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robanalog
02-15-2006, 03:05 PM
Just heard on a 1090 newsbreak that the Jets have parted ways with Ty Law. Hmmm...

JoeMcRugby
02-15-2006, 03:09 PM
As long as he's not looking to break the bank, it would be interesting to stick him back at safety, it might be a good fit.

Something tells me that he's looking to break the bank and may not want to move to safety, though.

O-line, S and ILB need to be addressed before CB IMO. We'll have to wait and see.

dserrano86
02-15-2006, 03:16 PM
We do need much help at CB.
Quentin Jammer and Sammy Davis haven't played up to their potential

We should look to pick this guy up and hopefully he can bring our INT's up.

JoeMcRugby
02-15-2006, 03:20 PM
We do need much help at CB.
Quentin Jammer and Sammy Davis haven't played up to their potential

We should look to pick this guy up and hopefully he can bring our INT's up.

Sammy Davis isn't a starter and Quentin Jammer played extremely well over the last 10 weeks of the 2006 season.

If you looked at the games closely this year, you'd notice that it was the middle of the field where the Bolts got consistently burned. Safety help is more urgent than CB. Having said that, getting Law to play safety at a decent price would be fine with me.

One way or another, safety (as well as o-line and ILB) must be addressed before CB IMO.

dserrano86
02-15-2006, 03:27 PM
Sammy Davis isn't a starter and Quentin Jammer played extremely well over the last 10 weeks of the 2006 season.

If you looked at the games closely this year, you'd notice that it was the middle of the field where the Bolts got consistently burned. Safety help is more urgent than CB. Having said that, getting Law to play safety at a decent price would be fine with me.

One way or another, safety (as well as o-line and ILB) must be addressed before CB IMO.

correct that, we need help in our secondary

Quentin Jammer is good but he needs to become a playmaker and start picking those balls off.

ChampCharger
02-15-2006, 03:31 PM
Ty Law would bring our INT's up and we shouldn't be rotating our #2 CB between Sammy Davis and Drayton Florence (Considering Fletcher'll leave). They simply aren't superbowl caliber. We're not developing players. We're making a run to the Super Bowl next year.

Two guys who should be Chargers in 06: Ty Law and LeCharles Bentley...After that Draft Draft Draft!!! (I believe we can draft an adequate safety in the first)

BoltsfanNYC
02-15-2006, 03:38 PM
bentley law and HOPE! then we are good to go... DRAFT
19 T
51 T
83 G or C
4-T
5-T LOL!!!

loweezy
02-15-2006, 03:58 PM
Law is interested in playing for a contender. Miami, KC came up... money wise:

" Law, 32, said he is seeking "around $10 million" in guaranteed bonus money."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/sfl-ty021506,0,3387112.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

dserrano86
02-15-2006, 04:09 PM
Law is interested in playing for a contender. Miami, KC came up... money wise:

" Law, 32, said he is seeking "around $10 million" in guaranteed bonus money."

http://www.newsday.com/sports/football/sfl-ty021506,0,3387112.story?coll=ny-sports-headlines

He will probably stay in the East Coast and go to possibly Miami but I wouldn't mind if A.J. took a shot at Law.

Brother Wolf
02-15-2006, 04:19 PM
I'd rather sign Clements if he's available over Law.

CBO
02-15-2006, 04:37 PM
I was all for getting him last year. I would still like him to come out here. Let him play CB till we have someone better.

Ikeman83
02-15-2006, 04:38 PM
I don't see Law going to Miami or KC because of their cap situations. He might come here, but we'd probably have to give him around a 3-4 year contract with a 10 mil signing bonus

Thunderstruck21
02-15-2006, 04:41 PM
Law is one of the best CB in the league, even thought he is getting on in years. But the chargers do need a veteran leader in the secondary and ty law could be the man for the right price, which the chargers should be able to do, the only question is will they.

Ikeman83
02-15-2006, 04:45 PM
I don't think Law would play safety for us because I don't see that as being his style. Law is a shutdown one-on-one corner, not a centerfield safety or rover safety type. Putting Law at safety would be like putting Abraham at OLB(without the obvious depth issues).

iodude122
02-15-2006, 04:46 PM
Realistically....How far will our money under the cap spread? We keep signing our own which is great, but the cap room is disappearing. We still have Brees out there, and he is going to take a considerable amount. Then we have to sign the players we draft. Is it really possible to sign any free agents???

SuperBowlBolts
02-15-2006, 04:50 PM
Realistically....How far will our money under the cap spread? We keep signing our own which is great, but the cap room is disappearing. We still have Brees out there, and he is going to take a considerable amount. Then we have to sign the players we draft. Is it really possible to sign any free agents???
yes, but we cant go out and sign many big name guys, i rather go for Bently.

BoltsfanNYC
02-15-2006, 04:50 PM
actually latest cap number is up we have like 27 left at this point... we can easily afford...
LAW bentley and Hope.. and runyan and sign our draft choices now will ownership step up and get the job done!

Ikeman83
02-15-2006, 04:54 PM
actually latest cap number is up we have like 27 left at this point... we can easily afford...
LAW bentley and Hope.. and runyan and sign our draft choices now will ownership step up and get the job done!

27 - Drew's 6-10 M = 17-21 Mil

Why sign Runyan? He's a right tackle, we want to draft a LT to move to RT and then sign a veteran LT, someone like Backus.

Where is your source on this 27 mil we have left under the cap? when is it from? I wasn't even aware that the salary cap had been decided on (92.5, 95, 97?).

Please post sources, thanks.

BoltsfanNYC
02-15-2006, 04:55 PM
god why could we sign him last year! oh well!

BoltsfanNYC
02-15-2006, 04:56 PM
missed your post...
just heard on ESPN cap will be around 100!!!100.5!
so we have aton left. that said drew may be tagged and bagged for a player... thus we incure the player notthe 6 mil.
prorated bonus. and cap friendly.

Ikeman83
02-15-2006, 05:07 PM
Uh, there's no prorated anything with Drew. I can barely understand your post. Until you have a link, what one of the radio voices has down as the salary cap probably isn't accurate. As of right now, the only numbers I can find are estimates that it will be between 92-96 million

Just1SuperBowl
02-15-2006, 05:10 PM
I wouldn't want Ty Law to be a San Diego Charger. First, his name doesn't seem to fit for someone in a Chargers' uniform. Second, it'd be hilarious for him to be playing with the guy who juked him to humiliation.

lalo760
02-15-2006, 05:17 PM
can;t stop'em join him hahaha

Rivers2Gates
02-15-2006, 05:19 PM
I wouldn't want Ty Law to be a San Diego Charger. First, his name doesn't seem to fit for someone in a Chargers' uniform. Second, it'd be hilarious for him to be playing with the guy who juked him to humiliation.
What do you mean? His name doesnt look like it would be firt for a charger? that doesnt make any sense and it would be great if we signed him!!

Joiner18
02-15-2006, 05:21 PM
Sammy Davis isn't a starter and Quentin Jammer played extremely well over the last 10 weeks of the 2006 season.

If you looked at the games closely this year, you'd notice that it was the middle of the field where the Bolts got consistently burned. Safety help is more urgent than CB. Having said that, getting Law to play safety at a decent price would be fine with me.

One way or another, safety (as well as o-line and ILB) must be addressed before CB IMO.

I didn't get a chance to watch enough Chargers games this past season (only about half) and I thought Jammer was close to breaking through to the next level of play. This season might be a good one for him.

I agree though that Ty Law would be a good pickup if he's not through the roof price wise.

IgorUnchained
02-15-2006, 05:32 PM
Law, 32, said he is seeking "around $10 million" in guaranteed bonus money.

Law also said a reunion with former Jets coach Herman Edwards in Kansas City is a remote possibility. "Is the (Super Bowl) window still open for the Chiefs? Can the offense still get it done? And can they afford me and Pat (Surtain)?"

In his one season with the Jets, Law led the NFL in interceptions with 10 (a career high) and earned his fifth Pro Bowl berth.


I think if Madison is cheaper we should go that route.....Law is NOT washed up and still has the skills (and rings) to help the Chargers...but that seems like alot of money. 10 mil guaranteed to a guy who might not have any more than 3 years left.

JoeMcRugby
02-15-2006, 05:37 PM
actually latest cap number is up we have like 27 left at this point... we can easily afford...
LAW bentley and Hope.. and runyan and sign our draft choices now will ownership step up and get the job done!
Actually, the cap has not been set. All that's out there are estimates.

The "jump" in the cap is an estimate if a new CBA is reached before the drop-dead date of March 3rd (unless the NFL extends the date before players can become free agents). Taking as fact that the NFL and NFLPA will agree to a new CBA before March 3rd is a leap of faith with no factual basis. No one, including the NFL and NFLPA, knows if they will reach an agreement in time to bump up the cap.

This from John Clayton today, who is usually one of the more authoritative and accurate reporters regarding the NFL cap over the years:
__________________________________

With all incentives counting in 2006 and more dead cap money from players being released, each team will have $2.5 million or $5 million less to spend on free agents. With a new deal, the $92 million cap could jump to around $100 million. It benefits the union to move back the start of free agency as long as it is guaranteed a deal.

There is some optimism a CBA extension could get done. Talks between the union and the league heated up Monday. Conference calls between owners also heated up Monday and Tuesday. This is what Paul Tagliabue calls the 11th hour, so something has to get done in the next 10 days. The process is complex with a lot of issues. There are two topics in which more movement needs to happen -- improved revenue sharing between the high-revenue teams and the low-revenue teams and the players' percentage of the total revenues. The number is negotiable.

Here is how paralyzed things are without a CBA extension. Several teams, including the Panthers and Colts, set aside huge roster bonuses for players that conditionally would turn into signing bonuses in order to create cap room. Those deals are held up until a ruling is made as to whether they fit the 30 percent rule. The Deion Sanders (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=589) 30-percent rule limits the amount of increased compensation players are allowed to receive during the uncapped season. If the rulings go against the teams that have those huge roster bonuses, they might not clear as much cap room as they expected.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=clayton_john#20060215

SDFaiderHater
02-15-2006, 05:38 PM
Sammy Davis isn't a starter and Quentin Jammer played extremely well over the last 10 weeks of the 2006 season.

If you looked at the games closely this year, you'd notice that it was the middle of the field where the Bolts got consistently burned. Safety help is more urgent than CB. Having said that, getting Law to play safety at a decent price would be fine with me.

One way or another, safety (as well as o-line and ILB) must be addressed before CB IMO.

getting Ty to play at corner opposite Jammer would be a better fit IMO...i mean, Jammer is a solid CB, but i think we could upgrade D-flo, then we can let Sammy and Fletcher both move on.

JoeMcRugby
02-15-2006, 05:44 PM
getting Ty to play at corner opposite Jammer would be a better fit IMO...i mean, Jammer is a solid CB, but i think we could upgrade D-flo, then we can let Sammy and Fletcher both move on.

But one way or another, Safety MUST be addressed first, especially considering the Brinks truck of guaranteed cash that Law will demand to play in SD.

O-line must be addressed as well. Signing Ty Law and ignoring safety and the o-line, or going cheap on those positions because the money was used on Law, is not very smart IMO.

If the other areas are guaranteed to be addressed AND the Chargers can get Law for a reasonable contract, then I'd say pull the trigger. With Brees possibly taking up close to $10 million in cap space, it probably will be a no-go. We'll see.

Rivers2Gates
02-15-2006, 05:49 PM
But one way or another, Safety MUST be addressed first, especially considering the Brinks truck of guaranteed cash that Law will demand to play in SD.

O-line must be addressed as well. Signing Ty Law and ignoring safety and the o-line, or going cheap on those positions because the money was used on Law, is not very smart IMO.

If the other areas are guaranteed to be addressed AND the Chargers can get Law for a reasonable contract, then I'd say pull the trigger. With Brees possibly taking up close to $10 million in cap space, it probably will be a no-go. We'll see.
JOE in your honest opinion what do you belive will happan to drew? what is your gut telling you?

poon
02-15-2006, 05:58 PM
But one way or another, Safety MUST be addressed first, especially considering the Brinks truck of guaranteed cash that Law will demand to play in SD.

O-line must be addressed as well. Signing Ty Law and ignoring safety and the o-line, or going cheap on those positions because the money was used on Law, is not very smart IMO.

If the other areas are guaranteed to be addressed AND the Chargers can get Law for a reasonable contract, then I'd say pull the trigger. With Brees possibly taking up close to $10 million in cap space, it probably will be a no-go. We'll see.

Which safefy position are you addressing Joe? The FS (Jue and Hart) or the SS (Keil)?

bolts4ever21
02-15-2006, 05:59 PM
Law would look nice in a Charger uniform. But I wouldn't want to spend so much money on him. As stated earlier by the veterans of this forum, we have other needs to address with that money. The reason we have this cap room is because AJ has been good at not blowing it on anyone one player. Especailly not on a CB, who still may have another year or two years left. Its nice to dream about a situation like this. But this is business and it doesn't seem to be good business to go this route.

TJ21
02-15-2006, 06:01 PM
Law would look nice in a Charger uniform. But I wouldn't want to spend so much money on him. As stated earlier by the veterans of this forum, we have other needs to address with that money. The reason we have this cap room is because AJ has been good at not blowing it on anyone one player. Especailly not on a CB, who still may have another year or two years left. Its nice to dream about a situation like this. But this is business and it doesn't seem to be good business to go this route.
We should use our cap room though. All of it. Imrpove the team in the now, don't save for later. That being said, Law could end up doing nothing or being great as a Bolt. :Beer:

SuperBowlBolts
02-15-2006, 06:01 PM
Which safefy position are you addressing Joe? The FS (Jue and Hart) or the SS (Keil)?
SS is the safety position which needs the upgrade the most. Jue is fine. Kiel on the other hand is a solid back-up

HighBoltage
02-15-2006, 06:02 PM
But one way or another, Safety MUST be addressed first, especially considering the Brinks truck of guaranteed cash that Law will demand to play in SD.

O-line must be addressed as well. Signing Ty Law and ignoring safety and the o-line, or going cheap on those positions because the money was used on Law, is not very smart IMO.

If the other areas are guaranteed to be addressed AND the Chargers can get Law for a reasonable contract, then I'd say pull the trigger. With Brees possibly taking up close to $10 million in cap space, it probably will be a no-go. We'll see.
I have not followed any comments here about Jammer moving to safety, but if we did acquire a Law or a Madison why not have D-lo start the opposite corner and move Jammer to safety. I've always wondered if the reason Jammer is not a safety was because the Chargers had no better options at corner than him.

I would like to see Madison and Florence handle the corners with Jammer and Hope at safety positions.

dserrano86
02-15-2006, 06:05 PM
Kiel is a good player but isn't he almost into retirement.

We need a younger player who can make plays in the secondary.

poon
02-15-2006, 06:06 PM
SS is the safety position which needs the upgrade the most. Jue is fine. Kiel on the other hand is a solid back-up

Keil had a great 2004 season though, 97 tackles, a sack, 2 ints, 8 pass def - from memory he was injured this season?

I think the seconday needs a leader more than help at a specific position, a pro-bowl vet with super bowl experiance would fit the roll nicely

poon
02-15-2006, 06:08 PM
Kiel is a good player but isn't he almost into retirement.

We need a younger player who can make plays in the secondary.

Keil has only been around for 3 years, we drafted him in 03

TJ21
02-15-2006, 08:48 PM
Hart and Jue are awesome. Kiel isn't living up to expectations.

BoltsfanNYC
02-15-2006, 08:56 PM
We need a Hope type playerfrom pitt or the guy who is available from Carolina..demps I think... also law is a ball hawk he gambles but makes big plays! I would love him but not at the cost of not getting bentley.. wo is young and an allpro at a position of need for us. also a tackle... then secondary, ILB-dt-g-c draft!

Just1SuperBowl
02-15-2006, 09:08 PM
Hart and Jue are awesome. Kiel isn't living up to expectations.
Agreed. Although I do remember a he recovered a fumble by the Colts' kickoff return man.

HeadTrip
02-15-2006, 09:09 PM
SS is what needs to be upgraded. Jue performed admirably in his first season as a starter in a new system. He was an interception machine until he got his ouchy. Keil has not been up to par as a starter.

nflphd
02-15-2006, 10:26 PM
Just heard on a 1090 newsbreak that the Jets have parted ways with Ty Law. Hmmm...

If we get Ty Law and if Jammer keeps progressing that would be great for our man and cover three defense. But we still need good safeties for cover 2.

nflphd

SuperBowlBolts
02-15-2006, 10:34 PM
Keil had a great 2004 season though, 97 tackles, a sack, 2 ints, 8 pass def - from memory he was injured this season?

I think the seconday needs a leader more than help at a specific position, a pro-bowl vet with super bowl experiance would fit the roll nicely
That was 2004, what he do this year?

SuperBowlBolts
02-15-2006, 10:37 PM
Kiel is a good player but isn't he almost into retirement.

We need a younger player who can make plays in the secondary.
um, i hope thats a typo because if not i dont know what to say. Kiel = young.

hoopdreams
02-16-2006, 12:35 AM
Just heard on a 1090 newsbreak that the Jets have parted ways with Ty Law. Hmmm...

Where is the info? I just checked the New York Jets website and it doesn't say anything about that transaction.

I'm not saying your wrong, I know the Jets have some cap troubles but Ty Law was a pro bowler for them and had ten picks last season. I don't see them letting him go.

JoeMcRugby
02-16-2006, 12:42 AM
Where is the info? I just checked the New York Jets website and it doesn't say anything about that transaction.

I'm not saying your wrong, I know the Jets have some cap troubles but Ty Law was a pro bowler for them and had ten picks last season. I don't see them letting him go.

Nothing official, but "our favorite agent" Carl Poston has proclaimed in the media that there is an agreement to a "divorce":

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2332389

BTW Welcome back, hoopdreams! :Bolt:

DEboltsfan
02-16-2006, 06:53 AM
It would be interesting if we could land Law. But he is not worth stretching the wallet at all. He is 32 and bound to hit wall in his performance at anytime. If he would take a reasonable contract go for it we should land him. Otherwise it would be best to let him go elsewhere.

ChampCharger
02-16-2006, 11:12 AM
Put it this way...The Dallas Cowboys' secondary sucked. So they brought in, not one, but two starting CBs. (Anthony Henry and Aaron Glenn). Not only did their young CB Terrance Newman look spectacular, but Roy Williams of all players was the weakest player in coverage aside from FS.
Bottom Line this defensive secondary was a nightmare for opposing QBs even without a legitimate FS.

If we don't bring in a starting CB, how do we expect our new young SS to play? At a Superbowl level?

If Law wants the $10mil. bonus give it to him. And sign him to a veteran three year deal. Then we could pretty much put any young hardhitter at SS.

BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 11:24 AM
good point... I could sell him his house and have money to goto all the chargers games!

LIGHTS OUT
02-16-2006, 12:02 PM
http://espn.starwave.com/i/nfl/profiles/players/statsid/s3188.jpgLawPro Bowl cornerback Ty Law (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3188)'s tenure with the New York Jets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=nyj) turned out to be a short one.
Law's agent, Carl Poston, told the Newark Star-Ledger on Tuesday that his client and the Jets have agreed to the divorce.
"We've mutually agreed to part ways," Poston told The Star-Ledger. "There's no ill feelings. Ty had a great year. He enjoyed it [in New York]. He held up his end of the bargain. Unfortunately, the Jets had some injury problems that derailed them."
Law, 32, had 62 tackles and a career-high 10 interceptions in 2005, his first season with the Jets after 10 years playing in New England. Law was selected to his fifth Pro Bowl.
The Jets hoped that the hiring of Eric Mangini as head coach might persuade Law to stay. Mangini coached Law when both were with the Patriots.
Law will become an unrestricted free agent after the Jets formally release him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2332389

JoeMcRugby
02-16-2006, 12:09 PM
There's a thread on this in "Free Agency".

I'm merging it.

BOLT_PRIDE
02-16-2006, 01:49 PM
I dont care what it takes we need to sign him. We need a theat in our secondary. We were what? 27th 28th in the pass and for most of the year 1st in stopping the run. I mean think about it we have a solid offense that can score and we all know from past experiances that its defences that win championships. With a shut down defense and solid offense we are super bowl champs!!

BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 01:53 PM
hey enough about law... we want him just not at cap kill price... that said we have between 25-32 available right now... no one knows! all estimates..

will witherspoon and julian peterson? either one of these guys play ILB?
that would be sweet!

FireDawg4487
02-16-2006, 02:06 PM
Sammy Davis isn't a starter and Quentin Jammer played extremely well over the last 10 weeks of the 2006 season.

If you looked at the games closely this year, you'd notice that it was the middle of the field where the Bolts got consistently burned. Safety help is more urgent than CB. Having said that, getting Law to play safety at a decent price would be fine with me.

One way or another, safety (as well as o-line and ILB) must be addressed before CB IMO.


There is no way you move that guy to Safety. He led the league in picks last year, you don't change anything about him.

I say bring him in, make Jammer the #2 and maybe he'll play better there without having to cover a top guy and he'll develop a bit more and be able to take over the #1 spot again after a break. We'd get a lot more INTs, maybe get our current CBs a break and some time to be out of the limelight and take a little pressure off, and we can snag a safety in the draft.

you don't take a veteran corner who's still playing the position close to tops in the NFL and make him switch postions at this point in his career.

FireDawg4487
02-16-2006, 02:17 PM
Where is the info? I just checked the New York Jets website and it doesn't say anything about that transaction.

I'm not saying your wrong, I know the Jets have some cap troubles but Ty Law was a pro bowler for them and had ten picks last season. I don't see them letting him go.

They've said it on ESPN and NFL network that I've seen.

JoeMcRugby
02-16-2006, 02:30 PM
There is no way you move that guy to Safety. He led the league in picks last year, you don't change anything about him.

I say bring him in, make Jammer the #2 and maybe he'll play better there without having to cover a top guy and he'll develop a bit more and be able to take over the #1 spot again after a break. We'd get a lot more INTs, maybe get our current CBs a break and some time to be out of the limelight and take a little pressure off, and we can snag a safety in the draft.

you don't take a veteran corner who's still playing the position close to tops in the NFL and make him switch postions at this point in his career.

How did Rod Woodson do after the switch at around the same age as Law? Moving Ty to safety could prolong his career. Ty has great hands, no doubt, but when you compare his total number of "passes defensed" (INTs and official PDs combined), you'll find that Jammer broke up as many passes as Law did in 2005. The difference being, of course, is that Law held onto the ball for a heck of a lot more INTs.

My point is that safety must be addressed before CB. Safety was a huge reason why the pass defense was once again way below par in 2005.

If they've got another plan to upgrade safety, then bring in Law to play CB if he doesn't want to break the bank. If they don't have a plan to upgrade safety, then they can move Law to safety where he could be an All Pro for years, just like former CBs Woodson and Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott.

Of course, that's all considering that Law isn't looking to break the bank. With the Postons as his agents and Law's past history, I'm not confident that it will happen. Law undoubtedly will be looking to break the bank in his last

Ikeman83
02-16-2006, 03:07 PM
All this talk of moving Law and Jammer to safety needs a little reality check. Neither of these guys would play for safety pay, and we'd be overpaying horribly if we payed a safety a CB salary.

bolts4ever21
02-16-2006, 03:27 PM
Why even think about moving Jammer to a safety position? He's just getting the handle on the CB position. It's not like he is getting old or anything. And Ty Law is a CB. It is a little too soon to make the switch to safety. I am sure he'll take that route like others have done before him and play well. But he isn't looking to do that now.

I do agree with the statement made earlier, that we should use some of our cap room. But to use it on a CB. Before we have Bentley in the fold, just doesn't make sense to me right now. Not to mention the thing going on with Brees.

Get Bentley...

BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 03:51 PM
um... get bentley in the fold first... all other things can come after that...he is a ALL PRO-at 2 spots... gives our line cred and can be a general on the field for the QB!

benji929
02-16-2006, 03:58 PM
There is no way you move that guy to Safety. He led the league in picks last year, you don't change anything about him.

I say bring him in, make Jammer the #2 and maybe he'll play better there without having to cover a top guy and he'll develop a bit more and be able to take over the #1 spot again after a break. We'd get a lot more INTs, maybe get our current CBs a break and some time to be out of the limelight and take a little pressure off, and we can snag a safety in the draft.

you don't take a veteran corner who's still playing the position close to tops in the NFL and make him switch postions at this point in his career.

I think Law was also near the top of the league in pass interference and illegal contact flags last year. I have no stats to back that up, only the information from several sportwriters and friends who are Jets fans. But if that's true, then I wouldn't really want law. Think about Jammer early last season and two seasons ago and how frustrated everyone were about his PI's. Moving Law to Safety would cut down on his penalties, and safety is a bigger need for the Chargers than CB IMO.

On the other hand, the Jets' pass D last year was ranked 2nd according to Football Outsider's DVOA (Defense-adjusted Value Over Average). Law was probably a big part of that.

So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'll trust AJ's decision. I think Law would be a good addition here but is not the Charger's biggest need. I would focus on signing LeCharles Bentley or Steve Hutchinson if he's available before anyone else.

BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 04:11 PM
i agree bentley 1 hutch not available... or he and bentley 1-2

BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 04:11 PM
then draft T x 2 AND a safety

Thunderstruck
02-16-2006, 04:22 PM
If we signed Ty Law and had Law and Jammer as our starting corners, could Florence play safety?

Boltz2175
02-16-2006, 05:21 PM
bentley law and HOPE! then we are good to go... DRAFT
19 T
51 T
83 G or C
4-T
5-T LOL!!!
I hope thats what we do...except shouldnt we maybe try and grab at least one wideout..at least!!!:19:

KYChargersFan21
02-16-2006, 05:24 PM
I'd rather sign Clements if he's available over Law.


Yea i would to.......clements is younger is close in talent as law.

nayip2002
02-17-2006, 07:11 AM
Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law's tenure with the New York Jets turned out to be a short one.

Law's agent, Carl Poston, told the Newark Star-Ledger on Tuesday that his client and the Jets have agreed to the divorce.

"We've mutually agreed to part ways," Poston told The Star-Ledger. "There's no ill feelings. Ty had a great year. He enjoyed it [in New York]. He held up his end of the bargain. Unfortunately, the Jets had some injury problems that derailed them."

Law, 32, had 62 tackles and a career-high 10 interceptions in 2005, his first season with the Jets after 10 years playing in New England. Law was selected to his fifth Pro Bowl.

The Jets hoped that the hiring of Eric Mangini as head coach might persuade Law to stay. Mangini coached Law when both were with the Patriots.

Law will become an unrestricted free agent after the Jets formally release him.

nayip2002
02-17-2006, 07:14 AM
We do need much help at CB.
Quentin Jammer and Sammy Davis haven't played up to their potential

We should look to pick this guy up and hopefully he can bring our INT's up.

u havent been watching to many games then quentin was a top 5 db in the last 8 games of the year he just doesnt make a lot of int.!!! but he shuts down his zone!!

Rivers2Gates
02-17-2006, 07:26 AM
Well we have been talking about this for four days now!! This is in the free agents section,
mods please close this.

SuperBowlBolts
02-17-2006, 07:34 AM
Pro Bowl cornerback Ty Law's tenure with the New York Jets turned out to be a short one.

Law's agent, Carl Poston, told the Newark Star-Ledger on Tuesday that his client and the Jets have agreed to the divorce.

"We've mutually agreed to part ways," Poston told The Star-Ledger. "There's no ill feelings. Ty had a great year. He enjoyed it [in New York]. He held up his end of the bargain. Unfortunately, the Jets had some injury problems that derailed them."

Law, 32, had 62 tackles and a career-high 10 interceptions in 2005, his first season with the Jets after 10 years playing in New England. Law was selected to his fifth Pro Bowl.

The Jets hoped that the hiring of Eric Mangini as head coach might persuade Law to stay. Mangini coached Law when both were with the Patriots.

Law will become an unrestricted free agent after the Jets formally release him.
Please before you post make sure theres not another thread on this....

ghost
02-17-2006, 08:17 AM
Agree. No more Ty Law threads. Ridiculous.

hartleyjc1
02-17-2006, 09:16 AM
****can Sammy Davis he is horrible and plays like he is scared of contact. We need to make a run for the money this year. Law is a good start, he had ten picks last year. We need some veteran presence back there and the Chargers are not in the position to groom a new corner.

JoeMcRugby
02-17-2006, 10:49 AM
****can Sammy Davis he is horrible and plays like he is scared of contact. We need to make a run for the money this year. Law is a good start, he had ten picks last year. We need some veteran presence back there and the Chargers are not in the position to groom a new corner.

Sammy Davis is a nickle/dime back for the Chargers. He's not a starter.

FireDawg4487
02-17-2006, 01:07 PM
How did Rod Woodson do after the switch at around the same age as Law? Moving Ty to safety could prolong his career. Ty has great hands, no doubt, but when you compare his total number of "passes defensed" (INTs and official PDs combined), you'll find that Jammer broke up as many passes as Law did in 2005. The difference being, of course, is that Law held onto the ball for a heck of a lot more INTs.

My point is that safety must be addressed before CB. Safety was a huge reason why the pass defense was once again way below par in 2005.

If they've got another plan to upgrade safety, then bring in Law to play CB if he doesn't want to break the bank. If they don't have a plan to upgrade safety, then they can move Law to safety where he could be an All Pro for years, just like former CBs Woodson and Hall of Famer Ronnie Lott.

Of course, that's all considering that Law isn't looking to break the bank. With the Postons as his agents and Law's past history, I'm not confident that it will happen. Law undoubtedly will be looking to break the bank in his last


I agree that Safety must be adressed first, but I think passing up an opportunity to grab a player of his caliber would be a huge mistake when we're so close to being a Super Bowl contender.

One of the major problems we had last year was out turnover diferential. We got our sacks and pressure way up which made the QBs throw balls that they didn't want to, and we didn't take advantage. IMO this may be the biggest thing we can adress this offseason because as much as I hate to think it, I think we're going to have a Rookie QB starting for us this year,(That wasn't meant negative against Rivers in any way. I have nothing against Rivers I followed him in college) and he'll need all the field position, and opportunities he can get.

We do need an enforcer/ball hawk safety, but I don't see one out there in FA, where I do see a ballhawk CB. I don't think we'll be spending the money on Brees, and we will have the cap space due to that to make this move. I think we can get a safety in the draft. I don't think Jammer or Law would be our solution there.

LTfan4life
02-17-2006, 05:15 PM
Law wants to be a Dolphin. I think we'd have a better chance at Sam Madison anyway.

DEboltsfan
02-20-2006, 06:09 PM
Law wants too much $$$$$$$$. Let someone else give him the 10 million signing bonus that he is looking for. I admit that we could use 10 picks in our secondary but I don't want to see the Bolts break the bank for corner in the twilight of his career. Plus, have you ever seen him try to tackle a running back one on one on a screen............ugly!

BoltFiend
02-22-2006, 11:01 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2339793


Would any of you want Law on the team? I think he would be a nice addition.

HighBoltage
02-22-2006, 11:06 AM
Depending on what he wants to be paid I think he would be a great addition to our secondary. I would love to have that kind of veteran leadership and Super Bowl experience on our team. Who knows? He might give Jammer a spark.

BoltFiend
02-22-2006, 11:08 AM
Depending on what he wants to be paid I think he would be a great addition to our secondary. I would love to have that kind of veteran leadership and Super Bowl experience on our team. Who knows? He might give Jammer a spark.

I still think he's got some juice left in the tank...

yodafro
02-22-2006, 11:09 AM
I don't think the Chargers will offer Law the kind of contract he's looking for.
Unless Brees leaves. Then they have all sorts of cap room to work with. Hopefully Brees remains a Charger though.

JoeMcRugby
02-22-2006, 11:17 AM
Merging this one with the existing thread in "Free Agency" forum. :Bolt:

SD4MG
02-22-2006, 02:23 PM
Ty Law would be a good man for the job, but signing him is something we should have done last year when it was cheap. Is injuries made him a question mark to most teams including the Chargers so he was underpaid by the Jets and now that he's proven (10 ints) that he can still play at a Pro Bowl level he will demand more money. Money that the Chargers should use to resign Brees and get a veteran safety.

Efocus22Z
02-22-2006, 02:41 PM
yeah Law is too expensive, but hey if we don't resign brees then we got some money to spend.

jgarcia
02-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Law is getting older, and even though he has 3 rings under his belt I would like to believe that Clements is hungrier than Law is. Plus Law want to break the bank, and I don't think AJ will have that..

crittydog
02-22-2006, 03:21 PM
clements was fanchised tagged. Law 10 ints last season. He is 32, pro-bowler, and a playmaker in the secondary. we could really use this guy. If we can get him on a 3 year deal, that would be so sweet. They Jets also let the tackle fabini go. He is a very good tackle. It would be nice to see him in a chargers uniform too. I would love to see Law (cornerback), Fabini(tackle), Bentley(center), Hope(safety), and a wide reciever like Moulds added to our team. Add then draft O-line and secondary. We really need to fix the weakest parts of the team which is o-line and secondary.
Brees or Rivers? Whoever is going to GET IT DONE! And get us to post-season. If we add playmakers like law and others, And draft well which AJ Smith seems to do every year. Rivers should be fine if he is the QB, as long as he doesn't turn it over very often.

LightningStorm
02-22-2006, 05:12 PM
I think chargers should grab this guy he is a vetern he had 10 picks and is a super bowl winner that brings leadership to a secondary that needs it. He had more picks this year than thhe whole secondary had in two years he is solid corner and can fill in for 2 to 3 years and grab a saftey in the draft we can rebuild that secondary

LV_BOLT
02-22-2006, 05:19 PM
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I would like to see Law switch to FS, a la Rod Woodson, if he comes here.

Sirbob
02-22-2006, 05:22 PM
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I would like to see Law switch to FS, a la Rod Woodson, if he comes here.
Jammer FS Ty Law#1 CB

Remember we S-U-C-K and need to give the secondary an enima

LIGHTS_OUT 56
02-22-2006, 05:32 PM
I would love Ty Law in powder blue! He's the veteran leader we need in our secondary. With him as our #1 corner, it will only make Jammer better as #2. With a guy like Ko Simpson at #19 we could be one of the best defenses in the league! Get Ty Law AJ!!!

LV_BOLT
02-22-2006, 05:39 PM
I would love Ty Law in powder blue! He's the veteran leader we need in our secondary. With him as our #1 corner, it will only make Jammer better as #2. With a guy like Ko Simpson at #19 we could be one of the best defenses in the league! Get Ty Law AJ!!!

No doubt that would be great for our D, but where do you propose we get help for our o-line if we go D in both FA as well as draft?

LightningStorm
02-22-2006, 05:46 PM
you get the best player avaliable either FA or Draft or both if you can to fill your roster needs

JoeMcRugby
02-22-2006, 06:51 PM
There's already a thread with 85 posts on this topic, so I'm merging this into the Free Agency Forum.

broncossuck7
02-22-2006, 07:13 PM
With all the money we have, the crappy pass D i think Ty Law would be a great addition. What are your thoughts?

Spelling error.....SIGN ty law

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:14 PM
SING Ty law?

poon
02-22-2006, 07:17 PM
is this a charger idol competiton?

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:17 PM
Ty law is too expensive and is on the decline. He can't run with someone like Moss, Porter, chad johnson, etc... He had 10 ints cuz the jets defense was always on the field, and he also had most of his ints from JP Losman, JP Losman!!!!!!!!! people.

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:18 PM
is this a charger idol competiton?
LOL...:p :Beer:

BOLT_PRIDE
02-22-2006, 07:19 PM
Ty law is too expensive and is on the decline. He can't run with someone like Moss, Porter, chad johnson, etc... He had 10 ints cuz the jets defense was always on the field, and he also had most of his ints from JP Losman, JP Losman!!!!!!!!! people.


Ok but all 10 didnt come from him and if you take away those ones he still single handedly (sp?) has more INT's then the whole charger D. I say sign him.

punisher22
02-22-2006, 07:21 PM
so, we would rather pay $10 mil on law than brees... hmm... dont know about that.

ChargerCohen
02-22-2006, 07:22 PM
I hear Ty Law has a delightful tenor.

He had more PI's than Jammer and he doesn't have too long left, and he'll want a monster contract. Pass.

Then again, I'm over here praying the Redskins will cut Chris Samuels to get out of cap hell, so I'm hardly one to pass judgement on wishful thinking.

LaDainianX21
02-22-2006, 07:23 PM
I'll passs on Ty Law.

Yes, he's not a bad player at all, but I'd still pass on him.

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:24 PM
Ok but all 10 didnt come from him and if you take away those ones he still single handedly (sp?) has more INT's then the whole charger D. I say sign him.
No he wouldn't, 4 ints came from losman, so that would make it 6 ints for law if we took those out.... the chargers had 10 ints

Big Bolt Dawg
02-22-2006, 07:25 PM
I would have to say "BOOOOOOO" to Ty Law. He's past his prime and after seeing L.T. shake him out of his cleets I would not want this poster child in blue and gold. I really like Nate Clements from the Bills. I hope A.J. does not pass up on him.

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:27 PM
I would have to say "BOOOOOOO" to Ty Law. He's past his prime and after seeing L.T. shake him out of his cleets I would not want this poster child in blue and gold. I really like Nate Clements from the Bills. I hope A.J. does not pass up on him.
Clements isn't going anywhere cuz he got franchised today...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2339805

BOLT_PRIDE
02-22-2006, 07:28 PM
No he wouldn't, 4 ints came from losman, so that would make it 6 ints for law if we took those out.... the chargers had 10 ints

Ok but still 6 INTS tell me that wouldnt help out this franchise. Not only a threat at turn overs but he still can keep up with most WR's. I think that hes better then the CB's we have right now.

Big Bolt Dawg
02-22-2006, 07:30 PM
Clements isn't going anywhere cuz he got franchised today...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2339805

THAT SUCKS!!! Thanks BigBoltHead21!

JoeMcRugby
02-22-2006, 07:30 PM
People, this is the fifth time I'm merging a thread into the already existing Ty Law thread in the Free Agency forum.

Let's keep the discussion on one thread instead of spreading it across the board.

ChargerCohen
02-22-2006, 07:31 PM
No he wouldn't, 4 ints came from losman, so that would make it 6 ints for law if we took those out.... the chargers had 10 ints


the hell? Uh...the Chargers would have seven wins if you took away two of them this year!

Tom Brady would only have won one superbowl, if you took away the other two.

Also Big Ben would have won the Super Bowl in his rookie year instead of his second if he had won the Super Bowl in his rookie year instead of his second.

You can't just take away things people have done. It makes what you are saying not reality. Not that I'm in favor of Ty Law.

OBQ
02-22-2006, 07:33 PM
With law its all about the money when is about the game the player.
This is the NFL but Drew Brees is the charactor charger player spend the money him . . . . . . . . :9:

The hammer OBQ

bigbolthead21
02-22-2006, 07:35 PM
the hell? Uh...the Chargers would have seven wins if you took away two of them this year!

Tom Brady would only have won one superbowl, if you took away the other two.

Also Big Ben would have won the Super Bowl in his rookie year instead of his second if he had won the Super Bowl in his rookie year instead of his second.

You can't just take away things people have done. It makes what you are saying not reality. Not that I'm in favor of Ty Law.
I was proving bolt pride wrong! Look at what he wrote

eric174u
02-22-2006, 09:43 PM
When Ty Law was available I was upset the Chargers didn't take him and let him go to the Jets. We could have used him last year as he had 10 interceptions ---- so much for the injury, that was his career best. Now, we have a second chance. He should be our first free agent signing. We have sucked in pass defense forever. Let's face it, its true. Now is the time to act. If only we can keep Brees and get Law then we would be much better. Improve the offensive line and we are ready to roll.

JoeMcRugby
02-22-2006, 10:04 PM
Ty Law also led the NFL in pass interference and defensive holding penalties in 2005.

At a reasonable price? Absolutely.

At a break the bank price he's probably looking for? No.

Nomad
02-22-2006, 10:20 PM
Ty Law is not free, he will cost a lot of money! :rolleyes: :Beer: :Bolt:

Rivers2Gates
02-22-2006, 10:22 PM
When Ty Law was available I was upset the Chargers didn't take him and let him go to the Jets. We could have used him last year as he had 10 interceptions ---- so much for the injury, that was his career best. Now, we have a second chance. He should be our first free agent signing. We have sucked in pass defense forever. Let's face it, its true. Now is the time to act. If only we can keep Brees and get Law then we would be much better. Improve the offensive line and we are ready to roll.
I agree for the most part however i think Lecharles will be our first priority this off season i hope we sign him quick!

Rivers2Gates
02-22-2006, 10:23 PM
Ty Law is not free, he will cost a lot of money! :rolleyes: :Beer: :Bolt:
Hey NOMAD, wow we live pretty close, i live near bozeman thats cool,small world!

ltinabottle
02-22-2006, 11:53 PM
He is 32 years old and is asking a heavy price tag for his services. I don't think A.J. will spend that much money for a talent on the physcially downside of his career.

Go Bolts:Bolt:

-Ions2Ground
02-23-2006, 07:07 AM
I would love to see Ty Law as our CB and move Jammer to Safety. I think having a player with the skills and "ball hawk" capabilities would help our secondary immensely!

LIGHTS_OUT 56
02-23-2006, 09:52 AM
Ty Law proved to us last year that he is over that ankle injury, he had 10 picks! That's more than our whole team! Pay this guy AJ, it will be worth it!!!

JoeMcRugby
02-23-2006, 10:03 AM
Ty Law proved to us last year that he is over that ankle injury, he had 10 picks! That's more than our whole team! Pay this guy AJ, it will be worth it!!!
Depends on how much money he wants. Getting two free agent o-linemen takes precedence over NFL leader in interceptions, pass interference and defensive holding penalties Ty Law, who had as many total passes defensed as Jammer had in 2005 if you count interceptions as defended passes (Jammer had 9 more passes defensed and 9 less interceptions than Law).

If Law wants a reasonable contract for his age, I'm all for it. But not at the expense of the bigger problems on the Chargers roster: a couple of o-linemen and a safety.

jhasley
02-23-2006, 10:06 AM
Ty Law also led the NFL in pass interference and defensive holding penalties in 2005.

At a reasonable price? Absolutely.

At a break the bank price he's probably looking for? No.
wasnt he #2 in 5 yard bump rules also behind quentin jammer...imagine that...him and jammer in the same uniform #1 and #2 in 5 yard interfence calls

Jackdani07
02-24-2006, 04:01 PM
Get him get him get him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chargerville
02-24-2006, 06:11 PM
Ty Law is not free, he will cost a lot of money! :rolleyes: :Beer: :Bolt:Dang, stole my joke! LOL.

psychofan
02-24-2006, 06:39 PM
Even though there are good Cornerback's in this years FA the top 3 all have their own problems teams will look at. Law-Age, Woodson-Age, Plummer-Injuries. If we do sign a defensive back it should be Chris Hope from Pittsburgh. Let Jammer and Fletcher get their experience but have a natural born safety with them.

Jackdani07
02-24-2006, 06:50 PM
Sign Law to a 2 year deal he'll retire after that and his age shouldn't have much of a factor the whole 10 ints is proof of that

milehighcharfan
02-25-2006, 05:08 PM
Ty had a career high 10 interceptions last year but it may not be an upgrade on calls as he is very aggressive just like Jammer. Jammer bits as a CB but may be good safety if the Chargers were smart enough to convert him. :Bolt: