View Full Version : who should the chargers sign in FA top 5
BoltsfanNYC
02-16-2006, 01:47 PM
my guys are listed 1-5 by best being 1.
1. Lecharles bentley...Was with oline coach, he can come in and help coach he knows what the guy wants... he can dominate and build fluid team approach... and is a beast!!! ALL pro!
2. Hope -S-Pitts- This move is smart football. he is young and good would come in and improve us from day 1. he has a ring and will get respect and make Pitt weaker...
3. Best Tackle available age a factor or a guy like Jon RUnyan..he would be a great upgrade for 2 years... he could also help teach... and then when the kid we get in the first round this year or 2nd round is ready we move him in and know we have depth and quality guarding our franchise #21 and the QB!
4. CB-Ty Law... He makes interceptions happen say this and say that... He had more ints than our whole defence himself....
5. WR-Randle el or eric moulds... Here is the reason why... besides tmac our guys drop and dont run good routes... I can make my case for both guys... Moulds teacher and routes and hands... SLash for PR KR 3rd QB and big plays...
besides these guys I left off the guys that will be tagged IE hutchinson... who would be my number one... and I didnt name any tackles... I justlisted TOP!
also ILB is very shallow pool... I would take 1 of the top 3 there too...instead of a WR... I believe in Jackson but he is gonna take some time!
bigbolthead21
02-16-2006, 03:44 PM
I only agree with your first two. Hope and Bentley should be Chargers next season. I think we should draft offensive lineman, and go after jeff backus in FA. Ty Law will be to expensive and he is on the downside of his career now. I would like to get randle el especially if brees leaves, but I rather have someone like david givens. eric moulds might also be too expensive and he is too old, we don't want a couple of thirty year olds running around.
KYChargersFan21
02-16-2006, 03:46 PM
1. LeCharles Bentley C
2. Chris Hope S
3. Nate Clements or Ty Law CB's
4. Antonio Bryant or Randel El or David Givens WR's
5. Any descent o linemen
Podium
02-16-2006, 03:57 PM
1. Drew Brees THE QB
2. LeChuck Bently OG/C
3. Tank Williams S
4. Joe Jurevicius(sp?) WR/ Antonio Bryant WR
5. Ron McKinnon ILB
Boltz2175
02-16-2006, 05:11 PM
1. Ty Law: our defense needs this great corner.
2. Lecharles Bentley: I'd like to move him to guard, but I wouldn't mind if he played Center.
3. Deshea Townsend/Chris Hope: Steelers secondary was good this past year and these guys were a part of that.
4. Antwaan Randle-El/Eric Moulds: I'd take Randle-El over Moulds but either one would be a great contribution.
5. Adam Archuleta: I've heard rumors he might be let go this offseason...Grab Him!!!:Helmet:
SuperBowlBolts
02-16-2006, 05:24 PM
1. Brees
2. Bentley
3. Hope
for 4 and 5 i just dont know
bolts4ever21
02-16-2006, 06:26 PM
Set free: The Saints probably won't franchise or transition defensive end Darren Howard or center LeCharles Bentley, making them available in the free-agent market. Howard was the Saints' franchise player in 2005, but he fell out of favor as the season progressed. Bentley is one of the league's best centers, but the franchise tag for offensive linemen is $6.98 million. The Saints are reluctant to pay a center as much as a tackle, so Bentley might be leaving without draft compensation
I just read this on ESPN.com. I hope this is true. Because I think this signing has got to be one of the biggest offseason. You know, other than Brees. If we can get this guy into the mix. We can look to start filling other spots.
Get Bentley....
edbeck1
02-16-2006, 06:49 PM
Jamar Fletcher
mtxsound
02-16-2006, 10:32 PM
Set free: The Saints probably won't franchise or transition defensive end Darren Howard or center LeCharles Bentley, making them available in the free-agent market. Howard was the Saints' franchise player in 2005, but he fell out of favor as the season progressed. Bentley is one of the league's best centers, but the franchise tag for offensive linemen is $6.98 million. The Saints are reluctant to pay a center as much as a tackle, so Bentley might be leaving without draft compensation
I just read this on ESPN.com. I hope this is true. Because I think this signing has got to be one of the biggest offseason. You know, other than Brees. If we can get this guy into the mix. We can look to start filling other spots.
Get Bentley....
I tend to think were a front runner in the Bentley FA signing, if he doesnt want too muh money.
Rivers2Gates
02-16-2006, 10:41 PM
I only agree with your first two. Hope and Bentley should be Chargers next season. I think we should draft offensive lineman, and go after jeff backus in FA. Ty Law will be to expensive and he is on the downside of his career now. I would like to get randle el especially if brees leaves, but I rather have someone like david givens. eric moulds might also be too expensive and he is too old, we don't want a couple of thirty year olds running around.
TY LAW lead the nfl in interceptions this season, i would not mind his 30 year old ass running around for us.
sundeval
02-16-2006, 10:45 PM
When are you guys going to get off this Randle El kick, he wouldnt improve this team as much as you think. He would be a over paid punt returner, and the Chargers could invest their money somewhere else more wisely.
baddass4444
02-16-2006, 11:02 PM
1. Brees - QB
2. Bentley - C
3. Ty Law / Charles Woodson - CB1
4. Marlon McCree/ Chris Hope - SS/FS
5. Jon Runyan - RT
Evil47
02-16-2006, 11:04 PM
1. Ty Law - Great DB with alot of experience to share with our DB's.
2. Chris Hope - Looks like a Saftey with lots of potential and Super Bowl winning experience.
3. Julian Peterson - LB that can fill in for Godfrey later on.
4. Reggie Wayne - WR with some good hands and speed also from The U.
5. Jamal Lewis - ......
I hope we can get one of these 5.
JoeMcRugby
02-16-2006, 11:16 PM
1. Ty Law - Great DB with alot of experience to share with our DB's.
2. Chris Hope - Looks like a Saftey with lots of potential and Super Bowl winning experience.
3. Julian Peterson - LB that can fill in for Godfrey later on.
4. Reggie Wayne - WR with some good hands and speed also from The U.
5. Jamal Lewis - ......
I hope we can get one of these 5.
Youch - no offensive linemen?
LT LT LT
02-17-2006, 12:39 AM
1. Lecharles Bently
2. Jeff Buckus
3. Jammar Fletcher
4. Demps (solid and cheaper??)
5. Nate Burelson this is a guy that can stretch the field
Bress is #1 in my book but not listed also bring back Leber but not a huge priority with phillips being in front of him
ChampCharger
02-17-2006, 12:54 AM
Anybody who says:
1. Drew Brees
2. LeCharles Bentley
3. Ty Law
Is a genius/mastermind in my book.
LIGHTS OUT
02-17-2006, 06:45 AM
1. Law - This addition makes the most immediate impact on our team. period.
2. Moulds - He is very close to Law as far as impact. I live near Buffalo and have seen Moulds his whole career, He is much better than any other FA WR on the market (Randle El, Wayne etc...). He can stretch the field and catch the big 3rd down over the middle. He has been double teamed his whole career in Buffalo and playing behind poor QBs with NO offensive line (it is even worse than ours, I know that is hard to believe). Despite his situation he has still been very solid, if he is on the same team as Brees, LT, Gates, McCardell etc...look out. He is a real big play WR and his full potential has never been reached!
3. Bentley - Much needed veteran help for our OL.
4. Chris Hope - Adding Law and Hope would help our secondary, and I think we really need the help. Our pass D is as bad as the Chiefs!!
5. Runyan - See comments on Bentley. He would be a short term solution until our draft picks are ready.
P.S. Of course Drew Brees is the highest priority but he is not a FA, and I think he never will be. We will tag him or sign him!
IgorUnchained
02-17-2006, 07:58 AM
Bentley- Pro Bowl depth at 2 positions
Randle El- Imagine Drew Brees, LT, Randle El, Gates, KMac, and a fair guess at what V Jackson could be. There are going to be 3 guys throwing TDs in that group GUARANTEED....and plenty of talent (not to mention a couple of Super Bowl rings) on the receiving end as well!
Steussie/Runyan - Experienced O linemen should be looked at and at least one should be picked up, but that shouldnt affect the fact that Max Jean Gilles and the top tier OTs are still a big priority in the draft.
Hope- Super Bowl ring and best safety in FA....other than that, I am not as blown away as most of you seem to be.
Atari Bigby- SS in the mold of Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu....might be a project, but would help out on special teams immediately and I think could challenge for a starting job when he got used to the system. Bigby was dropped by the Jets around the time they signed Ty Law. The Packers picked him up and are using him as an OLB....I doubt he will make many cuts, and I would grab him in a second.
Ty Law- Super Bowl rings/3-4 Defense experience/impressive production on a horrible team after a devestating injury/........Priceless (Everyone has their price....hopefully AJ can make Law an offer he cant refuse!)
Junior Ioane / Maake Kemoate - a couple of NT backups to look at. They would be relatively cheap and would make me sleep easier knowing there is a true NT backup.
Add a couple of those guys and I think the team could draft its way in to the Super Bowl from there.
RAWDOGG
02-17-2006, 08:04 AM
my guys are listed 1-5 by best being 1.
1. Lecharles bentley...Was with oline coach, he can come in and help coach he knows what the guy wants... he can dominate and build fluid team approach... and is a beast!!! ALL pro!
2. Hope -S-Pitts- This move is smart football. he is young and good would come in and improve us from day 1. he has a ring and will get respect and make Pitt weaker...
3. Best Tackle available age a factor or a guy like Jon RUnyan..he would be a great upgrade for 2 years... he could also help teach... and then when the kid we get in the first round this year or 2nd round is ready we move him in and know we have depth and quality guarding our franchise #21 and the QB!
4. CB-Ty Law... He makes interceptions happen say this and say that... He had more ints than our whole defence himself....
5. WR-Randle el or eric moulds... Here is the reason why... besides tmac our guys drop and dont run good routes... I can make my case for both guys... Moulds teacher and routes and hands... SLash for PR KR 3rd QB and big plays...
besides these guys I left off the guys that will be tagged IE hutchinson... who would be my number one... and I didnt name any tackles... I justlisted TOP!
also ILB is very shallow pool... I would take 1 of the top 3 there too...instead of a WR... I believe in Jackson but he is gonna take some time!
I agree until you get to the recievers, we don't need a FA receiver. We have Parker (who runs great routes, and catches just about everything thrown to him), Gates (enough said), and we have a young great prospect in VJ, who hopefully will remain healthy this year and use his height and speed to dominate as a reciever.:Beer:
RAWDOGG
02-17-2006, 08:06 AM
1. Ty Law - Great DB with alot of experience to share with our DB's.
2. Chris Hope - Looks like a Saftey with lots of potential and Super Bowl winning experience.
3. Julian Peterson - LB that can fill in for Godfrey later on.
4. Reggie Wayne - WR with some good hands and speed also from The U.
5. Jamal Lewis - ......
I hope we can get one of these 5.
I would add 1-2 O-line, before all of these guys.
"Games are won and lost at the line":Beer: :Beer: :Beer:
bigbolthead21
02-17-2006, 01:06 PM
TY LAW lead the nfl in interceptions this season, i would not mind his 30 year old ass running around for us.
ty law also led the league in pass interference calls, plus any one know how many TD's he gave up. Ty law wants more than he's worth, HE IS ON THE DOWNSIDE OF HIS CAREER! Plus, he had 10 interceptions cuz the Jets defense was ALWAYS on the field. He got almost half of his interceptions from losman, LOSMAN!
sartain32
02-17-2006, 01:52 PM
I would like to see these guys playing here next year:
1. LeCharles Bentley: already one of the best in the NFL and has only played 4 years; great to build around.
2. Jon Runyan: Consistantly one of top linemen year in and year out. Still has potentially 4-5 good years left. Can teach the young guys how to win and play in the post season. Has business interests in the community anyway: ie. ownership of AF2's San Diego Riptide.
3. Adam Archuleta: A field general for our leaderless secondary. Can deliver the hit and help in run support. Still young enough to be here a while. He is fast and explosive and knows how to work to improve year-round.
4. Nate Clements: Solid all around CB, can tackle and cover. Great team player. Veteran enough (5 years experience) to step in and help immediately, but young enough to still learn and dominate here for years to come.
5. Jeff Backus: I wish Steve Hutchinson was more likely, but Seattle won't let him go, but I would still take his collegiate teammate. Both are young and dominant. Both have great work ethics and know how to be team players. Backus would come with a much smaller price tag though.
BoltsfanNYC
02-17-2006, 02:15 PM
I salute this guy 3 lineman out of 5... Right out of my heart!
LT LT LT
02-17-2006, 02:59 PM
no reason for backus bently and runyan. Which OT would you take or do u really want all three lineman? I would go backus and bently and then draft a guy.
56lightsout56
02-17-2006, 03:09 PM
I wish we could sign Bently too. Unfortunately, there is about a 90% chance he will be Franchised tagged unless the Saints continue their skinflint modus operandi. Archuleta is intriguing. So is C. Hope. Also like Backus as he is very athletic. A.J. hasnt ponied up a lot of coin for the OL recently but I think it changes a little. Dont know about Clements. their philosophy has been to play zone and Clements is more of a man to man, but if he's there sign him.
Brother Wolf
02-17-2006, 03:24 PM
I'd like:
1) LeChuck... :) That will be his name if he comes to the Chargers...
2) Hope
3) Clements
That's actually all I'd pick up, but...as alternates:
4) Backus
5) Archuleta...I think w/ the right coaching, he can become another John Lynch
But we definetly need to pick up a lineman and someone for the defensive secondary...we will fail w/o getting these positions help! Everyone talks about WR...we are fine in the WR dept. Keenan & Parker are clutch...VJ will come along nicely this year. We can look at picking up a WR next year when we get closer to losing KMac.
Evil47
02-17-2006, 03:56 PM
Steve Hutchison and John Runyan are 2 good O Linemen that are in the Free Agency
JoeMcRugby
02-17-2006, 03:57 PM
I wish we could sign Bently too. Unfortunately, there is about a 90% chance he will be Franchised tagged unless the Saints continue their skinflint modus operandi. Archuleta is intriguing. So is C. Hope. Also like Backus as he is very athletic. A.J. hasnt ponied up a lot of coin for the OL recently but I think it changes a little. Dont know about Clements. their philosophy has been to play zone and Clements is more of a man to man, but if he's there sign him.
I wouldn't be that sure.
In order to franchise tag Bentley, they'd have to pay him the franchise tag of all o-linemen. That means he'd be paid at the level of the top OLTs in the NFL who make twice as much as the highest paid center.
It's very likely that Charles will be cut due to this twist in the tag economics. :)
TCUFAN5
02-17-2006, 03:59 PM
i think that archeleta is going to the bears i have heard that they want him. but id take Backus and Bently over hutchinson.. he's too expensive. but i think that there is something brewing in the FO because why would they resign Feely? unless they plan on getting rid of one of the QBs we all ready have. something is fishy
Tomlinson21
02-17-2006, 04:51 PM
i think that archeleta is going to the bears i have heard that they want him. but id take Backus and Bently over hutchinson.. he's too expensive. but i think that there is something brewing in the FO because why would they resign Feely? unless they plan on getting rid of one of the QBs we all ready have. something is fishy
To the Bears...No WAY!!!! If not Archuletta, Hope would be a huge upgrade in the Safety position.
I'd take Stephen Neal and or Bently at O-line.
Tycebrew
02-17-2006, 05:33 PM
i think that archeleta is going to the bears i have heard that they want him. but id take Backus and Bently over hutchinson.. he's too expensive. but i think that there is something brewing in the FO because why would they resign Feely? unless they plan on getting rid of one of the QBs we all ready have. something is fishy
There's nothing fishy. We always keep 3 QB's.
LT LT LT
02-17-2006, 05:40 PM
I agree with you that we always keep three quarterbacks but not of this caliber. Feeley is not a #3 quarterback in me estimation and neither drew nor phillip is a number 2 so comes across a little fishy. The one thing that makes it less fishy is that AJ always say line them up three deep and let compete so that is deep talent at the QB positon.
Tycebrew
02-17-2006, 05:48 PM
I agree with you that we always keep three quarterbacks but not of this caliber. Feeley is not a #3 quarterback in me estimation and neither drew nor phillip is a number 2 so comes across a little fishy. The one thing that makes it less fishy is that AJ always say line them up three deep and let compete so that is deep talent at the QB positon.
Yes... but trust that Feely is WILLING to be the 3rd string QB or else he wouldn't have restructured his contract. He "knows" he is the 3rd string QB as of this moment.
56lightsout56
02-17-2006, 06:12 PM
I am hoping they cut Bently too. I had a Benson voodoo doll made and handy. Thinking down the line....If Brees is not "tagged" and signs with another team, I know that the League awards compensatory draft picks. Normally its a third round for one of Brees Stature, but it could possibly be higher if petitioned. For those of you with CBA knowledge...can a player once "tagged" have that designation lifted???
JoeMcRugby
02-17-2006, 08:26 PM
I am hoping they cut Bently too. I had a Benson voodoo doll made and handy. Thinking down the line....If Brees is not "tagged" and signs with another team, I know that the League awards compensatory draft picks. Normally its a third round for one of Brees Stature, but it could possibly be higher if petitioned. For those of you with CBA knowledge...can a player once "tagged" have that designation lifted???
To answer a couple of your questions:
The highest compensatory picks are awarded at the end of the 3rd round - no higher.
Compensatory picks are awarded if a team loses more free agents than they pick up in free agency.
If the Chargers were to lose Brees and also lose more free agents than they obtain, they'd certainly get a third rounder for Drew.
However, if the Chargers obtain more free agents than they lose, then they'd get nothing. There's some convoluted formula that the NFL uses that is not disclosed to the general public that figures it all out.
As for your second question: A team can drop the franchise tag designation at any time - before the player signs the contract.
Since Brees will sign the franchise tender before the ink dries on it, the Chargers won't have that option with Drew unless Condon suddenly loses his mind. :p
Podium
02-17-2006, 08:30 PM
To answer a couple of your questions:
The highest compensatory picks are awarded at the end of the 3rd round - no higher.
Compensatory picks are awarded if a team loses more free agents than they pick up in free agency.
If the Chargers were to lose Brees and also lose more free agents than they obtain, they'd certainly get a third rounder for Drew.
However, if the Chargers obtain more free agents than they lose, then they'd get nothing. There's some convoluted formula that the NFL uses that is not disclosed to the general public that figures it all out.
As for your second question: A team can drop the franchise tag designation at any time - before the player signs the contract.
Since Brees will sign the franchise tender before the ink dries on it, the Chargers won't have that option with Drew unless Condon suddenly loses his mind. :p
Remember what Woodson did to the Raiders last year? They tagged him and planned to trade him or something, BUT he signed the tender, which for some reason shocked the Raiders:rolleyes:
BoltsfanNYC
02-17-2006, 10:15 PM
well brees is not getting tagged no worries!
check out my article let me know what you think!
http://www.draftseason.com/index2.php?Page_Name=moose
bolts4ever21
02-17-2006, 10:31 PM
To answer a couple of your questions: :p
You are truly an endless sorce of knowledge... you go charger fan, go..
drangus
02-17-2006, 11:28 PM
You are truly an endless sorce of knowledge... you go charger fan, go..
you go charger fan, go? What the #$%@? I almost busted my guts laughing at this $%&#....................this is not a gay forum frisco bob-take that mess somewhere else and stay away from joe's butt Mr. brownnose
BoltsfanNYC
02-17-2006, 11:51 PM
superbowl in 06-07
meatbucket
02-18-2006, 03:10 AM
I'd like:
5) Archuleta...I think w/ the right coaching, he can become another John Lynch
.
what makes you think he will find the right coaching in san diego? our backfield coaching sucks. thank god we fired the assistant though:rolleyes:
meatbucket
02-18-2006, 03:14 AM
Yes... but trust that Feely is WILLING to be the 3rd string QB or else he wouldn't have restructured his contract. He "knows" he is the 3rd string QB as of this moment.
i think feely sees an opportunity to be the starter with brees' shoulder a question and rivers basically a rookie
bolts4ever21
02-18-2006, 03:32 AM
you go charger fan, go? What the #$%@? I almost busted my guts laughing at this $%&#....................this is not a gay forum frisco bob-take that mess somewhere else and stay away from joe's butt Mr. brownnose
Someone can't have a sense of humor. You have got to be kidding me with the gay ****. Just because I reside in San Francisco. Don't be ignorant. I crack a joke and you give me that.
Joiner18
02-18-2006, 10:14 AM
Set free: The Saints probably won't franchise or transition defensive end Darren Howard or center LeCharles Bentley, making them available in the free-agent market. Howard was the Saints' franchise player in 2005, but he fell out of favor as the season progressed. Bentley is one of the league's best centers, but the franchise tag for offensive linemen is $6.98 million. The Saints are reluctant to pay a center as much as a tackle, so Bentley might be leaving without draft compensation
I just read this on ESPN.com. I hope this is true. Because I think this signing has got to be one of the biggest offseason. You know, other than Brees. If we can get this guy into the mix. We can look to start filling other spots.
Get Bentley....
He's my pick, too.
Tycebrew
02-18-2006, 10:51 AM
i think feely sees an opportunity to be the starter with brees' shoulder a question and rivers basically a rookie
Highly doubtful. I think he knows he's not a starter and wont be one, but still would like a healthy paycheck coming in.
Ikeman83
02-18-2006, 08:33 PM
I think that by signing with us, Feeley has admitted to himself that he's a backup.
LTMvP61nizine
02-18-2006, 08:38 PM
1.QBDrew Brees
2C Lecharles Bently
3.CB Nate Clement (younger I guess, if not Ty law)
4.WR Antwan Randle EL
5. Dont know I guess dept
Brother Wolf
02-18-2006, 08:47 PM
I think Feeley just sees an opportunity to catch a ride w/ a superbowl team!!! ;)
BoltsfanNYC
02-18-2006, 08:51 PM
i go bentley1. backus or runyan 2. hope 3. clements/law/demps. 4.
you go charger fan, go? What the #$%@? I almost busted my guts laughing at this $%&#....................this is not a gay forum frisco bob-take that mess somewhere else and stay away from joe's butt Mr. brownnose
Whoa! Calm down there Drangus. He was merely complimenting the knowledge of another player. No need to get in his face man.
bolts4ever21
02-18-2006, 10:29 PM
Whoa! Calm down there Drangus. He was merely complimenting the knowledge of another player. No need to get in his face man.
It's cool, thanks for getting me back. And if I haven't said it before, thanks for the sig. If Drangus wants to step to me, by all means... try.
I am all for it, but don't pull out the gay card, just because I live in San Francisco. But it is expected from a guy with an avitar of a mock-rock, dungeons and dragon type of fella.
sartain32
02-19-2006, 03:50 AM
LT LT LT: Chances are, we couldn't get all three, but I would try. Unless the Bolts are going to trade Rivers to draft in the top 5 to try and get Ferguson from Virginia, I think this is a weak year for lineman collegiately. I would rather make a move to get players that have proven themselves at the NFL level than draft from what is available in this draft.
56lightsout56: I like Clements because he is more of a "man on" cover guy. If we are going to turn our linebackers loose on the blitz more to punish opposing QBs, we have to be able to run more cover 1. Plus, it is much easier to put cover corners in a zone system than to put zone corners in man coverage. I think Clements gives us more flexibility to run Coach Phillips system.
That is my take...
SDFaiderHater
02-19-2006, 11:26 AM
Bentley- Pro Bowl depth at 2 positions
Randle El- Imagine Drew Brees, LT, Randle El, Gates, KMac, and a fair guess at what V Jackson could be. There are going to be 3 guys throwing TDs in that group GUARANTEED....and plenty of talent (not to mention a couple of Super Bowl rings) on the receiving end as well!
Steussie/Runyan - Experienced O linemen should be looked at and at least one should be picked up, but that shouldnt affect the fact that Max Jean Gilles and the top tier OTs are still a big priority in the draft.
Hope- Super Bowl ring and best safety in FA....other than that, I am not as blown away as most of you seem to be.
Atari Bigby- SS in the mold of Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu....might be a project, but would help out on special teams immediately and I think could challenge for a starting job when he got used to the system. Bigby was dropped by the Jets around the time they signed Ty Law. The Packers picked him up and are using him as an OLB....I doubt he will make many cuts, and I would grab him in a second.
Ty Law- Super Bowl rings/3-4 Defense experience/impressive production on a horrible team after a devestating injury/........Priceless (Everyone has their price....hopefully AJ can make Law an offer he cant refuse!)
Junior Ioane / Maake Kemoate - a couple of NT backups to look at. They would be relatively cheap and would make me sleep easier knowing there is a true NT backup.
Add a couple of those guys and I think the team could draft its way in to the Super Bowl from there.
Hope almost gave up a touchdown that could have turned the game around, if not for a very weak pushoff from the reciever. if we can get Simpson outta the draft, i think it would be a bigger improvement the hope.
1. Bentley-can be a probowler at guard or Center
2. i didnt think so at first, but Ty Law to go opposite jammer.
i personally dont think we need a number 1 reciever, especially since there arent any in this FA market, except TO, which is obviously not going to happen.
BoltsfanNYC
02-19-2006, 11:30 AM
hmmm. well I still think Hope S PITT is a great upgrade over what we have. He can teach us what pitt likes to do, and make us stronger... at a weak link in the armor!
Dabolt
02-19-2006, 11:50 AM
Top 5 Free Agents I would like to suit up in Bolts!!!!
1) Le Charles Bentley
2) Ty Law
3) Eric Moulds
4) Adam Archuleta
5) Lavar Arrington ( If the skins let him go )
Address LT in the Draft to play behind OBEN this season and the Safety position. Ko Simpson or Bing.
edbeck1
02-19-2006, 11:53 AM
There is alot of fight in J Fletcher. Sign him!
wikimama
02-19-2006, 02:53 PM
1.Lecharles Bentley OG-C
2.Jeff Backus OT
3. Will Demps SS
4. Trade a second rounder for Ray Lewis
JoeMcRugby
02-19-2006, 04:21 PM
1.Lecharles Bentley OG-C
2.Jeff Backus OT
3. Will Demps SS
4. Trade a second rounder for Ray Lewis
How are the Chargers going to do 1 through 3 and still do 4?
Remember, Ray Ray is the highest salaried LB in the NFL and he isn't happy with his current $5.5 million salary. He wants a raise on the contract that has three more years to run. :rolleyes:
wikimama
02-19-2006, 04:54 PM
I don't think that they can do all of it but they can do a couple of them.
akstat
02-20-2006, 01:58 PM
Ty law best cover corner in the league would be the biggest upgrade and S will demps WOULD IMPROVE THE TEAM!
badbeat21
02-21-2006, 06:55 PM
1) Drew Brees (QB)
2) LeCharles Bentley, Steve Hutchinson, or John Runyan (OL)
3) Nate Clements Adam Archuleta, or Chris Hope (DBs)
4) Reggie Wayne, Antonio Bryant, David Givens, or Eric Moulds (WRs)
Just a rough outline...Would love to see a couple from 1 through 3...for WR the Bolts could always go after Josh Reed, Jabar Gaffney, Corey Bradford, Peter Warrick, Andre Davis and upgrade cheaper there...also draft OL, DB, WR which ever is needed at that time. The Bolts have a very promising future...sooner rather than later if Brees is back!
RAWDOGG
02-21-2006, 06:58 PM
Brees
Bentley
Law
Wayne
Hope
slvrbuliet
02-22-2006, 07:04 AM
here is my offseason wish list......in the order that i think we need them.
1. Chris Hope - Saftey - Steelers
2. Steve Hutchinson - Guard - Seahawks
3. Ty Law - Corner - Jets
Chris Hope - i think this dude is a beast and sometimes gets overshadowed by the Tazmainian Devil that he plays opposite of. we need someone that is willing to lay someone out and go get that ball
Steve Hutchinson - guy is a three time probowler and hes only 28 or 29. i kinda wanted a good tackle but i dont think any free agents out there are worth it, plus i hear there are some mammouth tackles in the draft this year and i think we should get
Ty Law - i know this is only a short time (one or maybe two year thing) but our corners need some help. Ty could teach them alot and i dont think it would hurt Jammer in the long run to be demoted for a year.
opinions?!?!?!?!??!
Boltz2175
02-22-2006, 09:33 AM
here is my offseason wish list......in the order that i think we need them.
1. Chris Hope - Saftey - Steelers
2. Steve Hutchinson - Guard - Seahawks
3. Ty Law - Corner - Jets
Chris Hope - i think this dude is a beast and sometimes gets overshadowed by the Tazmainian Devil that he plays opposite of. we need someone that is willing to lay someone out and go get that ball
Steve Hutchinson - guy is a three time probowler and hes only 28 or 29. i kinda wanted a good tackle but i dont think any free agents out there are worth it, plus i hear there are some mammouth tackles in the draft this year and i think we should get
Ty Law - i know this is only a short time (one or maybe two year thing) but our corners need some help. Ty could teach them alot and i dont think it would hurt Jammer in the long run to be demoted for a year.
opinions?!?!?!?!??!
My opinion:
Steve Hutchinson-G (Brees or Rivers-----They both need an O-line)
Chris Hope-S
Ty Law-CB
56lightsout56
02-22-2006, 10:58 AM
Good news from http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
Appears the Steelers arent Tagging Safety Chris Hope:
POSTED 11:45 p.m. EST, February 21, 2006; UPDATED 12:36 a.m. EST, February 22, 2006
STEELERS NOT HOPPING ON HOPE
Contrary to recent published reports suggesting that the Steelers are hot for safety Chris Hope, a league source tells us that Hope is not one of the team's top priorities as free agency approaches.
On February 20, ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli wrote that the Steelers have made "verbal overtures" to Hope's agent. The source for the story was, coincidentally, Hope's agent.
"They've told us that Chris is one of their top targets [to re-sign]," Braylon Bennett (a/k/a Some Dude We've Never Previously Heard Of) told Pasquarelli, "and we're taking them at their word."
Just how low of a profile does Bennett have? He has negotiated only one active contract. And his first name isn't even spelled right in the Monday report. It's actually "Bralyn," according to the NFLPA's web site.
Hey, "Bray" or "Bra" or whatever the shorthand version of your name is, you're about to get a lesson on how not to negotiate with the Steelers.
Word is that the folks in the 'Burgh are extremely unhappy with Bennett's posturing, primarily since the team doesn't regard Hope as a "top target."
And as seasoned NFL agents well know, the path to getting a deal done with the Rooneys does not include a stopover on Piss 'Em Off Lane.
Drafted near the bottom of round three in 2002, Hope has spent four years with the Steelers. He was a restricted free agent in 2005, and the Steelers offered the low-end, one-year tender of $656,000. Hope received no offers from any other teams.
Though we don't know where Hope will be playing in 2006, we have a pretty good idea as to where he won't be playing, if his agent continues to misstate the team's position to the media in a manner that makes mad the team that knows a thing or two about letting former draft picks walk away.
Av9114
02-23-2006, 06:44 PM
1. Bentley (OL)
2. Hope/Demps (S)
3. Ayodele (LB)
Bentley
Law
Hutchinson
Woodson
Fabini
Runyan
Hope
TheIceCreamMan
02-24-2006, 12:45 PM
1.Le Charles Bently
2.Charles Woodson
3.Brandon Lloyd
4.Chris Hope
SuperMatt
02-24-2006, 04:31 PM
1. Bentley
2. Hutchinson*
3. Chris Hope
4. Randle El
5. Ty Law*
* Players lost priority due to the fact that I feel they will come with pricetags that are too high.
Hitemhard05
02-26-2006, 04:55 PM
LeCharles Bentley
Antonio Bryant - over 1000 yards with Charlie Frye/Trent Dilfer
Ty Law
Chris Hope
Steve Huchinson
TradeLT4DBs
02-27-2006, 08:04 PM
1. Drew Brees THE QB
2. LeChuck Bently OG/C
3. Tank Williams S
4. Joe Jurevicius(sp?) WR/ Antonio Bryant WR
5. Ron McKinnon ILB
lol "lechuck" nice
Onion Knight
02-27-2006, 08:13 PM
lol "lechuck" nice
Im sure your handle is really popular with the kids!
haahhahahaa
TRUE&GOLD
02-28-2006, 01:35 PM
Everybody here seems to think that we have to sign everybody to become better, which for the most part is true. But we will not be any better until we get rid of Jammer and Davis, there is WAY too much money being paid to these scrubs, we could get a nobody for the league minimum and that person would perform better than either of the 2. It frustrates me that our GM continues to say that our secondary is our main need, but then refuses to talk to Law or Woodson and decides to keep Jammer and Davis year after year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OrtizxPi
02-28-2006, 01:52 PM
maybe you should rethink what you said about jammer. He played good for us the last half of the year. Would be a dumb thing to let him go once he started to show some improvement.
Sanitation Man
02-28-2006, 01:56 PM
maybe you should rethink what you said about jammer. He played good for us the last half of the year. Would be a dumb thing to let him go once he started to show some improvement.
You are right. I for one was a tremendous Jammer basher, but after reviewing tapes from last year, he had shown great improvement in the last 4 games. Yes, he was called for holding at times, but overall, you could see he was working hard.
TRUE&GOLD
02-28-2006, 02:07 PM
No way, that man had 1 good game and that was against the Colts, every deep ball he is either burnt or is called for pass interference, you can't get blinded by a couple moments of "improvement" rather than years of let downs from a top 5 pick.
hoopdreams
02-28-2006, 03:30 PM
Nate Clements had the franchise tag applied yesterday (2/27) by the bills. The list of corners is getting smaller. and I wouldn't be suprised to see the first round pick used on secondary rather than O line.
hoopdreams
02-28-2006, 03:31 PM
No way, that man had 1 good game and that was against the Colts, every deep ball he is either burnt or is called for pass interference, you can't get blinded by a couple moments of "improvement" rather than years of let downs from a top 5 pick.
I disagree, Jammer is a great tackling corner and if he had some help behind him he would make more plays. He will be more productive in future seasons.
rubbermusic
02-28-2006, 03:55 PM
1. Drew Brees - QB
2. LeCharles Bentley - C
3. Sam Madison - CB
4. Troy Vincent - FS
5. Jurevicious/Bryant/Runyon/Moulds/some OL/LT.
TRUE&GOLD
02-28-2006, 04:12 PM
He doesn't tackle any better than any other starting corner, he CANNOT cover anybody man on man, if we don't trade him then maybe they can make him a FS that way he doesn't have to cover anybody, he can just hit people, cuz thats the only thing he can do, that might be a good fit for him, but he definitely isn't a cover DB. And thats what you need to be to be able to play in the NFL!!!!!
rubbermusic
02-28-2006, 05:57 PM
He doesn't tackle any better than any other starting corner, he CANNOT cover anybody man on man, if we don't trade him then maybe they can make him a FS that way he doesn't have to cover anybody, he can just hit people, cuz thats the only thing he can do, that might be a good fit for him, but he definitely isn't a cover DB. And thats what you need to be to be able to play in the NFL!!!!!
Well you have to cover quite a bit as a free safety and that's part of the Chargers problems, they don't have any safeties out there who can cover and take control of the defense like Harrison did. They need to pick up a big safety and a corner for the other side. If Hope is available grab him. If not I would love a Jammer/Madison/Vincent/Kiel secondary with Jue and Hart in sutuational duty.
Sogvet17
02-28-2006, 06:50 PM
No way, that man had 1 good game and that was against the Colts, every deep ball he is either burnt or is called for pass interference, you can't get blinded by a couple moments of "improvement" rather than years of let downs from a top 5 pick.
I think you need to get your facts straight before you start quoting....You are wrong to say Jammer did not have a good second half or the season. In fact, a number of folks at ESPN and NFL.Com quoted that Jammer played as good as any corner in the league his last 5 or 6 games....
SuperBowlBolts
02-28-2006, 06:58 PM
I think you need to get your facts straight before you start quoting....You are wrong to say Jammer did not have a good second half or the season. In fact, a number of folks at ESPN and NFL.Com quoted that Jammer played as good as any corner in the league his last 5 or 6 games....
Also the guy shut down TO! Yah he had a TD but it was a on a play where Jammer wasnt covering him. Enough said.
Ikeman83
03-01-2006, 06:22 AM
Drew Brees...
LT LT LT
03-01-2006, 11:18 PM
Really suprised to see that Ikeman wants to bring back Drew Brees. I thought you wanted Rivers to start this year. :rolleyes:
TRUE&GOLD
03-02-2006, 03:36 PM
I think you need to get your facts straight before you start quoting....You are wrong to say Jammer did not have a good second half or the season. In fact, a number of folks at ESPN and NFL.Com quoted that Jammer played as good as any corner in the league his last 5 or 6 games....
If you have any athletic talent yourself then you would realize that Jammer has been a HUGE bust, and has been since he got in the league. Now don't get me wrong I would love to see the guy play to what they thought his "potential" was, but after 4 years, I just don't see it happening. Maybe he does need some great competition to come in like Madison, Law, Vincent, but nobody in their right mind can sit here and say he is a shutdown corner!!!! You know he's bad when he has a good game when he only has 1 pass interfernce call in a game against him. Even if he doesn't allow a tuchdown for the game he always has a HUGE play that kills us, he either gets burnt or it's a PI call!!!! I'm a huge Charger fan but when someone isn't doing their job then you gotta say so, I think some people on this sight forget that and just love everybody thats a Charger.
06champions
03-02-2006, 04:12 PM
1- Brees, led chargers to an afc west title since 94.
2- Milloy, Super Bowl veteran safety that can start on any team
3- Any of the top O-linemen FA's
4- Randell El, perfect for trick plays that SD likes to use.
5- I guess another O-linemen
TBOLTZCALI
03-02-2006, 05:04 PM
We sign OL, S-Law or Milloy or Archuleta if available, and then some ILB help as well.
LABoltsFan
03-03-2006, 08:55 PM
Rather than build through overpriced superstars with big ego's i think we should build through good values, and hard workers.... i'd look for undervalued players with huge upside potential... look for the hidden gems looking for a new place to start...(obviously, take afew shots at a few superstars, but at some point their value isnt there....)
we need to upgrade a few players, and build our backup ranks.... if backups can fill starter roles, there is a lot more potential and ability to withstand injury.
hankster
03-04-2006, 11:47 AM
Clements has great size and excellent foot speed and acceleration. He stays low in his backpedal and wastes very little motion when he flips his hips to turn and run. He can run with most receivers and, at his size, rarely is in a mismatch. He does an excellent job with the jam and is at his best in press man-to-man coverage. He excels at getting his hands on receivers and rerouting them off the line of scrimmage. He has great upper-body strength and is aggressive with blockers. He doesn't waste time with anyone trying to screen him from the play. He has excellent body control, change-of-direction skills and burst to the ball. He has outstanding top-end speed and can make up for mistakes in coverage. He has very good leaping ability and ball skills. He judges the ball extremely well in the air. He is a threat on punt returns or interception runbacks. He goes hard to the ball, always seems to be around the play and is a very aggressive tackler. He generally takes good pursuit angles but has mental lapses now and then. He gambles too much. He will get caught playing off technique, looking into the backfield and getting beaten by a double move. He needs to improve his focus and concentration.
Nate Clements is the top rated CB available and should be the one to get.
IM DONE
03-04-2006, 12:41 PM
Hey lets sign that QB that EVERYONE is saying is such a steal,,,,,, whats his name????????? O-Yeah it's that Brees guy.. I hear he's good..
Sanitation Man
03-04-2006, 12:55 PM
...If not I would love a Jammer/Madison/Vincent/Kiel secondary with Jue and Hart in sutuational duty.
The main DB problem is Kiel. He cannot cover well, hits soft and poor anticipation. You put an intimidating SS (that has the proper qualities) in there and I guarantee Jammer, D-Flo and Jue will hold their own.
Redjaw
03-04-2006, 12:57 PM
1.BENTLEY
2.DEMPS OR HOPE
3.BEST GUARD OR TACKLE AVALIBLE
4.WILL ALLEN
5.bEST WIDEOUT AVALIBLE
Kevn118
03-04-2006, 01:30 PM
Why dont we get charles woodson....we have plenty of cap space an if we wanted to he could play safety...best free agent aquisition
Podium
03-04-2006, 01:39 PM
Why dont we get charles woodson....we have plenty of cap space an if we wanted to he could play safety...best free agent aquisition
because management has said they're not interested, probably because of his injury history.
hankster
03-04-2006, 02:21 PM
Woodson is a head case and locker room distraction. Clements is rated much higher by all "experts". He is simply the best available.
Podium
03-04-2006, 02:22 PM
Woodson is a head case and locker room distraction. Clements is rated much higher by all "experts". He is simply the best available.
Unless you wanna give up 2 1st round picks, Clements is not available
Farmer808
03-04-2006, 03:42 PM
1.brees
2.bentley
3.curtis
4.hope
5.burelson
bolts4ever21
03-04-2006, 04:21 PM
I tell Raider fans that I hope we get Woodson. I also tell them that they paid too much for him. Hoping he saved the extra money and comes to play for us, for pennies on the dollar.
I think he still has a lot of game left. He is said to play better as a safety, but I don't think he wants to make that move yet. I think Jammer and Woodson would be a nice way to start off 06.
06champions
03-04-2006, 05:15 PM
Nah, I say Milloy. Super Bowl veteran that can straighen out SD's young secondary, and be a leader right away.
lightzout56
03-04-2006, 05:39 PM
1) Eric Moulds, provides more depth to the chart and has plenty of experience.
2) La'Roi Glover, Just look at him!
3) Lacharles Bently, great talent.
4) Antwaan Randle El, speed kills.
5) Nate Clements, great corner.(But I'd like to see this position filled in the draft via Tye Hill, Clemson Tigers. Ran a 4.30 at the combine and I believe he had a 40" or 42" vertical leap.)
boltman329
03-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Lecharles Bentley and move him over to guard
Ty Law
Andre Dyson
Sam Madison
Kevin Mawar
rubbermusic
03-06-2006, 05:39 PM
Lecharles Bentley and move him over to guard
Ty Law
Andre Dyson
Sam Madison
Kevin Mawar
Bentley wants Center. With the demand he is going to have he will definitely be a center in 2006.
billyk06
03-06-2006, 05:53 PM
1.Isaac Bruce(if he's not retained)
2.Lecharles Bently,Jason Fabini, or Kevin Mawae
3. Drew Brees
4.Ty Law,Charles Woodson or Andre Dyson or Sam Madison
5. Lawyer Milloy
6. Lavar Arrington
I believe that if the owner wants to win he'll get atleast 2-3 or 4 of these guys on the list. We got the $$$ no time to be cheap or greedy.:Bolt:
LAbolt
03-06-2006, 06:22 PM
1. ty law, or charles woodson
2. lecharles bentley
3. chris hope/ tank williams
4. randel el/ issac bruce
5.lavar arrington
Chargerville
03-06-2006, 06:54 PM
Since the Chargers are very good at cap management, the Bolts should stick with their policy of staying away from big names and signing solid players. But with so much cap room, the Chargers could afford to pick up one big name, particularly in their weakest position by far, the O-line. Shields or Bentley IMO.
rubbermusic
03-06-2006, 07:20 PM
Since the Chargers are very good at cap management, the Bolts should stick with their policy of staying away from big names and signing solid players. But with so much cap room, the Chargers could afford to pick up one big name, particularly in their weakest position by far, the O-line. Shields or Bentley IMO.
I agree although I would like to see Madison here also.
Bo1TZ
03-06-2006, 07:30 PM
1.Isaac Bruce(if he's not retained)
2.Lecharles Bently,Jason Fabini, or Kevin Mawae
3. Drew Brees
4.Ty Law,Charles Woodson or Andre Dyson or Sam Madison
5. Lawyer Milloy
6. Lavar Arrington
I believe that if the owner wants to win he'll get atleast 2-3 or 4 of these guys on the list. We got the $$$ no time to be cheap or greedy.:Bolt:
I'm not just picking on you Billy I've seen a couple others mention it as well. Why would we sign Issac Bruce? That gives us two aging #2 receivers who are both slowing down, and how would Jackson, Osgood, and Parker develop? I don't see us going out and spending money on overpriced veterans it's not something A.J. does. He's into smaller name free agents and hasn't spent a boatload of money on a veteran since David Boston (and we all know how that worked out).
Tomlinson21
03-06-2006, 07:36 PM
Drew Brees ;)
Lecharles Bentley or Kevin Mawae
Stephen Neal
Adam Archuletta or Chris Hope
Eric Moulds or Isaac Bruce
billyk06
03-07-2006, 09:19 AM
I'm not just picking on you Billy I've seen a couple others mention it as well. Why would we sign Issac Bruce? That gives us two aging #2 receivers who are both slowing down, and how would Jackson, Osgood, and Parker develop? I don't see us going out and spending money on overpriced veterans it's not something A.J. does. He's into smaller name free agents and hasn't spent a boatload of money on a veteran since David Boston (and we all know how that worked out).
Yea, no harm done. I totally get wat ur sayin.But there are still key guys out there hat we could use and i hope to see them in bule and gold.
Lightswitch
03-07-2006, 09:29 AM
First of All Im not so shure we need any defense players. As i recall we lost games last year because of Offense. Our O-Line needs upgrade all around in my opinion. We have the best Running back in the league and can't seem to get more than than a 1600 yard season for his career.
top free agents should be offense our defense is good enough to keep us in games our Offense is not good enough to finish them off.In my opinion. so O-line and WR should be #1 in Free Agency.
laschwa
03-07-2006, 11:06 AM
we need help at the safety position.
a real ball hawk that scares other Qbs.
jue and kiel have to improve a heck of a lot to become a top 15 safety.
OldBoltFan
03-07-2006, 11:40 AM
So what about Jon Runyan?
http://nfl.com/news/story/9287875
What's the scoop on him?
Regards,
Mark
SuperMatt
03-07-2006, 12:29 PM
So what about Jon Runyan?
http://nfl.com/news/story/9287875
What's the scoop on him?
Regards,
Mark
Solid player, Great guy, San Diego ties (part owner of the SD Riptide, Arena2 team), could be a good fit at RT for us.
hoopdreams
03-07-2006, 04:11 PM
we need help at the safety position.
a real ball hawk that scares other Qbs.
jue and kiel have to improve a heck of a lot to become a top 15 safety.
Jue is the problem not Kiel. Terrence Kiel was injured last year but the year before he was one of the leading tacklers on our team. He is also the strongest player in our secondary not to mention the best tackler. Kiel also is a strong safety which is a position geared toward stopping the run, and tackling when guys get behind the secondary. He also has good size.
Bwahoh Jue is a weak free safety and is not fast enough to be a great coverage guy. We need a guy that plays like Sean Taylor. A punishing hitter that keeps recievers scared of going across the middle. He is a small guy and will never be an impact player in the secondary.
I bet that Kiel will be staying. I would love to see a hard hitting guy come to the chargers. I would make an exception if we could get
Huff because he is a burner. However, I wouldlike to see us draft CB Jimmy Williams. He is 6' 3" tall and 210 pounds. He also has the swagger that is required to be a hard hitting safety. He would make a big impact for the chargers.