Larry Allen

[loweezy]

The biggest question the Cowboys have this off-season, not just from the line standpoint but the entire team, is the status of longtime Pro Bowl guard Larry Allen. If the Cowboys decide to release Allen to avoid the bonus, they would save about $3.5 million in cap space this year, after eating some $4 million in his prorated signing bonus.
-- DallasCowboys.com

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/scorecard/02/07/truth.rumors.nfl/index.html

what are your guys thoughts on trying to pick up this monster of a guard?

:)

[Alibell1]

Dude has been living off his rep the past 3 years. He's way past his prime, so that would make him perfect for the Raiders.

[bigbolthead21]

yeah, he is to old and too expensive 4 us, that foo should retire

[loweezy]

way past his prime... dude is the strongest man in the nfl... did you see him put up 700 lbs bench pressing?... strongest man in the nfl... they showed it on mnf this year...

[HeadTrip]

Personally I think Igor would smoke pretty much anyone in the NFL in a benching contest. It's just too bad we can't send him out on the field to bench press for the win ;).

Anyway, I think it's time for old Larry to hand up his cleats. He isn't ineffective by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't think we need to go for the 1 year quick fix. I think we can address the guard positions by drafting a tackle and moving Olivea to Guard, and perhaps drafting another guard in the 2nd round and/or letting Goff and Deilman fight for the remaining spot.

[meatbucket]

Personally I think Igor would smoke pretty much anyone in the NFL in a benching contest. It's just too bad we can't send him out on the field to bench press for the win ;).

Anyway, I think it's time for old Larry to hand up his cleats. He isn't ineffective by any stretch of the imagination, but I don't think we need to go for the 1 year quick fix. I think we can address the guard positions by drafting a tackle and moving Olivea to Guard, and perhaps drafting another guard in the 2nd round and/or letting Goff and Deilman fight for the remaining spot.

what'd igor bench in the combine, 43 reps? 44? from what i've seen in the gym that equates to a max of about 500 lbs, give or take. unlless the guy just has an overabundance of fast-twitch fibers (doubtful by the motor he plays with on sunday) i don't think he can bench 700.

[boltskickass21]

what'd igor bench in the combine, 43 reps? 44? from what i've seen in the gym that equates to a max of about 500 lbs, give or take. unlless the guy just has an overabundance of fast-twitch fibers (doubtful by the motor he plays with on sunday) i don't think he can bench 700.
I believe he did 51 or 52, i am not sure though

[chargersfan1777]

He bench-pressed 225 pounds 41 times. At Oregon, he set a team record with a 505-pound bench press and during his on-campus pre-draft workout, he increased his 225-pound bench press to 43 reps.

[SDFaiderHater]

He bench-pressed 225 pounds 41 times. At Oregon, he set a team record with a 505-pound bench press and during his on-campus pre-draft workout, he increased his 225-pound bench press to 43 reps.

thats insane, i've known about this for quite some time, but it still amazes me he could do that.

[HighBoltage]

Dude has been living off his rep the past 3 years. He's way past his prime, so that would make him perfect for the Raiders.

LoL. Hilarious.

[meatbucket]

thats insane, i've known about this for quite some time, but it still amazes me he could do that.

there are a lot of guys at my gym that can bench more. granted they are bodybuilders and steroid freaks mostly, but then so are pro athletes.

[loweezy]

larry allen obviously aint what he used to be. but he is a future hall of famer... i think he has a little gas left in his tank... and is a great run blocker... granted... he'd be a quick fix... and probably expensive... but if his market value went down... i wouldn't mind picking him up

[ChampCharger]

larry allen obviously aint what he used to be. but he is a future hall of famer... i think he has a little gas left in his tank... and is a great run blocker... granted... he'd be a quick fix... and probably expensive... but if his market value went down... i wouldn't mind picking him up

Agreed. This guy is a monster at the goal line.

[sonorajim]

Larry Allen is a Hall Of Fame candidate at Guard. He's had an awesome career and is still an incredible physical specimen. That said, he's getting old. I don't think he'd be a good value pickup for us.

[loweezy]

larry allen just did 43 reps of 225 at the strongest man competition at the probowl

[Podium]

So Igor did 45 his rookie year, do you want to put him at OG now?

[LT21Fan]

So Igor did 45 his rookie year, do you want to put him at OG now?

as long as he can make some holes for LT..why not!

[Podium]

as long as he can make some holes for LT..why not!

True!, but not my point. My point was that just because he can bench 225 43 times, doesn't mean he's still gonna be a great Offensive lineman. Just because Igor can do it 45 times, does that make him a good Offensive Lineman?

[LT21Fan]

No, but it is a BIG part of being a good OL/DL, if your not able to overpower the other teams big guys, your not gonna be too good in the run game

[loweezy]

the point made about igor is moot...

larry allen is a future hall of famer... my point being, he still as strong as anyone in this league still...

[Sirbob]

Can we play Igor at OG/blocking tightend? lets play him on bloth sides! Then he gets to the pro bolw trust me.

[ptr77]

way past his prime... dude is the strongest man in the nfl... did you see him put up 700 lbs bench pressing?... strongest man in the nfl... they showed it on mnf this year...

lol, you've never seen the guy play though have you? Leg strength is key in all blocking not how much u can bench. The guy is overweight and has all his strength upstairs and doesn't have the drive he used to have. He also comes into camp every year at like 400 pounds and has to be reconditioned, he is living off of rep. That line consisted of Rob Petitti (giant guy believed he weighed about 350, very good run blocker) flozell adams (giant, pro bowler) marco rivera (pro bowler very mobile), and al johnson and allen (pro bowler), but dallas couldn't protect bledsoe or open holes for their talented rb's. Allen is overrated. if a fat run blocker is what you want you should of kept fonoti. The chargers need to draft a guard or tackle and then pick up a young tackle in FA, not spend it on an overrated guard.

[Podium]

lol, you've never seen the guy play though have you? Leg strength is key in all blocking not how much u can bench. The guy is overweight and has all his strength upstairs and doesn't have the drive he used to have. He also comes into camp every year at like 400 pounds and has to be reconditioned, he is living off of rep. That line consisted of Rob Petitti (giant guy believed he weighed about 350, very good run blocker) flozell adams (giant, pro bowler) marco rivera (pro bowler very mobile), and al johnson and allen (pro bowler), but dallas couldn't protect bledsoe or open holes for their talented rb's. Allen is overrated. if a fat run blocker is what you want you should of kept fonoti. The chargers need to draft a guard or tackle and then pick up a young tackle in FA, not spend it on an overrated guard.

Thank You!:Beer:

[loweezy]

lol, you've never seen the guy play though have you? Leg strength is key in all blocking not how much u can bench. The guy is overweight and has all his strength upstairs and doesn't have the drive he used to have. He also comes into camp every year at like 400 pounds and has to be reconditioned, he is living off of rep. That line consisted of Rob Petitti (giant guy believed he weighed about 350, very good run blocker) flozell adams (giant, pro bowler) marco rivera (pro bowler very mobile), and al johnson and allen (pro bowler), but dallas couldn't protect bledsoe or open holes for their talented rb's. Allen is overrated. if a fat run blocker is what you want you should of kept fonoti. The chargers need to draft a guard or tackle and then pick up a young tackle in FA, not spend it on an overrated guard.

could very well be... we all know that the dallas line was unstoppable... i haven't seen much of dallas this year...but larry allen is still a probowler... they lost flozell adams early in the year... which also hurts them... (see what happened to us when we lost oben)... we just weren't consistent... living off his rep? the guy is a monster to run behind. anyway... just was curious on what you all thought about him... i'm kinda neutral... i'd be in favor of it... if, the price tag was right... i obviously don't want an overpaid, overweight, and over the hill player...

[Podium]

could very well be... we all know that the dallas line was unstoppable... i haven't seen much of dallas this year...but larry allen is still a probowler... they lost flozell adams early in the year... which also hurts them... (see what happened to us when we lost oben)... we just weren't consistent... living off his rep? the guy is a monster to run behind. anyway... just was curious on what you all thought about him... i'm kinda neutral... i'd be in favor of it... if, the price tag was right... i obviously don't want an overpaid, overweight, and over the hill player...

well, then we're in agreement:Beer:

Does anybody remember if it was Larry Allen who attacked the kicker this year? I'm pretty sure it was him, but it might have been another O-lineman.

[Ikeman83]

lol, you've never seen the guy play though have you? Leg strength is key in all blocking not how much u can bench. The guy is overweight and has all his strength upstairs and doesn't have the drive he used to have. He also comes into camp every year at like 400 pounds and has to be reconditioned, he is living off of rep. That line consisted of Rob Petitti (giant guy believed he weighed about 350, very good run blocker) flozell adams (giant, pro bowler) marco rivera (pro bowler very mobile), and al johnson and allen (pro bowler), but dallas couldn't protect bledsoe or open holes for their talented rb's. Allen is overrated. if a fat run blocker is what you want you should of kept fonoti. The chargers need to draft a guard or tackle and then pick up a young tackle in FA, not spend it on an overrated guard.

Run blocking is about leg drive, pass pro is about upper body strength. If you're using your upper body during run blocking, it's called holding.

[ptr77]

Run blocking is about leg drive, pass pro is about upper body strength. If you're using your upper body during run blocking, it's called holding.

Man, if you've ever played football, all coaches, players, and generally anyone will tell you it all starts at you're feet and moves up. In pass blocking if you hold you're stance and plant you're feet in a bull rush its you should be using you're legs more than you're arms. Lifting, football, and most sports are all about leg strength and knee bend, not about having enormous bench press #'s. The upper body is used in all blocking no doubt but benching 700 pounds doesn't really help allen when the guy is quicker off the line than him or uses better leverage and technique.

Oh and to the other guy, yes allen lifted his kicker up and shook him like a rag doll, very classy.

[Super.Chargers]

Larry Allen is still one of the strongest olines men in the NFL today

he would help block for rivers and bring leadership to our oline...

but i hear the Texans are making a big push for um so who knows...

[rubbermusic]

what'd igor bench in the combine, 43 reps? 44? from what i've seen in the gym that equates to a max of about 500 lbs, give or take. unlless the guy just has an overabundance of fast-twitch fibers (doubtful by the motor he plays with on sunday) i don't think he can bench 700.

Doesn't matter how strong or fast you are on the practice field...it's only matters how your Sundays go. Allen is still one of the strongest in the NFL but on sundays it hasn't been translating into a lot of yardage and protection. Igor may be the strongest on our team but how many chargers would you rank ahead of the guy talent-wise? It's not all in the strength, it's in the initiative, stamina, speed, intelligence, and heart also.

Allen may have the Intelligence and the heart, but the rest is fading.