Could Chargers Still Trade Michael Turner?

[Lucid]

Green Bay... 1st round... http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/06/25/could-chargers-still-trade-michael-turner/

[JCDavey]

Green Bay... 1st round... http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/06/25/could-chargers-still-trade-michael-turner/they could trade him

they could trade LT too

anything's possible

[JCDavey]

i believe the big name the departing GB guy was talking about was culpepper though

[JoeMcRugby]

The time to trade any picks for Turner was before the 2007 draft so that the Chargers could fill 2007 holes in the roster.

A 2008 draft pick adds nothing to the 2007 Chargers - and trading Turner leaves a huge hole on the Chargers roster that could seriously damage their efforts in lifting a Lombardi.

Sorry, Pack - you missed out on your chance. I'll believe AJ when he says it's over with: Turner is a Charger for the 2007 season.

[Boltbaby]

The time to trade any picks for Turner was before the 2007 draft so that the Chargers could fill 2007 holes in the roster.

A 2008 draft pick adds nothing to the 2007 Chargers - and trading Turner leaves a huge hole on the Chargers roster that could seriously damage their efforts in lifting a Lombardi.

Sorry, Pack - you missed out on your chance. I'll believe AJ when he says it's over with: Turner is a Charger for the 2007 season.


Unless of course we could get a first in 2008 and a third in 2008 that we could use in the sup draft to get Oliver...hmm.

[Soul Assassin]

I'd hate to see Turner traded before this season is over. He is a big piece of the puzzle for a Super Bowl run this year. But like I said in a thread a couple of months ago, I see him being traded by week 6. We'll see how our first few games go before they decide on when and who to trade him to. I really hope I'm wrong about this cause like I said he is a SOLID backup to L.Tizzle and he can help us get to the big game. But its all about business and our business is the Super Bowl!! Lets keep him here this season and deal with it when the season is almost over. Most importantly, lets let Turner leave next year with a ring!!!!!:Beer:

[vheman]

Late to the party again, Packers. No sympathy from this corner for a once-great franchise that must now wallow in its own mediocrity for the forseeable future. Yeah, Brett Favre was great. He was.

[JoeMcRugby]

Unless of course we could get a first in 2008 and a third in 2008 that we could use in the sup draft to get Oliver...hmm.

I believe that the pick has to be your own (not traded for), but I'm not positive.

Maybe someone can verify that rule.

Still doubtful, though. This blogger is under the impression that a 2008 first round pick would be enough in and of itself - no such luck, especially since it's been reported that the Chargers already turned down a trade proposal for a 2008 first round pick before the draft.

[BoltsfanNYC]

mcrugby.... GB 1st for turner if offered will go down. too much to turn(er) away. and we can get by with our backups and free up some cap room to add a VET! S

[charger1_sj]

mcrugby.... GB 1st for turner if offered will go down. too much to turn(er) away. and we can get by with our backups and free up some cap room to add a VET! S

A trade for a 2008 1st rounder does not help us in 2007, that's why it won't happen unless there are other players involved. You can bet AJ isn't letting MT budge unless he takes the Pack to the cleaners. At this point AJ has all the leverage. We have MT and it's going to take one hell of a deal to pry him away, much more than a 2008 1st rounder.

[JoeMcRugby]

mcrugby.... GB 1st for turner if offered will go down. too much to turn(er) away. and we can get by with our backups and free up some cap room to add a VET! S

There isn't a vet safety on the market who is worth a dime in the Chargers system. They're all poor-coverage hard-hitting over-the-hill throw aways from other lesser teams.

AJ will laugh at the Packers if they offer a 2008 first round pick for Turner. He's already turned down that package before the draft - and before he said he wouldn't entertain any further trade discussions.

When AJ is up in the air about something, you can tell because he's non-committal. The next time that he says something unequivocably ("write it down - Turner is a Charger for the 2007 season") and reverses field will be a first.

[kidtwist]

Unless you haven't been paying attention, I think Smith has a track record of doing what he says he is going to do. He has said he will not trade Michael Turner under any circumstances this year. Is there a lack of communication? Is this unclear? There seems to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time this off season. There are plenty things we can discuss, but this one is out there. When AJ says something is going to happen, bet on it.

[charger1_sj]

Unless you haven't been paying attention, I think Smith has a track record of doing what he says he is going to do. He has said he will not trade Michael Turner under any circumstances this year. Is there a lack of communication? Is this unclear? There seems to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time this off season. There are plenty things we can discuss, but this one is out there. When AJ says something is going to happen, bet on it.

Well he didn't say "no trade under any circumstances". He said MT is off the trading block and will be a Charger for 07'. But I have to agree that the odds of MT playing for a team other than the Chargers this year are pretty steep.

The Pack would have to make a deal that involves some players that the Chargers could use for 07' + the 08' #1. I'm not a Packer fan and am not familiar with their team but off the top of my head I can't think of one Packer that could possibly help the 07' Chargers and that the Pack would consider trading. For that reason alone I think the blog is way off base.
Plus as you and others have pointed out AJ's word is a pretty strong indicator of what to expect.

[56lightsout56]

I believe that the pick has to be your own (not traded for), but I'm not positive.

Maybe someone can verify that rule.

Still doubtful, though. This blogger is under the impression that a 2008 first round pick would be enough in and of itself - no such luck, especially since it's been reported that the Chargers already turned down a trade proposal for a 2008 first round pick before the draft.

Michael David Smith writes for profootballtalk when florio "the grand pooba" is not available.

He's written 5 of the stories on todays "blog".

the story itself from 6/25 addresses Culpepper and Larry "crybaby" Johnson with nary a word about Turner:


POSTED 7:01 a.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 8:00 a.m. EDT, June 25, 2007
KOONCE HINTS AT PACKERS MOVE?
Several readers have told us that, in a recent Wisconsin radio interview, former Packers director of player development George Koonce hinted that the team could soon be adding a big-name player on offense.

Koonce, who played linebacker for the Packers in the 1990s, recently left the organization to become assistant athletic director at Marquette.

If true, who could it be? Unless Keyshawn Johnson is going to turn his back on ESPN (his deal actually might include a clause allowing him to return to the NFL without penalty), there really isn't any big-name offensive player currently on the open market.

A player who might be on the open market soon is quarterback Daunte Culpepper. A couple of weeks ago, we reported that the Packers are one of the teams that Culpepper would like to join.

Though he'd only play in 2007 if Brett Favre were to be injured, Culpepper would likely be first in line to take over the starting job if this is Favre's last season.

From a trade perspective, the most intriguing name is Chiefs running back Larry Johnson. Reports surfaced last week of a potential holdout, and it's possible that the Chiefs are quietly shopping him, as they were before the draft. Johnson would fill a huge need for the Packers, who have no veteran presence at the tailback position.

But trading for, and then paying big money to, a guy like Johnson doesn't seem to fit with the approach of G.M. Ted Thompson, who has been reluctant to make those kinds of moves. Also, Johnson's admission to Jason Whitlock that he's "always mad about something" isn't the kind of thing that a General Manager wants to hear when contemplating coughing up a first-round draft pick (or more) and $25 million guaranteed (or more).


Then shortly after, Michael David Smith wrote this article on PFT-again no mention of Turner.


POSTED 11:13 a.m. EDT, June 25, 2007
COULD COREY DILLON HEAD TO GREEN BAY? by Michael David Smith
Our report this morning that former Green Bay director of player development George Koonce hinted in a radio interview that the Packers could soon add a big-name player on offense raises the obvious question of who that player could be. There aren't many big names available, although wide receiver/ESPN analyst Keyshawn Johnson, soon-to-be-available Dolphins quarterback Daunte Culpepper and Chiefs running back Larry Johnson were the first names that came to mind.

One reader suggested another name: former Patriots running back Corey Dillon.

When the Patriots released Dillon in early March, there were widespread reports that Dillon was thinking about retirement but would consider playing (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2784304) for a team that would make him its featured back. Since then, Dillon has been tight-lipped about his future, but the Packers are one of the few teams that might consider signing Dillon with the understanding that he'll head into the season as the unquestioned starter. The Packers' depth chart (http://www.nfl.com/teams/depthcharts/GB) shows Vernand Morency, Brandon Jackson, Noah Herron and DeShawn Wynn at running back. That doesn't inspire much confidence.

Could Dillon still function as a featured back? Although he turns 33 in October, he probably could. He led the team in rushing (http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/NE) with 812 yards last season, and according to the advanced Football Outsiders stats (http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb.php), Dillon provided both more total value and more value on a per-play basis to the Patriots than his successor, Laurence Maroney, did last season.

And in addition to bolstering the running game, adding Dillon could accomplish something else: Placating Brett Favre. Lord Favre complained bitterly when the Packers didn't trade for wide receiver Randy Moss, and he might show up to training camp in a better mood if the front office gives him someone closer to his own age to play with.

At this point, the possibility of the Packers signing Dillon is just speculation. But if the Packers are serious about adding some veteran offensive firepower, Dillon is a name to keep in mind.



So how does this guy "Zobel" infer that from the PFT story and write his "story" on
http://www.draftheadquarters.com/page/page/4269113.htm

why he just adds his two cents in based on what he heard at the draft.

Jun 25th (10:52 AM)

Pro Football Talk (http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm) is reporting that in a recent Wisconsin radio interview, former Packers director of player development George Koonce hinted that the team could soon be adding a big-name player on offense. PFT suggests that this player could be Corey Dillon, ex-Patriots runningback. Another possibility could be San Diego's Michael Turner. When I was in New York for the Draft, I spoke with a league source that told me the Chargers could deal Turner to the Packers in return for Green Bay's 2008 1st Round pick. The Packers still have that 1st Round pick, and Brett Favre still isn't any happier. If they are indeed trying to add a "big-name player", then I wouldn't be surprised if it was Turner.

Turner isnt going anywhere I can see.

[JoeMcRugby]

So how does this guy "Zobel" infer that from the PFT story and write his "story" on
http://www.draftheadquarters.com/page/page/4269113.htm

why he just adds his two cents in based on what he heard at the draft.


Turner isnt going anywhere I can see.

Ahhhh ... I see this blogger pulls out the good ol' "league source" as the basis for the story.

Good to see that AJ shares his planned personnel moves with people around the NFL.






:rolleyes:



"League Source" = "I'm making it up as I go along, throwing it up against the wall and see what sticks"

[BoltsfanNYC]

AJ looking to the future. I wouldnt be shocked is all I am saying.

[JoeMcRugby]

AJ looking to the future. I wouldnt be shocked is all I am saying.

AJ giving up a major piece to the 2007 Super Bowl puzzle for the same trade offer that he reportedly turned down before he made his pronouncement that Turner is a Charger for the 2007 season ...

I'd be absolutely stunned. :crazy:

[AZcharger4life]

Hey McRugby when do the Chargers put on full pads in their mini camp? When do they actually do the contact stuff in full pads what is the exact date? Im driving from Arizona again this year but I want to see them work in pads is it the Saturday of Fan fest or what?

[ChargersBoi]

Unless you haven't been paying attention, I think Smith has a track record of doing what he says he is going to do. He has said he will not trade Michael Turner under any circumstances this year. Is there a lack of communication? Is this unclear? There seems to be waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much time this off season. There are plenty things we can discuss, but this one is out there. When AJ says something is going to happen, bet on it.This year he wont trade him but next year he gonna get the boot.

[Nomad]

This year he wont trade him but next year he gonna get the boot.

Who? I think AJ will still be here. MT will be an UFA, no boot, he will just sign with someone.

BTW, AJ might still trade MT, but the price will be very steep. A 1st in 2008 will not do it. I would think that it would take at least a 1st and 2nd and even that might not be enough if AJ thinks the picks will be late.

[BoltsfanNYC]

next years DRAFT is atleast 25% better than this years. A packers first with turner is probably a 15-18 pick.... and our 27-30 or 32 pick is with that pick 1.5 STARTERS! for A BACKUP! and then I would use 2nd on oliver and gamble.

[JoeMcRugby]

next years DRAFT is atleast 25% better than this years. A packers first with turner is probably a 15-18 pick.... and our 27-30 or 32 pick is with that pick 1.5 STARTERS! for A BACKUP! and then I would use 2nd on oliver and gamble.

Next year's draft does less than nothing for the team in 2007. Trading Turner for a 2008 pick weakens the 2007 Chargers - and AJ is not going to make a trade to weaken the 2007 Chargers. Thus, the reason for his unequivocal statement "The ship has sailed, Turner is a Charger for 2007."

If Green Bay wants Turner, offering their 2008 first round pick AND starting safety Nick Collins might be enough to get AJ to start changing his mind.

He's reportedly already turned down a 2008 first round pick for Turner. The reason is obvious: that trade significantly lowers the chance of the Chargers winning the Lombardi come February.

Getting Oliver - for a 2nd round pick when a 4th round pick will likely be more than enough - does nothing for 2007. He's still out of shape, he missed all OTAs and minicamps and knows nothing about the Chargers defensive scheme as a result.

Drafting Oliver adds nothing to the 2007 Chargers. Turner is a very important piece to the 2007 Chargers roster.

I'm not saying that "you" wouldn't do it - obviously you would.

The point is there is there's a zero chance of it happening. The source for AJ's interest is a blogger pulling a name out of a hat and predicting a trade that AJ rejected two months ago.

[BoltsPride]

What do you all think. What happens to Turner after the 07 season. Does he just become a free agent, what about a contract offer to keep him in San Diego for at least a couple more seasons ?. Maybe its just a wait and see game right now.

[JoeMcRugby]

What do you all think. What happens to Turner after the 07 season. Does he just become a free agent, what about a contract offer to keep him in San Diego for at least a couple more seasons ?. Maybe its just a wait and see game right now.

Turner is gone at the end of the season.

He'll be offered a massive contract by another team to be their every down starting RB - probably in the vicinity of $40 million.

With the Chargers having to extend contracts for Castillo, Igor, McNeill, VJ, Merriman & PR over the next few years at huge $$$, there's no chance that Turner will be back in 2008. In fact, AJ has already acknowledged that reality.

[PGHChargerfan]

I really, really like #33. Truth be told, I'm SHOCKED (but happy) he's even here for another season.
I thought the Giants, Jets, Texans, Browns, or Titans would have picked him up. Actually, I think these teams' running games will suffer as a result. If I were a GM, I'd have picked him up in a heartbeat!
When AJ dropped the price to just a first rounder, I'd have jumped at the chance. I think that much of #33.

[sartain32]

Hey McRugby when do the Chargers put on full pads in their mini camp? When do they actually do the contact stuff in full pads what is the exact date? Im driving from Arizona again this year but I want to see them work in pads is it the Saturday of Fan fest or what?

AZcharger4life,
I am also from AZ, but I live in San Diego now (because of the Navy). I actually live across the street from Qualcomm Stadium just so I can walk to the games! Anyway, I included the Training Camp schedule with some information for you. I went to a bunch of the practice sessions and the Fanfest last year and from what I recall the full contact practices started after the third practice and although the Fanfest was full pads, they didn't do any hitting. It was all for show - more of a dress rehearsal for the fans than anything else. It was still pretty cool. All the children loved it. Back to the full-pads practice though. Last year we were under Marty's rules for practice. Norv might not conduct his practices the same way. The best way to keep up to date is look under "NEWS" at the top of your screen, scroll down to "EVENTS". They keep the Training Camp schedule up to date pretty well. Hopefully this was helpful.

2007 Training Camp

When: July 28 - August 22, 2007
Where: Chargers Park

Come and cheer on your Chargers as they prepare for the 2007 NFL Season. Due of the lack of available parking, select practices are open to the public and FREE of charge.


Saturday, July 28, 20072007 3:30-6:00 PM
Sunday, July 29, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Monday, July 30, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 7:00-9:20 PM Night Practice
Thursday, August 2, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Friday, August 3, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Saturday, August 4, 2007 10:00-1:00 PM Qualcomm Stadium (Fan Fest)

Tuesday, August 7, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Wednesday, August 8, 2007 7:00-9:20 Night
Friday, August 10, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Tuesday, August 14, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Thursday, August 16, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Tuesday, August 21, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:30-6:00 PM
The 2007 Training Camp will be held at Charger Park in San Diego. Chargers Park is located at 4020 Murphy Canyon Road, just west of I-15 between Aero Drive and Clairemont Mesa Blvd.

[sartain32]

I really, really like #33. Truth be told, I'm SHOCKED (but happy) he's even here for another season.
I thought the Giants, Jets, Texans, Browns, or Titans would have picked him up. Actually, I think these teams' running games will suffer as a result. If I were a GM, I'd have picked him up in a heartbeat!
When AJ dropped the price to just a first rounder, I'd have jumped at the chance. I think that much of #33.

I agree. He is a really solid RB. I am happy that we will have him one more year. I wish it could be more, but I will gladly take the gift of one more solid year, especially for the price we paid for him.

[BoltsPride]

Turner is gone at the end of the season.

He'll be offered a massive contract by another team to be their every down starting RB - probably in the vicinity of $40 million.

With the Chargers having to extend contracts for Castillo, Igor, McNeill, VJ, Merriman & PR over the next few years at huge $$$, there's no chance that Turner will be back in 2008. In fact, AJ has already acknowledged that reality.

Since the reality is what it is. I hope Turner hits free agency in 08 with a SB ring on his finger. Even though he does not get a lot of carries for the obvious reason, He sure does make the most of them when he does.

[kidtwist]

Where is the link that AJ has acknowledged that Turner wil not be back? I don't remember hearing or reading that. The only thing I have heard him address is next year. I don not think they will let him walk. I think they wil franchise tag him for the year and take it one year at a time. Or they could franchise tag him and trade him. I just don't believe they will let him walk away with nothing in return. I could be wrong, but that's what I think. As always, time will tell.

[JoeMcRugby]

Where is the link that AJ has acknowledged that Turner wil not be back? I don't remember hearing or reading that. The only thing I have heard him address is next year. I don not think they will let him walk. I think they wil franchise tag him for the year and take it one year at a time. Or they could franchise tag him and trade him. I just don't believe they will let him walk away with nothing in return. I could be wrong, but that's what I think. As always, time will tell.

First of all, the Chargers will not pay their backup RB $9 million for the 2008 season - at a $9 million charge to the 2008 cap. Say goodbye to Igor should they implement that plan.

They could tag and trade, but they would have to trade. In that situation, he's still gone.
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I've heard AJ say on XX say that they're now prepared for Turner to play the 2007 season as a Charger and be content to continue to collect supplemental picks when he inevitably leaves (or something to that effect). AJ emphasized the importance of collecting supplemental picks so that they have flexibility on draft day to make trades like the one for Weddle - and that he fully expects a high pick for Edwards next year.

I know I read it somewhere and will do an in-depth Google search for the quote tonight or tomorrow.

Here's the first quote from AJ that touched on the subject. He got a lot more specific in his interviews and in other articles:
_______________________________

“I want Michael Turner to know how I feel about him,” Smith said yesterday. “ . . . I want Michael to know while he's playing his heart and soul for the Chargers this year that this is where he'll be. Whether they admit it or not, it is on a guy's minds when there are trade talks. He's not available until next year.”

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20070501-9999-1s1chargers.html



Here's another tidbit about that article about the days leading up to the draft.

Think about it: AJ turns down two offers of 1st round picks, makes a statement about Turner not being traded at all, and then accept a deal that he twice rejected before proclaiming that Turner is a Charger for 2007.

Kind of throws water on the bloggers claim about Turner being traded for merely a 1st round pick after making the above-statement, doesn't it?

Even as at least two teams offered first-round picks in the past few days, Smith asked for more.

[bolts4ever21]

I do think Turner will not be moved. Not only for the fact that AJ said so. Even though that should be enough. But also for the fact that the head coach N. Turner wants to keep him here. Again, to run SMASHMOUTH.

Again, if the price to too much to turn down, then do it. But I don't think any team will ante that much!!!

[Draako]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20070501-9999-1s1chargers.html

here is a link

[ChargersBoi]

I would like a 1st round pick for turner.

[JoeMcRugby]

I would like a 1st round pick for turner.

AJ would have liked it also - but it had to be a 2007 1st round pick so that the Chargers would get use of the pick after Turner is gone.

But nobody would buck up to the price - the best anyone would apparently offer was a 2008 first round pick with no Michael Turner in 2007.

How the heck does that help the Chargers in their charge for a 2007 Super Bowl championship?

Now it has to be much much more than a simple 2008 first rounder to pry Turner away. It needs to be a blockbuster that knocks AJ off of his chair.

[conrad_d]

you think aj will try the same thing next year to?

[sartain32]

you think aj will try the same thing next year to?

No way. We won't have the same leverage with Turner next year. He will leave as a FA for huge money somewhere else. We will have to address his departure in next year's draft. But hopefully when he leaves here he will have a ring on his finger and then the departure won't hurt as bad.

[TurnerThaBurner]

AJ's already made it clear... Turner's officially 'off the table' as of now. The Titans & Packers can go ahead and kick themselves. They had a chance to bite, but they blew it. Sorry folks, kitchen's closed here in Chargerville!



Even if a back from another team were to go down w/ an injury during TC, MT's pretty much on lockdown now as long as AJ's calling the shots.


I'd say it would have to take a rather large care package filled with a 1st, 2nd and 2 3rd round picks in order to make AJ even consider working out a trade deal at this time. But I doubt even that would be enough to convince him to give up his reliable insurance policy for our '07 season and a possible SB run. Unless he could predict another Herchel Walker-like trade deal, it'd be a gamble with a risky outcome he shouldn't be willing to take.

[Dj Chemical]

giving up a 1st round pick for a backup is stupid if someone offers it they should take it

[ChargersBoi]

giving up a 1st round pick for a backup is stupid if someone offers it they should take itIts not stupid its smart for us but stupid for the team who takes it. I would love a 1st round pick for Turner. If I was a GM I would never give another team a 1st round pick for a backup. But I sure in the hell will take it.

[Texas lightning]

WE SHOULD HAVE ALL KNOWN AJ in fact wanted to keep the burner that's why he put such a high price on his head. He knew most of the team wern't dessperate enough to give up a first and a third pick.

[JoeMcRugby]

giving up a 1st round pick for a backup is stupid if someone offers it they should take it

Two teams reportedly offered a 2008 first round pick on the eve of the draft - AJ turned it down.

From May 1st:

Even as at least two teams offered first-round picks in the past few days, Smith asked for more.

http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports/chargers/20070501-9999-1s1chargers.html

Why would he suddenly accept the same offer after he proclaimed to the media the Turner is a Charger for 2007.

BTW There are always "stupid" teams to take advantage of - and not surprising to me that you tag Turner as if he's nothing. He's coveted by other teams around the league, but apparently they're not willing to give up AJ's price in draft picks and pay the huge contract that "backup" Turner will get next offseason.

[GoTomlinson]

The best game of 2005 featuring the run which introduced to football nation to Michael Turner.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8062970721904697489&q=turner+indianapolis+colts&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Texas lightning]

The best game of 2005 featuring the run which introduced to football nation to Michael Turner.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8062970721904697489&q=turner+indianapolis+colts&total=5&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 yea I was in FLORIDA visiting my mother when that game happened we went to visit my brother so I MISSED the game but when we heard the chargers had won my son and I yelled and scared the hell out of my stepfather who was driving. that night I WENT TO A SPORTS BAR with my nephews wearing my GATES throwback, I walked in and a bunch of DOLPHIN fans started cheering!!!!!!! They bought me a BEER AND started praising the BOLTS for saving thier undefeated record that was the strangest night of my life

[GoTomlinson]

yea I was in FLORIDA visiting my mother when that game happened we went to visit my brother so I MISSED the game but when we heard the chargers had won my son and I yelled and scared the hell out of my stepfather who was driving. that night I WENT TO A SPORTS BAR with my nephews wearing my GATES throwback, I walked in and a bunch of DOLPHIN fans started cheering!!!!!!! They bought me a BEER AND started praising the BOLTS for saving thier undefeated record that was the strangest night of my life

Whoa whoa whoa, I was in FL as well and at a sports bar. I was watching the game with a dozen or so Dolphins fans, and this particular Dolphin's fan in a Dolphin's hawaiin shirt bought me as a beer as well. Had I known that beer would have led to many others I would have started drinking hours before.

[Texas lightning]

Whoa whoa whoa, I was in FL as well and at a sports bar. I was watching the game with a dozen or so Dolphins fans, and this particular Dolphin's fan in a Dolphin's hawaiin shirt bought me as a beer as well. Had I known that beer would have led to many others I would have started drinking hours before.yea that peticular night the FINS were loving the bolts, we'll probally never see that again.

[GoTomlinson]

yea that peticular night the FINS were loving the bolts, we'll probally never see that again.

Going back to Michael Turner I recall that same Hawaiin t-shirt, southern accent Dolphins' fan asking me, ''Hey that's not LT, who is that running back''

''That is Michael Turner sir.'' The name has forever remained familiar up until this day.

[Texas lightning]

yea I for one will be sad to see him go next year I really hope he can pick up a ring this year as a going away present.

[LAbolt]

Green Bay... 1st round... http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/06/25/could-chargers-still-trade-michael-turner/

The NFL is a buisness anything is possible you never know.

[Texas lightning]

The NFL is a buisness anything is possible you never know.DUDE turner is not going anywhere till next year that's why AJ put such a high price on his head before the draft because he knew not many teams would give up a first and a third round pick for him. AJ IS GOING TO KEEP HIM AS LONG AS HE CAN. next year he goes shopping on his own.

[JoeMcRugby]

The NFL is a buisness anything is possible you never know.

AJ turned down two teams' offers of 2008 first round picks before he pronounced "Turner is now a Charger for 2007. Don't call me.

There's a zero chance that he now takes the same deal he turned down two months ago.

Teams will have to pony up a monstrous deal to get AJ's attention. A 1st round pick in 2008 does nothing to help the Bolts win rings in 2007.

[Pot Roast]

Whoa whoa whoa, I was in FL as well and at a sports bar. I was watching the game with a dozen or so Dolphins fans, and this particular Dolphin's fan in a Dolphin's hawaiin shirt bought me as a beer as well. Had I known that beer would have led to many others I would have started drinking hours before.

That makes you two soul mates. get a room!

[BoltsfanNYC]

I think it would take a big offer a first and a 4th or better...

[Sirbob]

Turner came to us as a 5th, but his current value to us is 1-3
We are making The run for the superbowl. Novr will use that 6.3 yards per carry all day and night, and LT will be in the slot or 2 back set. we will BLOW out teams using the Burner.

After week 2 the league will crown us.
We need MT to do this.
Between the 2 backs I say we will get 3000 yards

[JCDavey]

thought of aj smith coldly telling other teams turner is off the block, even if their rb gets hurt, when i saw this little piece on kffl.com


Packers | Morency out 2-4 weeks
Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:34:23 -0700
Charles Robinson, of Yahoo! Sports, reports Green Bay Packers RB Vernand Morency (knee) is out two to four weeks with a strained knee.

[gazork]

Turner is more valuable to us than ever, given the potential uncertain WR situation. The Chargers could be running fools this year - I expect to see much more of Turner in 2007.

[BoltsfanNYC]

if greenbay offers a fitst and a third we have to BITE.... and then we have pinnock... gross.... ME.... and sproles until we get mcfadden next year wink wink...

[rcali bolt hed]

"My message to the other clubs is, 'Even in minicamp when people get hurt, even in training camp when people get hurt and even during the regular season when running backs get hurt, don't call us [about Turner].' He's not available. He's a San Diego Charger. All parties are happy, so that's it," Smith said.(I think this about sums it up)

[JoeMcRugby]

if greenbay offers a fitst and a third we have to BITE.... and then we have pinnock... gross.... ME.... and sproles until we get mcfadden next year wink wink...

That was the price before the draft - when the Chargers would have received somebody who would have contributed to the team in 2007.

2008 picks don't help the team in 2007. The price has gone up - a 1st and 3rd price before the draft isn't enough on the eve of the season.

A Herschell Walker-like trade offer? Then AJ might not hang up and laugh in your face when you come begging for Turner after you passed him up in April.

[CBO]

I dont think AJ will go back on his word. But Sprolles might be available

[williammg]

they could trade him

they could trade LT too

anything's possible
actually, no i don't believe it is possible that LT would get traded, i think fans would boycott, burndown the stadium, possible lynch some people from the front office if the anyone mentioned it

[sonorajim]

I think it would take a big offer a first and a 4th or better...
We might deal for the guy Detroit got with their 1st in '07 and their '08 3rd.

[Texas lightning]

why does does this keep coming up I thout we had already put this to bed. FACE IT THE GUY IS NO LONGER ON THE BLOCK.NORV is already putting in alot of plays that include him to do so would screw up his game plan.

[BoltsfanNYC]

OK... don't tie me up and burn me down but I would trade LT for.... Ed Reed and Ravens RB and there 1st and the coach.

[JoeMcRugby]

OK... don't tie me up and burn me down but I would trade LT for.... Ed Reed and Ravens RB and there 1st and the coach.

Leave McGahee and the coach out of the deal - and you got yourself a deal.

Unlike 2008 draft picks, Ed Reed just might be able to make a contribution in 2007. ;)

[HeadTrip]

Leave McGahee and the coach out of the deal - and you got yourself a deal.

Unlike 2008 draft picks, Ed Reed just might be able to make a contribution in 2007. ;)

You would trade LT for Reed and a #1? Since when did you lose your mind, Joe??

[ChargersFan55]

can we trade turner at the end of the season for an early draft pick, and get glenn Dorsey.

[HeadTrip]

can we trade turner at the end of the season for an early draft pick, and get glenn Dorsey.

We will have to franchise tag him with the intention of trading him, but it could be done. I'm sure our front office will fully explore that option.

[JoeMcRugby]

You would trade LT for Reed and a #1? Since when did you lose your mind, Joe??

Ouch.

The thread was about Turner, so without reading carefully I thought the proposed trade was about Turner.

In the immortal words of SNL's Emily Latella: "Never mind."

[HeadTrip]

Ouch.

The thread was about Turner, so without reading carefully I thought the proposed trade was about Turner.

In the immortal words of SNL's Emily Latella: "Never mind."

I figured that's what happened but it's impossible to tell for sure on the internet. I'd take Reed for Turner straight up, in fact I would throw in a 4th rounder as well. Of course, Baltimore's front office would have to lose their minds temporarily for that to happen. :Beer::Bolt:

[shaun4505]

3rd down and 1, 4th down and 1, I dare say i'd prefer Michael Turner with the rock than LT.
Keep Turner, the price for a superbowl run is a lot greater than some #1 pick. We've got 10 guys starting with picks well below the 1st round, we dont need it as much as we need Turner.

[GoTomlinson]

3rd down and 1, 4th down and 1, I dare say i'd prefer Michael Turner with the rock than LT.
Keep Turner, the price for a superbowl run is a lot greater than some #1 pick. We've got 10 guys starting with picks well below the 1st round, we dont need it as much as we need Turner.

The Chargers always convert with LT. Just think about all the goal line touchdowns LT accumulates and it will help remind you how well he does. Besides, with LT out there, you don't know if they will pass it or if LT will throw the ball.