Will Shields

[staxxx]

Chiefs | Shields to be released
Thu, 2 Mar 2006 10:36:55 -0800

Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports Kansas City Chiefs OL Will Shields has been informed he will be released.

[Tomlinson21]

Will Shields is released....cmon AJ take him. That's who we need in our o-line. it was on foxsports.com

[CBO]

Bentley
Shields
Shaffer

[loweezy]

i'm betting there's a 50/50 chance that shields retires... he was already contemplating it... this could help push him to retirement... but if he has another year in him... he'd be an upgrade for a year or so.

[SuperMatt]

If my math serves me, he's only 34 years old. That's old for some positions, but guys on the oline seem to last much longer into their 30s than other positions. I think Shields would be a nice addition. If we could get Bentley at C and Shields at G, I'd bet we'd be running a lot more effectively inside!

[Podium]

If my math serves me, he's only 34 years old. That's old for some positions, but guys on the oline seem to last much longer into their 30s than other positions. I think Shields would be a nice addition. If we could get Bentley at C and Shields at G, I'd bet we'd be running a lot more effectively inside!

Didn't Ray Brown start a playoff game at 40 something? That's amazing.

[loweezy]

If my math serves me, he's only 34 years old. That's old for some positions, but guys on the oline seem to last much longer into their 30s than other positions. I think Shields would be a nice addition. If we could get Bentley at C and Shields at G, I'd bet we'd be running a lot more effectively inside!

yah... but, he was contemplating retirement already... if we can somehow change his mind... i wouldn't be opposed!

[Tomlinson21]

a 30 plus year old Pro Bowler....I'll take him in a heart beat.

Plus if I'm not mistaken...he has ties with Marty back in KC.

[SDFaiderHater]

i'm betting there's a 50/50 chance that shields retires... he was already contemplating it... this could help push him to retirement... but if he has another year in him... he'd be an upgrade for a year or so.

yea im saying more like 75/25 that he does...

[hoopdreams]

a 30 plus year old Pro Bowler....I'll take him in a heart beat.

Plus if I'm not mistaken...he has ties with Marty back in KC.

Definitely, not to mention he would be an anchor on the line. He is huge, and would bring some leadership to the o line.

[SDFaiderHater]

Definitely, not to mention he would be an anchor on the line. He is huge, and would bring some leadership to the o line.

if we had to chose between Bentley and shields, id have to say bentley. if we can get both, that would be great, but i dont see that happening.

[Podium]

Depending on what Shields wants.

[bolts4ever21]

It would be nice to get Shields. Looking at more cuts to come. Keeping my eye on the Redskins, because I know that they are hurting. Hoping someone like Samuels gets cut.

Most of all, I do like the Chargers to make a hard push for Bentley. Isn't this offseason fun(except for the Brees thing)???

[Tomlinson21]

It would be nice to get Shields. Looking at more cuts to come. Keeping my eye on the Redskins, because I know that they are hurting. Hoping someone like Samuels gets cut.

Most of all, I do like the Chargers to make a hard push for Bentley. Isn't this offseason fun(except for the Brees thing)???
It sure is nice to see all these teams that are in cap hell releasing all these well known players... Shields, Law, Milloy, Glover....but isn't this going to be a non cap year? Joe, help me out on this!

[Boltman19]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5374588


Don't expect our FO to even look at the guy though.

Hey, he's one less guy that we have to worry about next season, but LJ is such a beast

[HeadTrip]

LJ is a beast as long as he has to run over CBs. Lets see him try to run over Igor without his probowl linemen clearing the way.

I don't really care to look at sheilds though. He will cost a buttload and won't be around much longer.

[Podium]

There's 2 other threads on this.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=29073

[baddass4444]

LJ is a beast as long as he has to run over CBs. Lets see him try to run over Igor without his probowl linemen clearing the way.

I don't really care to look at sheilds though. He will cost a buttload and won't be around much longer.

If we can sign him to a 1 year contract worth 2-3 million then its worth it. Just to have him for a SuperBowl run, as well as possible help groom Dielman.

[Boltman19]

LJ is a beast as long as he has to run over CBs. Lets see him try to run over Igor without his probowl linemen clearing the way.

I don't really care to look at sheilds though. He will cost a buttload and won't be around much longer.

Then hopefully, we won't sign Bentley or draft a linemen, because then LT will be overrated in your eyes

[Podium]

It sure is nice to see all these teams that are in cap hell releasing all these well known players... Shields, Law, Milloy, Glover....but isn't this going to be a non cap year? Joe, help me out on this!


2006 cap (if no new CBA) = 94.5

2007 cap = none.

[SDChargeHer]

Man if we can build a GREAT not just decent but great line with L.T. running it and Rivers playing the role of Trent Dilfer we can win the bowl.

[HeadTrip]

Then hopefully, we won't sign Bentley or draft a linemen, because then LT will be overrated in your eyes

LT has already put up record setting numbers with a crappy line, LJ had a good 1/2 of a season. That seems like a big difference to me. We don't need to get into this again, so lets just drop it.

Bad, you might be right about that, if they decide that Dielman is our future at guard. If not, there will be some very good guards available when we pick in the 2nd round. If we go that route I would rather have him compete for a starting job with Dielman.

Another possiblity that has been thrown around the board is drafting a tackle and moving olivea to guard. If that happens I think the Shield signing would be unneccesary, although nice for a little while.

[SDFaiderHater]

2006 cap (if no new CBA) = 94.5

2007 cap = none.

get ready for NY jets versus Ny giants superbowls for the next 15 years. lol in all seriousness, i dont think that it will be the same after this crap.

[loweezy]

It sure is nice to see all these teams that are in cap hell releasing all these well known players... Shields, Law, Milloy, Glover....but isn't this going to be a non cap year? Joe, help me out on this!

There will be a cap this year. 2006's cap will be around 94 to 95 million.
The 2006 season will be like any other season, aside from the massive cuts that are going to take place to make the cap.

2007 is the year that will be uncapped... but in an uncapped year, players will have to have six years of NFL service to become a free agent rather than four. So there likely won't be AS many free agents hitting the market next year. Though, potentially those that do, have the ability to make more... in my personal opinion, i highly doubt teams will throw money at players until they are sure of what the future of football is going to look like.

here's a good article that kind of sums a lot of things up:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/03/01/labor.deal.qa/1.html

[loweezy]

get ready for NY jets versus Ny giants superbowls for the next 15 years. lol in all seriousness, i dont think that it will be the same after this crap.

from the article q&a i posted above.

SI.com: Are you saying that the NFL is not going to become like baseball, with tremendous difference in teams' ability to put competitive teams on the field?
KING: That's exactly what I'm saying. In baseball, the Yankees can spend $210 million on players, while a team in its own division, Tampa Bay, spends about $35 million. In the NFL, even if Daniel Snyder takes in $300 million over the course of the year and buys up five premier free agents every year, even the teams at the bottom of the financial totem pole -- e.g., Buffalo, Jacksonville -- will have $160 to $170 million of gross revenue to play with. Obviously, it won't be as egalitarian a system as the one the league has now. And it won't be as good a system, but we're not headed for any sort of football Armageddon. And don't let anyone tell you differently.

[Podium]

There will be a cap this year. 2006's cap will be around 94 to 95 million.
The 2006 season will be like any other season, aside from the massive cuts that are going to take place to make the cap.

2007 is the year that will be uncapped... but in an uncapped year, players will have to have six years of NFL service to become a free agent rather than four. So there likely won't be AS many free agents hitting the market next year. Though, potentially those that do, have the ability to make more... in my personal opinion, i highly doubt teams will throw money at players until they are sure of what the future of football is going to look like.

here's a good article that kind of sums a lot of things up:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/03/01/labor.deal.qa/1.html

Actually Loweezy, players will be able to be free agents, but they can't become unrestricted until they have 6 accrued seasons, instead of the current 4. Otherwise they're restricted free agents. Just wanted to add on to what you said.

[HighBoltage]

Shields might be willing to put off retirement for one year if the team he went had a shot at the Super Bowl. That would make us a good candidate, plus he knows the KC system/players, plus he has ties with Marty. I see it as a possibility if he's willing to take lower pay for a chance at a ring.

If he's the right price...............sign him, AJ!

[SuperMatt]

Isn't this offseason fun(except for the Brees thing)???

Quoted for truth!!! :D

[JCDavey]

LT has already put up record setting numbers with a crappy line, LJ had a good 1/2 of a season. That seems like a big difference to me. We don't need to get into this again, so lets just drop it.

Bad, you might be right about that, if they decide that Dielman is our future at guard. If not, there will be some very good guards available when we pick in the 2nd round. If we go that route I would rather have him compete for a starting job with Dielman.

Another possiblity that has been thrown around the board is drafting a tackle and moving olivea to guard. If that happens I think the Shield signing would be unneccesary, although nice for a little while.

why do you automatically assume LJ would be a bad rb even with our craptastic line? i love LT but come on, it's no crime to give a guy props, it doesn't make you any less of a charger fan lol

tiki barber does some great stuff too

hey here's one

marcus allen was pretty damn good at times

i'm still a charger fan

[Boltfan92153]

you can give credit to your enemies, as long as it is not at the expense of your team. Max Jean-Gilles in round 2!!!

[REDZONEFOOTBALL]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5374588


Don't expect our FO to even look at the guy though.

Hey, he's one less guy that we have to worry about next season, but LJ is such a beast



LOL...and Shields is probably saying, "Well at least I dont have to get bull-rushed by Merriman twice a year now...."

[HeadTrip]

why do you automatically assume LJ would be a bad rb even with our craptastic line? i love LT but come on, it's no crime to give a guy props, it doesn't make you any less of a charger fan lol

tiki barber does some great stuff too

hey here's one

marcus allen was pretty damn good at times

i'm still a charger fan

Who the hell is assuming anything. I think LJ rounds out the top 5-7 RBs in the league. That doesn't change my mind that he is overrated. People look at his stats from last year and go "ohhh, ahhh" but they don't bother to look at why it's happening. The people who did that are the same people that decided Ruben Drougns, Olandis Gary, and Clinton Portis to a much lesser extent, were can't miss prospects.

For the record, I don't think Johnson could get 1200 yards behind our line being consitantly hit in the backfield. His game is vision and power, and it's hard to use either when you are hit right when you get the ball.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said Johnson was crap, or he would be a failure anywhere else but KC. I said he is overrated and nothing outside of a 1700 yard season with 20 TDs is going to change my mind.

[HighBoltage]

LOL...and Shields is probably saying, "Well at least I dont have to get bull-rushed by Merriman twice a year now...."
lol. Merriman will scare every offensive player in the AFC west out of the division.:Bolt: We need a 56 icon up there! And an 85.

[loweezy]

watch a chiefs game and see the holes that larry johnson runs through... insane. you give lt that kind of space... or barry back in the day for that matter... and OMG

[Boltz2175]

I dont think we really need Wil Shields...what i am excited about is this.........how did KC perform offensively without Shields....Pathetic...Two easy wins for us versus KC if Shields is gone!!!!

[bolts4ever21]

why do you automatically assume LJ would be a bad rb even with our craptastic line? i love LT but come on, it's no crime to give a guy props, it doesn't make you any less of a charger fan lol

tiki barber does some great stuff too

hey here's one

marcus allen was pretty damn good at times

i'm still a charger fan

Good stuff, because I love Football. There are great players on every team. So it ain't wrong to acknowledge it. Plus being in Fantasy Football leagues, you need to know who is ballin. So you learn to appreciate the NFL as a whole.

But I'm still a Charger fan

[loweezy]

how come the chiefs didn't announce it, but they announced the other 4 cuts, i hope they're not changing their mind, and i'm hoping shields gets released still.

[BlueandGoldRush]

I was worried about this. The Chiefs probably informed Shields of the move, but didn't file the paperwork, just in case something like this happened. Smart move on their part. That sucks.


Chiefs offensive lineman Will Shields was also thought to be a cap casualty Thursday but when the start of free agency was extended from Friday to Monday, there became the possibility that Kansas City could retain Shields.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5374588

[chargerlew]

He has not been cut yet. Here's an article from ESPN.com on the Chiefs' cuts.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727

Other veterans who could fall under the salary cap knife are guard Will Shields and safeties Jerome Woods and Greg Wesley, but nothing is done at this time.

[SDChargeHer]

chiefs arent as dumb as the broncos

[56lightsout56]

well this stinks if its true from PFT.com:


ABRAHAM TRADED TO BRONCOS?

A.J. Vaynerchuck of JetsTV.com reports that the New York Jets have struck a deal to ship defensive end John Abraham to the Broncos (http://www.jetstv.com/) in exchange for a first-round pick.

We're in the process of trying to confirm the report.

The Broncos hold the 22nd and 29th picks in round one. Vaynerchuk believes that the 29th pick is being sent to New York.

Our guess is that the Jets might then try to dangle the two first-round picks in an effort to jump up even higher in the draft, possibly as high as the No. 1 overall spot on the board. The Texans could be tempted to make a deal, since it would enable them to snag a guy like tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson at No. 4, giving them another first-rounder later in the day.

NFL teams use a chart that applies point values to draft picks for trade purposes. We don't know whether, under the chart, a No. 4 and a No. 29 would be enough to justify a trade up to No. 1. It's possible that the Jets might have to throw in another pick or two, if they indeed intend to make a run at the top spot.

The Jets slapped the franchise tag on Abraham a week ago, and Abraham has made clear his desire to get out of New York. The Jets have been shopping him for the past few days.

If the report is true, the Broncos' decision to cut on Wednesday defensive lineman Trevor Pryce, running back Mike Anderson, and tight end Jeb Putzier makes plenty of sense. The Broncos needed to clear cap room in order to absorb the new deal that Abraham undoubtedly will sign with the Jets, after putting his John Hancock on the franchise tag. The Jets then would trade the new contract to Denver.

To avoid a cap hit for the Jets, the deal undoubtedly will include not a signing bonus but an option bonus payment due within a few days after the trade is consummated, putting the entire responsibility for his cap number in 2006 and beyond (if there's a cap) on the Broncos.




HEY, AJ: wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JCDavey]

chiefs arent as dumb as the broncos

eh , i think will shields is better than mike anderson or putzier

[SDChargeHer]

eh , i think will shields is better than mike anderson or putzier

Still Mike anderson was their leading rusher and putz their leading/starting TE

[56lightsout56]

any confirmation on the Abraham to Broncos trade yet?

[HeadTrip]

well this stinks if its true from PFT.com:





HEY, AJ: wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thats fine with me. Let them pay out the yang for a single player who cares more about money than the game. This will kick them in the ass as far as salary cap goes.

[LTfan4life]

any confirmation on the Abraham to Broncos trade yet?

Haven't heard of it. Details :confused:

[56lightsout56]

from PFT.com: the article contains a link to a NYJ page:

http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm


ABRAHAM TRADED TO BRONCOS?

A.J. Vaynerchuck of JetsTV.com reports that the New York Jets have struck a deal to ship defensive end John Abraham to the Broncos (http://www.jetstv.com/) in exchange for a first-round pick.

We're in the process of trying to confirm the report.

The Broncos hold the 22nd and 29th picks in round one. Vaynerchuk believes that the 29th pick is being sent to New York.

Our guess is that the Jets might then try to dangle the two first-round picks in an effort to jump up even higher in the draft, possibly as high as the No. 1 overall spot on the board. The Texans could be tempted to make a deal, since it would enable them to snag a guy like tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson at No. 4, giving them another first-rounder later in the day.

NFL teams use a chart that applies point values to draft picks for trade purposes. We don't know whether, under the chart, a No. 4 and a No. 29 would be enough to justify a trade up to No. 1. It's possible that the Jets might have to throw in another pick or two, if they indeed intend to make a run at the top spot.

The Jets slapped the franchise tag on Abraham a week ago, and Abraham has made clear his desire to get out of New York. The Jets have been shopping him for the past few days.

If the report is true, the Broncos' decision to cut on Wednesday defensive lineman Trevor Pryce, running back Mike Anderson, and tight end Jeb Putzier makes plenty of sense. The Broncos needed to clear cap room in order to absorb the new deal that Abraham undoubtedly will sign with the Jets, after putting his John Hancock on the franchise tag. The Jets then would trade the new contract to Denver.

To avoid a cap hit for the Jets, the deal undoubtedly will include not a signing bonus but an option bonus payment due within a few days after the trade is consummated, putting the entire responsibility for his cap number in 2006 and beyond (if there's a cap) on the Broncos.

[JCDavey]

any confirmation on the Abraham to Broncos trade yet?

there's a trade going on during all of this crap? no way lol

[loweezy]

FOXSports.com has learned that a pair of Pro Bowlers in Cowboys defensive tackle La'Roi Glover and Chiefs special teamer Gary Stills have each been told they have been released. Chiefs offensive lineman Will Shields was also thought to be a cap casualty Thursday but when the start of free agency was extended from Friday to Monday, there became the possibility that Kansas City could retain Shields. The Chiefs did release cornerbacks Eric Warfield and Dexter McCleon and linebacker Shawn Barber in addition to Stills.

[iodude122]

How does Denver do that? They are way over the cap already? Where do they get the money?

[Tycebrew]

well this stinks if its true from PFT.com:





HEY, AJ: wake up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Did you go to JetsTv.com? Its a 15 year old kid making videos. I want a better source.

[56lightsout56]

no the original story is on this link:

http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

Mike wouldnt use just that site (JetsTV) to confirm the possible trade. But it is after all, merely a "rumor" at this juncture.

[chiefsgal]

Definitely, not to mention he would be an anchor on the line. He is huge, and would bring some leadership to the o line.



I am relying on the fact that if it's true, and he's gone, he has said MANY times, he will retire a chief..

[guimcharger]

AJ you better get this guy in camp. I am sure he will come here because he has a good chance of winning the SB before he has to retire.

[chiefsgal]

AJ you better get this guy in camp. I am sure he will come here because he has a good chance of winning the SB before he has to retire.








he has said many time's, he will wants to retire a chief, he better not of lied......:mad:

[SD Chargers Fan]

WIll Shields would be GREAT for our O-line.
He can bring that leadership to our young oline and ofcourse his thousands of pro bowl apperances. ( a lil exaggeration)

[Boltz2175]

nothing would make me happier than to see KC's DOMINANT o-line fall apart----it would be right up there with us winning the super bowl next year.

Happiness List:
1. Chargers in Super Bowl
2. Cheifs Failing...no matter how it is, if the ****** fail im happy!
3. Chargers sign back Brees---Chris Mortensen says that Miami is the Favorite 4 Brees.

[HighBoltage]

He has not been cut yet. Here's an article from ESPN.com on the Chiefs' cuts.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2351727
Not cut yet doesn't mean he still won't be cut. If Shields is this close to retirement anyway the Chiefs should focus on his replacement.

[chiefsgal]

chiefs arent as dumb as the broncos







my favorite post today..:p

[Dunder-Mifflin]

if im not mistaken the chargers are the only afc west team under the cap heading into all this, wouldnt shields like to stay in the division and play twice a year against his old team? and if help LT had the same type of line kc has had would he not rush for about 8000 yards?

[lightzout56]

Will Shields would be a great addition to the offensive line.

Lightz Out!!!

[Chargeroo]

Will Shields would be a great addition to the offensive line.

Lightz Out!!!
True, and a nice deduction from the Chiefs. :) The big drawback in him is his age and he said he'll only play one more season.

[TJ21]

True, and a nice deduction from the Chiefs. :) The big drawback in him is his age and he said he'll only play one more season.
Too bad there's not a tag for other teams players. :-/

[Sanitation Man]

True, and a nice deduction from the Chiefs. :) The big drawback in him is his age and he said he'll only play one more season.

The positive is if Shields is picked up and AJ fills the other needs through FA then builds depth through the draft, I've got to believe the Bolts:Bolt: will have a bullseye on the back of their jerseys all the way to Miami.:D

[YetAnotherSDFan]

IMO any veteran FA looking for one last SB run would have to think twice about signing in SD if Brees is gone, its just too big of an uncertainty expecting to go deep in the playoffs with an inexpirenced QB. If I were on that situation I would rather sign with PHI, IND, PIT, NE; solid teams that have a experienced top level QB running. I know its not a one man show but i take the effort of all to win and the failure of one to loose.

[hambone]

IMO any veteran FA looking for one last SB run would have to think twice about signing in SD if Brees is gone, its just too big of an uncertainty expecting to go deep in the playoffs with an inexpirenced QB. If I were on that situation I would rather sign with PHI, IND, PIT, NE; solid teams that have a experienced top level QB running. I know its not a one man show but i take the effort of all to win and the failure of one to loose.

maybe, but if we were to get our line better, let LT run loose any QB can play behind that , and our defense is still growing, with a SS or FS that is good and can stay healthy who no's what we can do, plus this isnt a 1 man show game , its a team game a good QB just helps

[psychofan]

Stick Shields in the middle of any O-line it istantly gets better. That was true 5 years ago. Now he may still be a solid O-line player but his best years are behind him.