If you had one choice....

[boltskickass21]

If any player in the NFL you wanted to would become a FA and sign with the chargers, who would it be? Anybody in the NFL that you would want on the Chargers (note: we would not lose anyone).

For me, it is Troy Polamalu. Discuss

[SuperBowlBolts]

If any player in the NFL you wanted to would become a FA and sign with the chargers, who would it be? Anybody in the NFL that you would want on the Chargers (note: we would not lose anyone).

For me, it is Troy Polamalu. Discuss
I agree with you

[TJ21]

Champ Bailey no question. :Beer:

Polamalu's great, but you'd be crazy if you didn't think he gets too much attention. The media circus around his devotion to the game and his appearance has taken away from the fact that he only had 2 picks (3 if you count the INDY pick) and 3 sacks. That's not much by my standards. Jammer had 4 in his second season. Jue had more picks then Polamalu this season, and he was hurt a lot. I get annoyed when people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread simply because the media chose to fixate themselves on him.

Champ Bailey, on the other hand, HAD EIGHT INTERCEPTIONS, and returned two for touchdowns. By my standards that's production, plain and simple. Troy Polamalu would be lucky to produce half that in any given season in his career. I'd kill to have Champ. :Beer:

[maxiee]

Champ Bailey no question. :Beer:

Polamalu's great, but you'd be crazy if you didn't think he gets too much attention. The media circus around his devotion to the game and his appearance has taken away from the fact that he only had 2 picks (3 if you count the INDY pick) and 3 sacks. That's not much by my standards. Jammer had 4 in his second season. Jue had more picks then Polamalu this season, and he was hurt a lot. I get annoyed when people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread simply because the media chose to fixate themselves on him.

Champ Bailey, on the other hand, HAD EIGHT INTERCEPTIONS, and returned two for touchdowns. By my standards that's production, plain and simple. Troy Polamalu would be lucky to produce half that in any given season in his career. I'd kill to have Champ. :Beer:

There were years when Bailey had only 3 picks. Does that mean during those years he was overrated? I doubt it. Picks are not the whole story. Polamalu's speed is what people rave about, not his coverage ability.

[TJ21]

There were years when Bailey had only 3 picks. Does that mean during those years he was overrated? I doubt it. Picks are not the whole story. Polamalu's speed is what people rave about, not his coverage ability.
Good for him. I'd still rather have Bailey. He makes the big plays, Polamalu's an elite safety. But Champ Bailey is the greatest CB in the league.

[boltskickass21]

Champ Bailey no question. :Beer:

Polamalu's great, but you'd be crazy if you didn't think he gets too much attention. The media circus around his devotion to the game and his appearance has taken away from the fact that he only had 2 picks (3 if you count the INDY pick) and 3 sacks. That's not much by my standards. Jammer had 4 in his second season. Jue had more picks then Polamalu this season, and he was hurt a lot. I get annoyed when people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread simply because the media chose to fixate themselves on him.

Champ Bailey, on the other hand, HAD EIGHT INTERCEPTIONS, and returned two for touchdowns. By my standards that's production, plain and simple. Troy Polamalu would be lucky to produce half that in any given season in his career. I'd kill to have Champ. :Beer:
Remember, Troy is still only in his third year next year. I would take Troy over Champ any day because Troy brings an x-factor to the defense. Troy can do so many things, it is unimaginable. He can cover, hit, stuff the run, get after the QB, bring an energy to the defense, and just make big plays. Champ is a great corner, but with so much potential in an emerging star in Polamalu I have to take him.

[SuperBowlBolts]

Good for him. I'd still rather have Bailey. He makes the big plays, Polamalu's an elite safety. But Champ Bailey is the greatest CB in the league.
Polamalu is the greatest SS in the league. Hes 20 yards deep one second the next second hes tackling someone behind the line. He may have not had the greats # of picks or sacks but he did help cause a lot and he did get in the QBs face enough to cause incompletions and INTs. Sorry, but Polamalu is just crazy and is everywhere on the field.

[TJ21]

Polamalu is the greatest SS in the league. Hes 20 yards deep one second the next second hes tackling someone behind the line. He may have not had the greats # of picks or sacks but he did help cause a lot and he did get in the QBs face enough to cause incompletions and INTs. Sorry, but Polamalu is just crazy and is everywhere on the field.
Eye of the beholder, I suppose. :Beer:

[boltskickass21]

Oh, i forgot, offenses have to account for him every single down. He is everywhere and anywhere on the field. Champ is still over guarding the reciever. Troy is comparable to Reggie Bush last year, where you had to keep your eyes on him at all times, or be sorry.

[Boltman19]

I'd take Troy, or Walter Jones.


Remember during the week of the Steelers game, everyone was saying that Troy was overrated, I wonder where all those idiots went.

[TJ21]

Oh, i forgot, offenses have to account for him every single down. He is everywhere and anywhere on the field. Champ is still over guarding the reciever. Troy is comparable to Reggie Bush last year, where you had to keep your eyes on him at all times, or be sorry.
Seahawks seemed to be completing a lot of passes. Whens the last time a reciever beat Champ? I'm done with this conversation, with all due respect, we're not going to agree with each other and the topic is boring me. Nice thread though. :Beer:

Remember during the week of the Steelers game, everyone was saying that Troy was overrated, I wonder where all those idiots went.
I'm still here. "Troy is overated." You can quote me. Last time I watched that game, Antonio was able to catch some good looking passes while being covered by Troy.

Oh and the Seahawks only touchdown was scored with Troy as the defender.

Don't call me an idiot please.

[SD_Connection]

Toss up between Polamalu or Ed Reed. Cant decide...

[HeadTrip]

Troy played terrible in the SB, but in his defense, he was on a bad ankle and didn't practice as much as he could have.

I think you guys are forgetting about how great Ed Reed is. The guy may have been injured this year, but he is the still the big dawg at SS. I would take him or Walter Jones in that order if possible.

[TJ21]

I forgot about Walter Jones (how?!?!). Yeah it's a toss up between Champ and Walter.

[Boltman19]

OK, I take it back, but I still wouldnt mind him, he's an improvement over what we have

[sundeval]

If i was to pick any player in the NFL .....thats a tough question. It certainly wouldnt be Troy P. As the rest of the Steelers are, hes overhyped. Im not saying hes not something special, but he wouldnt make the chargers unstoppable or improve the team drastically as some of you may think. My choice would be for offense, Chad Johnson from the Bengals . If it were to be for defense, id take Julius Peppers....the guy is a freak.

[TJ21]

If i was to pick any player in the NFL .....thats a tough question. It certainly wouldnt be Troy P. As the rest of the Steelers are, hes overhyped. Im not saying hes not something special, but he wouldnt make the chargers unstoppable or improve the team drastically as some of you may think. My choice would be for offense, Chad Johnson from the Bengals . If it were to be for defense, id take Julius Peppers....the guy is a freak.
Finally someone who agrees that Troy is overrated! A :Beer: to you good sir!

And boltman19, we'll let bygones be bygones. :Beer:

[mattmc223]

If i was to pick any player in the NFL .....thats a tough question. It certainly wouldnt be Troy P. As the rest of the Steelers are, hes overhyped. Im not saying hes not something special, but he wouldnt make the chargers unstoppable or improve the team drastically as some of you may think. My choice would be for offense, Chad Johnson from the Bengals . If it were to be for defense, id take Julius Peppers....the guy is a freak.


I would take Chad Johnson anyday.

[ltinabottle]

I would say Troy for all reasons stated. With our situation, I would love to pick up Walter Jones. He is regarded as the top player at his position and is in the prime of his career. He has allowed only 2 sacks over the past two seasons which is amazing. For a quarterback to drop back, knowing that his blindside is covered is a comforting feeling. He can pass block vs the top rushers and open up holes for the running game. His skill and athletic ability would maxmize Brees and LT production and protect them during passing situations.

Go Bolts:Bolt:

[ChampCharger]

Peyton Manning said he'd never seen any defender cover as much ground as Polamalu does...

For a guy who reads defenses so well to say something like that...I would say that makes Troy the #1 guy in my book.

[dserrano86]

Antoine Randle is a free agent and would be a great signing for the Chargers. He would be a good number 1 or 2 wideout for the Chargers. He would also be a good motivation for the Chargers since he had already won the super bowl

[HeadTrip]

Antoine Randle is a free agent and would be a great signing for the Chargers. He would be a good number 1 or 2 wideout for the Chargers. He would also be a good motivation for the Chargers since he had already won the super bowl

But he certainly isn't the best player for the Chargers in the entire NFL which is what this is about. Personally, I don't even want him in SD. He won't start above Kmac or EP and he might not start over VJ. Even if he does beat VJ out he is hindering our future star's developement. No thanks.

[spysnipedis]

Polamalu



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[IgorUnchained]

Troy Polamalu....as if there was any other choice.

Champ Bailey is great....we could use that shutdown corner with the possibility of TO coming to Denver and Randy already in the AFC West. Bailey won more than a few games for Denver, and he would be my second choice.

Troy Polamalu doesnt make alot of INTs, but he is right there on coverage (I would love to hear his passes defensed and batted balls numbers if you have those!) AND on the run game.
The Steelers have a great 3-4 D and Troy is a HUGE reason why. He would add to the coverage aspect, the rushing aspect, and the run stuffing aspect while showing the world (again) how he has the skills and the heart to find the ball on almost every play.

Those who call him overrated either dont pay attention or are burned out by hearing his name on Sportscenter.....neither of which are my problem, Troy's problem, or the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION Steelers problem.

[Thunderstruck]

Troy Polamalu....as if there was any other choice.

Champ Bailey is great....we could use that shutdown corner with the possibility of TO coming to Denver and Randy already in the AFC West. Bailey won more than a few games for Denver, and he would be my second choice.

Troy Polamalu doesnt make alot of INTs, but he is right there on coverage (I would love to hear his passes defensed and batted balls numbers if you have those!) AND on the run game.
The Steelers have a great 3-4 D and Troy is a HUGE reason why. He would add to the coverage aspect, the rushing aspect, and the run stuffing aspect while showing the world (again) how he has the skills and the heart to find the ball on almost every play.

Those who call him overrated either dont pay attention or are burned out by hearing his name on Sportscenter.....neither of which are my problem, Troy's problem, or the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION Steelers problem.

Troy had 73 tackles, 2 interceptions, 3 sacks, and 6 passes defensed this season. He actually put up better numbers last year.

[meatbucket]

it's not really polamalu's job to make 8 INT's, it's his job to punish. i don't care about numbers, just watch a few steelers games, the guy is everywhere. it's really amazing. he gets so much momentum behind him when he makes a hit it hurts just to watch. how many receivers dropped passes because they took a peek to see if they were about to get leveled?

but i'd still take walter jones because he's the best player at the most important position on the field

[HeadTrip]

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302218

Ed Reed is clearly the better player. I'll trade 10 more tackles for 6 more INTs anyday.

[nineandseven]

I'd take Troy in a heartbeat. He was probably the biggest playmaker during the playoffs, and he's only played 2 seasons so we'd have him for a long time to come.

[ChampCharger]

I think if you factor in what type of defense we are, Polamalu fits perfectly. Ed Reed works well in 3-4 Defenses also. Reed is great in Coverage, he would be great for us as well.

But he doesn't do all the things Polamalu does...its tough but go with Polamalu he would just fit best.

[KingGL]

Say whatever you want about my choice , but I'll take Urlacher.I magine that linebacker core . Coming in tied for second is Steve Smith and Brain Dawkins...... ;)

[Ikeman83]

For me it's Walter Jones or Hines Ward. Hines Ward is the best overall WR in football, because he actually blocks. Walter Jones is an obvious pick. I didn't pick a Safety because your safety isn't ever the most important player on the field.

If Polamalu was responsible for cutting down your points allowed by 7 per game, and adding Walter or Hines was going to add ten, I think we'd be picking Jones or Ward.

[loweezy]

For me it's Walter Jones or Hines Ward. Hines Ward is the best overall WR in football, because he actually blocks. Walter Jones is an obvious pick. I didn't pick a Safety because your safety isn't ever the most important player on the field.

If Polamalu was responsible for cutting down your points allowed by 7 per game, and adding Walter or Hines was going to add ten, I think we'd be picking Jones or Ward.

walter jones is a good pick up... but hines ward?

hines ward is NOT the best overall WR in football. He is a WR that buys into the team concept, and does a good job blocking. But, just because the steelers are a good running team, doesn't make him the best blocking wr in the game. I don't see that there is really any way to judge who is the best blocking WR in the game. As far as the rest of ward's abilities, there are at least 10 wr's i'd take before him.

chad johnson, steve smith, randy moss, terrell owens (if based on ability alone), marvin harrison, larry fitzgerald, anqual boldin, torry holt, javon walker, andre johnson, joe horn, joey galloway, darrel jackson, plaxico burress...

[loweezy]

oh... and as far as who i'd take on this team... i'd probably go with

polamalu, if i was trying to fill a need... he is arguably the best defensive player in the league...

if i was going on pure ability/talent/intelligence...

i'd have to pick up tom brady... he would definitely be an upgrade... brees is nice... but brady is brady.

[TJ21]

Those who call him overrated either dont pay attention or are burned out by hearing his name on Sportscenter.....neither of which are my problem, Troy's problem, or the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION Steelers problem.
Igor, I know the guy is great and all, but he's not as great as the media would have you believe. John Lynch is a better safety, imo. He knows how to rush the passer, how to find the ball and he can get anywhere he wants on the field too. Lynch was part of an under-the-radar team this year, the Bronkeys, where as Polamalue was right smack-dab in the middle of an over-hyped team that everyone seemed to salivate over.

It's my opinion, that everyone's just getting the superbowl champ munchies (I've copyrighted that term... ;) ). Your seeing the last big name team mentioned above all other teams.

Polamalu appears to be a stand out guy, he's religious, he's devoted, he's got the whole hair thing going on... but really, I HAVE seen him burned on plays. He bit on the fake route in the SB, Antonio burned him in terms of pure speed, when we played em. He doesn't really break tackles all that well. And didn't he cost Pittsburgh a game? Vs. the Patriots? He picked off Brady but fumbled the ball in an attempt to pitch, and the pats recovered to win.

Champ Bailey, John Lynch, Brian Urlacher, Walter Jones, Steven Hutchinson and even Marvin Harrison (yeah, I said it. he's the most humble #1 quality WR in the league) are better choices then Polamalu.

HE IS OVER RATED. Thunderstruck said it, his numbers were better last year. When a player gets more attention then they're worth, people pay most of their attention to the attention and give little worth to the worth. :Beer:

[loweezy]

john lynch? are you kidding?

sorry... but if we had a pool of players. john lynch doesn't make my first round.

[Dojo]

Champ Bailey no question. :Beer:

Polamalu's great, but you'd be crazy if you didn't think he gets too much attention. The media circus around his devotion to the game and his appearance has taken away from the fact that he only had 2 picks (3 if you count the INDY pick) and 3 sacks. That's not much by my standards. Jammer had 4 in his second season. Jue had more picks then Polamalu this season, and he was hurt a lot. I get annoyed when people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread simply because the media chose to fixate themselves on him.

Champ Bailey, on the other hand, HAD EIGHT INTERCEPTIONS, and returned two for touchdowns. By my standards that's production, plain and simple. Troy Polamalu would be lucky to produce half that in any given season in his career. I'd kill to have Champ. :Beer:
Champ looks in the backfield much too often. Yeah, he's gunna get a pick once every 2 games but he get 8-9 balls caught on him EVERY game when he's locked up on a receiver. It shows how much the Broncos trust him when they chose to man him up on Parker instead of Gates or McCardell the last game of the season, and Parker got 8 (?) catches. Remember all, the Steelers had Troy cover Gates on the 2 pt. conversion that would have decided the game. Steelers trust Troy. Last year they tried the whole Bailey on Gates thing and it failed misserably. he is BY FAR the most overrated player in the leauge!
My best friend is a Bronco fan and he watches every game. He doesn't understand why the Broncos have Champ play every teams #2 receiver. It's simple, he wants to kick the dog not the bear.
PROOF: Week 2. Baily picks off Brees and returns it to the house against the Chargers. A simple pump fake and the receiver had an easy td. This is what happens to the Broncos. Champ does this all the time! He jumps routes and most of the time he misses and the opposing team gets a big play. But it's his interceptions that allow him to make the probowl. way-ta-go voters. sheesh

[bolts22]

Seahawks seemed to be completing a lot of passes. Whens the last time a reciever beat Champ? .


2nd quarter of AFC championship. 12 yard pass from Rothlisberger to Cedrick Wilson. "Chump" Bailey was caught looking in the backfield and Big Ben made him look silly... you asked ).

Also, don't forget the INT he should've had on one of the very first plays of that game. Remember the ball that shot straight up and Hines Ward was able to make a play on it? Chump should've returned that one all the way, would've been a completely different game.

Bad thing about having a star CB, you can be taken out of the game. Deion Sanders would've had "out of this world" numbers if QBs actually threw at the recievers he was covering.

My pick would be Ed Reed or Troy P, but playing in the california sun all the time Troy would need a haircut... and we all know what that did for Samson.

[Dojo]

i would have to go with Torry Holt. I would've said Marvin a couple years ago but he's ageing so I'de go with Holt. He's a great leader and a pro bowler every year.

[TJ21]

you asked ).
And you told. I appreciate it. :Beer:

[bigmack2141]

hwoa bout troy palamalu AND ed reed? maybe like a mix between them?

Troy Redd? speed and hitting ability of troy and the pass defending/playmaking ability of edd reed.. with troys hair of course

[Chargerville]

Walter Jones. That's the Bolt's biggest weakness. As far as Polamalu goes, I think he's the best defensive player in the league because he makes plays in both the passing and running game. But since the Chargers already have a defensive playmaker and a tough run defense, I've gotta go with Bailey because a shut-down cover corner fits better into the Bolts' defensive scheme. And I think that Hines Ward is the best reciever in the NFL because he is the most complete, but he doesn't go well with the Chargers scheme. The Bolts have recievers who block well and have good hands, but the Chargers need a gamebreaker like Steve Smith if they even need a reciever at all.

[ChampCharger]

How could we not love the Steve Smith pick?

[Dojo]

How could we not love the Steve Smith pick?
i was going to say that but i just thought that holt was more consistant.

[boltskickass21]

Holt is too old, Smith is just entering his prime. I would take Smith over Holt

[Efocus22Z]

But he(Antoine Randle el) certainly isn't the best player for the Chargers in the entire NFL which is what this is about. Personally, I don't even want him in SD. He won't start above Kmac or EP and he might not start over VJ. Even if he does beat VJ out he is hindering our future star's developement. No thanks.
nice comment. i always like to read about fans that have faith in V Jacks. I also think V Jacks could be an outstanding reciever for us. I wouldn't pick an offensive player as my ideal free agent because we have great players and great potential. I wouldn't choose Polamalu as my ideal free agent, he is good, but i don't like overrated players. I'll take Ray Lewis, we have great line backers but with someone as passionate as him leading our Defense, the Defensive players will be extremely motivated to play and understand how great they are.

[SuperBowlBolts]

nice comment. i always like to read about fans that have faith in V Jacks. I also think V Jacks could be an outstanding reciever for us. I wouldn't pick an offensive player as my ideal free agent because we have great players and great potential. I wouldn't choose Polamalu as my ideal free agent, he is good, but i don't like overrated players. I'll take Ray Lewis, we have great line backers but with someone as passionate as him leading our Defense, the Defensive players will be extremely motivated to play and understand how great they are.
Ray Lewis is ancient by the way.

[TJ21]

hwoa bout troy palamalu AND ed reed? maybe like a mix between them?

Troy Redd? speed and hitting ability of troy and the pass defending/playmaking ability of edd reed.. with troys hair of course
If we're going to be mixing players I want someone with Jonathen Ogdens's size (6'9) and Tim Dwight's speed to play offensive line.

Like Tim Dwogden. :Beer:

[KYChargersFan21]

Well I like alot of you ours choices. Well for my first pick i would take Chad Johnson, Vincent would make a good protege to him. Then i would take walter jones just a phenomenal o linemen. The i would take ed reed a guy with hard hits and has a smell for any ball thrown in his direction.

[Joiner18]

Champ Bailey no question. :Beer:

Polamalu's great, but you'd be crazy if you didn't think he gets too much attention. The media circus around his devotion to the game and his appearance has taken away from the fact that he only had 2 picks (3 if you count the INDY pick) and 3 sacks. That's not much by my standards. Jammer had 4 in his second season. Jue had more picks then Polamalu this season, and he was hurt a lot. I get annoyed when people think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread simply because the media chose to fixate themselves on him.

Champ Bailey, on the other hand, HAD EIGHT INTERCEPTIONS, and returned two for touchdowns. By my standards that's production, plain and simple. Troy Polamalu would be lucky to produce half that in any given season in his career. I'd kill to have Champ. :Beer:

Bailey is a great DB but you're wrong about Polamalu. I watch all of the Steeler games. He's EVERYWHERE on that field. Defintely lightning in a bottle. They use him almost like a 5th linebacker. He reminds me very much of (a lighter) Junior Seau. I'm not being sacrilegious, just honest :)

[Joiner18]

Troy Polamalu....as if there was any other choice.

Champ Bailey is great....we could use that shutdown corner with the possibility of TO coming to Denver and Randy already in the AFC West. Bailey won more than a few games for Denver, and he would be my second choice.

Troy Polamalu doesnt make alot of INTs, but he is right there on coverage (I would love to hear his passes defensed and batted balls numbers if you have those!) AND on the run game.
The Steelers have a great 3-4 D and Troy is a HUGE reason why. He would add to the coverage aspect, the rushing aspect, and the run stuffing aspect while showing the world (again) how he has the skills and the heart to find the ball on almost every play.

Those who call him overrated either dont pay attention or are burned out by hearing his name on Sportscenter.....neither of which are my problem, Troy's problem, or the SUPER BOWL CHAMPION Steelers problem.

Absolutely!
And if anyone says that he actually "SUCKED!" during the SuperBowl you might not know football that well. Seattle gameplanned away from him, while Pittsburgh gameplanned him to fill passing lanes. Dick LeBeau positioned him well to counter the Seahawks preperation for the blitz. STATS are sexy, but playing the positioning game is important too.

He played well. If not being a monster means he "sucked" to you then you don't know shine-ola from that other stuff.

[Joiner18]

Peppers is a good pick! So is Polamalu. What about Alan Faneca? Blocking for LT? If he could help Willie Parker then he could be amazing for Tomlinson.

[Joiner18]

Walter Jones. That's the Bolt's biggest weakness. As far as Polamalu goes, I think he's the best defensive player in the league because he makes plays in both the passing and running game. But since the Chargers already have a defensive playmaker and a tough run defense, I've gotta go with Bailey because a shut-down cover corner fits better into the Bolts' defensive scheme. And I think that Hines Ward is the best reciever in the NFL because he is the most complete, but he doesn't go well with the Chargers scheme. The Bolts have recievers who block well and have good hands, but the Chargers need a gamebreaker like Steve Smith if they even need a reciever at all.

I agree there! I LOVE Hinds Ward. But in terms of what the 'Bolts need more, it's a playmaking WR like Smith. I'll tell you what though... Ward makes plays! No doubting he's an upper-level WR (top ten in the league, in my opinion).

[Joiner18]

nice comment. i always like to read about fans that have faith in V Jacks. I also think V Jacks could be an outstanding reciever for us. I wouldn't pick an offensive player as my ideal free agent because we have great players and great potential. I wouldn't choose Polamalu as my ideal free agent, he is good, but i don't like overrated players. I'll take Ray Lewis, we have great line backers but with someone as passionate as him leading our Defense, the Defensive players will be extremely motivated to play and understand how great they are.

Ray Lewis is a good pick. So is Tom Brady (I forget who picked him). Both are probably on their way to Canton.

[Joiner18]

Well I like alot of you ours choices. Well for my first pick i would take Chad Johnson, Vincent would make a good protege to him. Then i would take walter jones just a phenomenal o linemen. The i would take ed reed a guy with hard hits and has a smell for any ball thrown in his direction.

I'm one of the few people who just doesn't like Chad Johnson. He's the Poor-Man's T.O.
Chad talks...ALOT. And is VERY prima-donna-ish. He gets alot of attention because he's over the top with his locker room interviews and touchdown celebrations... and though he IS an excellent wide out, I don't have him high on my list. There would be about 7 WRs I'd love to have ahead of him (Smith, Fitzgerald, etc...)

I don't know, I guess I'm just turned off by his blabber-mouth antics. Plus I'm a Steelers fan and Bengals lose fan-points outright ;)

[TJ21]

Bailey is a great DB but you're wrong about Polamalu. I watch all of the Steeler games. He's EVERYWHERE on that field. Defintely lightning in a bottle. They use him almost like a 5th linebacker. He reminds me very much of (a lighter) Junior Seau. I'm not being sacrilegious, just honest :)
Hey man, your new. But I've been reading a lot of your posts and I gotta ask... are you a Steelers fan in disguise?

Polamalwho = Seau? No... I don't think so.

[SuperBowlBolts]

Hey man, your new. But I've been reading a lot of your posts and I gotta ask... are you a Steelers fan in disguise?

Polamalwho = Seau? No... I don't think so.
Is there a ban button for down talking Seau? Lol

[Joiner18]

Hey man, your new. But I've been reading a lot of your posts and I gotta ask... are you a Steelers fan in disguise?

Polamalwho = Seau? No... I don't think so.

Haha! I'm not in disguise, I AM a Steelers fan. I'm a bigger Chargers fan. I live in Pittsburgh (born and raised) and my first taste of football was the close of the Steel Curtain Dynasty... which overlapped the Air Coryell era. I had family who lived in SD and we'd visit.

I was 9 years old and I was either Lynn Swann or John Jefferson when playing in the backyard.

When the two teams play each other I typically hope for a good game, with no injuries, period. This season I pulled for the Chargers because I felt like they needed that win more. It turns out that both teams needed it to make the playoffs.

The nice thing about loving two teams is you have two chances of being emotionally invested... but it's also tough when they play each other. Like in the '94 AFC Championship game!

In any case, I never tell people that Polamalu "=" Seau... only that his high energy, everywhere-on-the-field presence reminds me of him.

[SuperBowlBolts]

In any case, I never tell people that Polamalu "=" Seau... only that his high energy, everywhere-on-the-field presence reminds me of him.
Well thats good, because there is only one Seau.

[Joiner18]

Well thats good, because there is only one Seau.

You're telling that to a man who has a Junior Seau shrine and wears his #55 jersey to work even in the off season... ;)

[TJ21]

In one half of the pro-bowl, I haven't hear anything from Troy
So far Champ Bailey (who I mentioned I would take over Troy) and John Lynch (who I would also take over Troy) each have an INT. Lynch is playing the same position as Troy and is on the same team. Darren Sharper, Roy Williams and Nathan Vasher also ALL have at least 1 INT. In only one half.
The only TD the Seahawks scored in the superbowl was over Troy, he's not doing anything here, and the fact that he's all over the field is irrelevenant if he's not doing anything. Grass is also all over the field.

Did I say he was overrated? I'm sorry, I meant he was extremely overrated. Unless he does something before the game is over, all doubt that some of your arguments put in my mind as to whether or not he is an elite safety is over. Jue had more picks this season, he's not making any noise here, he got burned in the big-game. His hair and his humble devoted attitude are what make the media gravitate toward him. Don't believe everything you see on T.V.

I don't have anything against the guy. I'd take him in a flash if he was an FA. But I was shocked that some of you thought he was better then guys like Lynch or Bailey. He's great, but he absolutely does not deserve the over-attention he recieves. Polamalwho is not by ANY MEANS the best safety in the league.

P.S. Good game so far, but Gates needs to start bringing those babys down. :Beer: http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4725/sdgdonnieedwards7wb.jpg

[BoltsfanNYC]

he was 1/3

[ptr77]

Walter Jones, or Jeremy Shockey. If you got jones, leave him one on one all the time and have you're te on the otherside helping the rt. He is a monster. I said shockey because i've never heard of teams having 2 TE's that can take over games, or a team that worked out of a 2 te set most of the time and utilized both. Teams can have 2 receivers getting paid like #1's and both playing like #1's but 2 te's this athletic would allow the bolts to play smashmouth football by having 2 te's on the field all the time. 2 te's that can't be covered by lb's or ss and hard for cb and fs's to cover without help over the top. It wouldn't allow teams to go into goalline or packages good against the run because both would be threats to release off a block and take it to the house. Just idle fancy really, but i think that offense would be hard to defend, as long as you have a burner outside at wr, and an insanely good rb like tomlinson.

[ptr77]

walter jones is a good pick up... but hines ward?

hines ward is NOT the best overall WR in football. He is a WR that buys into the team concept, and does a good job blocking. But, just because the steelers are a good running team, doesn't make him the best blocking wr in the game. I don't see that there is really any way to judge who is the best blocking WR in the game. As far as the rest of ward's abilities, there are at least 10 wr's i'd take before him.

chad johnson, steve smith, randy moss, terrell owens (if based on ability alone), marvin harrison, larry fitzgerald, anqual boldin, torry holt, javon walker, andre johnson, joe horn, joey galloway, darrel jackson, plaxico burress...

Ward will knock the living F*ck out of anyone that tries to get past him when he blocks, the man is strong, smart, and uses good technique. They call him the best blocking wr because he's been around for a long time, blocking downfield on a team that runs over 55% and puts running above passing. He also has some of the best hands in the league. Taking plax, jackson, or galloway over him is madness. As far as blocking, catching, running routes, speed, jumping, i'd say ward is top 10 because the only knock on him is he isn't a deep threat but he does get his YAC and has great hands.

[Joiner18]

Ward will knock the living F*ck out of anyone that tries to get past him when he blocks, the man is strong, smart, and uses good technique. They call him the best blocking wr because he's been around for a long time, blocking downfield on a team that runs over 55% and puts running above passing. He also has some of the best hands in the league. Taking plax, jackson, or galloway over him is madness. As far as blocking, catching, running routes, speed, jumping, i'd say ward is top 10 because the only knock on him is he isn't a deep threat but he does get his YAC and has great hands.

Ward and Plax were teammates last season and I can tell you from watching the games that Ward is much much better. Plax has his strengths but as a Steeler he battled the drop-seys to a very frustrating degree, plus he's prone to pouting when things don't go his way. He looked like he gave up during the Giants' playoff loss this year... which is about right for him.

[Joiner18]

In one half of the pro-bowl, I haven't hear anything from Troy
So far Champ Bailey (who I mentioned I would take over Troy) and John Lynch (who I would also take over Troy) each have an INT. Lynch is playing the same position as Troy and is on the same team. Darren Sharper, Roy Williams and Nathan Vasher also ALL have at least 1 INT. In only one half.
The only TD the Seahawks scored in the superbowl was over Troy, he's not doing anything here, and the fact that he's all over the field is irrelevenant if he's not doing anything. Grass is also all over the field.

Did I say he was overrated? I'm sorry, I meant he was extremely overrated. Unless he does something before the game is over, all doubt that some of your arguments put in my mind as to whether or not he is an elite safety is over. Jue had more picks this season, he's not making any noise here, he got burned in the big-game. His hair and his humble devoted attitude are what make the media gravitate toward him. Don't believe everything you see on T.V.

I don't have anything against the guy. I'd take him in a flash if he was an FA. But I was shocked that some of you thought he was better then guys like Lynch or Bailey. He's great, but he absolutely does not deserve the over-attention he recieves. Polamalwho is not by ANY MEANS the best safety in the league.

P.S. Good game so far, but Gates needs to start bringing those babys down. :Beer: http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4725/sdgdonnieedwards7wb.jpg

LOL!
"He's EXTREMELY overrated!!!" but...
"I'd take him in a flash if he was a free agent"

You're boat's leaking kiddo.....

P.S. RE: your extra large & bold quote: "In one half of the pro-bowl, I haven't hear anything from Troy"

You're a drama queen LOL

[TJ21]

LOL!
"He's EXTREMELY overrated!!!" but...
"I'd take him in a flash if he was a free agent"

You're boat's leaking kiddo.....

P.S. RE: your extra large & bold quote: "In one half of the pro-bowl, I haven't hear anything from Troy"

You're a drama queen LOL
First of all. Clearly my statement was not about whether or not I'd want Troy on our team, but whether or not he's overrated. He is overrated, clearly. But I'd be an idiot not to want him if he was available. If I had to choose between him and Champ Bailey or John Lynch, I'd rather have the latter two respectively. Don't take my quote out of context.
Second of all. I have no response to "You're boat's leaking kiddo....." you, er, you really got me with that one pal.
Lastly, I don't know what your doing here. Clearly your a Steelers homer. You jump on to our board after they win the superbowl, slap a Bolts avatar on and start singing Pittsburgh's praises. Last I checked, true football fans pick a team and stick with them. It's about loyalty, not bandwaggoning the winners. So which is it kiddo? Steelers or Chargers? You've been here five minutes, but I'm sick of reading your posts already. My post was fine, good and relevant debate material. But do you dare actually respond to it with facts or an argument of your own? No. You resort to name-calling. I won't sink to your level, as hard as it is.

P.S. Don't compare Seau to anyone not in the HOF. Thanks. :55:

[Joiner18]

First of all. Clearly my statement was not about whether or not I'd want Troy on our team, but whether or not he's overrated. He is overrated, clearly. But I'd be an idiot not to want him if he was available. If I had to choose between him and Champ Bailey or John Lynch, I'd rather have the latter two respectively. Don't take my quote out of context.
Second of all. I have no response to "You're boat's leaking kiddo....." you, er, you really got me with that one pal.
Lastly, I don't know what your doing here. Clearly your a Steelers homer. You jump on to our board after they win the superbowl, slap a Bolts avatar on and start singing Pittsburgh's praises. Last I checked, true football fans pick a team and stick with them. It's about loyalty, not bandwaggoning the winners. So which is it kiddo? Steelers or Chargers? You've been here five minutes, but I'm sick of reading your posts already. My post was fine, good and relevant debate material. But do you dare actually respond to it with facts or an argument of your own? No. You resort to name-calling. I won't sink to your level, as hard as it is.

P.S. Don't compare Seau to anyone not in the HOF. Thanks. :55:

Don't post angry:)
I don't have to pick, and I can enjoy both teams. If I don't meet your qualifications for being a football fan then I'll just have to find a way to live with myself. ;)

You shouldn't read my posts if they make you angry.
In any case I post here (since last August) because I'm excited about football. Plus I enjoy talking about the Chargers and giving my opinions. I don't post on the Steelers site, but when I start posting there I'll definetly stick up for the 'Bolts and their players, ESPECIALLY if someone says goofball things like LT or Gates or [insert player here] is overrated.

My bottom line is, if someone says that Polamalu is [EXTREMELY!] overrated then they don't know the facts.

For example: You use stats as your evidence, and that Steven's touchdown was when Troy P was responsible for him. Oh yes, and that during the Pro Bowl he didn't play to your satisfaction (the Pro Bowl is a scrimmage, by the way ;-) and the best running back in the league, LT, isn't to be criticized for not standing out, etc...it is what it is).

I used facts to express my opinion that you're mistaken.
1) RE: the Super Bowl, Seattle gameplanned away from him, and Dick Lebeau countered the gameplan by having him fill passing lanes rather than blitz (Joey Porter, too). I thought it was the right gameplan, by the way. Seattle would've picked up the blitz and won the game I believe.
2) The Stevens touchdown was a well executed play. Ronnie Lott didn't always get over in time.
3) Polamalu was a monster in the playoffs. In fact, it was awesome to watch... you may have missed it, or was distracted by sour grapes or something (for some reason??)
4) Having watched him during the regular season, including last season, he has definetely grown into a dominant safety. You don't have the same perspective I do because you've rarely seen him play. I see him every week.

So there it is. I don't care if you agree with or like me. You said: "Lastly, I don't know what your doing here. Clearly your a Steelers homer".

My advice: Don't read my posts...

[boltskickass21]

One thing I have to say about the whole Polamalu-Bailey choice, look at the age and experience. Polamalu is great now and will only get better as he learns more about playing in the NFL. Bailey is older and that is why he performed better at the Pro Bowl, he had been there before and was comfortable with the enviornment. If i am not mistaken this was Troy's first or second pro bowl. It was Gates' and he didnt perform as well as he could have, but are you all saying Gonzales is the better TE now? Nope. So why is it fair to point to the pro bowl as proof of Bailey's supperiority? I will take Troy in a heartbeat-Champ too- but Troy first because of all the potential to become one of the best EVER.

[SDFaiderHater]

if i could have anyone in the league, and this is purely sports no off the field issues, it would be T.O...dude actually has a really good work ethic and is hands down the best reciever in the league...the off the field crap is what kills him, but if we are talking purely football, then its gotta be T.O.

If we are taking off the field crap into consideration, then it would probably be Walter Jones or Steve Hutchinson.

[TJ21]

if i could have anyone in the league, and this is purely sports no off the field issues, it would be T.O...dude actually has a really good work ethic and is hands down the best reciever in the league...the off the field crap is what kills him, but if we are talking purely football, then its gotta be T.O.

If we are taking off the field crap into consideration, then it would probably be Walter Jones or Steve Hutchinson.
T.O. with no on the field problems would be the next Jerry Rice, no question. But its not going to happen. We can dream though, can't we. :Beer:

[TJ21]

I used facts to express my opinion that you're mistaken.
1) RE: the Super Bowl, Seattle gameplanned away from him, and Dick Lebeau countered the gameplan by having him fill passing lanes rather than blitz (Joey Porter, too). I thought it was the right gameplan, by the way. Seattle would've picked up the blitz and won the game I believe.
2) The Stevens touchdown was a well executed play. Ronnie Lott didn't always get over in time.
3) Polamalu was a monster in the playoffs. In fact, it was awesome to watch... you may have missed it, or was distracted by sour grapes or something (for some reason??)
4) Having watched him during the regular season, including last season, he has definetely grown into a dominant safety. You don't have the same perspective I do because you've rarely seen him play. I see him every week.

So there it is. I don't care if you agree with or like me. You said: "Lastly, I don't know what your doing here. Clearly your a Steelers homer".

My advice: Don't read my posts...

How many regular season picks did Polamalu have? Two. How many sacks? Three. Bhawoh Jue, our FS, had three picks in the regular season, and he was injured most of the time. And his three sacks came in one game. Against Houston. Okay, but maybe his stats don't tell the whole story right? Maybe they game-plan away from him? So he can't put up good numbers? Okay. Our touchdown to Gates, in the red-zone, nearly won us that game. Who was covering Gates? Polamalu. In their loss to Jacksonville, Polamalu couldn't catch up to Greg Jones, a fullback, to prevent the game-winning touchdown. Polamalu's stats are worse then his stats last year, they're worse then our own FS, he's been burned on several occasions including the superbowl, and looked like he was lost at the pro-bowl. He is their (Pittsburgh) poster child because of his hair and his determined attitude. Everyone says he's an ELITE FS, but I don't see elite play, I don't see elite intangibles. I see a good player, who is getting way too much attention. Kiddo

[Joiner18]

How many regular season picks did Polamalu have? Two. How many sacks? Three. Bhawoh Jue, our FS, had three picks in the regular season, and he was injured most of the time. And his three sacks came in one game. Against Houston. Okay, but maybe his stats don't tell the whole story right? Maybe they game-plan away from him? So he can't put up good numbers? Okay. Our touchdown to Gates, in the red-zone, nearly won us that game. Who was covering Gates? Polamalu. In their loss to Jacksonville, Polamalu couldn't catch up to Greg Jones, a fullback, to prevent the game-winning touchdown. Polamalu's stats are worse then his stats last year, they're worse then our own FS, he's been burned on several occasions including the superbowl, and looked like he was lost at the pro-bowl. He is their (Pittsburgh) poster child because of his hair and his determined attitude. Everyone says he's an ELITE FS, but I don't see elite play, I don't see elite intangibles. I see a good player, who is getting way too much attention. Kiddo

Yikes! Redundant argument brought to you by the office of redundancy department....

You're still not right.

Actually, Tommy Maddox threw an interception that was returned for the game winning touchdown against Jacksonville. :rolleyes: (nevertheless, thank whoever's feeding you stat help there)

You cite a handful of plays (like the elite Champ Bailey doesn't have a reel of plays where he was beaten LOL) and shout in extra big, extra bold letters that he was quiet during the Pro Bowl, and say "It's his HAIR..."
Don't take this personally, but I wouldn't give you a nickle as a scout or a statistician. :)

I could put together a reel of Dan Marino and suggest that he was "overrated" using your system of spin LOL

You didn't watch the Cincinnati playoff game? How about against Indy? How about against Denver? When the gameplan was less conservative and he was turned loose. You weren't impressed by his play?? Good grief kid, had it been a Chargers player you'd tremble in excitement over him.

I watched him every game this year, Stat Wiz. He's not overrated. Did you? Did you watch even a THIRD of his games? Nah. But you can read stats... or so you say... and you pound the gavel and say "case closed".

Knock it off, okay? You don't have a strong argument. Troy Polamalu is not overrated, and he is defintely a top knotch safety. (One you'd "take in a heartbeat" :rolleyes: )

Swallow your pride and say that you were wrong. :)

[TJ21]

Knock it off, okay? You don't have a strong argument. Troy Polamalu is not overrated, and he is defintely a top knotch safety. (One you'd "take in a heartbeat" :rolleyes: )

Swallow your pride and say that you were wrong. :)
I'll say "I'm wrong" when I actually am. :) I'd ask you to say you to "swallow your pride" and say your wrong, but judging from your equal oppurtunity loyalty to two different teams, I'd venture to guess that you have no sense of what pride is.

Stop analyzing my statements and LOOK AT THE COLD HARD STATS.

Polamalu's stats are worse then last years. We had a safety who had better stats. He was the only weak link in Pittsburgh's superbowl defense. And in fear of you making a stupid pun, I'll say it again: HIS STATS (INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS) ARE WORSE THEN LAST YEARS. 18 out of 19 games without a sack. Only two picks. And less tackles then 2004.

I mean, for sanity's sake, how can you look at the stats, then look at the attention he gets, and still tell me he's not overrated, kiddo?

[YetAnotherSDFan]

I would take
1.- Dante Hall
2.- Vilma
3.- Urlacher
4.- Troy
5.- Randy Moss

[maxiee]

I'll say "I'm wrong" when I actually am. :) I'd ask you to say you to "swallow your pride" and say your wrong, but judging from your equal oppurtunity loyalty to two different teams, I'd venture to guess that you have no sense of what pride is.

Stop analyzing my statements and LOOK AT THE COLD HARD STATS.

Polamalu's stats are worse then last years. We had a safety who had better stats. He was the only weak link in Pittsburgh's superbowl defense. And in fear of you making a stupid pun, I'll say it again: HIS STATS (INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS) ARE WORSE THEN LAST YEARS. 18 out of 19 games without a sack. Only two picks. And less tackles then 2004.

I mean, for sanity's sake, how can you look at the stats, then look at the attention he gets, and still tell me he's not overrated, kiddo?

So u r saying that stats are what shows how good or bad somebody is?
John Lynch had 4 sacks and 2 ints this year. 2 of those sacks came aginst us in the final game. Is Lynch overrated. Or how about this. Last year, he 2 sacks and only 1 pick, but people were saying that he is a top safety in this league. In the last 5 years, excluding this one the most picks Cham Bailey had in one year was 3. Does this mean that he too is overrated?

[el619]

mickael vick

[SuperBowlBolts]

I'll say "I'm wrong" when I actually am. :) I'd ask you to say you to "swallow your pride" and say your wrong, but judging from your equal oppurtunity loyalty to two different teams, I'd venture to guess that you have no sense of what pride is.

Stop analyzing my statements and LOOK AT THE COLD HARD STATS.

Polamalu's stats are worse then last years. We had a safety who had better stats. He was the only weak link in Pittsburgh's superbowl defense. And in fear of you making a stupid pun, I'll say it again: HIS STATS (INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS) ARE WORSE THEN LAST YEARS. 18 out of 19 games without a sack. Only two picks. And less tackles then 2004.

I mean, for sanity's sake, how can you look at the stats, then look at the attention he gets, and still tell me he's not overrated, kiddo?
Um, Stats dont tell the whole story? You want an example? Look at LT's stats.

[Joiner18]

I'll say "I'm wrong" when I actually am. :) I'd ask you to say you to "swallow your pride" and say your wrong, but judging from your equal oppurtunity loyalty to two different teams, I'd venture to guess that you have no sense of what pride is.

Stop analyzing my statements and LOOK AT THE COLD HARD STATS.

Polamalu's stats are worse then last years. We had a safety who had better stats. He was the only weak link in Pittsburgh's superbowl defense. And in fear of you making a stupid pun, I'll say it again: HIS STATS (INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS) ARE WORSE THEN LAST YEARS. 18 out of 19 games without a sack. Only two picks. And less tackles then 2004.

I mean, for sanity's sake, how can you look at the stats, then look at the attention he gets, and still tell me he's not overrated, kiddo?

Take this as constructive criticism: You're a goofball :D

I have no sense of pride because, as a born and raised Pittsburgher (Steel Curtain Dynasty era included) I love the Steelers yet developed a love for the 'Bolts (Air Coryell & beyond; my grandmother's fav team, etc)?

WOW! LOL

Incidentally, if my sense of pride and self worth was tied to football I'd want more in my life.

I'm not giving YOU the last word on Polamalu, because, among other things, I've actually watched all of his games. You just read a stat sheet. (by the way, you act like his stats went from top heap to bottom... when in actuality they are quite comparable, and certainly consistent).

If you don't like being refered to as kiddo then stop acting like a kid. Right? :)

I still like you as a person, so don't take any of this the wrong way.

[TJ21]

Take this as constructive criticism: You're a goofball :D

I have no sense of pride because, as a born and raised Pittsburgher (Steel Curtain Dynasty era included) I love the Steelers yet developed a love for the 'Bolts (Air Coryell & beyond; my grandmother's fav team, etc)?

WOW! LOL

Incidentally, if my sense of pride and self worth was tied to football I'd want more in my life.

I'm not giving YOU the last word on Polamalu, because, among other things, I've actually watched all of his games. You just read a stat sheet. (by the way, you act like his stats went from top heap to bottom... when in actuality they are quite comparable, and certainly consistent).

If you don't like being refered to as kiddo then stop acting like a kid. Right? :)

I still like you as a person, so don't take any of this the wrong way.
You don't know me as a person kiddo. So how can you like me as a person? I certainly don't like you as a person, or a member of this board. I'll treat you with respect though. And please, if you feel the desire to call anything anything beyond a (GASP!) goofball, go right ahead. Your clearly frustrated with my arguments, although you'll wholeheartedly deny that as desperate speculation on my part. Perhaps you'll sink to criticizing technical or spelling errors in my post, or maybe you'll continue to tell me to grow up. I don't know which. Fact of the matter is, your upset that I refuse (and you'll certainly deny this as well) to buy into your nonsensical rantings about Polamalu's "intangibles" about the things beyond the stats. I certainly don't live by stats, but I don't know how else to convince you that the man is overrated. You claim to have see every Pittsburgh game, yet you don't acknowledge the fact that they became a sub-par team after Big Ben got hurt. Listen kiddo Troy Polamalu is slobbered over by the media and easily impressionable people like yourself because of his off-the-field behaviors and standout personality. He's overrated and a second tier secondary player when compared to guys like Champ Bailey. I await your happily arrogant response kiddo, er I mean goofball... it's not name-calling because it's a cutesy word and you put a smiley face next to it...

[youngtorice]

Lets See Now A Free Agent For The Chargers Hmmm!

[boltskickass21]

I'll say "I'm wrong" when I actually am. :) I'd ask you to say you to "swallow your pride" and say your wrong, but judging from your equal oppurtunity loyalty to two different teams, I'd venture to guess that you have no sense of what pride is.

Stop analyzing my statements and LOOK AT THE COLD HARD STATS.

Polamalu's stats are worse then last years. We had a safety who had better stats. He was the only weak link in Pittsburgh's superbowl defense. And in fear of you making a stupid pun, I'll say it again: HIS STATS (INCLUDING THE PLAYOFFS) ARE WORSE THEN LAST YEARS. 18 out of 19 games without a sack. Only two picks. And less tackles then 2004.

I mean, for sanity's sake, how can you look at the stats, then look at the attention he gets, and still tell me he's not overrated, kiddo?
Throw the Stats out the window and just watch the kid play man. Watch how he plays the game with such intensity and watch how the other team has to rearrange an entire gameplan everytime he steps on the field. Stats really dont matter as much as you say they do. When a guy shows the athleticism to run 15 yards from pass coverage to take down a RB at the one and everyone knows he can do that every single time, that is what makes him a stud. He is not nearly as overrated by the league as underrated to you. I would take Troy in a heartbeat, and if it came down to it, you probably would too.

[Boltz2175]

Ed Reed would be my choice...or Steve Smith=Playmaker!!!:Bolt:

[BoltsfanNYC]

I would take Best Left tackle... and then move oben to right olivea to guard... Sign an upgrade at center or draft mangold .... again if our Oline is better we score more and keep our d off the field....

if I can only sign 1 FA It would be BEST tackle. THEN Guard. THEN center... then Safety... then ILB....

[promiseland]

I might catch alot of crap for this but I would take (A welll behaved) Terrell Owens, could you just imagien the explosiveness of our offense.
But that would most likely not happen, So I would take Larry fitzgerald, I mean the guy caught 103 passes for over 1400 yards.

[ChampCharger]

Lets See Now A Free Agent For The Chargers Hmmm!
Why are you here?

[ChampCharger]

You don't know me as a person kiddo. So how can you like me as a person? I certainly don't like you as a person, or a member of this board. I'll treat you with respect though. And please, if you feel the desire to call anything anything beyond a (GASP!) goofball, go right ahead. Your clearly frustrated with my arguments, although you'll wholeheartedly deny that as desperate speculation on my part. Perhaps you'll sink to criticizing technical or spelling errors in my post, or maybe you'll continue to tell me to grow up. I don't know which. Fact of the matter is, your upset that I refuse (and you'll certainly deny this as well) to buy into your nonsensical rantings about Polamalu's "intangibles" about the things beyond the stats. I certainly don't live by stats, but I don't know how else to convince you that the man is overrated. You claim to have see every Pittsburgh game, yet you don't acknowledge the fact that they became a sub-par team after Big Ben got hurt. Listen kiddo Troy Polamalu is slobbered over by the media and easily impressionable people like yourself because of his off-the-field behaviors and standout personality. He's overrated and a second tier secondary player when compared to guys like Champ Bailey. I await your happily arrogant response kiddo, er I mean goofball... it's not name-calling because it's a cutesy word and you put a smiley face next to it...

Can I say a couple things here?

#1 CALM DOWN DUDES

#2 If a Defensive Back puts fear into Peyton Manning's eyes and makes him say things like "I've never seen a defensive player cover so much ground," then that player is a top notch player. Period.

[Rip]

I wonder if people would be so obsessed with Troy P if he didnt so close to SD at USC

He isnt even the best SS in the NFL

I would take Ed Reed over him anyday

[Wales_Bolts_Mad]

a young ray lewis!!

[JoeMcRugby]

I wonder if people would be so obsessed with Troy P if he didnt so close to SD at USC

He isnt even the best SS in the NFL

I would take Ed Reed over him anyday
The national media is obsessed with Polamalu, Rip. I don't think that has anything to do with being close to Troy's college hometown.

And Reed is a strong safety in name only in Baltimore's defensive scheme. He's a pure FS who I could see matching up very nicely with Troy in a secondary.

Polamalu and Reed as your safeties - that's one scary thought!

[Chargeroo]

Champ Bailey would be nice to get or Rhonde Barber or Ed Reed or Troy P. but for our team, I'd take Seattle's Walter Jones. He's the best in the league at a position of need for us.

[IgorUnchained]

I wonder if people would be so obsessed with Troy P if he didnt so close to SD at USC

He isnt even the best SS in the NFL

I would take Ed Reed over him anyday

When this question was asked this time last year I said Ed Reed. This year I have seen the light and I think that not only is Polamalu the best SS....he is the best S period.
I dont follow college ball and I have nothing for or against USC (I do admire alot of their alumni)....my love of Polamalu has come from following him for the past 2 years and being blown away on a weekly basis by what the guy has done in such a short time. A healthy Rodney Harrison would be the best S in the league today....but Rodney aint healthy and Troy Polamalu is the total package. Both Rodney and Troy started out as talented guys able to make the hard hit and be around the ball on every play. Both of those guys also took a little time before they not only held their own in coverage, but consistantly broke up plays and made their presence felt.....the difference is that Troy has reached that point in half the time. Polamalu isnt a fluke and he has many years to prove it to all the nay sayers.
He would be such a valuable weapon in this 3-4!

[Joiner18]

You don't know me as a person kiddo. So how can you like me as a person? I certainly don't like you as a person, or a member of this board. I'll treat you with respect though. And please, if you feel the desire to call anything anything beyond a (GASP!) goofball, go right ahead. Your clearly frustrated with my arguments, although you'll wholeheartedly deny that as desperate speculation on my part. Perhaps you'll sink to criticizing technical or spelling errors in my post, or maybe you'll continue to tell me to grow up. I don't know which. Fact of the matter is, your upset that I refuse (and you'll certainly deny this as well) to buy into your nonsensical rantings about Polamalu's "intangibles" about the things beyond the stats. I certainly don't live by stats, but I don't know how else to convince you that the man is overrated. You claim to have see every Pittsburgh game, yet you don't acknowledge the fact that they became a sub-par team after Big Ben got hurt. Listen kiddo Troy Polamalu is slobbered over by the media and easily impressionable people like yourself because of his off-the-field behaviors and standout personality. He's overrated and a second tier secondary player when compared to guys like Champ Bailey. I await your happily arrogant response kiddo, er I mean goofball... it's not name-calling because it's a cutesy word and you put a smiley face next to it...

tahirjon.... sshhhhhhhh :)

[TJ21]

tahirjon.... sshhhhhhhh :)
Well: I concede. You've convinced me. Not only is Polamalu the best safety in the history of the NFL, but you are the most mature poster in the history of the internet. Obviously my argument was a little hard to rebutte, but my God did you ever respond! Wow!

I say your frustrated with my unwillingness to concede to your ridiculous misconceptions about Polamalu's talent and you prove me wrong by simply shushing me! Shushing me! On the internet! On a post written three days ago! I'll tell you what, I wasn't even saying out loud when I wrote it.

Or maybe you were trying to be witty. Maybe you were attempting to make yourself seem mature and humerous by "shushing" me. Well congradu-fricken-lations! You did it. You have proved yourself to be not only the smartest, most mature person in the world, but also the funniest.

"tahirjon: shhhhhhhh :)" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic.... classic.



:rolleyes:


You shush, you GOOFBALL at least I have something to say. You have 54 posts in this forum, all of which either are boasting Philip Rivers or the Pittsburgh Steelers. Get a grip man.

[SDFaiderHater]

When this question was asked this time last year I said Ed Reed. This year I have seen the light and I think that not only is Polamalu the best SS....he is the best S period.
I dont follow college ball and I have nothing for or against USC (I do admire alot of their alumni)....my love of Polamalu has come from following him for the past 2 years and being blown away on a weekly basis by what the guy has done in such a short time. A healthy Rodney Harrison would be the best S in the league today....but Rodney aint healthy and Troy Polamalu is the total package. Both Rodney and Troy started out as talented guys able to make the hard hit and be around the ball on every play. Both of those guys also took a little time before they not only held their own in coverage, but consistantly broke up plays and made their presence felt.....the difference is that Troy has reached that point in half the time. Polamalu isnt a fluke and he has many years to prove it to all the nay sayers.
He would be such a valuable weapon in this 3-4!

i love that line you have in your sig about Montana, and it is SOOO true. i spent pretty much every summer from the time i was 5 until i was 18 in Billings Montana, and about half that time in a small town about 40 or 50 miles out called Round Up. its too bad my dad lives there, or i might of moved there about 2 years ago, i love San Diego, but i hate most of the people here. NOT YOU GUYS though.

[SDFaiderHater]

Well: I concede. You've convinced me. Not only is Polamalu the best safety in the history of the NFL, but you are the most mature poster in the history of the internet. Obviously my argument was a little hard to rebutte, but my God did you ever respond! Wow!

I say your frustrated with my unwillingness to concede to your ridiculous misconceptions about Polamalu's talent and you prove me wrong by simply shushing me! Shushing me! On the internet! On a post written three days ago! I'll tell you what, I wasn't even saying out loud when I wrote it.

Or maybe you were trying to be witty. Maybe you were attempting to make yourself seem mature and humerous by "shushing" me. Well congradu-fricken-lations! You did it. You have proved yourself to be not only the smartest, most mature person in the world, but also the funniest.

"tahirjon: shhhhhhhh :)" HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Classic.... classic.



:rolleyes:


You shush, you GOOFBALL at least I have something to say. You have 54 posts in this forum, all of which either are boasting Philip Rivers or the Pittsburgh Steelers. Get a grip man.


al the guy did was lookup one of our greats, decide hmm, thats a nice screenname to make them think i actually watch the chargers, and then start posting his babble, there is no use fighting against someone who obviously is so enamored by the steelers that he thinks Troy Pa. is god.

[TJ21]

al the guy did was lookup one of our greats, decide hmm, thats a nice screenname to make them think i actually watch the chargers, and then start posting his babble, there is no use fighting against someone who obviously is so enamored by the steelers that he thinks Troy Pa. is god.
You da man SD. :Beer: I too have a hard time believing a "duel fan" is not simply a bandwagoner.

[IgorUnchained]

i love that line you have in your sig about Montana, and it is SOOO true. i spent pretty much every summer from the time i was 5 until i was 18 in Billings Montana, and about half that time in a small town about 40 or 50 miles out called Round Up. its too bad my dad lives there, or i might of moved there about 2 years ago, i love San Diego, but i hate most of the people here. NOT YOU GUYS though.


I couldnt agree more. I love San Diego and think life would be great being that close to the Chargers and the Beach. There is alot of beauty in Southern California, and I wouldnt ever deny that....but I have never been anywhere that is as beautiful and peaceful as my own backyard....and I am a "poor man" by financial standards. If you liked Eastern Montana, I would urge you to visit the west. I put up with 6 months of snow just so I can live here! :Beer:

sorry to jack this post with a tourism commercial.....feel free to continue the Troy Polamalu lovers/haters convention!

[laschwa]

troy or ed reed is an obvious choice, also think champ would be great, but i'll throw one out there that's obviously not my #1 but someone i'd just love to have even though it's near the end of his career:

zack thomas.

[Joiner18]

troy or ed reed is an obvious choice, also think champ would be great, but i'll throw one out there that's obviously not my #1 but someone i'd just love to have even though it's near the end of his career:

zack thomas.

Nice. I'd try to work out a package deal for him and Seau, so Junior could end his career here. :55:

[Joiner18]

When this question was asked this time last year I said Ed Reed. This year I have seen the light and I think that not only is Polamalu the best SS....he is the best S period.
I dont follow college ball and I have nothing for or against USC (I do admire alot of their alumni)....my love of Polamalu has come from following him for the past 2 years and being blown away on a weekly basis by what the guy has done in such a short time. A healthy Rodney Harrison would be the best S in the league today....but Rodney aint healthy and Troy Polamalu is the total package. Both Rodney and Troy started out as talented guys able to make the hard hit and be around the ball on every play. Both of those guys also took a little time before they not only held their own in coverage, but consistantly broke up plays and made their presence felt.....the difference is that Troy has reached that point in half the time. Polamalu isnt a fluke and he has many years to prove it to all the nay sayers.
He would be such a valuable weapon in this 3-4!

Absolutely. People who haven't watched many of his games (although the three playoff performances were particularly incredible) don't realize what he does to opposing offenses. Making a QB throw the ball wildly incomplete on third downs isn't a typical stat, nor is making a QB check off his primary receiver because of coverage, yielding a sack. Clogging a running lane, forcing the runner to cut back into a tackle is another play that can't be put into conventional stat terms.

The stats that are measured are solid, and have been consistent these past two season, but I can tell you that he had an even greater impact on defense THIS season despite finishing with 4 fewer tackles and 1 fewer turnover.

This season he was in on 91 tackles, 3 sacks, 4 turnovers, and scored 1 TD

Last season he was in on 96 tackles, 1 sack, 5 turnovers, and scored 1 TD

Plug in those stat-register plays, plus the plays that don't show up on conventional stat sheets into the Chargers defense. :)

Troy Polamalu is a top notch defensive threat in the NFL (elite even) and in only his third season. He is not God, or a god. The day someone compares him to the Almighty is when I'll agree with those who say he's overrated.

[Joiner18]

al the guy did was lookup one of our greats, decide hmm, thats a nice screenname to make them think i actually watch the chargers, and then start posting his babble, there is no use fighting against someone who obviously is so enamored by the steelers that he thinks Troy Pa. is god.

SDFaiderHater... sshhhhhhhh:)

At least you spelled god with a small "g" and didn't accuse me of blasphemy... you're a very sensible young man.

I watched Charlie Joiner play. He was one of the all time greats in league history. In 1984 Topps came out with a sticker yearbook with him on the cover (If you haven't seen it you should look for it on eBay or something). It is the perfect shot of Joiner. As a huge Air Coryell fan I was thrilled. I have it hanging on my wall.

You? :p

[Joiner18]

You da man SD. :Beer: I too have a hard time believing a "duel fan" is not simply a bandwagoner.

Well... you're young.

[TheIceCreamMan]

i was look at this highlight video(bout10 minutes long) on VINCE YOUNG

omg that dude is amazing matt leinaert who!?!? Vince YOUNG is the best player ive erv seen WOAH!!!!..

http://www.youtube.com/w/inVINCEable?v=GlYTlzR1j7k&search=VINCE%20YOUNG

[Podium]

i was look at this highlight video(bout10 minutes long) on VINCE YOUNG

omg that dude is amazing matt leinaert who!?!? Vince YOUNG is the best player ive erv seen WOAH!!!!..

http://www.youtube.com/w/inVINCEable?v=GlYTlzR1j7k&search=VINCE%20YOUNG


:rolleyes: Well there's a reason they call it a HIGHlight film. Vince Young is overrated IMO.

[TJ21]

SDFaiderHater... sshhhhhhhh:)

At least you spelled god with a small "g" and didn't accuse me of blasphemy... you're a very sensible young man.

I watched Charlie Joiner play. He was one of the all time greats in league history. In 1984 Topps came out with a sticker yearbook with him on the cover (If you haven't seen it you should look for it on eBay or something). It is the perfect shot of Joiner. As a huge Air Coryell fan I was thrilled. I have it hanging on my wall.

You?
Listen kiddo, I'm getting a little sick and tired of you telling people to "shhhhhhh :)" Okay it was kind of funny at first, I thought "Oh well another one of these guys :rolleyes: " but now it's transcended being annoying and become insulting. SDFaiderHater has been on this board a lot longer then you and clearly has engaged in more discussions. Your being disrespectful and naive. I still don't believe your a Chargers fan, I think your just surfing the web looking for stuff you can use to pretend to be Bolts fan, but that's beside the point. The point is your starting to cross the line between irritating and disrespectful, and I don't appreciate it one bit.

This whole thing started when we began discussion Polamalu. I've been debating about players on this board for several months now and it's always been kept civil. I and the people I am involved with discussions in have always kept a cool head and have been respectful to one another, with some easily repaired incidents in between. You, on the other hand have, throughout this discussion have called me several names (while trying to keep them juvenial, so as not to get banned) including, "drama queen" and "goofball" you've told me to "hush" "shush" and "admit that I'm wrong." I've taken your outright ignorant banter because I assumed eventually you would cool down and move on, but you continue to degrade the integrity of discussion and debate with your unnesarily sarcastic and rude nature.

I'm speaking only for myself here, but I do ask that you please chill out, don't order other members around, and don't (no matter how watered down you make it) call me names.

Have a nice day kiddo. Oh and go Steelers right? :rolleyes:

[TJ21]

I couldnt agree more. I love San Diego and think life would be great being that close to the Chargers and the Beach. There is alot of beauty in Southern California, and I wouldnt ever deny that....but I have never been anywhere that is as beautiful and peaceful as my own backyard....and I am a "poor man" by financial standards. If you liked Eastern Montana, I would urge you to visit the west. I put up with 6 months of snow just so I can live here! :Beer:

Igor, are you a Steinbeck fan? I love the guy. Tortilla Flat and Pearl are very underrated imo. Nice quote! :Beer:

[Joiner18]

Listen kiddo, I'm getting a little sick and tired of you telling people to "shhhhhhh :)" Okay it was kind of funny at first, I thought "Oh well another one of these guys :rolleyes: " but now it's transcended being annoying and become insulting. SDFaiderHater has been on this board a lot longer then you and clearly has engaged in more discussions. Your being disrespectful and naive. I still don't believe your a Chargers fan, I think your just surfing the web looking for stuff you can use to pretend to be Bolts fan, but that's beside the point. The point is your starting to cross the line between irritating and disrespectful, and I don't appreciate it one bit.

This whole thing started when we began discussion Polamalu. I've been debating about players on this board for several months now and it's always been kept civil. I and the people I am involved with discussions in have always kept a cool head and have been respectful to one another, with some easily repaired incidents in between. You, on the other hand have, throughout this discussion have called me several names (while trying to keep them juvenial, so as not to get banned) including, "drama queen" and "goofball" you've told me to "hush" "shush" and "admit that I'm wrong." I've taken your outright ignorant banter because I assumed eventually you would cool down and move on, but you continue to degrade the integrity of discussion and debate with your unnesarily sarcastic and rude nature.

I'm speaking only for myself here, but I do ask that you please chill out, don't order other members around, and don't (no matter how watered down you make it) call me names.

Have a nice day kiddo. Oh and go Steelers right? :rolleyes:

You might be the only one getting bent out of shape here. I've thought the discussion's been lively, but all in fun. You shouldn't take things too seriously.

Please stop turning it into something it's not. I'd like to give you some advice. It may sound familiar (because, ironically, you misapplied it to me):
I do ask that you please chill out tahirjon, don't order other members around.

If my posts upset you, you should simply ignore me.

[Joiner18]

I still don't believe your a Chargers fan, I think your just surfing the web looking for stuff you can use to pretend to be Bolts fan, but that's beside the point.

Not only is it beside the point (the discussion that Troy Polamalu isn't overrated) but it's childish and silly. You should stop.

[canadianfan_51]

can't we all just get along?????
haha

well back to the original topic of this thread....
my choice would be any one of these tackles
Walter Jones
Orlando Pace
Jonathon Ogden

What happened to Kyle Turley? I liked that guy... I remember him having a falling out with Mike Martz and i never heard of him this year at all. Maybe its the fact that canadian sports networks skimp on the NFL stuff. :(

[TJ21]

It may sound familiar (because, ironically, you misapplied it to me):
I do ask that you please chill out tahirjon, don't order other members around.

If my posts upset you, you should simply ignore me.
Hey Kiddo I didn't order you around. I asked that you stop. Once again you take my arguments and just copy and paste them into your own post. "Your a goofball." "Your a drama queen." and "Shhhh." aren't lively fun. They are naive and disresectful comments and I ask you kindly to stop with them. I am calm, I was calm and I will remain calm for the duration of your bandwagoners visit with the Chargers organization. Perhaps you'll continue your charade longer then you had intended simply to spite me. You say you are a fan, but I find it hard to believe (how ever childish it may seem) that you can support two confrence rivals at the same time. The NFL is about loyalty, that is what makes the game fun. But judging from your previous comment, your idea of fun is heavily corrupted.

Peace Kiddo. http://www.ekuador.ch/foro/peace.gif

[TJ21]

What happened to Kyle Turley? I liked that guy... I remember him having a falling out with Mike Martz and i never heard of him this year at all. Maybe its the fact that canadian sports networks skimp on the NFL stuff. :(
No. Not much talk about Turley here either. Good choices btw. :Beer:

[IgorUnchained]

Igor, are you a Steinbeck fan? I love the guy. Tortilla Flat and Pearl are very underrated imo. Nice quote! :Beer:


Steinbeck to me is what Shakespeare seems to be to "intelligent, well-bred, people". Noone can make you "feel" a character in a book like John Steinbeck. His books have great themes and his personal life reflected his art (and vice versa). Cool to hear you are a fan too Tahir!
Tortilla Flats and The Pearl are great books....my favorite Steinbeck (and a top 3 fave of any author) is The Grapes of Wrath.


As for Turley....I like the guy (even though I know I shouldnt), but I think there are big things wrong with his back. He is "hit or miss" at best right now IMO and I am sure he would come with a high price tag. On the bright side, the number of Tattoos on the Bolts roster would go up quite a bit! ;)

[TJ21]

Steinbeck to me is what Shakespeare seems to be to "intelligent, well-bred, people". Noone can make you "feel" a character in a book like John Steinbeck. His books have great themes and his personal life reflected his art (and vice versa). Cool to hear you are a fan too Tahir!
Tortilla Flats and The Pearl are great books....my favorite Steinbeck (and a top 3 fave of any author) is The Grapes of Wrath.

Reading Steinbeck, you'd think you were reading a book written 4 or 5 years ago. Not decades. It's very relatable dialouge and narrative. Oh and I know it's totally unorignal but I have to go with Of Mice and Men. Everytime I read it Lennie's fate stresses me out. The movie was pretty good too btw. Who knew Gary Sinise could direct?!

[BoltsfanNYC]

ummm football

[IgorUnchained]

Reading Steinbeck, you'd think you were reading a book written 4 or 5 years ago. Not decades. It's very relatable dialouge and narrative. Oh and I know it's totally unorignal but I have to go with Of Mice and Men. Everytime I read it Lennie's fate stresses me out. The movie was pretty good too btw. Who knew Gary Sinise could direct?!

Sorry again for the offtopic...

Of Mice and Men is a great book! The thing is, I think the Malkovich/Sinise movie is as good as the book (which never happens in my world). That is one of those movies that is best if I watch alone. :(

East of Eden is another Steinbeck book that is done justice by the movie.



Speaking of free agents.....:)
Anyone think that losing Drew means that we should pick up a special free agent to help out Rivers? Would that make Bentley or Randle El more or less probable?

[Ikeman83]

If I had to pick one Free Agent, it would be DREW BREES!

[BCBoltFan]

Did anyone say Darren Sharper?

[TJ21]

If I had to pick one Free Agent, it would be DREW BREES!
Here! Here! :Beer: :9: :Beer:

[CBO]

Walter Jones