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ryry2104
03-05-2006, 10:48 AM
so reche caldwell is an UFA and has not been offered a deal, so do u guys think we try to fill the WR slot with a draft pick, if so which round? a free agent, if so who? or an undrafted free agent? or that drew haddad guy?
so reche caldwell is an UFA and has not been offered a deal, so do u guys think we try to fill the WR slot with a draft pick, if so which round? a free agent, if so who? or an undrafted free agent? or that drew haddad guy?
Forget Haddad. Malcom Floyd is our best bet if we don't draft anyone.
Dan40
03-05-2006, 10:58 AM
Haddad was an exclusive rights free agent, but he wasn't tendered an offer by AJ.
So he won't be back.
Haddad was an exclusive rights free agent, but he wasn't tendered an offer by AJ.
So he won't be back.
Who was he anyway? NFLE?
stevge88
03-05-2006, 11:00 AM
i say we draft one with the 5th or 6th pick?
ryry2104
03-05-2006, 11:02 AM
oo, ya malcom floyd is pretty good, he will be a pretty good special teams addition, and that one pass from PR he got in 04' was pretty nice
FanSince1979
03-05-2006, 11:13 AM
Sure the Chargers need to upgrade the O-line, but a true deep threat WR is their number one need. IMHO.
I hope they select WR Chad (http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Jackson---Best-Hands) Jackson (http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Jackson---Winner-of-Marines-Obstacle-Course)in the first round, but there are no reports of the Chargers interviewing him.
It was reported that the Chargers have talked to the following WR's:
WR/KR Sinorice Moss, Miami
WR Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
WR Greg Jennings, Western Michigan
WR Jonathan Orr, Wisconsin
WR Todd Watkins, BYU
WR Mike Haas, Oregon State
WR/KR Brandon Williams, Wisconsin
WR Marques Colston, HofstraSo it is clear that they are interested in drafting a WR. The question is what round. Personally, I expect them to draft a WR in the first or second round, but I'm biased. If they do draft a WR, the second obstacle will be getting Marty to play him.
Sinorce Moss! I wish he did bad at the combine so we could take him with our second pick, but I doubt he'll be avaialble then.
ryry2104
03-05-2006, 11:19 AM
Sure the Chargers need to upgrade the O-line, but a true deep threat WR is their number one need. IMHO.
I hope they select WR Chad (http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Jackson---Best-Hands) Jackson (http://media.putfile.com/Chad-Jackson---Winner-of-Marines-Obstacle-Course)in the first round, but there are no reports of the Chargers interviewing him.
It was reported that the Chargers have talked to the following WR's:
WR/KR Sinorice Moss, Miami
WR Maurice Stovall, Notre Dame
WR Greg Jennings, Western Michigan
WR Jonathan Orr, Wisconsin
WR Todd Watkins, BYU
WR Mike Haas, Oregon State
WR/KR Brandon Williams, Wisconsin
WR Marques Colston, HofstraSo it is clear that they are interested in drafting a WR. The question is what round. Personally, I expect them to draft a WR in the first or second round, but I'm biased. If they do draft a WR, the second obstacle will be getting Marty to play him.
of those guys marques colston,maurice stovall, sinorice moss, and brandon williams
i think they look too be best fit
psychofan
03-05-2006, 12:13 PM
A WR will be signed by the draft and then we probably will draft 1 or 2 in the 4-5 rounds.
jhasley
03-05-2006, 12:26 PM
todd watkins might be a sleeper pick from us..he is a local talent <yes he played with reggie bush at helix high>
ryry2104
03-05-2006, 12:36 PM
todd watkins might be a sleeper pick from us..he is a local talent <yes he played with reggie bush at helix high>
ya and they probly got rocked by :Beer: VALHALLA:Beer: jk
but 9-1-2 06 season
Boltz2175
03-05-2006, 03:15 PM
i think we do whatever it takes to get Nate Burleson from the Vikes for a 3rd round or whatever they want
osgoodfan68
03-05-2006, 03:26 PM
chargers have a problem they dont let osgood play vincent jackson sux and their best recievers are mccardell and parker osgood juss needs one chance
osgoodfan68
03-05-2006, 03:26 PM
we neede to pick up a reciver in the free agency
HeadTrip
03-05-2006, 03:52 PM
Oz has stones for hands and has difficulty getting open. There is a reason he doesn't get much playing time at WR and it's because he isn't very good (yet.)
How did you come to the conclusion that VJ sucks? He was drafted because he has loads of potential, not because he was going to be an immediate threat. The fact that he was unpolished and from a small school means it will take him longer to reach his potential, but when he does, WATCH OUT! VJ has all the tools to be the next TO without the destructive tendencies.
lightzout56
03-05-2006, 03:58 PM
The Chargers should fill the WR slot in the draft and in the second round. Preferably Moss, from "The U(Miami)," or Hagan from Arizona St.
Lightz Out!!!
TheIceCreamMan
03-05-2006, 06:22 PM
I'm thinkin for draft
Demetruis Williams kinda guy,
FA
or like a nate burelson kina guy in FA
Farmer808
03-05-2006, 07:56 PM
draft chad jackson or get brandon lloyd or kevin curtis from FA
bolts4ever21
03-05-2006, 10:27 PM
WATCH OUT! VJ has all the tools to be the next TO without the destructive tendencies.
Funny thing, TO wasn't like that until he broke out. So saying VJ doesn't have the tendencies.... you never know. Only can hope. But I think VJ is going to have his break out year in 06 with Rivers. Rivers to Jackson... TOUCHDOWN!
green_tree725
03-07-2006, 01:25 PM
Today on Foxsports.com they had the chargers taking Chad Jackson as the 19th overall pick. I dont think that is a very likely situation considering our lack of a cover corner in the secondary. What do you guys think?
BoltStrike85
03-07-2006, 02:18 PM
If we can I would go for Brandon Lloyd; i don't know what offer has been tendered by the 49ers so i don't know the compensation we have to give; but i'd be willing to give up a 3rd round to pick him up; i get the feeling that in an offense with more than one threat and with some consistent play from the QB and O-Line from his team he could make for a great reciever. But i'm also looking forward to seeing Vincent Jackson play this year; specially if Rivers is the starting QB; from what i've heard they seem to have a good chemistry already developed between them; and we can't forget that K-Mac only has a couple more years left.:Bolt:
baddass4444
03-07-2006, 02:38 PM
chargers have a problem they dont let osgood play vincent jackson sux and their best recievers are mccardell and parker osgood juss needs one chance
You are a complete dumb@$$...
Jackson is a very good WR, what do you know about him anyways? Have you seen him play? I live in Fort Collins, CO and saw VJ play alot over at Northern Colorado (greeley, colorado). This guy will be a stud #1 WR. bank on it
TheIceCreamMan
03-07-2006, 03:00 PM
i hope we get Nate Burelson
#1 Nate Burleson
#2 Vicent Jackson
#3 Eric Parker
#4/Flank Michael Robinson
hoopdreams
03-07-2006, 04:28 PM
so reche caldwell is an UFA and has not been offered a deal, so do u guys think we try to fill the WR slot with a draft pick, if so which round? a free agent, if so who? or an undrafted free agent? or that drew haddad guy?
I think Vincent Jackson might slide into the slot or even the second spot depending on how he performs. He is a huge reciever and will cause mismathces in the secondary. 6'4" and 235 pounds.
Don't forget he was injured a ton last season and he was also our second round draft pick.
FanSince1979
03-07-2006, 04:32 PM
I think Vincent Jackson might slide into the slot or even the second spot depending on how he performs. He is a huge reciever and will cause mismathces in the secondary. 6'4" and 235 pounds.That's what I thought would happen in 2005, but he didn't even play in the meaningless week 17 game. I wonder why Marty didn't want to play him.
Boltfan92153
03-07-2006, 04:37 PM
I know this is of topic, but does FA begin Wednsday or Thursday?
I thought marty would not play him because he did not want to get him injured due to his injury history, and he made the mistake with which player to worry about.
LTwith2200
03-07-2006, 04:41 PM
I want us to take another small school guy in the later rounds (5-7th).
If you look in my sig, you can see I also wouldn't mind another home town guy like Webb.
FanSince1979
03-07-2006, 04:44 PM
I know this is of topic, but does FA begin Wednsday or Thursday?
I thought marty would not play him because he did not want to get him injured due to his injury history, and he made the mistake with which player to worry about.That didn't stop him from playing LT, with a cracked rib, for most of the game.
FanSince1979
03-07-2006, 04:47 PM
I want us to take another small school guy in the later rounds (5-7th).
If you look in my sig, you can see I also wouldn't mind another home town guy like Webb.I haven't heard anything about Webb. He looks good on paper. 6-2/211/4.46. nfldraftscout.com has him going in the fifth round.
ryry2104
03-07-2006, 11:01 PM
how do i make or get one of those custom sigs???
IM DONE
03-07-2006, 11:22 PM
You are a complete dumb@$$...
Jackson is a very good WR, what do you know about him anyways? Have you seen him play? I live in Fort Collins, CO and saw VJ play alot over at Northern Colorado (greeley, colorado). This guy will be a stud #1 WR. bank on itWe have great WR's..floyd6'6'' Krause6'5'' Osgood6'5'' V Jack6'5''..All these guys can play guys. We have loads of talent i just hope they get thier chances this season..Thats what I'm looking forward too..
sundeval
03-07-2006, 11:53 PM
If we can I would go for Brandon Lloyd; i don't know what offer has been tendered by the 49ers so i don't know the compensation we have to give; but i'd be willing to give up a 3rd round to pick him up; i get the feeling that in an offense with more than one threat and with some consistent play from the QB and O-Line from his team he could make for a great reciever. But i'm also looking forward to seeing Vincent Jackson play this year; specially if Rivers is the starting QB; from what i've heard they seem to have a good chemistry already developed between them; and we can't forget that K-Mac only has a couple more years left.:Bolt:
Get over it already, Lloyd isnt going to be a Charger. He would not improve this team whatsoever, just add to the salary cap. As ive posted before, he is no better than what we already have on the roster. Im sure glad the only decisions youre involved with are what sauce to put on your wings and what beer to drink while you cheer for them on Sundays.
Boltz2175
03-08-2006, 09:18 AM
We could look into giving a 3rd round compensation pick for WR Nate Burleson from the Vikes.....? Or how about letting V-Jack get some experience and put him in the slot?
Lightiningsmack
03-08-2006, 11:58 AM
Look for AJ to get Koren Robinson for a cheap price to pair up with his college teammate philip Rivers.
iodude122
03-08-2006, 12:44 PM
I would like to see Koren Robinson picked up if Rivers is the QB. I think he is a good solid receiver that might do well in our system.
JoeMcRugby
07-06-2006, 05:09 PM
NFL Network just reported that Koren Robinson has just voluntarily checked himself into a substance abuse rehabilitation program.
:(
loweezy
07-06-2006, 09:37 PM
NFL Network just reported that Koren Robinson has just voluntarily checked himself into a substance abuse rehabilitation program.
:(
doesn't look as bad as it sounds joe...
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Vikings | More about K. Robinson
Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:18:52 -0700
Jeff Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) WR Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl)'s agent, Alvin Keels, confirmed Thursday, July 6, that the receiver has re-entered an alcohol rehab facility. Keels made it clear that Robinson's decision was voluntary and he has not violated the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl)'s substance abuse policy. "Is Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) in rehab or at a rehab facility? Yes," said Keels, responding to a report that first broke on profootballtalk.com. "Was Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) drinking? No. Was Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) forced by the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) or the Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) to go? No. Most recovering alcoholics seek treatment through the years. He's just being more proactive than in the past." Keels made it clear that Robinson can leave the facility at any time and expressed disappointment that word had leaked out about his client's private decision. A Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) spokesman said the team would have no comment on the subject. Robinson earlier in the day he denied the story when reached by FOX9. "Everybody has been calling me about this," he said. "That's false. I'm trying to get in contact with my agent. I don't know what's going on."
JoeMcRugby
07-06-2006, 10:02 PM
doesn't look as bad as it sounds joe...
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
Vikings | More about K. Robinson
Thu, 6 Jul 2006 20:18:52 -0700
Jeff Zulgad, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) WR Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl)'s agent, Alvin Keels, confirmed Thursday, July 6, that the receiver has re-entered an alcohol rehab facility. Keels made it clear that Robinson's decision was voluntary and he has not violated the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl)'s substance abuse policy. "Is Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) in rehab or at a rehab facility? Yes," said Keels, responding to a report that first broke on profootballtalk.com. "Was Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) drinking? No. Was Koren Robinson (http://www.kffl.com/player/1726/nfl) forced by the NFL (http://www.kffl.com/team/77/nfl) or the Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) to go? No. Most recovering alcoholics seek treatment through the years. He's just being more proactive than in the past." Keels made it clear that Robinson can leave the facility at any time and expressed disappointment that word had leaked out about his client's private decision. A Vikings (http://www.kffl.com/team/23/nfl) spokesman said the team would have no comment on the subject. Robinson earlier in the day he denied the story when reached by FOX9. "Everybody has been calling me about this," he said. "That's false. I'm trying to get in contact with my agent. I don't know what's going on."
It gives me the same heebie-jeebies that I kept getting when Fonoti returned to the "weight-loss" facility.
I truly do hope that Koren has permanently turned things around. (No raised beer glasses here). :Football:
Tomlinson21
07-07-2006, 08:21 AM
I think Gates is going to be used as a WR ALOT this year...but please understand the madness....
With Manu now in the fold who is a better blocking TE than Gates and Peele, I think it would only sound natural to put AG in more WR sets this year. This in effect would improve our WR corp as well as our OL - tremendously.
I think I see AJ's logic...why get a WR when you already have a solid WR Corps as it is, the best catching RB in the league and the best TE in the league?
Tear it up in 06 baby!
loweezy
07-07-2006, 11:03 AM
It gives me the same heebie-jeebies that I kept getting when Fonoti returned to the "weight-loss" facility.
I truly do hope that Koren has permanently turned things around. (No raised beer glasses here). :Football:
i mean, you have to think that he's at least eye-ing the liquor... =x so yeah, you have to just think it's mental at this point...
LABoltsFan
07-10-2006, 12:02 AM
i am not sure that the offense (save a o-line backup or two) needs any more work.
The new TE sets will assist with almost every facet of the game.
The double RB sets will provide a creative alternative.
2 young stud WR's (VJ & Woods) will open a lot of people's eyes.
you ahve to think that cam cameroon is loving his job at the moment.
the only thing that the chargers offense needs is time to "gel" and really get the plays down and possibly better field position (hint to Special teams and defense).
Satcong_21
07-10-2006, 05:06 PM
You are a complete dumb@$$...
Jackson is a very good WR, what do you know about him anyways? Have you seen him play? I live in Fort Collins, CO and saw VJ play alot over at Northern Colorado (greeley, colorado). This guy will be a stud #1 WR. bank on it
Well...I do know one thing, VJ played football in college among boys, really...Trying playing in the PAC-10 or something...Or better yet, he is now playing against ALL-STAR college defensive backs...So we'll see if he is a stud#1 WR to bank on...Hope he does, though!
Hey I am no fan of Kassim Osgood either but I just hate reading some fanboy's reaction about VJ.
Let's trying to stay healthy first, shall we, VJ? It would do us no good on the field if you keep on rehabbin'...:nono:
FoutstoJJ
07-10-2006, 06:17 PM
Yep...
No one knows what VJ can and can't do right now. But if he stays "healthy" you have to like his chances of having a legitimate impact, given his size, speed, and raw athletic abilities.
As for this position in general, it's funny because everyone seems to overlook (NFL Beat Writers/and So-Called Experts) Eric Parker each and every year, and each and every year all this guy does is catch the football.
As for what happened this off-season (and much of what you read would lead you to believe nothing), Rashaun Woods is what happened, and this guy may have more talent than VJ, Eric Parker, or Keenan, but he has been plagued by unlucky injuries (think Carlos Polk), and he played for a team with no offensive line and no legitimate qb for two years....thus he is still a baby in this league.
My prediction is that we as fans will be more surprised by what we see from him --than from any of the other players on this list...namely because most don't know much about him, haven't seen him play, know nothing about his past as a collegiate player,and may of forgotten that this trade was even made.
To me this position is actually stronger than it's been in years for this team, and we may not have a Terrel Owens, a Marvin Harrison, or a Charles Johnson, but what we do have are a couple of consistent NFL veterans and two young players that may end up blowing all of our minds in the next two years.
ryry2104
07-10-2006, 06:58 PM
i am not sure that the offense (save a o-line backup or two) needs any more work.
The new TE sets will assist with almost every facet of the game.
The double RB sets will provide a creative alternative.
2 young stud WR's (VJ & Woods) will open a lot of people's eyes.
you ahve to think that cam cameroon is loving his job at the moment.
the only thing that the chargers offense needs is time to "gel" and really get the plays down and possibly better field position (hint to Special teams and defense).
i could not agree more i think those guys along with eric parker could be 1-2-3 for years to come
paul.almryde
07-13-2006, 10:09 AM
:Helmet: The Chargers need a healthy O-line to do anything this year!:Bolt: Go Chargers
With reeche caldwell gone i think that Johnnie Morton would be a good fit in san diego because everybody knows he has what it takes to be a good NFL player, he didn't have the best numbers last year but he has had pretty good seassons prior to last seasson such as in 2001 when he set a career high in receiving yards with 1154. I know that that he's not the best receiver in the league but I think he would be a good fit for the chargers
JoeMcRugby
07-15-2006, 09:45 PM
WRs who will be cut on the current Chargers squad are better than over-the-hill 34-year-old Johnny Morton at this late stage of his career.
BTW The 49ers signed him in June.
darrenat0r
07-20-2006, 01:14 PM
If the Chargers are in a position to grab a great receiver in the first round of next year's draft, I'd be all for it..
drangus
08-10-2006, 09:47 PM
I was really impressed with the colts-rams game today--some of those WRs are not going to make those teams because
of all the depth that those two teams have at WR--some of those kids looked great
hXcB0ltfan85
08-20-2006, 10:09 AM
yea the rams truly have a great receiving group altho i must say that isaac bruce is getting old and i wouldnt be surprised if this is his last season. indianapolis is also great with marvelous marvin and reggie wayne.
SDynasty
08-20-2006, 01:03 PM
If the Chargers are in a position to grab a great receiver in the first round of next year's draft, I'd be all for it..
Im afraid Jackson is a going to a member of the
All Charmin Team :(
LT_Raiderkiller
09-16-2006, 12:34 AM
Any Free agent Recivers Next Year?
Caeser Angelo
10-21-2006, 02:48 PM
All we need is RANDY MOSS, then we will have a good widereciever :) He has like 2 more years on him and thats like 2 superbowls.
HotCorner06
10-21-2006, 03:50 PM
All we need is RANDY MOSS, then we will have a good widereciever :) He has like 2 more years on him and thats like 2 superbowls.
Moss would tear this team apart. No Moss... Ever.
Merfinator
10-21-2006, 05:15 PM
All we need is RANDY MOSS, then we will have a good widereciever :) He has like 2 more years on him and thats like 2 superbowls.
LOL. Good one. Moss is a whiner and a cancer. Sure he's a good WR, but we are 100x better without him.
crazyman33
10-22-2006, 01:31 AM
i don't think he'd be that much of a cancer. He'd have an excellent QB for the first time ina long time.
FanSince1979
10-22-2006, 08:32 AM
i don't think he'd be that much of a cancer. He'd have an excellent QB for the first time ina long time.The dude, admittedly, only plays when he wants to play. I only want a players who always have the switch on; not somebody who turns it on and off during the game.
velocity760
11-21-2006, 01:50 PM
For 2007 NFL Draft day chargers need to go for Manningham from Michigan. Or Dwayne Jarrete from USC. Chargers could really add some speed in their passing game.
Thunderstruck21
11-21-2006, 06:01 PM
i say we get a safety in the 1st round, right now our safeties are a bigger risk thatn our recievers.
Aarostotle
11-22-2006, 12:52 AM
i dont understand why we need another reciever we a have an awsome recieving corp in floyd, parker, jackson, and mcardell!
i dont understand why we need another reciever we a have an awsome recieving corp in floyd, parker, jackson, and mcardell!
After watching the game yesterday were our receivers could not get open I say we do need to improve our recievers.
Lucid
11-27-2006, 11:00 AM
I agree, we need a smaller, faster, more agile reciever to confuse people. Someone with Sproles type moves who can swing out and hopefully get lined up with a LB or corner back making one of our taller faster recievers get lined up against a LB. We need to create mismatches. I think our corps are great for the red zone due to their size, but we need to mix things up.
chargershark
11-27-2006, 12:35 PM
I don't think we need to focus too much on bringing in a "stud" receiver. Yes, we'll need someone to replace K-Mac soon, but that player doesn't need to be a super-star that eats up our cap space.
I'd like to see us run a lot more sets with LT lined up in the slot & Turner in the backfield. We could also put Sproles in the slot with Turner or LT in the backfield. I think this approach gives us an overwhelming passing attack, while also providing excellent depth at RB.
The key to the whole thing is the contract Turner would demand. Would the cap space he'd take up be better spent on him or on another player(s)??? I doubt we'd be able to find a receiver that would make our offense as scary as the scenario I descibed above if signing him means losing Turner.
Lord Revan
11-27-2006, 12:39 PM
I don't think we need to focus too much on bringing in a "stud" receiver. Yes, we'll need someone to replace K-Mac soon, but that player doesn't need to be a super-star that eats up our cap space.
I'd like to see us run a lot more sets with LT lined up in the slot & Turner in the backfield. We could also put Sproles in the slot with Turner or LT in the backfield. I think this approach gives us an overwhelming passing attack, while also providing excellent depth at RB.
The key to the whole thing is the contract Turner would demand. Would the cap space he'd take up be better spent on him or on another player(s)??? I doubt we'd be able to find a receiver that would make our offense as scary as the scenario I descibed above if signing him means losing Turner.
Turner is gone, and hopefully we can get a #1 for him.
I think we do need a stud WR. When you look at our division, there are a lot of quality pass defenders. Bailey, Sutain, Law, both Raider CBs, Lynch, ect are in the AFC west, and we need to keep up. Not to mention what a stud WR would do for our running game by taking a safety out of the box. Just imagine LT never seeing another 8 or 9 man front as long as he played for us... Sweet yes?
chargershark
11-27-2006, 12:57 PM
Yes, LT never facing an 8 or 9 man front again would be sweet!!! But I don't know who we'd add as a WR that could make that happen. In fact, I don't know who we'd bring in (WR) that could have as much of a positive impact on our team as signing Turner to a long-term deal would. Letting another team sign Turner & getting their #1 pick is a big risk (letting a known quantity go for an unknown).
I agree that AJ won't sign Turner to a long-term deal, because he doesn't want to tie up that much money in one player (knowing he's got others waiting, such as Rivers, Merriman, Castillo, etc). BUT, unlike many others, I do believe that we COULD sign Turner to a long-term deal & that it would be our best option.
Since that probably won't happen though, WHO (WR) would you like to see the Chargers get???
Lord Revan
11-27-2006, 02:58 PM
Yes, LT never facing an 8 or 9 man front again would be sweet!!! But I don't know who we'd add as a WR that could make that happen. In fact, I don't know who we'd bring in (WR) that could have as much of a positive impact on our team as signing Turner to a long-term deal would. Letting another team sign Turner & getting their #1 pick is a big risk (letting a known quantity go for an unknown).
I agree that AJ won't sign Turner to a long-term deal, because he doesn't want to tie up that much money in one player (knowing he's got others waiting, such as Rivers, Merriman, Castillo, etc). BUT, unlike many others, I do believe that we COULD sign Turner to a long-term deal & that it would be our best option.
Since that probably won't happen though, WHO (WR) would you like to see the Chargers get???
In all honesty, Turner doesn't have that much value to the Chargers. I know a lot of people think he could start on quite a few teams (me included) but that will never change the fact that on our team, he is nothing more than a kick returner and a backup RB, and he should be valued as such by us. I don't buy the "it's a big risk because a first round pick is an unknown" theory. Our scouts are steller evaluators of talent, and AJ doesn't misfire very often in his selections. Even if he does pick a dud, what have we given up? A guy who sees 5 plays a game. It's a little bit like the Brees/Rivers situation in as much as we won't pay starters money to 2 guys who play the same position when only one will (usually) even be on the field.
As for which WR we should get, I really have no idea. I don't know exactly who is going to be available in free agency and I don't follow college ball. I hear Ted Ginn would fit in nicely here, but that's just gossip really. I will say this though... The guy we get doesn't have to be a superstar, he just has to be a quality #1 that will make teams pay for not respecting him deep down the field. I'm thinking someone like Terry Glenn would be able to do that for us (not that he is available, I'm just using his overall talent and type of game as a comparison.)
benji929
11-27-2006, 03:21 PM
The problem with "stud" WRs is that they are very hard to find in the open market. Drew Bennett is the best WR available this offseason (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagentsWR.html). Burress is the last big name WR that hit free agency, as far as I can remember, and he got benched for a while against the Titans. Some big trades have gone down involving "stud" WR, but they've all involved guys with emotional or physical baggage (Moss, TO, Walker).
From that, it seems like the best chance to find a great WR is through the draft. The problem with that is that the majority of wide receivers struggle to make major contributions in their first season. There exceptions, of course, but guys like Colston and Moss are very rare finds. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that rather than use a high pick on a WR this year, I'd rather wait another season and see whether the two promising young WRs already on the team (VJ, Floyd) can develop into number 1 type receivers.
Lord Revan
11-27-2006, 03:31 PM
The problem with "stud" WRs is that they are very hard to find in the open market. Drew Bennett is the best WR available this offseason (http://www.footballsfuture.com/2007/nfl/freeagentsWR.html). Burress is the last big name WR that hit free agency, as far as I can remember, and he got benched for a while against the Titans. Some big trades have gone down involving "stud" WR, but they've all involved guys with emotional or physical baggage (Moss, TO, Walker).
From that, it seems like the best chance to find a great WR is through the draft. The problem with that is that the majority of wide receivers struggle to make major contributions in their first season. There exceptions, of course, but guys like Colston and Moss are very rare finds. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that rather than use a high pick on a WR this year, I'd rather wait another season and see whether the two promising young WRs already on the team (VJ, Floyd) can develop into number 1 type receivers.
I don't expect much out of Floyd, but VJ has all the tools to be a very good WR. Next year (his 3rd) should be a very good year for him if he stays healthy.
Tomlinson21
11-27-2006, 06:38 PM
i dont understand why we need another reciever we a have an awsome recieving corp in floyd, parker, jackson, and mcardell!
You gotta start thinking the future when Kmac is on his way out.
CanadianBoltFan
11-27-2006, 10:44 PM
i dont understand why we need another reciever we a have an awsome recieving corp in floyd, parker, jackson, and mcardell!
I think saying we have an awesome receiving core is overly optimistic or a bit too homerish.
We have a solid group, in many NFL circles they are considered average. Eric Parker is a solid, possesion type receiver but I dont see him as a true #1. I think he makes a great #3. McCardell is a crafty vet and leader but is no longer a #1 and nearing the end of his career.
Floyd and more so Jackson have potential and make nice large red zone targets but they are far from proven commodities. I am not saying they wont grow into their roles but I am convinced they will either.
I hope AJ does what he always does, and that is stockpile talent and depth at all positions. That has saved our defense this year.This could be a great crop of WRS coming in the draft this year if all the underagers come out. I know many on here think the Chargers need a safety in round 1 and I am ok with that. I just hope within the top couple of rounds AJ drafts a WR with the ability to stretch the field. Our group does lack a game breaker and a WR who can separate. That was very evident yesterday.
If we trade Turner for a 2nd and get a 3rd for Brees I will be very disappointed if we ignore this WR draft class.
IGOR RULES
12-19-2006, 10:51 AM
Philips Rivers was playing with Jerricho Cotchery during his NC State Wolfpack time. The receiver is putting decent numbers while playing with the NY Jets.
I am sure that the chemistry between the two is still intact.
Jerricho Cotchery is ending his third year in the NFL ... Micheal Turner wants badly a starting job. Is a trade advisable?
Satcong_21
12-19-2006, 12:51 PM
Philips Rivers was playing with Jerricho Cotchery during his NC State Wolfpack time. The receiver is putting decent numbers while playing with the NY Jets.
I am sure that the chemistry between the two is still intact.
Jerricho Cotchery is ending his third year in the NFL ... Micheal Turner wants badly a starting job. Is a trade advisable?
You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend!
I was thinking about Jerricho too since he was PR's receiver at NC State. And Jerricho is now as we all see, a proven NFL receiver!
The Jets has no running game and yet Jerricho is putting respectable number! However I would like to see more in return if we use MT as a trade bait! Like Jerricho + 3rd pick for MT?
I see the only thing we need on offense is a solid tough young rout runner receiver to replace Kmac.
Waylon138
12-19-2006, 12:52 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend!
I was thinking about Jerricho too since he was PR's receiver at NC State. And Jerricho is now as we all see, a proven NFL receiver!
The Jets has no running game and yet Jerricho is putting respectable number! However I would like to see more in return if we use MT as a trade bait! Like Jerricho + 3rd pick for MT?
I see the only thing we need on offense is a solid tough young rout runner receiver to replace Kmac.
That would be a sweet deal!!!
Satcong_21
12-19-2006, 12:57 PM
i dont understand why we need another reciever we a have an awsome recieving corp in floyd, parker, jackson, and mcardell!
I appreciate your loyalty to our receivers but seriously, none of them can be a number one receiver. And we need one for Cam to have a better unpredictable offensive scheme...I know there is only one ball to share...But we are now THE TEAM to beat and it does not hurt to have more weapons in distant future...
IGOR RULES
12-19-2006, 01:09 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth, my friend!
I was thinking about Jerricho too since he was PR's receiver at NC State. And Jerricho is now as we all see, a proven NFL receiver!
The Jets has no running game and yet Jerricho is putting respectable number! However I would like to see more in return if we use MT as a trade bait! Like Jerricho + 3rd pick for MT?
I see the only thing we need on offense is a solid tough young rout runner receiver to replace Kmac.
I was advising a trade in this sense and I did not invoke a one on one trade. Of course the scenario Jerricho + first day pick for MT would be nice. I am sure that AJ Smith is the better negotiator and deal maker than we humble message board members.
I also think that from a character point of view Jerricho Cotchery would make a good team player.
And of course ... Teresa would be really happy!
Bubba86
12-19-2006, 06:28 PM
I appreciate your loyalty to our receivers but seriously, none of them can be a number one receiver. And we need one for Cam to have a better unpredictable offensive scheme...I know there is only one ball to share...But we are now THE TEAM to beat and it does not hurt to have more weapons in distant future...
if you want a #1 receiver you dont want cotchery. hes no more of a #1 than any of the guys we have.
Chargers_Saints
12-29-2006, 11:08 AM
The least our front office could do is risk a low pick on a wide receiver, i mean the low picks of last year didn't even make the team, and New Orleans low pick Marques Colston, i mean, they struck gold on him, so even if we need other positions more, if our GM A.J. doesn't draft a recveiver, i don't think anyone will be happy, people wanted to him to draft a receiver last year, and what did we get?
not a receiver
SuperBowlBolts
12-29-2006, 01:12 PM
The least our front office could do is risk a low pick on a wide receiver, i mean the low picks of last year didn't even make the team, and New Orleans low pick Marques Colston, i mean, they struck gold on him, so even if we need other positions more, if our GM A.J. doesn't draft a recveiver, i don't think anyone will be happy, people wanted to him to draft a receiver last year, and what did we get?
not a receiver
maybe because we have two guys who show they can be #1 guys in VJ and Floyd sadly Floyd is on IR. But still they showed they can be our #1s.
Chargers_Saints
12-30-2006, 04:29 PM
Not likely, Floyd wasn't on the roster last year and it was anyones guess how well Jackson would do, a wide receiver would have been nice in the draft last year.
ChargersForLife
12-30-2006, 11:34 PM
I think we should sign another veteran like Keenan Mcardell. Because that person could teach the young guys and be a great addition for us.
LVSupercharged
01-02-2007, 11:03 PM
AJ can find talent in the draft, even with later picks. The way I see it, VJack could be a solid #1- with the same style as a Hines Ward.
Maxchargers
01-04-2007, 07:52 AM
AJ is great at getting good players in the draft, I just hope we get a WR that can stretch the field, don't care where in the draft we get him
Satcong_21
01-04-2007, 03:50 PM
Don't know about you guys, but I hate to draft a wide receiver as first pick unless you have a crystal ball that can let you view the future...
We have seen alot of 1st round draft pick receiver lately that has not live up to their high pick's expectation...But then again, at 32nd pick overall, I wouldn't call it too high of a pick...
If we can swing a trade using our future draft picks (since they are gonna be lower rounds anyway, ;)) for a proven NFL receiver would be better...
Satcong_21
01-04-2007, 03:55 PM
if you want a #1 receiver you dont want cotchery. hes no more of a #1 than any of the guys we have.
One of the things about Jerricho is the fact he was a Wolfpack and played with PR. And he would be our number one receiver since we don't have Laverenues Coles in our team. Maybe with him in our team, VJ will thrive more and be our number 1? Just remember how Drew Brees became a pro bowler...And AJ loves bringing competition to make the team "3 deeps"
boltpride515
01-04-2007, 03:59 PM
I think we go receiver in the second round. Steve Smith from USC is clutch, and Steven Breaston is an explosive receiver with descent size.Either of the two would fit great in our system next to Vincent Jackson next year. 1st round we go offensive tackle to replace dielman who becomes a free agent at the end of the year
Satcong_21
01-04-2007, 04:09 PM
How about a strong safety? Kiel is real good...For a backup and special teamer....
Will there be another Troy Palomalu in this coming draft??? I know teams will be looking for running back/quarterback/dlines/linebackers more than strong safety this year so we may steal one somewhere...
boltpride515
01-04-2007, 04:19 PM
Sabby Piscitelli out of Oregon State would be a great fit in our defense. He's huge! 6-3 225! with 4.5 speed. I had a chance to watch him twice this year but he reminds me a lot of John Lynch
21_SDBolts
01-08-2007, 01:06 AM
What's wrong with Vincent Jackson, Malcolm Floyd, let's say we draft Johnnie Lee Higgins/Paul Williams, and Eric Parker as a receiving core? Anyone have any info on Kassim Osgood? I've heard he's burner?
patsman
01-09-2007, 07:57 AM
good luck youll
jadeyknoxville
01-10-2007, 05:50 AM
What's wrong with Vincent Jackson, Malcolm Floyd, let's say we draft Johnnie Lee Higgins/Paul Williams, and Eric Parker as a receiving core? Anyone have any info on Kassim Osgood? I've heard he's burner?
i agree. i like the fact that we have two 6'5" receivers in jackson and floyd that are more than capable of big plays. they make catching the ball over DB just too easy and sad for opponents. as far as osgood, i heard from here that he drops a lot of passes, that's why he's on special teams, but other than that, i think the mods know more about it.:Beer:
turbo
01-14-2007, 06:47 PM
What's wrong with Vincent Jackson, Malcolm Floyd, let's say we draft Johnnie Lee Higgins/Paul Williams, and Eric Parker as a receiving core? Anyone have any info on Kassim Osgood? I've heard he's burner?
Oh hell no :LightsOut: really need to get a no.1 WR
L.T. - 21
01-14-2007, 06:49 PM
man do the chargers really need one
CanadianBoltFan
01-14-2007, 06:58 PM
I have been posting all year that our WRs are inadequate and that we need to draft a legitimate #1 WR. Keenan is done, Parker is not a starter, VJ can be one starter.
I have read too mnay post that have said our WRs are good and we dont need to address that.
Meachem or Rice please!
CromartUserPick
01-14-2007, 06:59 PM
After seeing Parker drop two easy ones today, we definitely need a #1 receiver. I'm thinking Meachem is best for us because although he might not have as much potential as some other guys that might be availabe, we're gonna need a guy to come in right away and he is the most polished.
CromartUserPick
01-14-2007, 07:01 PM
Sabby Piscitelli out of Oregon State would be a great fit in our defense. He's huge! 6-3 225! with 4.5 speed. I had a chance to watch him twice this year but he reminds me a lot of John Lynch
I've heard good things and bad things about him. Aparrently he has no cover skills which is not what we need. That's what we need to fix.
turbo
01-14-2007, 07:02 PM
Drew Bennett anyone?
L.T. - 21
01-14-2007, 07:20 PM
i mean come on only a team coached by marty would find a way to loose this game
Remember13and1?
01-14-2007, 08:20 PM
Randy MOSSSSSSSSSSS anyone?
turbo
01-14-2007, 08:30 PM
Randy MOSSSSSSSSSSS anyone?
Yes please :Beer: , but prob wont happen
Chargeroo
01-14-2007, 08:31 PM
Randy MOSSSSSSSSSSS anyone?How much good has he done the raiders??
Remember13and1?
01-14-2007, 08:33 PM
Uh kind of because their team sucks, why would you play for a team with no oline and that cant get the ball passed after 10 seconds because their QB is on the floor.
Maybe you never considered his team sucks.
KingGL
01-14-2007, 11:29 PM
I'll take :
Drew Bennett, UFA, Tennessee Titans
Bennett might not be considered a special wide receiver in NFL circles, but the UCLA product has great size and good hands as a second receiving option. An uncanny connection with quarterback Billy Volek in 2004 helped Bennett to 1,247 receiving yards and 11 touchdowns. With Vince Young being named the starter, production was up and down for Bennett, but he managed to reach triple-digit receiving yards in three different games, and totaled 737 yards with three scores. The Titans are closer to competing than previously though, it appears, but Bennett may look for work in a system focused more on the pass and with a chance to seriously compete sooner. Several teams could use Bennett to compliment a smaller and faster receiver, and if used properly, Bennett can put up strong numbers once again.
SJSUPhil
01-15-2007, 01:13 AM
McCardell has probably played his last season, at least in San Diego. Anyone but T.O. is fine by me!
Maxchargers
01-15-2007, 08:37 AM
We just need a wr who don't drop passes in important games. Parker isn't good enough to be a nr 2 wr.
I'll take Randy Moss, but not gonna happen. SO go draft and get a good wr, it should be possible.
Or we could sign a FA, onle Drew Bennett and D.J. Hackett.
I love Hackett, he's got the speed and can catch the balls.
BoltFan31
01-15-2007, 08:52 AM
We need playmakers on the outside to take some pressure off LT and Gates
SJSUPhil
01-15-2007, 08:57 AM
:14: I'm old school Chargers. Fouts to Jefferson will always be the most exciting combination in San Diego history!:Bolt:
Lucid
01-15-2007, 10:12 AM
:14: I'm old school Chargers. Fouts to Jefferson will always be the most exciting combination in San Diego history!:Bolt:
I hear ya... but even JJ had Winslow to open things up (see pic)
ChrisVillain
01-15-2007, 10:44 AM
Drew Bennet Wud be a Great Pick Up For Us...he has very good good hands...Randy Moss Phillip Rivers Will Make Him Happy Nad i guarntee that if that was moss instead of Jackson on that Toss Moss Wud have dragged that Foot
Chargeroo
01-15-2007, 10:46 AM
Uh kind of because their team sucks, why would you play for a team with no oline and that cant get the ball passed after 10 seconds because their QB is on the floor.
Maybe you never considered his team sucks.Maybe you don't remember that he played on some pretty good teams in Minn. but took plays off and even was known to walk off the field before the end of the game. He just doesn't have much heart. Great ability and not enough heart = sporadic player. I don't think it's too much to hope for to find a guy that's a good player and also plays his guts out.
FanSince1979
01-15-2007, 10:49 AM
Somebody compared Eric Parker to Charlie Joiner. I wonderoo if that person has changed his opinion? ;)
Thunderstruck21
01-15-2007, 09:41 PM
that person should be beaten over the head, charlie joiner his a hall of famer
SkubaSteve
01-15-2007, 09:55 PM
I'd love randy moss the player, but not with the baggage, he just doesn't seem like the classy type of San Diego Chargers, great reciever, i just don't see it happening
loweezy
01-16-2007, 12:55 AM
I'd love randy moss the player, but not with the baggage, he just doesn't seem like the classy type of San Diego Chargers, great reciever, i just don't see it happening
He also takes plays off. He is the definition of premadonna. What an immature crybaby. Also it doesn't help your cause when you tell the entire world that football isn't a priority to you. Basically you're saying you're doing something for a living but it means nothing to you.
KingGL
01-16-2007, 01:19 AM
Somebody claimed that Eric Parker is as good as Charlie Joiner was in his prime. I wonderoo if that person has changed his opinion? ;)
Yikes no way in HELL Parker is even close to Charlie Joiner I mean not even close.....
jhasley
01-16-2007, 01:56 AM
eric parker played like he was being paid off by some people
also i hate his stupid cowboy collar< good thing i didnt buy those tickets next to the chargers entrance, i would have wanted to give parker the SWINGING NECK BREAKER
Good Days Last2
01-16-2007, 03:51 AM
AJ would NEVER allow Moss to don a Charger Uni. EVER.
FanSince1979
01-16-2007, 09:37 AM
Yikes no way in HELL Parker is even close to Charlie Joiner I mean not even close.....eric parker played like he was being paid off by some people
also i hate his stupid cowboy collar< good thing i didnt buy those tickets next to the chargers entrance, i would have wanted to give parker the SWINGING NECK BREAKERthat person should be beaten over the head, charlie joiner his a hall of famerRetraction: I went back and looked at the post. He didn't claim that Parker was as good as Joiner in his prime. I, however, was stunned that somebody would compare one of our Chargers Hall of Fame WR's to Eric Parker: "Our Joiner is Parker, a similar build and great "hands" type of guy. In fact, Parker's a bit faster than Charlie was, though not yet the route runner Charlie was. (http://forums.chargers.com/showpost.php?p=1149073&postcount=129)"
Mr. Heisman
01-16-2007, 10:37 AM
mr. 83 from Notre dame! Jeff that's our big wr!!!
Se7eN
01-16-2007, 11:15 AM
mr. 83 from Notre dame! Jeff that's our big wr!!!Jeff Samardzija is an average WR at best in the NFL, sure he has good hands but he has mediocre speed. If Dwayne Jarrett is still on the board by the 28th pick, the Chargers had better take him. As of right now Dwayne Jarrett is ranked lower on the board then Jeff Samardzija.
The other thing about Jeff is that he is projected to go high in the MLB Draft as well (Second round), so I see a conflict of football and baseball, as a GM I would be looking at someone devoted to football 365 days out of a year.
Mr. Heisman
01-18-2007, 10:41 AM
Jeff Samardzija is an average WR at best in the NFL, sure he has good hands but he has mediocre speed. If Dwayne Jarrett is still on the board by the 28th pick, the Chargers had better take him. As of right now Dwayne Jarrett is ranked lower on the board then Jeff Samardzija.
The other thing about Jeff is that he is projected to go high in the MLB Draft as well (Second round), so I see a conflict of football and baseball, as a GM I would be looking at someone devoted to football 365 days out of a year.
uhhh Jeff Samardzija is already been draft in MLB, he's on the Chicago Cubs minor league, he was draft last year! He might be brought off the minor league team but not anytime soon
jamesbond
01-20-2007, 01:44 AM
if our GM A.J. doesn't draft a recveiver, i don't think anyone will be happy, people wanted to him to draft a receiver last year, and what did we get?
not a receiver
We got Kurt Smith, kicker, in round 6.
If that pick had been Colston, we'd be corraling the Colts on Sunday.
filluprivers
01-20-2007, 08:56 PM
I agree with picking up drew bennett, hes a solid receiver. Drafting a wide receiver is better in the later rounds since most take a while to develop regardless of round(see vincent jackson). I would feel comfortable with with Bennett, Jackson, and parker as our core receivers, our wrs had a tough playoff game and I believe they will improve. I think we need a safety to replace kiel, sometimes I forget hes playing
benji929
01-21-2007, 02:53 PM
We got Kurt Smith, kicker, in round 6.
If that pick had been Colston, we'd be corraling the Colts on Sunday.
31 other teams are kicking themselves for not getting Colston. You can't reasonably use him to prove any kind of a point.
Satcong_21
01-30-2007, 04:12 PM
Jeff Samardzija is an average WR at best in the NFL, sure he has good hands but he has mediocre speed. If Dwayne Jarrett is still on the board by the 28th pick, the Chargers had better take him. As of right now Dwayne Jarrett is ranked lower on the board then Jeff Samardzija.
The other thing about Jeff is that he is projected to go high in the MLB Draft as well (Second round), so I see a conflict of football and baseball, as a GM I would be looking at someone devoted to football 365 days out of a year.
Somehow I got the feeling the Detroit Lions will pick Jarrett with Mad Millen as the GM...Again...
Merrimanjersey
02-01-2007, 01:57 AM
A few reactions to this thread:
Randy Moss is 99.9% not going to happen. So you're saying theres a chance? No way AJ is going to get a problem guy like that, he wants character guys.
Drew Bennitt I would be fine with. Seems like the Titans are in good cap position plus he is their best receiver, I really don't see them letting him go. Plus he is probably the best receiver in the free agent market, so he would probably not be a good bargain like AJ likes to get.
DJ Hackett, I don't know much about him, he wasn't a premiere receiver for the Seahawks, but if he is a fast guy with skills, I could see AJ going after him if he can get him on the cheap like AJ likes to do.
Calvin Johnson. Oh man, I wish. Not even worth wishing for.
Jarrett. Ok with me, but probably unrealistic as well.
Tedd Ginn, I love that pick. Need a speed/explosive guy to compliment our other receivers. Plus have you seen him on kickoff/punts returns? The guys is ridiculous, he has that knack, he is crazy good on special teams which also fills that need for us. Probably have to trade up to get him, it might take 2 number 1 picks to get him (one from the Jets for Turner), but I think it would be worth it.
Bowe/Rice/Meachum or anyone else. I don't know much about anyone else, but if AJ sees something in one of them then I would be down for it. AJ picked McNeill in the 2nd round when I wanted Eric Winston and that worked out fantastically. ESPN even said that McNeill should have been the #1 pick in the draft.
But AJ did pick VJ which hasn't been a bust, but hasn't been a fantastic pick either. The jury is still out on him, I hope he works out and doesn't get injured as much as he has. Floyd to me was another fantastic pickup, and we got him as an undrafted free agent. So AJ picking up WR's in the draft has been a mixed bag, we still need that home run hitter/standout WR. I think Ginn could be that guy, or at least a great compliment to Gates/VJ/Floyd/McCardell and hopefully keep teams honest from stacking the line against LT.
My 2 cents, or rather, 99 cents. You could buy a Jumbo Jack with this post.
gazork
02-01-2007, 08:13 AM
I think our biggest need at WR is finding a guy who knows how to run routes, where to be when, and who can catch the ball. That to me, implies a Vet but it sounds as though there is no one that AJ wants to go after in the free agent market. If I were going to draft a WR, I would be looking at running routes and hands first, rather than pure speed/size.
Colsrob
02-01-2007, 02:09 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but I still really want Meachem. Something in my gut tells me it would be a terrific pick. The guy left school early because he has a child and wants to make a better life for it. That just makkes me think that he's stable, with a good head on his shoulders. Those actions speak of maturity and could be a solid link to him being very dedicated to playing his best. If he doesnt perform well, his idea of maing a better life for his family could go right out the window.
Im not sure what it is, but that gut feeling is really strong and I hope we get him and my gut is right. It also doesnt hurt that he has good size, good hands, great speed, decent route running and did get a lot of playing time in his 3 years in college.
In ending, I will comment on Ginn. There is no doubt that he is fast. However, he is small and his hands are not that great. The main reason that he had good numbers at OSU was due to his speed. Its kind of easy to catch footballs, when your 5 yards ahead of the nearest defender. Thats how a lot of his receptions were. That may sound perfect for a football team, but he wont be up against college db's anymore. Im not sure his speed will give him THAT much of an advantage in the pro's. Time will tell though. I compare Ginn to Desmond Howard. Great in college, but mainly a return guy in the nfl. I cant see wasting a 1st round pick for someone who will most likely be a returner.
Gobolts1
02-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Not to beat a dead horse, but I still really want Meachem. Something in my gut tells me it would be a terrific pick. The guy left school early because he has a child and wants to make a better life for it. That just makkes me think that he's stable, with a good head on his shoulders. Those actions speak of maturity and could be a solid link to him being very dedicated to playing his best. If he doesnt perform well, his idea of maing a better life for his family could go right out the window.
Im not sure what it is, but that gut feeling is really strong and I hope we get him and my gut is right. It also doesnt hurt that he has good size, good hands, great speed, decent route running and did get a lot of playing time in his 3 years in college.
In ending, I will comment on Ginn. There is no doubt that he is fast. However, he is small and his hands are not that great. The main reason that he had good numbers at OSU was due to his speed. Its kind of easy to catch footballs, when your 5 yards ahead of the nearest defender. Thats how a lot of his receptions were. That may sound perfect for a football team, but he wont be up against college db's anymore. Im not sure his speed will give him THAT much of an advantage in the pro's. Time will tell though. I compare Ginn to Desmond Howard. Great in college, but mainly a return guy in the nfl. I cant see wasting a 1st round pick for someone who will most likely be a returner.
Ginn's speed will definitely help him in the pros as he will be able to easily outrun anyone in the league as far as coverage goes.
My main concern is Rivers inability to get the ball downfield quick enough to utilize his speed.
Our recievers seem to always be waiting on the ball a bit. This is not a knock on Rivers but his long balls seem to take a while to get there.
Ginn would be better off with a team that has a QB like Cutler or Russell or Cullpepper who can throw it 75 yards off their back foot.
I think we need more of a YAC type reciever who will operate across the middle as well as down the field.
I think Meachem, Bowe and Rice are the guys I'd like to see us get.
BLUJAZZ
02-02-2007, 12:43 AM
If you gents don't mind I'd like to throw out some stats from this year. Meacham (6'3" 210 4.45) 71 Recs. 1298 Yds. 11 Tds.
Jarrett (6'5" 210 4.6) 70 1015 12
Rice (6'4" 205 4.45) 72 1090 10
Bowe (6'3" 215 4.55) 65 990 12
Steve Smith (6'0" 195 4.45) 71 1083 9
Ginn (6'0" 180 4.3) 59 781 9
2 TD's on punt returns
Johnnie Lee Higgins (6'0" 180 4.35) 82 1319 13
2 TD's on punt returns (12 returns for 281 yds.)
Keep in mind that Lee Evans, Marvin Harrison, Steve Smith, Santana Moss, etc. are small WR's that use speed and good route running towards successful receiving. We get enamored with big guys or college guys that didn't produce but dazzle scouts at the combine (they end up in places like Minnesota or Detroit). We want guys that performed consistently and elevated their game when they were needed most. We need speed over size. I don't think Jarret is our guy. Rice is a project and may not contribute for 2 years. Meacham and Bowe are moving up boards and may not be available. So don't be shocked if we take a DB in the first and a WR in the second. We also don't know what is going to happen to Turner but the compensation for him would probably be a first or second round pick. We desparately need a punt/kick returner. I would love to get J.Lee Higgins in the second round. I believe he will will be very good. Ditto for Ginn.
56lightsout56
02-02-2007, 01:12 PM
dang, this guy was signed today i am so sad now :rolleyes:
Buccaneers | Team signs D. Boston
Fri, 2 Feb 2007 09:23:24 -0800
Jim Flynn, of the Pewter Report, reports the <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/35/nfl">Tampa Bay Buccaneers signed free agent WR David Boston (http://www.kffl.com/player/53/nfl) (Buccaneers) to a contract Friday, Feb. 2. Terms of the deal were not available, although it is believed to be for one year.
http://www.kffl.com/hotw/nfl
as fas as FA WRs go, take a look at Drew Bennett's Stats
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/245091
positives?
fits bolts receivers molds 6-5, 206 lbs
even with a rookie QB in 2006, 36 out of 46 of his receptions went for first downs. in 2005 36 out of 58
In 2004 62 out of 80 receptions went for first downs.
who was his QB for most of that year (he's on the Bolts now)
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/188108
Also, 59 catches out of 273 carrer receptions have been for over 20 yards. (thats 21.61% of his catches or 1 out of 5)
that is pretty good productivity, he's clutch in cathing the football and he moves the chains.
negatives?
Age: 29 in August and price maybe too high once he hits the market.
AJ may still give him a look
hoopdreams
02-04-2007, 03:48 AM
Dang, I was really hoping to land Boston again because of his history in San Diego. What a tragic loss for the Chargers out of the free agent pool.
I think we need to get Andre Dyson back on the field.
Clint Beastwood
02-05-2007, 08:10 AM
I think Donte Stallworth is a FA, but I doubt it will happen because he will want too much money, and some team will be stupid enough to give him it....i.e. see Nate Burleson
Crayton will be a huge sign if we could somehow get our hands on him. It's funny though, everyone talks about Crayton being a future star!!! Why is it that he has not been able to show it on the field? I mean, if he was THAT good why couldn't he find his way on the field for the 'Boys? Is there something I'm missing because I think the world of his skill and every time I see him play he has impressed me.
velocity760
02-06-2007, 12:20 AM
i want dwayne Jarret
Da_Cha-gers
02-07-2007, 02:08 PM
Crayton will be a huge sign if we could somehow get our hands on him. It's funny though, everyone talks about Crayton being a future star!!! Why is it that he has not been able to show it on the field? I mean, if he was THAT good why couldn't he find his way on the field for the 'Boys? Is there something I'm missing because I think the world of his skill and every time I see him play he has impressed me.
He was the Cowboys 3rd receiver after Terry Glenn and T.O. ..... it would probably be somewhat difficult for most/all of our current recievers to be much more than the 3rd receiver there also IMO. And before T.O. got there - it was Keyshawn and Glenn ...... "With veteran Keyshawn Johnson lining up opposite Glenn, the Cowboys boast a starting receiver duo that has a combined 1,134 receptions for 15,557 yards and 85 touchdowns".
Crayton's stats show a mostly slight steady increase each yr:
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/492917
Since he's a RFA it could/would require us to give up "some" compensation, I like Crayton and also Ernest Wilford - who's also a RFA, and think either one could probably be helpful to us - "IF" the price is right ...... I wouldn't overpay or chase either in a bidding war though.
There's also the possiblility of a trade for someone that A.J. could "hand pick" from another team, and then of course the draft, but I'm not looking for immediate help at WR in the draft - however, if it worked out that way - it would be pretty nice.
Go Chargers!
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