
Correction. People that have never played the game in any capacity other than Madden blamed Brees for that int. Clearly was Caldwell's fault and I'm glad Brees got in his face for it. I pray he doesn't return.
So based on your reasoning, you should also hope Brees does not return because of the INT against Denver that was clearly his fault...he also had more turnovers than his dreaded '03 season.
Can you guys give anyone a break?
Fouts2Chandler
01-09-2006, 11:51 PM
So based on your reasoning, you should also hope Brees does not return because of the INT against Denver that was clearly his fault...he also had more turnovers than his dreaded '03 season.
Can you guys give anyone a break?
He also made the Pro Bowl as an alternate and was 4th in TD passes.
Drew has shown he can get it done. Caldwell has shown that he:
A. Drops balls consistently
B. Fumbles in key situations
C. Doesn't run out his routes all the time
D. Dinosaur-arms across the middle
E. Can't beat anyone downfield
F. Can't stay healthy
G. Obviously doesn't learn fast because he's been in this system forever
SuperBowlBolts
01-10-2006, 12:00 AM
.I also think this maight be the year Edwards retires, as he really did lose a step last year. I know all about he tackles, but the run is funneled to the LB's so he is supposed to make a lot of tackles
yah, but being in the what top 3 in tackling is something a lot different from just a lot of tackles, i think part of him losing as step this season was his knee i believe he is getting surgery for it this off season
lchingon
01-10-2006, 12:01 AM
I hate to think this but, Leber might be one.:mad: Castillo and Merriman are a lock to be in there next year.
mrkmacc21
01-10-2006, 07:39 AM
Ben Leber, carlos polk, jamar fletcher, bob hallen, van buren, pinnock, cesaire, will not come back. matt wilhelm might not come back because i heard somewhere that the browns want him as a starter. brees, caldwell, peelle, d quincy, dielman, osgood, cooper and hart will probably resign. caldwell will breakout next year along with VJ. dielman will remain a starter. I only see jerry wilson, and leander jordan getting cut.
I agree and disagree:
Fletcher, Pinnock, Cesaire, Van Buren, and Jordan stay. Wilhelm is probably gonna' be somewhere else. I would like to see them continue to try Dequincy at LB, especially if we lose Godfrey, Leber and Polk. I think if we can keep Caldwell that this is his year! I like Parker, he's tough but small framed. Jerry Wilson is gone! Please let Jammer move to SS!
RIPgriggs
01-10-2006, 11:51 AM
No way Keenan...even Cam said to a Houston reproter that keenan was a main part of our offense...he rounds it out along with Parker and Gates...Keenan is not going any where....IMHO
It was nice to hear a bit from one of our "other" coaches....!
no way keenan goes. every week they have a TD play for keenan and he always runs the routes to perfection he had a big GAMES this year and came threw clutch everytime, not only that the guy had 9+ TD's rembember
dallas - 2 TDS
sunday night vs NYG - 2 TD's
jets - 1 td
phi - 1 td - matched TO's gay little end zone dance
buffalo - 1 td
mia - 1 td
INDY - 1 TD
this guy gets open when it counts, everytime we get to the 30 or 20 yard line close to redzone, "I YELL 87 87 THROW IT TO 87" i just want them to call keenan's number (87) cuz i know he will make the play.
The guy brought down that second foot against the jets for one the greatest all time wild card grabs ever! for a TD in the rain.. you cant match that.
the guy caught two touchdowns in san diego, against the raiders in the super bowl, we were VERY VERY lucky to grab him.... there is no way we are going to let him go.!
not to mention the way he puts his body up for plays that are not even touchdowns, for a guy that old to have the heart to go up in the middle and bring down balls when guys are trying to kill him... thats insane. i want that guy on my team.
RIPgriggs
01-10-2006, 11:57 AM
Why is it everyone wants Caldwell gone, but wants Osgood to stay so bad? Caldwell is a bigger contributor than Osgood...all he has done is good on ST.
Caldwell had a couple of fumbles, but so what? I think he & Tomlinson had the same for the year (granted LT touches it much more). Caldwell is one of our most talented receivers, and I think he and VJ are going to be big parts of our offense next year. Parker is a better # 3, and McCardell will probably be done after this next year if VJ emerges like I hope. I hope we keep Caldwell. I would like to keep Osgood for special teams, but if not, oh well...
caldwell is a cry baby, he fumbled that ball when we could have kicked a field goal and won it, he got hurt critical time during a possibly pro bowl type year. never fully recovered, i like caldwell i was one of his biggest backers.. but we need to give osgood a chance, i know no one has forgot what he did in KC in 04 he is one of the main reason why we beat KC in kc this centurythe huge play where he draged to KC defenders into the endzone, or when he showed his TRUE SPEED and caught dante hall from behind, surpised him so much that he fumbled the ball... the guy needs to be on the field.
RIPgriggs
01-10-2006, 12:02 PM
Correction. People that have never played the game in any capacity other than Madden blamed Brees for that int. Clearly was Caldwell's fault and I'm glad Brees got in his face for it. I pray he doesn't return.
what game was that? you guys said eariler but i am lazy j/k
RIPgriggs
01-10-2006, 12:05 PM
i would keep caldwell, let him and osgood and parker all fight through training camp that wil make at least 2 of them step up there game, the one who dont ( caldwell) will be gone unless he proves it, i think keil and wilson should be gone... if we are going to spend money on some safteys lets spend it on chris hope...
Boltjolt
01-10-2006, 04:40 PM
He also made the Pro Bowl as an alternate and was 4th in TD passes.
Drew has shown he can get it done. Caldwell has shown that he:
A. Drops balls consistently
B. Fumbles in key situations
C. Doesn't run out his routes all the time
D. Dinosaur-arms across the middle
E. Can't beat anyone downfield
F. Can't stay healthy
G. Obviously doesn't learn fast because he's been in this system forever
LOL...and you've shown you werent watching Chargers football this year.
Glad to see that Drew threw more INT's and still cant complete a long pass but once every 16 games in his "being in the system forever"
Im not trying to bag on Brees but half those reasons are just BS while you try to make an arguement.
Maybe we should put feelers our for Gates since he dropped his share of passes this year and ran a handful of wrong routes.
Fouts2Chandler
01-10-2006, 08:03 PM
LOL...and you've shown you werent watching Chargers football this year.
Glad to see that Drew threw more INT's and still cant complete a long pass but once every 16 games in his "being in the system forever"
Im not trying to bag on Brees but half those reasons are just BS while you try to make an arguement.
Maybe we should put feelers our for Gates since he dropped his share of passes this year and ran a handful of wrong routes.
LOL...I was watching Chargers football in its entirety as opposed to running the Phillip Rivers Fan Club How is it that I didn't watch this year? Because I don't agree with your thoughts on Brees?
The reasons I listed were why I felt Caldwell should not be resigned.
Of Brees' 15 INT's, I'd say that 2 or 3 of them were off tipped balls (Including the ball Gates had taken away from him), and two were on bad routes by the receiver. They just don't show up that way in the stats.
Personally, I'd like to see missed blocks be an official stat. Also, Caldwell in the Indy game is a good example of a crappy route that led to a pick. Not sure if you are familiar with how most QB's try to lead their receivers and its essential that the correct route be run. You're right though. Drew still had a better year in 04, but still made it as alternate pro bowler this year. Pretty damn good year. Can't throw the deep ball? I think we saw the deep ball a couple times this season. Not necessarily his strength, but he can do it...and he's accurate as hell.
SuperBowlBolts
01-10-2006, 08:26 PM
caldwell is a cry baby, he fumbled that ball when we could have kicked a field goal and won it, he got hurt critical time during a possibly pro bowl type year. never fully recovered, i like caldwell i was one of his biggest backers..
um if we kicked a field goal if he didnt fumble it would've been a tie game....
Fouts2Chandler
01-10-2006, 08:32 PM
um if we kicked a field goal if he didnt fumble it would've been a tie game....
That game was one big "if".
fastbolt19
01-10-2006, 08:42 PM
i say Terrence Kiel he makes too many mistatkes
bigbolthead21
01-10-2006, 10:56 PM
I want the chargers to realese David Binn, the long snapper, beacuse he takes up a roster spot and doesn't even play and his job can be taken care of by another more active and necessary player.
Fouts2Chandler
01-10-2006, 11:13 PM
I want the chargers to realese David Binn, the long snapper, beacuse he takes up a roster spot and doesn't even play and his job can be taken care of by another more active and necessary player.
Um...he is our long snapper and also is on special teams. Long Snapping is difficult to do. If you don't think so, look what happened on last week's playoff game to Cincy.
Boltjolt
01-10-2006, 11:23 PM
LOL...I was watching Chargers football in its entirety as opposed to running the Phillip Rivers Fan Club How is it that I didn't watch this year? Because I don't agree with your thoughts on Brees?
The reasons I listed were why I felt Caldwell should not be resigned.
Of Brees' 15 INT's, I'd say that 2 or 3 of them were off tipped balls (Including the ball Gates had taken away from him), and two were on bad routes by the receiver. They just don't show up that way in the stats.
Personally, I'd like to see missed blocks be an official stat. Also, Caldwell in the Indy game is a good example of a crappy route that led to a pick. Not sure if you are familiar with how most QB's try to lead their receivers and its essential that the correct route be run. You're right though. Drew still had a better year in 04, but still made it as alternate pro bowler this year. Pretty damn good year. Can't throw the deep ball? I think we saw the deep ball a couple times this season. Not necessarily his strength, but he can do it...and he's accurate as hell.
My main thing here isnt Drew.
I threw in what i did to show what a guy did being in this "system forever" and didnt do as well as the year before . You used that "been in the system forever" about Caldwell.
However, i will say one thing about Drew.
I dont care how many tipped passes were intercepted because he also had many that were poorly thrown right to a defender that was dropped....lke the one in his last game that he threw right to Ian Gold that would have been 6 points for Denver, but Gold dropped it.
imo those pasess and the tipped ones are pretty much a wash.
Its goes both ways.
Anyways the reasons you listed why Caldwell shouldnt be resigned ...as i said were unfounded...that was my mainpoint, but like you said....it is your opinion and if your opinion is that he dropped too many passes this year...then i say again. You must not have been watching Chargers football this year because he didnt drop one pass and in fact ws clutch on some very tough catches to keep drives alive, and he wasnt injured. His knee probably wasnt 100% whe he came back but other than that, he was healthy. He also is our fastest WR and we've seen him beat many downfield . They have to get the ball to him.
Sirbob
01-11-2006, 02:13 AM
Keepers:
matt wilhelm has great upside!
Jamar fletcher a normal CB
Osgood is a WR backup and a ST help!
Hart has hart! good backup!
Gone:
Caldwell needs to fumble away to UFA land.
Leander Jordan Bu-by bounced on his backside one last time.
Donnie Edwards leads tackles because he doesn't dislodge the ball for the target. wraps up and pads stats.
Ben Leber
Jerry Wilson
superCHARGED
01-11-2006, 02:22 AM
Please get rid of Leandar Jordan!!!
Balboa 1961
01-11-2006, 06:39 PM
I agree and disagree:
Fletcher, Pinnock, Cesaire, Van Buren, and Jordan stay. Wilhelm is probably gonna' be somewhere else. I would like to see them continue to try Dequincy at LB, especially if we lose Godfrey, Leber and Polk. I think if we can keep Caldwell that this is his year! I like Parker, he's tough but small framed. Jerry Wilson is gone! Please let Jammer move to SS!
Don't agree about Wilhelm. He's only an RFA, so AJ can keep him by making a qualified offer. He seemed to get a lot more playing time toward the end of the season.
misterbigjoe
01-11-2006, 06:50 PM
who cares if any one is released in the secondary. i love my team but this secondary is pitiful to watch at times. davis is always hurt. so no big loss there.bawjue, no biggie. and come on guys, lay off reche. cant blame a guy for tryin to make a play.he's got alot of promise for our future.hopefully we can get a quality player for our secondary, you know we need it.sure be nice to see some INT's in the secondary stats and not the linebackers.
BoltsaremyGod
01-11-2006, 07:15 PM
Gone:
Donnie Edwards leads tackles because he doesn't dislodge the ball for the target. wraps up and pads stats.
You are criticizing Edwards because he tackles correctly???
Edwards isn't even a free agent.
If we release our starting ILB we add to our needs. That makes no sense.
Tomlinson21
01-11-2006, 07:22 PM
Sammy Davis
Ben Leber
Kassim Osgood
Justin Peele
Possibly Reche Caldwell (he's a wildcard for me honestly)
SuperBowlBolts
01-11-2006, 07:55 PM
That game was one big "if".
haha i know it was a big if but another poster was saying we kick a field goal and we win...just wanted to correct the guy....anyway yets a big if lol
Thunderstruck21
01-11-2006, 07:59 PM
David Binn is the only player left from the 1994-1995 super bowl team, obviously he does his job very well and gets paid near the minimum pay for an NFL player. Also every team has a long snapper and david binn is one of the best in the league, if not the best.
SuperBowlBolts
01-11-2006, 08:14 PM
I want the chargers to realese David Binn, the long snapper, beacuse he takes up a roster spot and doesn't even play and his job can be taken care of by another more active and necessary player.
um....not so sure what your talking about, its gonna be hard for us to find a better long snapper the binn....
Tomlinson21
01-11-2006, 10:00 PM
David Binn is the only player left from the 1994-1995 super bowl team, obviously he does his job very well and gets paid near the minimum pay for an NFL player. Also every team has a long snapper and david binn is one of the best in the league, if not the best.
David Binn = Long Snapper (he's secured for the next 5-10 years if you ask me!)
He stays. When have you seen David Binn do a bad snap...I think he did one last year but I wasn't sure if that was a pre season gameor what not...but how many times have you heard people on the radio and tv go: "Bad snap?". I have yet to hear that on him since he's been a Charger IMO. We need to keep him.
BoltsfanNYC
01-11-2006, 10:00 PM
I love the idea of Jammer to SS and sign nate clements !!! that would be awesome...
then we could simplify draft best T-WR 1st round
then best in second round... ie if wr in 1 T in 2!
then in 3rd CB depth needed and let sammy walk! 4th I would get a QB trade rivers and with that pick add max jean giles!
then I get a LB-DT- TE to run out the draft!
fregon
01-12-2006, 03:16 PM
David Binn = Long Snapper (he's secured for the next 5-10 years if you ask me!)
He stays. When have you seen David Binn do a bad snap...I think he did one last year but I wasn't sure if that was a pre season gameor what not...but how many times have you heard people on the radio and tv go: "Bad snap?". I have yet to hear that on him since he's been a Charger IMO. We need to keep him.
Actually he did do "one" agaisnt the Faiders at home (to clarify the record)... fortunately Scifers had enough time to re-adjust, set and punt because the Faiders never rushed to block the punt. It was crazy... Scifers actually had something like 4-5 seconds to punt that ball!
I say D Binn stays too as well... he is really good at long snapping... plus he is THE ONLY player left from the 94 team. He also has been mistaken to be Drew Brees :p by some Philly kid in "Six days to Sunday"
fregon
01-12-2006, 03:27 PM
Sammy Davis
Ben Leber
Kassim Osgood
Justin Peele
Possibly Reche Caldwell (he's a wildcard for me honestly)
Sammy aggreed...
Ben Leber.... not sure, I wonder what he can do playing ILB
Kassim Osgood... great ST and thats that... sorry but he rarely gets open
Justin Peelle... what are you smoking! he is our best blocking TE and can also catch the ball. Unless you can get Dunn from KC I do not see Peelle going anywhere any time soon
Reche Caldwell... agreed... too much of a wildcard. I thought this year he would pick up right where he left off but after that fumble agaisnt Eagles and some clutch catches I have mix feelings. Parker for sure is a keeper... (to my surprise as he came around late last season... i didnt like him at the beginning of 04 season)
Mr. Heisman
01-25-2006, 02:58 PM
Sammy davids gone we sign Flecter for a year, caldwell going going gone! oh boy...Mrs. Caldwell is gunna be mad! Sorry lady ur lil boy never produced!, Wilson gone will pick up a rookie in 6-7 round for depth! hodges, hallen will stay but probably on the practice squad! we need to find a starter for that position wheather it's a rookie or free agent! Sproles i say might be cut if he doesn't produce in preseason don't be suprised! Parker took over his punts and turner took over his kickoff! and will find a free agent to do it better and possible a rookie!
Charles Woodson take #24 back to the promise land! Become a Charger!!!!
SuperBowlBolts
01-25-2006, 04:31 PM
I love the idea of Jammer to SS and sign nate clements !!! that would be awesome...
then we could simplify draft best T-WR 1st round
then best in second round... ie if wr in 1 T in 2!
then in 3rd CB depth needed and let sammy walk! 4th I would get a QB trade rivers and with that pick add max jean giles!
then I get a LB-DT- TE to run out the draft!
wow no mention of o-line improvement? How do you expect our QB to throw to a WR if hes getting knocked down? plus i hope you dont expect for a WR to come out of the draft and dominate the nfl as a rookie. No mention of a safety either.....where have you been?
BoltsfanNYC
01-25-2006, 04:43 PM
umm you didnt read.... 1st round it said T-WR! and if we get WR in 1st then 2nd T!!! and so on...
my wish list is
1. T = PRIORITY! 1st round or VET maybe 2nd if major slippage in tackles!
2. S = 2nd PRIORITY unless guys step UP! Vet prefered
3. ILB=n Greenway @ 19 arrington if good value!
4. G hutchinson- Or Oliveea if we get tackle!
5. C=lebently or mawae... mangold...
6. CB=3rd round - vet preferred
7. FS= UPSide draft pick 4-7 rounds range.
8. DT = depth
this all matters on Combines senior week and FA signings... that will guide our draft. OH AND BREES situation...
for instance/// NO BREES then.... Free Agent T-C- WR
we must protect RIVERS and make it like what BIG BEN HAD... WEAPONS... RUNNING GAME and a great line///
right now we have LT- serviceable line and GATES!
we need BETTER LINE AND A RS #1
then ILB-S-CB DRAFT S VET FA!
LarryAW
01-26-2006, 05:02 PM
Most likely Feely if he doesn't agree on a new contract, but I've read articles that says he wants to redo his contract so he can stay a Charger. (I like his attitude)
I believe Caldwell will get the axe. He blew the Eagles game for that, if I'm a GM, I don't want a player that blows games for you.
I like Feely's attitude, too. I hope he restructures and stays a Charger.
I think Reche is one of those players who will drive you crazy. I think he has quite a bit of potential, but I am not sure he will ever reach it -- just keep showing flashes. He is a FA and I am not sure if they will re-sign him or not.
thefreak676
01-26-2006, 05:32 PM
Every body wants offensive lineman but i don't get it half the year the oline was hurt....Carl Mauck in my opinion isn't that great of a coach and anyways obens back during th 2004 season prople were praising the oline and its the same players except deilman for fonuti(an upgrade i might ad). If we get a new coach and some depth well be set. as for caldwell he has such a upside i would hate to let him go and then he become a star with in the right situation......
In the draft we need a FS to go with kiel, get clements out off buffalo and let jammer have one more year he has developed a lot in the past couple. get reggie wayne and or antwan rande el. in the second round go after a ilb to take over for godfrey or you could get that guy chad greenway if you trade rivers.....
SuperBowlBolts
01-26-2006, 08:03 PM
umm you didnt read.... 1st round it said T-WR! and if we get WR in 1st then 2nd T!!! and so on...
my wish list is
1. T = PRIORITY! 1st round or VET maybe 2nd if major slippage in tackles!
2. S = 2nd PRIORITY unless guys step UP! Vet prefered
3. ILB=n Greenway @ 19 arrington if good value!
4. G hutchinson- Or Oliveea if we get tackle!
5. C=lebently or mawae... mangold...
6. CB=3rd round - vet preferred
7. FS= UPSide draft pick 4-7 rounds range.
8. DT = depth
this all matters on Combines senior week and FA signings... that will guide our draft. OH AND BREES situation...
for instance/// NO BREES then.... Free Agent T-C- WR
we must protect RIVERS and make it like what BIG BEN HAD... WEAPONS... RUNNING GAME and a great line///
right now we have LT- serviceable line and GATES!
we need BETTER LINE AND A RS #1
then ILB-S-CB DRAFT S VET FA!
ah i see that clears things up.
man i dont want anymore young guys starting in our secondary unless his name is ko simpson.
SuperBowlBolts
01-26-2006, 08:06 PM
Every body wants offensive lineman but i don't get it half the year the oline was hurt....Carl Mauck in my opinion isn't that great of a coach and anyways obens back during th 2004 season prople were praising the oline and its the same players except deilman for fonuti(an upgrade i might ad). If we get a new coach and some depth well be set. as for caldwell he has such a upside i would hate to let him go and then he become a star with in the right situation......
In the draft we need a FS to go with kiel, get clements out off buffalo and let jammer have one more year he has developed a lot in the past couple. get reggie wayne and or antwan rande el. in the second round go after a ilb to take over for godfrey or you could get that guy chad greenway if you trade rivers.....
The thing is oben is nearing retirement. Were gonna need a LT. Best way to groom one is to draft one. Let him play RT and move Olivea to RG and then let Goff and Dielmen fight it out for the starting LG position. Then in the 07-08 season you switch our RT to LT with a season under of experience under his belt now, then get another RT.
Bo1TZ
01-27-2006, 02:57 AM
Please get rid of Leandar Jordan!!!
I couldn't agree more. I think Jordan was on more ESPN highlights than any of the other Chargers, including Tomlinson, but usually for the other team. Left tackle is possibly the most important position on the offense and I sure loved seeing Bress get blindsided time and time again. Draft a quality left tackle, or upgrade through free agency. Jordan needs to go. The free agency crop is pretty thin though... We could upgrade every postion on the O-line. Goff and Hardwick didn't play all that great, Olivea played average at best, Oben is about 54, and Dielman should not be starting.
Leber will be gone. He wants to go somewhere that he can start.
Wilhelm likely won't come back either. He could be a NFL starter.
Caldwell should be gone too. I'm sick of his crybaby attitude. Possibly Randell El, although I doubt he wants out of Pittsburgh, or we could grab a burner like Sinorice Moss out of the U in the second or third round.
Sammy Davis is a bust. We should restructure his contract, or just release him if it doesn't result in huge cap penalties. I'd like to see someone like Jerry Azuma or Charles Woodson or possibly Ricky Manning come in and play corner.
Jerry Wilson is out as well. Jammer, please move to safety!
I wouldn't be surprised to see a vet like Edwards or McCardell released. Seau and Harrision both got shipped out of town which surprised most of us.
Mr. Heisman
01-27-2006, 03:04 AM
Seau and Harrision were ship out due to butler getting hungry! he wanted money their contract was almost up they had a year left or so and they wait he figure their time was up! Donnie and McCardell have 3 more years left and aint goin nowhere!!!!
Bring us C-Wood! Charles Woodson come on down! ur the next SAN DIEGO CHARGERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!! (plus think we can get him into training camp early and have him take reps at WR since he use to play that at Michigan!!! then we can slot him in from time to time! Bam! Double Profit!
hartleyjc1
01-27-2006, 05:39 AM
I agree with you Carl Mauck sucked bad. Need to draft a LT with the first pick. I think we need to go veteran on the CB and WR problem. I hear both Eric Moulds and Jimmy Smith are going to be cap casualties. I don't think we need an all-pro wideout. I think we just need someone who is good for about 8 TDs and 800 to 1000 yards. I hear alot of people on this forum chanting for Rod Woodson. Do we really want a former Raider suiting up in our beloved powder blues. When is the last time we ever signed a former Raider. I can't think of one.
Every body wants offensive lineman but i don't get it half the year the oline was hurt....Carl Mauck in my opinion isn't that great of a coach and anyways obens back during th 2004 season prople were praising the oline and its the same players except deilman for fonuti(an upgrade i might ad). If we get a new coach and some depth well be set. as for caldwell he has such a upside i would hate to let him go and then he become a star with in the right situation......
In the draft we need a FS to go with kiel, get clements out off buffalo and let jammer have one more year he has developed a lot in the past couple. get reggie wayne and or antwan rande el. in the second round go after a ilb to take over for godfrey or you could get that guy chad greenway if you trade rivers.....
BoltsfanNYC
01-27-2006, 09:34 AM
first of all... we are in great shape... thhis is a bad FA market for most teams for us it is great...
there are 3-4 tackles
4-5 Cbs
3+ safeties
2 all pro centers...
if we get 2 of the mentioned... we can then draft ILB or S or G T whaterv we need with our top 2 picks..
Mr. Heisman
01-27-2006, 09:41 AM
I agree with you Carl Mauck sucked bad. Need to draft a LT with the first pick. I think we need to go veteran on the CB and WR problem. I hear both Eric Moulds and Jimmy Smith are going to be cap casualties. I don't think we need an all-pro wideout. I think we just need someone who is good for about 8 TDs and 800 to 1000 yards. I hear alot of people on this forum chanting for Rod Woodson. Do we really want a former Raider suiting up in our beloved powder blues. When is the last time we ever signed a former Raider. I can't think of one.
Umm last i check he was retired. He works for the nfl network too. If you ment Charles Woodson, then i say hell yeah! That guy is what we need! Plus he wanted out of Oakland last year before he got tagged! He wanted to leave just like the two buchanon's did!
SuperBowlBolts
01-27-2006, 04:02 PM
I agree with you Carl Mauck sucked bad. Need to draft a LT with the first pick. I think we need to go veteran on the CB and WR problem. I hear both Eric Moulds and Jimmy Smith are going to be cap casualties. I don't think we need an all-pro wideout. I think we just need someone who is good for about 8 TDs and 800 to 1000 yards. I hear alot of people on this forum chanting for Rod Woodson. Do we really want a former Raider suiting up in our beloved powder blues. When is the last time we ever signed a former Raider. I can't think of one.
Um McCardell = 900+ yds and 9 TDs....
Boltjolt
01-27-2006, 07:14 PM
Wilhelm likely won't come back either. He could be a NFL starter.
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Wilhelm is a RFA so he isnt going anywhere. He will probably get the highest tender which would cost another team a 1st and a 3rd to sign him from us.
edbeck1
01-28-2006, 09:20 AM
:confused: I am afraid that our team will let Jamar Fletcher get away. Fletcher intensely needs to win and his attitude is infectious. All the Chargers need to do is look at Jamar Fletcher's lifetime statistics to see that he overcomes every obstacle in order to accomplish his goals. Hopefully, Fletcher will be allowed to energize the Chargers.:Bolt:
Bo1TZ
01-28-2006, 02:23 PM
I agree with you Carl Mauck sucked bad. Need to draft a LT with the first pick. I think we need to go veteran on the CB and WR problem. I hear both Eric Moulds and Jimmy Smith are going to be cap casualties. I don't think we need an all-pro wideout. I think we just need someone who is good for about 8 TDs and 800 to 1000 yards. I hear alot of people on this forum chanting for Rod Woodson. Do we really want a former Raider suiting up in our beloved powder blues. When is the last time we ever signed a former Raider. I can't think of one.
Two receiver over 35 starting? I don't think so that sounds like a terrible plan. Neither Smith or Moulds is a deep threat both are better versions of McCardell. We need a young guy who has burner speed starting opposite a veteran possesion receiver.
wikimama
01-28-2006, 09:55 PM
I like Jamar Fletcher alot also, he is a better CB than Sammt "Toast" Davis.
They should resign him and sign Will Demps at SS and draft a DB in the 2-3 round.
JoeMcRugby
01-29-2006, 12:13 AM
Seau and Harrision were ship out due to butler getting hungry! he wanted money their contract was almost up they had a year left or so and they wait he figure their time was up! Donnie and McCardell have 3 more years left and aint goin nowhere!!!!
The Chargers save $2 million on the 2006 cap by releasing Edwards. It's a distinct possibility that it happens this offseason to the third highest salaried Charger - look for Wilhelm to take over his job if it happens.
McCardell just got his extension - cutting him would cost the Chargers cap space. He's going nowhere.
JoeMcRugby
01-29-2006, 12:16 AM
Two receiver over 35 starting? I don't think so that sounds like a terrible plan. Neither Smith or Moulds is a deep threat both are better versions of McCardell. We need a young guy who has burner speed starting opposite a veteran possesion receiver.
Vincent Jackson. :)
boltskickass21
01-29-2006, 12:42 AM
Caldwell is toast, so is Sammy Davis. I dont know why everyone is hating on Donnie and Keenan. They are getting up there in age, but they were the glue that kept our team together. They put up solid numbers (even career highs) and produced a good leadership on our team. Why would we let them go when we are that close to taking the final step?
Mr. Heisman
01-29-2006, 01:54 AM
Donnie already restructor his contract! He should have either 2 years left counting this year or 3! It was reported midseason. I remember seeing it post on the chargers.com much like mr. 81! Mr. San Diego state himself was posted a day ago!
edbeck1
01-29-2006, 05:20 AM
I know that I have been concentrating on Jamar Fletcher but I am convinced that he is a very important part of the Chargers future successes. Fletcher continually tunes up his body through exercise and diet readying himself for the upcoming season and beyond. Hard work and smart work are the keys to winning.:Helmet: Fletcher is our man.:Football:
LightningStorm
01-29-2006, 07:45 AM
Two receiver over 35 starting? I don't think so that sounds like a terrible plan. Neither Smith or Moulds is a deep threat both are better versions of McCardell. We need a young guy who has burner speed starting opposite a veteran possesion receiver.
Dude rod woodson is on the NFL network yes he played for the raiders about three years ago. You must mean charles woodson and yes I would take him as a corner he is a shut down corner and would have hatred towards the raiders. charles has play making ability and is a great ball stripper always around the ball my only concern is his durability he missed games the last two years but played thru some tough ones also.
abnewcombe
01-29-2006, 08:50 AM
The thing I am wondering is if Godfrey is gonna be back next season? I know he has contemplated retirement with the loss of his sister during the season. Also, I do think that A.J. will go after, preferably a veteran DB as opposed to drafting one. I am certain their are some quality CB's becoming free agents this off season and SD could jump on any of them with the cap space they have. So with the question on DB's and the MLB position in question, I would say they address both in free agency and address depth in teh draft. I wouldn't mind seeing Ray Ray in the middle if Godfrey decided to walk away. Would be terribly interesting with him, Donnie, "Lights Out" and Foley in the front seven. I would say the QB's should be pretty fearful if that was the case. :)
SuperBowlBolts
01-29-2006, 11:39 AM
Donnie already restructor his contract! He should have either 2 years left counting this year or 3! It was reported midseason. I remember seeing it post on the chargers.com much like mr. 81! Mr. San Diego state himself was posted a day ago!
donnie didnt restructer, i believe he wanted a pay raise. For those who are asking why hate on donnie its not because of age. Its two things it saves us cap space also donnie isnt what he used to be when he tackles he gets dragged for a yd or two now times that by 100+ tackles and thats a whole lot of yards. I wouldnt be suprised if he is cut/traded but i would like him to stay at least for another year.
SuperBowlBolts
01-29-2006, 11:40 AM
The thing I am wondering is if Godfrey is gonna be back next season? I know he has contemplated retirement with the loss of his sister during the season. Also, I do think that A.J. will go after, preferably a veteran DB as opposed to drafting one. I am certain their are some quality CB's becoming free agents this off season and SD could jump on any of them with the cap space they have. So with the question on DB's and the MLB position in question, I would say they address both in free agency and address depth in teh draft. I wouldn't mind seeing Ray Ray in the middle if Godfrey decided to walk away. Would be terribly interesting with him, Donnie, "Lights Out" and Foley in the front seven. I would say the QB's should be pretty fearful if that was the case. :)
are you talking about ray lewis? i think the guy would want a huge payday. i dont see us giving us a huge pay day to anyone that old.
TCUFAN5
01-29-2006, 12:15 PM
i think we need to go for the BEST players available in the positions we need. if we wanna win we need the best and if the best cost us a LIL money then id rather be in the superbowl with high pay people and we get the money back after the SB win than play with SUB-Par people and be like we were this year and say well we need more defensive backs those people we signed this year didnt really help..i wish we could have gotten such and such when we had the money instead of going cheap and picking up this person you know??? SPEND IT AJ that's what is there for...
crazyman33
01-29-2006, 05:08 PM
Ya we could got Donnie and save 2 million or whatever, but its not lik were fighting to get under the salary cap. We are like 20 million under. We could use Donnie's leadership for another season.
JoeMcRugby
01-29-2006, 06:30 PM
Donnie already restructor his contract! He should have either 2 years left counting this year or 3! It was reported midseason. I remember seeing it post on the chargers.com much like mr. 81! Mr. San Diego state himself was posted a day ago!
Donnie didn't restructure his contract. He still has two years to run on the contract he signed in 2002.
The news at midseason was that he wants a new deal despite the fact that he'll be the third highest paid Charger for the 2006 and 2007 seasons - if the Chargers don't release him or he agrees to a restructuring.
SuperBowlBolts
01-29-2006, 06:32 PM
Ya we could got Donnie and save 2 million or whatever, but its not lik were fighting to get under the salary cap. We are like 20 million under. We could use Donnie's leadership for another season.
which is why i dont want him cut, but like i said i wouldnt be suprised if he were cut.
JoeMcRugby
01-29-2006, 06:36 PM
Ya we could got Donnie and save 2 million or whatever, but its not lik were fighting to get under the salary cap. We are like 20 million under. We could use Donnie's leadership for another season.
We don't need Donnie's leadership.
What we need is some hardnosed tackling at or near the line of scrimmage and much improved pass coverage in that huge hole in the 10 to 15 yard range in the center of the field from our ILBs.
Donnie must be much better in those areas going into next year than he was in 2005 (when he admittedly had a meniscus tear in one of his knees). Otherwise, AJ will save the $2 million in cap space and insert Wilhelm into his starting postion.
Chargers GM
01-30-2006, 09:17 AM
Aj Smith will trade Rivers and this years third round and next years third round to either the titans or the saints. Then take ferguson. With our pick take huff or holmes.
Chargeroo
01-30-2006, 09:56 AM
Aj Smith will trade Rivers and this years third round and next years third round to either the titans or the saints. Then take ferguson. With our pick take huff or holmes.AJ has said several times that Rivers will still be a Charger next season. Great idea to get D'Brick but AJ wants to keep Rivers.
Chargeroo
01-30-2006, 09:59 AM
I know that I have been concentrating on Jamar Fletcher but I am convinced that he is a very important part of the Chargers future successes. Fletcher continually tunes up his body through exercise and diet readying himself for the upcoming season and beyond. Hard work and smart work are the keys to winning.:Helmet: Fletcher is our man.:Football: I like Fletcher too but he's a free agent and has said he'd like to go where he can get more playing time so we may not be able to keep him. Of course, Osgood said the same thing but signed a new four year deal the other day so I guess there's still hope.
LT LT LT
01-30-2006, 10:48 AM
Can Donnie make a full recovery from that knee issue this year? I love donnie a lot and think he is a great player but this year I could tell something was wrong.
Ikeman83
01-30-2006, 02:02 PM
it's a common injury, he'll be back... the question is will he play like he did in 04? What game did he tear his Meniscus?
Ikeman83
01-30-2006, 02:32 PM
I apparently was totally wrong, I figured Polk was gone. If he isn't injured this year then we'll have three really good special teams players on our kickoff coverage.
LarryAW
01-30-2006, 11:54 PM
I think the reduced playing time of Caldwell all season has been a signal that he was gone soon. We drafted VJ for the same reason we'll draft another WR this year... the performance isn't what we need it to be... we need a threat downfield that is legit. Right now, we don't seem to have a consistent one. We can **** and dunk short yardage with the best of them. We waited long enough on Caldwell to be what we expected him to be, and I don't think AJ is going to wait anymore. Parker is faster, taller, and much more clutch. (Bondsman!). Even so, I think the ideal is McCardell opposite a deep threat with height (VJ, Osgood if they can rise up their game) and Parker as the 3rd receiver. Parker is a great guy and I wish him the best of all things, I hope he stays with the team forever. Caldwell, I am saying thanks for the effort, but perhaps it's time to move on.
Of the other names, I don't know what the situation is with Davis, but I don't know if we can part ways with him and the HUGE contract without a serious cap hit. I like him and his improvement, I just wish he would restructure to his playing level (haha).
Overall, we are disappointed in everyone in the secondary. Jammer pledges to pay $1000 for each INT this year and gets 1! I think much of it is the puckering play calls that we get from the coaches sometimes when we stop being aggressive on the pass rush (should we ever rush less than 5????!?!?!). I still have hope for most of these young players and would like to see them succeed. I really have found great plays this year from all top 3 CB's. I just want one to pop out their like Bailey or O'Neal.... but I know those guys are rare.
I see us losing Jerry Wilson this off season.
I am pretty sure we say goodbye to Reche Caldwell.
I think if Oben is healthy soon, Leander Jordan goes away.... he gave up many big sacks despite the praise.
I think Leber and Polk go though I hope we keep Leber.
I think Godfrey stays for 1 more season.
Not sure if anyone gets cut before free agency, but if so I think it comes from this list.
I just want to remind you that VJ came from a small school. I didn't expect him to do much at all last year. This year, I think he will make an impact. He certainly has the tools. Even so, I wouldn't mind AJ picking up a WR in FA or later in the draft.
Ikeman83
01-30-2006, 11:55 PM
We have something like 3 sixth round picks... I can definitely see us drafting a WR on the second day.
LarryAW
01-31-2006, 12:11 AM
The Chargers save $2 million on the 2006 cap by releasing Edwards. It's a distinct possibility that it happens this offseason to the third highest salaried Charger - look for Wilhelm to take over his job if it happens.
McCardell just got his extension - cutting him would cost the Chargers cap space. He's going nowhere.
And Keenan produced. If he was on his last legs, I would understand it. But he didn't play like he was old last year. If he brings a cane or walker to training camp this year, then I'll be worried. ;) A young VJ can learn, and I am sure he has learned, a lot from Keenan. I think Keenan has a few more catches left.
abnewcombe
01-31-2006, 07:13 AM
are you talking about ray lewis? i think the guy would want a huge payday. i dont see us giving us a huge pay day to anyone that old.
I know he is talking big money but Ray Lewis(yes, who I was speaking of) would fit into the system nicely. But that would be only if he can stay healthy of course. Besides, He is no older than Foley or Godfrey. He may be talking big money but the thing is, he may have to settle for a 1-2 year deal for a little less than he is asking because I think the money he WANTS won't be what he gets. But a lot depends on who stays aboard, he gets released and what A.J.'s plans for the draft are. But I do beleive the biggest need at this point is the CB position. There are a few of those in free agency this season. :Beer:
Ikeman83
01-31-2006, 01:46 PM
CB is hardly the biggest need, either through the draft or FA. It could be a nice upgrade, but it's hardly a need. Pittsburghs corners are hardly exceptional, but they get the job done because they have great safeties.
We need to improve at safety and along the O-line. Any kind of CB signing is gravy at best.