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StLBoltboy
07-27-2006, 07:47 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239
BEREA, Ohio -- Pro Bowl center LeCharles Bentley sustained an injury to his left knee during the Browns' first 11-on-11 drill of training camp on Thursday.
Bentley got tangled in a pile of players as he was blocking on a running play for Reuben Droughns.
Bentley screamed, "No," before remaining on his knees as the Browns moved their scrimmage up the field so trainers could attend to the 6-foot-2, 309-pound player.
He stayed on the ground in a seated position for several minutes before Cleveland's medical staff immobilized his left knee and carted him to the locker room.
Bentley covered his face with a towel on the short drive to the field house as Browns players and fans looked on in shock.
The extent of Bentley's injury is not yet known.
Bentley, a five-year veteran, signed as a free agent with the Browns in March.
Tycebrew
07-27-2006, 09:13 AM
One report said he broke his leg... but I havent seen any link to it yet.
Chargeroo
07-27-2006, 09:22 AM
Wow, if he's going to miss much time that's a big blow to the Browns.
Podium
07-27-2006, 09:25 AM
All human emotion aside and looking at this STRICTLY from a football point of view. This is good for the Chargers if he's out for the Nov. 5th game. Pucillo and Hallen are his backups I believe, and won't be able to match Jamal Williams.
From a human point of view, I hope he gets better.
Boltbaby
07-27-2006, 09:27 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239
Wow...that is a heartbreaker. I can just imagine how the Browns fans must. Those were some big, hairy dollars they paid to have Bentley gimping around on the sidelines.
Good luck, LeCharles. I hope it isn't too serious.
EGClutch
07-27-2006, 11:44 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239
Good thing we didn't sign Mr. Bad Knee ;). So maybe he did get tangled up. But imagine if we did sign him and he got hurt, that would be taking a toll on our cap.
Podium
07-27-2006, 11:50 AM
http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=31757
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 11:55 AM
if it is true, this should make all the people who wanted san diego to sign him, a little less hostile (even though we never really had a shot at bringing him in)
benjamink15
07-27-2006, 12:01 PM
Its unfortunate but ... from a football point of view (like Podium said), this is great if the injury can linger for a few months :) :(
Ikeman83
07-27-2006, 12:03 PM
The Browns are cursed. That's three years in a row that a big player of theirs has gotten injured early.
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 12:05 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2531239
Good thing we didn't sign Mr. Bad Knee ;). So maybe he did get tangled up. But imagine if we did sign him and he got hurt, that would be taking a toll on our cap.if we had signed him and he had gotten hurt saints fans would be all over us like white on rice ,and AJ would be getting killed on this board, but it is a long training camp/pre season/reg season, hopefully none of ours get this badly damaged.
(if he is indeed badly damaged)
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 12:09 PM
The Browns are cursed. That's three years in a row that a big player of theirs has gotten injured early.so true , they have the worst luck in the world, them and the cubbies
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 12:39 PM
A Brown's website (http://browns.scout.com/2/550197.html) is calling the injury a "twisted knee" but speculation continues to believe that is is a patella tear of the knee.
Video of the injury play (http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/9584585/detail.html).
JoeMcRugby
07-27-2006, 12:39 PM
The Browns are cursed. That's three years in a row that a big player of theirs has gotten injured early.
I'm not sure, but isn't it four years in a row?
Didn't former 1st pick in the draft Tim Couch blew out his rotator cuff in 2003?
JoeMcRugby
07-27-2006, 12:43 PM
A Brown's website (http://browns.scout.com/2/550197.html) is calling the injury a "twisted knee" but speculation continues to believe that is is a patella tear of the knee.
Video of the injury play (http://www.newsnet5.com/sports/9584585/detail.html).
Wow - the very first play of training camp. :(
StLBoltboy
07-27-2006, 01:10 PM
Wow - the very first play of training camp. :(
One and done, John Clayton's saying that it could be a season ender for Bentley.
kinghooker
07-27-2006, 01:19 PM
One and done, John Clayton's saying that it could be a season ender for Bentley.
Guess who is taking over Bentley's spot. None other that Bob. Yes, Bob, oops
that was a dumb penalty Hallen. Remember the Philly game.
Draako
07-27-2006, 01:29 PM
I didn't see this anywhere yet.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5822046
Browns' Bentley injures knee
BEREA, Ohio (AP) - Pro Bowl center LeCharles Bentley (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/101748), one of Cleveland's biggest free-agent signings this winter, injured his left knee during the Browns (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67042)' first 11-on-11 drill of training camp on Thursday.
Bentley got tangled in a pile of players as he was blocking on a running play for Reuben Droughns (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/69627).
Bentley screamed, "No," before remaining on his knees as the Browns (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67042) moved their scrimmage up the field so the 6-foot-2, 309-pounder could be attended to. He stayed on the ground in a seated position for several minutes before Cleveland's medical staff immobilized his left knee and carted him to the locker room.
Bentley covered his face with a towel on the short drive to the field house as Browns (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67042) players and fans looked on in shock.
"I don't know what happened," quarterback Charlie Frye (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/299983) said. "You just hope it's not too serious. Right now, we're just praying for LeCharles."
Coach Romeo Crennel said Bentley was taken to a hospital for an MRI. Crennel wouldn't speculate on the nature of Bentley's injury.
"I'm going to wait until after the doctors see it," said Crennel, who wasn't sure how Bentley got hurt. "I hate to see anybody go down. Sometimes feet get tangled and guys end up on the ground."
Crennel had his players only in shoulder pads for the two-hour morning workout, hoping that staying out of full pads on Day 2 of camp would help them avoid injuries.
The Browns (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/67042) have been cursed with serious injuries the past few seasons. On Thursday, tight end Kellen Winslow (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/player/200305) practiced for the first time in two years in pads after missing the past two seasons with leg injuries.
Bentley, a two-time Pro Bowler who was regarded as one of the offseason's premier unrestricted free agents, signed a six-year, $36 million deal in March that included $12.5 million in guaranteed money.
Whopper Stopper
07-27-2006, 02:04 PM
If hallens replacing him than i feel even more sorry for the browns. That guy was almost worthless.
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 02:10 PM
If hallens replacing him than i feel even more sorry for the browns. That guy was almost worthless.
From KFFL ......
Browns | Hallen works with first-team offense
Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:45:32 -0700
ClevelandBrowns.com reports Cleveland Browns OG Bob Hallen replaced injured C LeCharles Bentley (knee) at center with the first-team offense during the team's morning practice Thursday, July 27.
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 02:41 PM
*** Update ***
I'm listening live to the NFL Channel, and a Brown's spokesman (Phil Savage) just confirmed that it is a torn left patella tendon.
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 03:00 PM
*** Update ***
I'm listening live to the NFL Channel, and a Brown's spokesman (Phil Savage) just confirmed that it is a torn left patella tendon.ouch, see ya in 07 bentley
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 03:18 PM
Browns General Manager, Phil Savage, also said the Browns will be looking to acquire another player for depth - behind new starting center - Bob Hallen.
Chargeroo
07-27-2006, 03:21 PM
Browns General Manager, Phil Savage, also said the Browns will be looking to acquire another player for depth - behind new starting center - Bob Hallen.
I hate to hear about this sort of thing. It's a reminder for us of what can happen. Bently is a great Center and Hallen is barely adequate. That's a huge difference.
Balboa 1961
07-27-2006, 04:12 PM
Another source
http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/07/27/ap2910563.html
Associated Press
Browns' Bentley Hurts Knee, Out for Season
By TOM WITHERS , 07.27.2006, 06:33 PM
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Stretched out on a flatbed cart, LeCharles Bentley covered his face with a towel to hide his disappointment and tears. This wasn't the homecoming he had planned.
His first season with the Cleveland Browns ended before it began.
Bentley, a two-time Pro Bowl center and one of the team's prized free agent signings this winter, sustained a season-ending injury to his left knee on the first 11-on-11 drill of training camp Thursday - a crushing blow for a club seemingly cursed by major injuries the past few seasons.
"He was the face of our free-agent class," general manager Phil Savage said. "We feel terrible for LeCharles, but life goes on."
Savage said Bentley tore his patellar tendon and will undergo surgery as early as Friday. Savage declined to say if Bentley's tear was partial or complete and would not speculate on a timeframe for recovery.
Blocking for Reuben Droughns on an off-tackle running play to the right, Bentley, who played four years at New Orleans, was briefly engaged in a block up front with nose tackle Ted Washington when his left knee buckled.
Bentley screamed, "No!" and grabbed his knee as Cleveland coach Romeo Crennel and his staff blew their whistles to halt play. While on his knees, the 26-year-old Bentley punched the ground in disgust as the Browns moved their scrimmage up the field so the club's medical staff could attend to him.
Bentley's injury is the latest for a Browns team beset by serious medical setbacks - No. 1 overall picks Courtney Brown and quarterback Tim Couch had several major injuries - since the club returned to the league as an expansion team in 1999.
On Thursday, tight end Kellen Winslow had his first contact after missing the past two seasons with major leg injuries. The Browns are also without wide receiver Braylon Edwards, their first-round pick in 2005, who is expected to be out until Oct. 1 following knee surgery.
When Winslow was seriously hurt in a motorcycle before last season, Savage, who was beginning his first year in Cleveland, complained about Browns fans feeling as if their team was jinxed.
Despite Bentley's injury, he said the club has to push on.
"We have to stay above the talk of the negativity and stay above the talk of the Browns have done this or this has happened," he said. "We're going to have the mind-set and frame of mind going forward that we're going to get the job done. We're going to do some great things this season. Life goes on and I think our players realize that."
Bentley's injury seemed to sap the spirit out of Cleveland's morning practice, which ended with thunder rumbling in the distance.
The Browns signed Bentley to protect second-year quarterback Charlie Frye and help an offense that scored a league-low 232 points last season. After Bentley was signed, the Browns traded center Jeff Faine on draft day to the Saints.
Savage said the club will look to add a free-agent lineman in the next few days to back up Bob Hallen, who will move into Bentley's starting spot.
Crennel did his best to lighten the mood during an interview after practice, but losing Bentley is a devastating blow to the Browns, who have high hopes for 2006.
For the morning workout, Crennel had his players only wearing shoulder pads, hoping that staying out of full pads on Day 2 of training camp would help them avoid injuries. Crennel said players are reminded to be careful.
"The first general rule is to stay off the ground and protect your teammates," he said. "Sometimes guys will give an extra push in competition. Sometimes they pull a guy down. We talked to them about not giving them that extra push and not pulling guys down."
Bentley took over as the Saints center in training camp two years ago. He started all 16 games in 2004 and was named a Pro Bowl alternate. Last year, he made 14 starts before missing the final two games with an elbow injury.
Bentley, who played at Cleveland's St. Ignatius High School and Ohio State, decided not to re-sign with the Saints for a chance to come home and play for the Browns. He signed a six-year, $36 million deal in March that included $12.5 million in guaranteed money.
At his introductory news conference in Cleveland, Bentley peeled off his sports coat to reveal a Browns No. 00 jersey. He petitioned the league to allow him to wear 00, but was turned down and chose 57.
"He probably wanted to play for the Cleveland Browns as much as anyone we have," Savage said. "We feel real bad for him."
psychofan
07-27-2006, 05:23 PM
Browns lose center Bentley for season
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/9574072
Look's like its a good thing we didn't get this guy. It couldv'e been a waste of money and if Hardwick was practicing somewhere else than he wouldn't be prepared.
Damn... this hurts my fantasy team!
And remember AJ did want him... he just didn't want to come here.
Tycebrew
07-27-2006, 05:30 PM
Browns lose center Bentley for season
http://www.nfl.com/teams/story/CLE/9574072
Look's like its a good thing we didn't get this guy. It couldv'e been a waste of money and if Hardwick was practicing somewhere else than he wouldn't be prepared.
Was a freak accident... if he had come here to San Diego, the injury, 99%, most likely would not have happened.
MMJ4mil
07-27-2006, 05:31 PM
wow welcome to the big show Bob hallen haha
Was a freak accident... if he had come here to San Diego, the injury, 99%, most likely would not have happened.
True. Looks like Hallen's gonna be working. :D
Tycebrew
07-27-2006, 05:33 PM
True. Looks like Hallen's gonna be working. :D
Yep... All 16 games.
Yep... All 16 games.
Well... we'll see how he does... I need Rueben Droughns to do well!!! lol.
yonas
07-27-2006, 06:06 PM
Well... we'll see how he does... I need Rueben Droughns to do well!!! lol.
lol, there goes Droughns, whose your second rb.:D
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 06:15 PM
Even though we didn't draft Hallen, are we eligible for a Compensatory draft pick based on his playing time in Cleveland?
I'm not sure if non-drafted players that leave by FA are eligible for calculations into compensatory draft picks.
56lightsout56
07-27-2006, 06:15 PM
first reports may not be completely accurate but, hopefully he will come back.
POSTED 5:22 p.m. EDT, July 27, 2006
BENTLEY HAS TORN PATELLA TENDON
A league source tells us that it's "99.9 percent certain" that Browns center LeCharles Bentley has a torn patella tendon. He is expected have surgery within 24 hours and most likely will miss the entire 2006 season.
Ordinarily, we'd talk a little bit about the team's other options for replacing Bentley, who signed a big-money deal with the team on the first day of free agency after backing out of a wink-nod arrangement with the Eagles that had been negotiated prior to the "official" launch of the signing period.
We'd also take some time to comment on the possibility that karma might be to blame for the injury.
But, hey, we're on vacation. We'll leave it to whoever reports this story after us (and who doesn't give us credit for it) to deal with those details.
http://profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
JoeMcRugby
07-27-2006, 06:17 PM
Even though we didn't draft Hallen, are we eligible for a Compensatory draft pick based on his playing time in Cleveland?
I'm not sure if non-drafted players that leave by FA are eligible for calculations into compensatory draft picks.
I'm pretty sure that they do get compensated. Something I hadn't thought about before you mentioned it. :Cheers:
lol, there goes Droughns, whose your second rb.:D
Wanna trade? :(
LOL.
yonas
07-27-2006, 06:19 PM
I hope we can get 6th rounder at least, maybe 5th but that might be pushing it. What is the criteria is it how many games he plays in?
I wish him a speedy recovery. :Helmet:
yonas
07-27-2006, 06:21 PM
Wanna trade? :(
LOL.
I got Tiki, no going to happen. I am also banking on Fred Taylor, God knows i am praying for a healthy season from him. I will probably take another back in the Draft tomorrow though, just in case.
Let me see after week one, then maybe ill trade you!;)
Well Droughns was still a top rusher over Taylor last year... so...
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 06:31 PM
I hope we can get 6th rounder at least, maybe 5th but that might be pushing it. What is the criteria is it how many games he plays in?
Contract size (he's probably close to the minimum), playing time, and end of season awards.
I have never seen mentioned whether a player had to have been drafted to be considered a compensatory free agent.
A team can get a max of four compensatory draft selections. I'm pretty sure we'll get one for Brees and Leber, with maybe Peele's or Caldwell deal being offset by us signing McCree.
I still think we'll get 3 picks. A 3rd, 5th and 7th. Just a guess though.
sandyk
07-27-2006, 06:31 PM
All human emotion aside and looking at this STRICTLY from a football point of view. This is good for the Chargers if he's out for the Nov. 5th game. Pucillo and Hallen are his backups I believe, and won't be able to match Jamal Williams.
From a human point of view, I hope he gets better.
Well put Podium.
KingGL
07-27-2006, 06:41 PM
The article on ESPN said Hallen will start and they will look to add a back-up....Who is left????
Shamrock
07-27-2006, 06:50 PM
The article on ESPN said Hallen will start and they will look to add a back-up....Who is left????
I think Cory Raymer and Kendl Jacox are still unsigned.
Ikeman83
07-27-2006, 08:32 PM
I still can't get over this. The Browns line was actually looking really good for this year.
Also, anyone who is saying they're glad we didn't get him is out of their mind. Hardwick might've stepped his game up enough that we don't need him, but he would've been a great addition.
kcboltfan
07-27-2006, 09:04 PM
I still can't get over this. The Browns line was actually looking really good for this year.
Also, anyone who is saying they're glad we didn't get him is out of their mind. Hardwick might've stepped his game up enough that we don't need him, but he would've been a great addition.
But not at the price he went for. And we would have had to pay even more than Cleveland did to get him. This story is exactly why I think that AJ has the correct philosophy. Set a value on a player and make an offer based on that value. Do not overpay, just because you can, to get a guy. You are doomed when guys get hurt and your back up is Bob Hallen because you spent to much on the "stud" FA.
I still can't get over this. The Browns line was actually looking really good for this year.
Also, anyone who is saying they're glad we didn't get him is out of their mind. Hardwick might've stepped his game up enough that we don't need him, but he would've been a great addition.
And he probably wouldn't have gotten injured here.
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 09:25 PM
And he probably wouldn't have gotten injured here.probably but now we have at least a year to NOT listen to people saying "we could have had bentley" if he would have done anything for the browns offense in 06 (we didn't have a legit shot to sign him, but at least we won't have to hear it from the fans who don't realize that)
LtsGirl
07-27-2006, 09:52 PM
Man, sorry to hear that. I hope he fully recovers.
Yeah, I hope he recovers too. I think that got lost in all of this. Get well.
StLBoltboy
07-27-2006, 09:59 PM
I wonder what Jeff Faine's thinking about all of this, considering the Browns signing of Bentley basically sent Jeff packing to New Orleans.
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 10:01 PM
I wonder what Jeff Faine's thinking about all of this, considering the Browns signing of Bentley basically sent Jeff packing to New Orleans.faine is laughing and saying to loomis, bet that bentley for me trade is looking a whole lot better right now eh boss!, and loomis is saying, it wasn't a trade stupid
PanzerJager
07-27-2006, 11:17 PM
I feel sorry for Browns fans. They have had 1 winning season in 10 years (9-7) and didnt play for 3 years (96-98). So many injuries to key players... I hope Bently recovers.
JCDavey
07-27-2006, 11:21 PM
I feel sorry for Browns fans. They have had 1 winning season in 10 years (9-7) and didnt play for 3 years (96-98). So many injuries to key players... I hope Bently recovers.yeah and almost the second their franchise up and leaves town, they win a superbowl in baltimore , man it truely must suck to be a browns fan.
rubbermusic
07-28-2006, 08:02 PM
Wow I just saw this. Sorry if it was posted already. I've been away from the board for a little bit. Out on the first play of training camp. Man, lucky this didn't happen to us. I would've been pissed if we signed him and he went out for the season. Sucks for the Browns.
BreesLightning
07-28-2006, 08:05 PM
Lately thing just go wrong for the browns
619->951
07-28-2006, 08:12 PM
http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=31757
SDChargeHer
07-28-2006, 08:15 PM
I'm not going to shed a tear for any opponent on our schedule. Especially with all the crap i've had to put up with as a Chargers fan over the years. Hopefully this makes our game against them easier. i don't wish injury on anyone outside of danny clark. :21:
IgorUnchained
07-31-2006, 03:58 AM
With Bentley down the Chargers D will be looking at a familiar face at the C position.....Bob Hallen who played for the Bolts last season.
Should be interesting!