Chargers Players Appearances and Autograph Thread # 3

[Meanz business]

does anyone know which style of the schutt helmet LT wears?

Schutt Air Advantage

[pete R0Q]

^^ thanks for the info!

[pete R0Q]

so im gonna get that Schutt's helmet, now what about the decals for it?

[Charger31]

what about the facemask? do they sell it? I just see the helmet.

[xtra-innings]

In an effort to cut down on the number of posts made on this and the Padres Player Appearances thread, I have created a TTM Signatures thread where we can share info and photos of mailbox successes. I also posted web info for various sites which I use on a regular basis.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=55039

The new thread should off-set this one and reduce the number of pages originally intended for this and the Padres Player Appearances thread by keeping it only to player appearances and (in person) autograph experiences.

[pete R0Q]

You can get decals both on ebay and from RealStuff.


I was looking on RealStuff, and can't seem to find the decals...

[jlloyd]

These are the ones I bought. Only the 21 on the back isnt with it. Still looking for them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CHARGERS-CURRENT-FULL-SIZE-FOOTBALL-HELMET-DECALS_W0QQitemZ360030650347QQihZ023QQcategoryZ212 22QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742.m153.l1262

[pete R0Q]

just got an email back from RealStuff, they dont sell the decals.

[jlloyd]

I am probably missing it but I cant find the clearance page or the numbers....do you happen to know where in the page it is?

[pete R0Q]

i cant seem to find the clearance page either

[jlloyd]

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hey guys, do they make visors/ eye shields to put on mini helmets, if so where can i find them



I have seen them for sale on mini on ebay but not seperately

[Charger31]

uhh i wouldn't know much but i think so. if u really want one call Oakley!

[jlloyd]

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cant find it

[jlloyd]

took me a while but finally found it....man I must have looked over it a dozen times. Thanks
WOW they want 30 bucks for the numbers and shipping

[pete R0Q]

let me know if you find some

[jlloyd]

I am going to buy a set and have my friend help me make them. He deals with this type of material all the time so after I get all the decals together I will start offering a package including all decals. That ends up being too much all said and done. Again I will keep everyone informed.

[xtra-innings]

After several threaders tried to reduce the number of pages on this thread from non-autograph related banter, it appears as though it has now become more of an on-line chat session rather than info about autograph appearances and/or successes. If info needs to be shared between threaders, we should PM each other so others don't have to search page after page for info related to player appearances and/or cancellations.

I applaud jlloyd for his hard work on the LT facemask and see that he has created a thread (http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=55026) devoted to his latest creation. All info related to helmet/facemask designs, purchases, logos, etc. may be better suited for that thread.

Cheers so everyone and here's looking to future Bolt signings (not cancellations). :Cheers:

[jlloyd]

on that note then I have great luck at Lake tahoe Pro am...LT is there as well as Jordan. In previous replys you can see my jordan. It is worth it.

[pete R0Q]

someone told me that phillip rivers will be at the escondido city hall next saturday at 8 AM... haven't been able to confirm it yet.. anyone else know anything?

[Charger31]

someone told me that phillip rivers will be at the escondido city hall next saturday at 8 AM... haven't been able to confirm it yet.. anyone else know anything?
REALLY???? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM!!!

[CrimeTime31]

someone told me that phillip rivers will be at the escondido city hall next saturday at 8 AM... haven't been able to confirm it yet.. anyone else know anything?

This might be it? - http://www.sharingthetreasures.org/

[pete R0Q]

This might be it? - http://www.sharingthetreasures.org/


ah.. it says wait list only... wonder if he'll sign things there...

[LARGEnCHARGE]

ah.. it says wait list only... wonder if he'll sign things there...

In the NAME of JESUS!!! Give me MY AUTOGRAPH!!! LOL---good luck...

[xtra-innings]

I know there's a separate TTM thread but I just wanted to share with the rest of the bolt faithful the following HOF CHARGERS success (home address)::14:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/xtra-innings_authentics/Chargers%20Padres%20Thread/100_4462.jpg

[mvandor]

I know there's a separate TTM thread but I just wanted to share with the rest of the bolt faithful the following HOF CHARGERS success (home address)::14:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/xtra-innings_authentics/Chargers%20Padres%20Thread/100_4462.jpg

Wow, you scored a free signed Fouts jersey by mailing to his home? Amazing. PM me that address my man and tell me your begging technique!!!

[jlloyd]

I second that. Can PM me as well, that is sweet!!

[SDFAN08]

Has anyone heard any new info on the Cromartie signing at F.O.D?

[sd-collectibles]

Wow, you scored a free signed Fouts jersey by mailing to his home? Amazing. PM me that address my man and tell me your begging technique!!!

ditto for me.......:LightsOut:

[loumud]

Hi everyone,

I have a 2006 Ladainian Tomlinson powder blue Reebok authentic home jersey size 52 available. I bought this on eBay several months ago from another user that had excellent feedback. He advertised it as an authentic, worn jersey (not game used) without the tags, but fully guaranteed it to be 100% authentic – the same ones that sold in the team store for $300+! I wasn’t sure about the sizing, but picked it up anyway since it was a great deal. I figured if it didn’t fit me I would just get it signed later. When I received it the jersey fit me like a dress! So, I planned on getting it signed later on. Shortly afterwards, I found another auction on eBay for an identical jersey already signed that I couldn’t pass up, so I bought it. That one had the tags attached, and I compared it to this jersey. They were identical in every way!
Anyway, I’ve had this jersey the back of my closet for several months, and I figure it is time to find a good home for it. I guarantee this to be 100% authentic, and I invite the potential buyer to inspect it in person before any money changes hands. The only thing of note on the jersey is that there is some slight creasing on the number ‘2’ on the back. This is on account of how the seller folded the jersey in the packaging when he sent it out to me. I’m fairly certain it could be ironed out eventually, but I didn’t want to mess with it and risk staining the jersey. Other than that, I think the jersey would still fare perfectly well if you decided to get it signed, and would be great to wear on your own during the season!
I’m asking for $125 for it, OBO. You definitely won’t be disappointed with it! Again, I’m listing this as a ‘worn’ jersey, although I certify that I have never personally worn it out in public (other than to try it on when it arrived). The jersey has all appropriate Reebok stitched tagging, numbering and letters, and also has the reinforced material on the shoulders to accommodate shoulder pads. This is the style jersey he wore during his record-breaking MVP year in 2006! I condensed some photos on here for you, but please feel free to e-mail me if you would like to more close-up photos. You can e-mail me at: loumud@yahoo.com (loumud@yahoo.com).

Thanks!


http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll57/loumud/LT%20pics/LT10.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll57/loumud/LT%20pics/LT11.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll57/loumud/LT%20pics/LT12.jpg

[chonrsinway8]

Don't wanna be a d***, but that jersey isn't an authentic jersey. It is ridiculously close, but not an authentic.

[BoltzR1]

Anyone heard anything from F.O.D? :mad:
Any dates yet for the Cromartie signing??????? :layup

Hmmmmm

Is this still the Players Appearance and Autograph Thread????
I could have sworn i just logged off from EBAY.....:nono:

[jlloyd]

if it is that close that you really cant tell than you either need to be a fool or moron. To me; the difference between 40 and 200 is 160......uh....I don’t know is it close enough. Is it worth the difference, you decide.

[Franchize78]

Anyone know when Chargers Camp is open to the public?..

[chonrsinway8]

last year, mini camp was like a week after the draft and training camp was around the end of july until late august.

[loumud]

if it is that close that you really cant tell than you either need to be a fool or moron. To me; the difference between 40 and 200 is 160......uh....I don’t know is it close enough. Is it worth the difference, you decide.

Wow! I certainly apologize if I've ruffled some feathers on this forum among some 'experts' by listing this item for sale. I've seen a lot of other threads offering autograph-related items for sale including items to be autographed in the future and autograph tickets, so I didn't think it would be a big deal. In any case, please dispregard my post. The money is not worth the hate and animosity unnecessarily generated by some members of this forum...

[SouthernCalBolt]

Maybe instead of jumping down this guys throat you could give him tips on spotting a fake for next time. And why is it such a big deal if he posts a jersey for sale, I recall cromartie pics signed and unsigned being offered a week or so ago, as well as other things. Could you possibly make someone feel less welcomed?! Calm down people.

[loumud]

Thank you for that, SouthernCalBolt. I agree, if there's anything blatantly wrong with this jersey I definitely welcome the feedback for my sake and for the benefit of other members of this forum. With the exorbitant prices being commanded for authentic jerseys by the team store and other venues, it's definitely helpful to know how to differentiate between real items and fakes. I did plenty of research prior to purchasing this item on ebay and still believe that it's the real deal. But, I don't tout myself as an expert, and rely a lot on the reputation and feedback of the sellers of many of the items I purchase. I have seen other 'authentic' items offered on ebay, even from local San Diego sellers that had tags attached, and have looked at many in person. And, on several occasions I have been able to identify blaring differences between authentic items sold in the team store and fakes sold from these same sellers. So, any constructive criticism on my jersey is welcomed...

[chonrsinway8]

Calm down. I simply told this guy that his jersey wasn't authentic. I could have laughed and really poured it on, but I just wanted to let him know his jersey wasn't authentic.

1. The bolts on the shoulder are off in terms of color and consistency. In the second picture down that you posted, you can see the bolt on the left shoulder and the bolt on the right shoulder are not the same shape.

2. I'm not sure about this one, so I'll have to take a look when I get home, but I'm almost certain that the "Reebok" on the inside tag and also the tag at the bottom of the jersey have a capital "R" as opposed to a lower-case "r." Also, I think the word "Reebok" on the inside tag is blue as opposed to red, while the "Reebok" on the bottom of the jersey is grey as opposed to red.

That's all I can really say from the pics that you've posted. When I got my powder blue authentic, I studied the hell out of that thing to see what the differences are between mine and the fakes.

[loumud]

Calm down. I simply told this guy that his jersey wasn't authentic. I could have laughed and really poured it on, but I just wanted to let him know his jersey wasn't authentic.

1. The bolts on the shoulder are off in terms of color and consistency. In the second picture down that you posted, you can see the bolt on the left shoulder and the bolt on the right shoulder are not the same shape.

2. I'm not sure about this one, so I'll have to take a look when I get home, but I'm almost certain that the "Reebok" on the inside tag and also the tag at the bottom of the jersey have a capital "R" as opposed to a lower-case "r." Also, I think the word "Reebok" on the inside tag is blue as opposed to red, while the "Reebok" on the bottom of the jersey is grey as opposed to red.

That's all I can really say from the pics that you've posted. When I got my powder blue authentic, I studied the hell out of that thing to see what the differences are between mine and the fakes.

Now this is some good info! Thanks for submitting this, chonrsinway8. If you could confirm these details with your authentic jersey later on, that would be great. In any case, the evidence seems to point towards my jersey not being authentic, so I'll withdraw any previous assertion that it is real. In any case, it's a pretty good-quality knock off so I'm glad I didn't pay much for it when I bought it!

[FlipTreeJ]

When the hell did this thread become THIS focused on name-calling? No offense, jlloyd, but where do you get off calling someone in this thread a moron or fool because they mistakenly bought something they thought was an authentic jersey?

My point being, I reiterate, this thread is an informational thread. It should be informational for everyone involved. No one on this thread is better than anyone else. We're all here to learn and share information, not to be cut down and called idiots.

[aurelio]

anyways.... i just checked the chargers.com web site and they posted the mini camp days. heres the link: http://www.chargers.com/news/events/event_20080324.htm

[aurelio]

i also bought a fake jersey once. ill give you a few pointers. i have a real and fake jersey and i compared the two.
if the jersey still has the tags, take a look at the tag. i noticed that my fake jersey has misspelled words. fooball is spelled "foetball", and "international" is spelled wrong. also, look at the nfl logo on the collar. take a look at the football. the real jerseys have the stiches on the football, the fake jersey has a streight line with no stiches. also, on the back of the fooball, (still looking at the logo on the collar) there should be 2 stars behind the top of the football. my fake jersey did not have the two stars behind the logo. sometimes, i have seen jerseys that the bolts are facing the wrong way or are of different color than the real bolts. what i do is go on a credible web site that sells jerseys like nfl.com or chargers.com and compare. also, one more thing, the cuffs on the fake jersey are all wrinkled before the spandex sleve. its like it was stuffed in there. my real jersey's sleves are unwrinkled going into the spandex of the sleeve. i hope i described efficiently. i hope this helped for anyone that was planning of getting a jersey.
on a side note, i am comparing a fake jersey with a real one. i have both on hand and if i am inaccurate in some of my information, them i apologize. i am just going off what im looking at. hope this helps.

[Bolt Cola]

i know a lot of people get their jersey's autographed, but arguing about whether or not a jersey is real or not really doesn't fit with this thread. Last time I checked this thread was supposed to be about Player Appearances and Autographs....sharing pics about signed jerseys or a jersey you are having signed is ok, but all of this this Jersey talk belongs in the Jersey thread. I know that there are plenty of those out there if you look for them...lets try and get this thread back on track

[LARGEnCHARGE]

To get back on subject, I'd like to get a FOD update as well. I dropped about $500 putting together two detailed Cro helmets for the signing, now I'm dangling on the deal.

Any chance you could post a pic of your two helmets? I made a cro helmet as well...thanks

[Kerrstyn]

Has anyone heard any new info on the Cromartie signing at F.O.D?


Hello guys! Just to let you know that we have finally heard back via email from the signing agent yesterday. Unfortunately, the guy only told us that he would have a date to us by the end of the week. Hopefully he is able to pull this off. We will be making all calls and I will update all of you on here AS SOON AS we know ANYTHING!
Have a good weekend!

[Meanz business]

This is a great site for those interested in nit-picking authentics & knock-off jerseys: http://www.thumper300zx.com/jersey/fake_vs_real.htm

[FLASH21]

When I was leaving walmart in chula vista I notice a sign that said cro will be appearing there March 29 betwwen 1200-1300 hours. Its the one off of broadway next to costco. I was in a rush and couldnt get anymore info. there number is 619-591-4910.

Bobby

[ScootMagroot]

Ill believe it when i see it, but if it is true, i wonder if FOD is going to be giving refunds....lol

[Meanz business]

Thanks I updated the first page. I usually only go the first Saturday morning practice. It's the most busy but also the most players signing. Have people had luck at the Saturday afternoon or Sunday morning sessions?

I attended last years mini camp on Saturday evening & Sunday morning. It was one of my first attempts at getting autographs & I walked away pretty happy. I got about 7-10 players that weekend.
A word of caution to 1st timers: Mini camp is attended by quite a few free agents/non draft picks. And those guys love to sign anything they can get their hands on. So be weary of players/athletes you don't recognize, lol.

[2airisdevin3]

Can anyone else confirm this?

When I was leaving walmart in chula vista I notice a sign that said cro will be appearing there March 29 betwwen 1200-1300 hours. Its the one off of broadway next to costco. I was in a rush and couldnt get anymore info. there number is 619-591-4910.

Bobby

[xXCharger BoyXx]

When I was leaving walmart in chula vista I notice a sign that said cro will be appearing there March 29 betwwen 1200-1300 hours. Its the one off of broadway next to costco. I was in a rush and couldnt get anymore info. there number is 619-591-4910.

Bobby
Ima Call To Find Out, Thnx For The Tip:LightsOut:

[BoltFan73]

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w144/bbriang43/croappearance.jpg

[ScootMagroot]

im not convinced....FOD has been rescheduled what...3 times now and thats paid

[LARGEnCHARGE]

very true scoot...but WALMART IS WAY BIGGER THAN FOD!!!! MOney talks, bulldonkey walks...

[AztecMaverick]

I called...
12-1 in the garden section... outside items allowed...

[SouthernCalBolt]

Whoever said that FoD can legally get away with not giving refunds if the signing is canceled because of something on their reciepts that says no refunds after 30 days or all sales are final is very wrong. My dads a lawyer, he said them selling the tickets and us buying the tickets constitutes a legally binding contract in CA. They can print whatever they want on their reciepts or have any policy they so choose but that does not change the law in this state and it does not release them from the contract. If they plan on not giving refunds and not having the signing I will personally sue them for breech, trust me, if anyone who has anything to do with FoD operations knows anything about business law they will not try to screw everyone. If they do they will cease to exist as a business.

[LARGEnCHARGE]

wallyworld would squash cro's little world if he backed out...i don't see it happening...therefore, i will make the trip...sounds like FOD didn't satisfy

[AztecMaverick]

Whoever said that FoD can legally get away with not giving refunds if the signing is canceled because of something on their reciepts that says no refunds after 30 days or all sales are final is very wrong. My dads a lawyer, he said them selling the tickets and us buying the tickets constitutes a legally binding contract in CA. They can print whatever they want on their reciepts or have any policy they so choose but that does not change the law in this state and it does not release them from the contract. If they plan on not giving refunds and not having the signing I will personally sue them for breech, trust me, if anyone who has anything to do with FoD operations knows anything about business law they will not try to screw everyone. If they do they will cease to exist as a business.

It would cost more to sue them than it would be to get your refund...

take a breather...

[Bolt Cola]

depending on what on I can get signed at Walmart...I may also still attend the FOD signing unless he has officially cancelled

[chonrsinway8]

My luck is horrid, my daughter has a horse show in Vista that day so I can't haul my 2 Cro helmets for signing that day. Grrr. Sure hope FOD comes through!

[img src="http://simpworld.com/cro.jpg" border="1" alt="" /]

HMM, APPARENTLY I NEED HELP ON POSTING AN IMAGE...

here you go:

http://simpworld.com/cro.jpg


By the way, where did you get that chinstrap?

[sd-collectibles]

mvandor - Great helmet!

[jlloyd]

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When the hell did this thread become THIS focused on name-calling? No offense, jlloyd, but where do you get off calling someone in this thread a moron or fool because they mistakenly bought something they thought was an authentic jersey?

My point being, I reiterate, this thread is an informational thread. It should be informational for everyone involved. No one on this thread is better than anyone else. We're all here to learn and share information, not to be cut down and called idiots.


I am sorry if I made it seem as though I was calling anyone an idiot or a moroon....that was not my intentions at all. I was simply trying to say that, to me, the difference in 180 to 40. that was what I was trying to say, to me the difference in cost is worth it for a good fake. Sorry if I came across as an A@#.

[ScootMagroot]

that helmet looks nice. the only thing that sucks, is the real bolts are hard to find. the light blue is too light. I have the same ones on my helmet. the funny thing is, the first person to notice was Luis Castillo

[LARGEnCHARGE]

hey scoot..you're right..i have the same bolts you do...riddell helmets have the darker bolts on them...guess it's ok to have them as a temp placement until we find the real ones...beware the fake sean taylor decals as well....

[mvandor]

here you go:

http://simpworld.com/cro.jpg


By the way, where did you get that chinstrap?

It's an easily obtainable Adams hard cup hi point chinstrap. LT wears it as well. Because of contractual issues with the NFL, Riddell actually imprints their name on them for the Chargers (in blue) and other teams - and those are virtually impossible to obtain outside an NFL locker room.

Light blue on the bolts looks lighter in the photo, I actually obtained two sets of decals on ebay from different sellers, the other was much darker. As best I could tell from photo matching on Getty, this lighter set was closer. The darker set went on the other (less accurate) Cro helmet I built from a shell I had at home. If I ever get him to sign them I'll ask him which color is closer as I can easily replace either. BTW, an expert told me the real bolts are also narrower than the copies or the Riddell retail helmets.

As for the Taylor decal, of course ALL out there are "fakes", I actually bought one before this one that was less consistent with the real ones the Chargers wore, this copy is pretty close.

Thanks for photo help guys, BTW.

[ScootMagroot]

the best way to check on the color of the light blue on the helmet from what i have seen, is just looking at one of your mini helmets

[LARGEnCHARGE]

It's an easily obtainable Adams hard cup hi point chinstrap. LT wears it as well. Because of contractual issues with the NFL, Riddell actually imprints their name on them for the Chargers (in blue) and other teams - and those are virtually impossible to obtain outside an NFL locker room.

Light blue on the bolts looks lighter in the photo, I actually obtained two sets of decals on ebay from different sellers, the other was much darker. As best I could tell from photo matching on Getty, this lighter set was closer. The darker set went on the other (less accurate) Cro helmet I built from a shell I had at home. If I ever get him to sign them I'll ask him which color is closer as I can easily replace either. BTW, an expert told me the real bolts are also narrower than the copies or the Riddell retail helmets.

As for the Taylor decal, of course ALL out there are "fakes", I actually bought one before this one that was less consistent with the real ones the Chargers wore, this copy is pretty close.

Thanks for photo help guys, BTW.

yes, most of the s.t. decals on ebay are ridiculously fake...they are round and fat..where the real one is blocky and tall..the one on your helmet is the real one....i still need shockblockers too..

[Kerrstyn]

Hey. This is Kerrstyn at FOD again. I'm feeling that you guys are being a bit harsh in your threads.

The disclaimer at the bottom of your receipt is for general merchandise. That is automatically printed on every receipt. IF Cro cancels, EVERYONE that presents a receipt for their purchased tickets will get a refund. We are not trying to take advantage of any of you in this situation. Don't you think that this is bad PR for us already, and then not to give refunds would be even worse!

We email and call his rep on a daily basis and we have the head of the Dreams Corporation handling this now as well. We are doing everything on our part to get him in here for you guys. I promise, we are just as frustrated with this as you are. We are giving you guys all of the information that we have. We are not holding anything back.

If you can get him at Wal Mart, more power to you. Hopefully he shows up for them. Also, Wal Mart is a humongous corporation, obviously, they can offer more to their customers than we can.

Please guys, I know you are frustrated, just give us a break. We are doing ALL we can. Thank you again to all of you out there that are being patient with us! We do appreciate it. As soon as we know ANYTHING, you will know also!

[harrid4]

Hey. This is Kerrstyn at FOD again. I'm feeling that you guys are being a bit harsh in your threads.

The disclaimer at the bottom of your receipt is for general merchandise. That is automatically printed on every receipt. IF Cro cancels, EVERYONE that presents a receipt for their purchased tickets will get a refund. We are not trying to take advantage of any of you in this situation. Don't you think that this is bad PR for us already, and then not to give refunds would be even worse!

We email and call his rep on a daily basis and we have the head of the Dreams Corporation handling this now as well. We are doing everything on our part to get him in here for you guys. I promise, we are just as frustrated with this as you are. We are giving you guys all of the information that we have. We are not holding anything back.

If you can get him at Wal Mart, more power to you. Hopefully he shows up for them. Also, Wal Mart is a humongous corporation, obviously, they can offer more to their customers than we can.

Please guys, I know you are frustrated, just give us a break. We are doing ALL we can. Thank you again to all of you out there that are being patient with us! We do appreciate it. As soon as we know ANYTHING, you will know also!


Thanks for the update Kerrstyn. Unfortunately, there are a select few individuals that have taken things too far on this board. Please know that there are some of us that understand the nature of the business and appreciate your updates (and frustrations). FOD has always been very upfront about offering refunds after each postponement, so I have never had any concerns.

I, for one, still prefer the FOD signing over the Wal-Mart free for all that will ensue this weekend. I will hold out hope that FOD will get this squared away with CRO's reps and will put on a great event.

[Meanz business]

that helmet looks nice. the only thing that sucks, is the real bolts are hard to find. the light blue is too light. I have the same ones on my helmet. the funny thing is, the first person to notice was Luis Castillo

Not only the decals, but that helmet looks Gloss White. The Chargers use a Pearl White.

[Monty Montezuma]

After several threaders tried to reduce the number of pages on this thread from non-autograph related banter, it appears as though it has now become more of an on-line chat session rather than info about autograph appearances and/or successes. If info needs to be shared between threaders, we should PM each other so others don't have to search page after page for info related to player appearances and/or cancellations.

I applaud jlloyd for his hard work on the LT facemask and see that he has created a thread (http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=55026) devoted to his latest creation. All info related to helmet/facemask designs, purchases, logos, etc. may be better suited for that thread.

Cheers so everyone and here's looking to future Bolt signings (not cancellations). :Cheers:

It looks like this thread has again become an on-line chat session about helmets, decals, and lawsuits. Maybe we can have Random post the phone # for the Pacific Law Center on the home page...

[mvandor]

Not only the decals, but that helmet looks Gloss White. The Chargers use a Pearl White.

Reticent to respond since it's contributing to the thread drifting off topic, but if you're referring to my helmet, it is a pearl white Schutt Advantage.

Appreciate the FOD update, I know my name is on your list as I spoke directly with Mark on the phone as well as in the store, however, I don't believe I have a receipt as I paid by faxing a credit card form to your store.

Thanks again though for the update, Kerstyn, I don't blame FOD, our friend Cro has cancelled 3 out of 4 of his recent signing commitments, will be interesting if he shows at Walmart and your date when rescheduled.

[xtra-innings]

In the coming months, mini and training camps will begin. As a suggestion, threaders may want to start deleting old and obsolete posts (I did and cleared up x3 pages) so it makes it easier for everyone to follow and find info about player sigs and appearances. There were many old pages where photos were removed and now, all it contains are empty pix boxes. Again...just a suggestion...

See you guys at the signing...:Cheers:

[christophersprw]

thanks i just deleted 30 posts

[BoltzR1]

THANKS F.O.D for the update, i will patiently wait....:cool:

For now... Is there anyone from the Riverside area going to the Cro's appearance at the Chula Vista WALMART this weekend?

I plan on going and thinking if anyone is interested in carpooling for those who lives in the 951 area?

Just a thought since gas prices nowadays is insane! :LightsOut:

[dean619]

for the cro signing, is it the chula vista walmart right next to bestbuy off the 54 exit? anyone have the address? much appreciated. thanks!

[gochargers.21]

What time you guys heading over to Wallys World on Sat? This will be my first free Charger signing in awhile

[christophersprw]

i was thinking the same thing, i am thinking 9, is that to early to late to secure a garentd. auto

[ChargersFan55]

If anybody has the chance, ask Cro if he's gonna show up at FOD.

[gochargers.21]

Good lord 3 hours before? I was thinking like an hour haha. How early did people show for the PR, VJ, Osgood signing at that sports store? I guess that might be different though since it was a weekday.

[ScootMagroot]

i dont know about 3 hours. i have a baseball game so i am probably gonna try and go, but wont be there til the end. who knows if ill make it.

[BoltzR1]

Im looking at being there @ 10am (2 hrs)...What are you guys bringing to get signed ???:layup Is there a limit on what you can bring ???:LightsOut:

[LARGEnCHARGE]

I will be there around 9-10am I plan on bringing 3 8x10's and maybe a jersey...Anyone have a Schutt FSU helmet they want to sell? lol

[AztecMaverick]

Just to let you know... even though it doesnt hurt to ask... he will probably do one per because he will onl be there 1 hr and he will soon have a paid obligation...

[LARGEnCHARGE]

Lets see how many people actually show up...His Fod signing sold how many tix? they were amping that up on the radio and still didn't sell out the tix...I'm hoping for a smaller crowd than we are thinking...

[gochargers.21]

Id love to bring my helmet, jersey, and the INT pix but I have a feeling its 1 per person. Doesnt hurt to bring all I guess. Id feel bad for the ppl behind me. I wouldnt want other ppl hoarding all his time either

[SouthernCalBolt]

I think its not going to be as busy as everyone thinks. Remember when luis castillo did a free signing at touchdowns in chula vista (a hispanic player in a largely hispanic area) it wasn't nearly the turnout anyone thought. I got there a half hour early and was 19th in line. I could be wrong tho, I'm gonna try to get there around 10am with a jersey, full size helmet and team ball, I would guess its gonna be 1 per but like others said it never hurts to be prepared either way. Can anyone confirm the address since I'll be using navigation to find this place, also is anyone planning on calling around closing the night before to confirm he's showing up? I'd assume if he was going to cancel it would at least be the day before. Also, I will for sure ask cro whats up with the field of dreams signing although Im almost positive he'll say he doesn't know, agents really deal with that, but I'll ask none the less. If anyone is gonna get there around 10 wants to meet up let me know, it be cool to have someone to hang out with for 2 hours, haha.

[christophersprw]

i am bringing my 16x20 toget signed, i do believe it ill be i per person, one hour isnt alot, he could prob go threw 100 peoplei think in that time span

[ny10s]

HI SouthernCalBolt (http://forums.chargers.com/member.php?u=72062), YOU WONT BE ALONE, i TOO HOPE NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE SHOW UP, BUT THAT SAID, I WILL BE THERE ABOUT 10AM ALSO

[FlipTreeJ]

I think I'll be showing up at around 10am. Should be a fun.

[dean619]

Sorry I meant to look up the address and put it on the 1st page. I *think* this is it:

Saturday March 29
12pm - 1pm
Antonio Cromartie will be at the Wal Mart in Chula Vista (off Broadway)
1150 Broadway
Chula Vista (S), CA 91911
(619) 591-4910


good looking out. thanks RandomTask!

[mvandor]

If our man Cro blows off Walmart that makes him a no show 3 out of his last 4 scheduled signing events I believe. We would have to recommend him for an episode of "Without A Trace".

:)

[SouthernCalBolt]

Maybe cro has a fear of commitment haha. Thank you random for the address, I'll be showin up around 10, but since I wont recognise anyone and I dont have anyones number if you see a big guy with a shaved head and a full size come say whats up! See everyone there.

[jonathanvictory]

man, i havent been to a signing in months. and yet im busy again this weekend. have fun everyone! take pics!

[Schiess]

I got to the Rivers/Jackson/Osgood signing more than 2 hours in advance, and there were probably 30-40 people ahead of me in line (correct me if I'm wrong, AzMav...that's where I met you). I'll be there no later than 10 for Cro, and hope he doesn't cancel again...it's a LONG drive from Temecula, and I'm taking a day off from work. I'll be the ugly long-haired guy with the powder blue baseball style jersey with Merriman on the back. I know I'll see some of you regs down there, holler at me!!

[Meanz business]

Oh damn-
http://www.baylessfoundation.org/images/sdflyerfront.jpg
http://www.baylessfoundation.org/images/sdflyerback.jpg

[SDFAN08]

Has anyone attended one of these football camps trying to get autos? Do they let anybody in there to watch and get autos?

[ScootMagroot]

i havent but i might have to talk to martin bayless' daughter again, and see if she will get her dad to let me

[SDFAN08]

i havent but i might have to talk to martin bayless' daughter again, and see if she will get her dad to let me


Well what about the rest of us?LOL

[ScootMagroot]

i gotta look out for myself first

[FlipTreeJ]

I'm gonna attend the camp, and just pretend that I'm a really mature 12th grader! Maybe I can impress some of the pros by bucking some high school underclassmen. LOL

[xtra-innings]

Just wanted to share a Bolt HOF TTM success:

Charlie Joiner - x1card/x2 Photos (home address)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/xtra-innings_authentics/Chargers%20Padres%20Thread/cj.jpg

More info is available at the TTM Success thread. See you threaders at the next signing...

[SouthernCalBolt]

Alright well I am gonna go to the cromartie thing at walmart, I'll see everyone there, hopefully he shows! If anyone has an extra cromartie 8x10 or other size pic they wanna sell, pm me and maybe I can give you my number or something so we can meet up at walmart.

[xtra-innings]

Just got back a little while ago and it was good to see familiar faces once again: RandomTask, AztecMaverick, Bolt 73, IDntSell, SDFAN08, BoltCola and others. It was 1 item/person and security was strict (Chargers security and CVPD were even there to control the line). He started signing a little late but it was well worth it. Props to all the threaders who scored free sigs on their FS and mini helmets and various jerseys and FBs. Everyone was chatting with eachother so the wait was not that bad. See everyone at the next signing:

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee278/xtra-innings_authentics/Chargers%20Padres%20Thread/cro1.jpg

[Bolt Cola]

Just got back from the Cromartie Walmart signing, kinda crazy, not too smart having the line go down the aisle inside of Walmart but i guess they will learn from this and avoid doing so in the future. I got my 8X10 of his one handed INT signed, when I got there i was about 30th in line but the longer I waited the longer the line got in front of me and behind me. I'd say by the time I got up there i was probably more like # 70, but it came out great and it was free so that always makes it sweet. Got to meet a few new faces as well as talking to the regular guys...see you all at the next event.

[LARGEnCHARGE]

BUMMED I COULDN'T GO!!! Congrats to all who made out!

[FlipTreeJ]

Got back from the Cromartie signing a while ago, and it was very cool. Got there around 10:15am or so. Cro was about 15 minutes late, and I ended up getting to the front sometime around 1:00pm. So, the lines could've been handled better, but I guess that's what happens when you run it right through the middle of Walmart. Got to see some people from the thread (Dan, Brian G. Aurelio, Scheiss), which made time go by really fast. Got a FB signed in big, bold silver paint pen, so I'm happy.

See you guys at the next signing!

[aurelio]

got back from the cromartie signing and i got cro to sign my team helmet. personally i dont think it was properly organized. people were taking footballs from the shelves and claiming them as their own, the lines were between middle of the store and to top it off some kid asked if he could cut in line. my girl was waiting since ten for me, so she said nope. over all im happy because cro didnt cancel and i got his auto.

it was good to see some of the threaders there. see you guys at the next exciting signing adventure.

[aurelio]

just wondering about the martin bayless football camp. is anyone going? is anyone invited? i suppose that parents are invited to watch their kids right? maybe if i bring my two little sisters, thell let me in?

[jlloyd]

off topic...sorry
Got my Schutt helmet today, does anyone know how to remove the black schutt logo on the back as well as the front above the mask? Also I think I heard someone say their helmet is pearl coated not just white...is that correct?

[christophersprw]

cro signing went well, huge turnout i doubt everyone got an auto, hung out with jason i believe he goes by bolt thrower, little disorganized in line control considering the fact they had more than enough empl. and the pd. All in all had a blast! see you guys next time. here are some photos links from today


http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/cro3.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/cro2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/cro1.jpg

[mvandor]

off topic...sorry
Got my Schutt helmet today, does anyone know how to remove the black schutt logo on the back as well as the front above the mask? Also I think I heard someone say their helmet is pearl coated not just white...is that correct?

Yes, the correct Schutt is the pearl white. I had my logos removed by RealStuff but I understand you can remove the ink with products like Oops! multi-purpose remover. I bought a can but have yet to try it on my second Schutt, the one I built from a white Air II shell I had in the closet. I'll let you know how that goes.

For those that went to the Cro signing, glad to see he followed through and showed. As for me, I'm more than happy to pay $40 to FOD if what some spent as 3 hours for a freebie is cut to even 1 hour for me!

[SouthernCalBolt]

I made it out to the cro signing, it went great, was about 100th back, they cut the line the second time at the people right behind me so I lucked out. Intresting news tho, I asked cro if he was still gonna do the FoD appearance and he said no, then his agent was like where did you hear he was doing that, he declined their offers, and I said FoD is selling tickets for it, I bought one for $40! And his agent and cro were both like WHAT?!?! Cro said he told them no, his agent said he told them no a month ago, I called FoD on the way home and said I just talked to cro personally at another signing and he said he's not doing yours and never was and the guy says ummm, ummmm, we're negotiating with him. I was like bro I talked to him and his agent they both say they told you guys no they're not doing yours, he said anyone who has a ticket with a reciept come back for a refund. I look forward to kerstyn or whatevers response to this development.

[LARGEnCHARGE]

Good job socalbolt..

[SouthernCalBolt]

Well at least we know now, but that sucks, I'm gettin a jersey already and passed on getting it signed today so I could get it signed at FoD. But ya like someone else said a security guy said today that cro will be doing another appearance in april, no specifics tho.

[mvandor]

I made it out to the cro signing, it went great, was about 100th back, they cut the line the second time at the people right behind me so I lucked out. Intresting news tho, I asked cro if he was still gonna do the FoD appearance and he said no, then his agent was like where did you hear he was doing that, he declined their offers, and I said FoD is selling tickets for it, I bought one for $40! And his agent and cro were both like WHAT?!?! Cro said he told them no, his agent said he told them no a month ago, I called FoD on the way home and said I just talked to cro personally at another signing and he said he's not doing yours and never was and the guy says ummm, ummmm, we're negotiating with him. I was like bro I talked to him and his agent they both say they told you guys no they're not doing yours, he said anyone who has a ticket with a reciept come back for a refund. I look forward to kerstyn or whatevers response to this development.

Agree, I feel FOD owes some response to this development since they've chosen to address us here through an employee. Frankly, this sounds like negotiating games with us who purchased signing tickets being stuck in the middle. If FOD doesn't pull this together, I'm not just hanging for $80 for two tickets, I'm hanging for nearly $500 I spent putting two helmets together for him to sign at FOD.

Also for the record the FOD charge was actually slightly higher than Rick Radtke was charging for Cro to sign at a major show not too long prior to the last FOD date. So if there is some monetary dispute, I don't think it's because FOD was undercharging, I think it was a volume issue related to sold tickets, perhaps the huge shows simply can sell alot more tickets than a local FOD franchise.

[gochargers.21]

Went to the signing today and got there around 10:30. Had a great time and just made it past the cutoff I believe. Got my team helmet signed and my friend got my 16x20 INT signed...very very happy considering all the ish we had to go through to finally get his sig...cancelled boat show and 2 "cancelled" FOD signings. Thats crazy that Cro said they never agreed to go to FoD...wow. I guess theres 2 sides to every story but I dont see what incentive Cro would have to lie. Either way, this is definitely a PR nightmare for FOD and I would not want to be in there shoes right now

[SouthernCalBolt]

I dont think cro would lie, he has no reason too. Him and his agent were both suprised when I said FoD was selling tickets. It makes sense now tho think about it they probably had negotiations and figured they had him locked in, sold tickets, realized they were going to have to pay cro more then they anticipated, raised the price to $40, set the date figuring he'd agree, he declined, they said he had to reschedule, set the date for the 15th, they continued negotiations and once he declined they say he had to reschedule again. Isn't it weird that the first time it was canceled a date was set right away, the next time no date set? Also, didn't kerstyn say he canceled cause he had family problems or something like that? Strange then that when gatorade, a company with big money to spend, sponsers an appearance he shows no problem, it would make sense if the new date was set, but FoD still has no date. Kerstyn actually said before that his agent is not emailing them back, ya kerstyn cause they declined your offer and told your owners no. Cro toll for me is around $1000, thanks FoD, but dont worry I wont tell every single collector I know or ever meet that FoD is amatuer hour.

[gochargers.21]

Like I said before...I dont want to be FOD right now. PR nightmare

[BoltzR1]

Yeah i was also there at Walmart, got in at 920 am and it was all good... Got my helmet and Jersey signed >>> and its all for FREE and it was well worth the wait. Cro arrived at 1215 and i had a chance to meet and talk to a few threaders. It is so SAD to see others cutting in line pretending they were part of the group, and as far as group everybody from ther family and friends also showed up. I was the 28th in line with my son and i beleive i ended up close to #80-90 by the time it was my turn. It was all good though....CRO was very original and took his time signing my helmet...i said to him...you know what? YOU DA MAN !!! he smiled and said thanks and then i gave him a high five...

Any ways the plan was to stop by FOD on the way home to get my refund. It was empty (no customers) to my surprise, and when i questioned about the future date? there was a long pause as I was waiting for some other excuse.

FOD's Reply: Dunno:confused:then handed me my refund and said sorry about that and thanks for coming to FOD....

Special thanks to WALMART and GATORADE... I just saved $100 bucks and got FREE gatorade drinks.... :Bolt:

[mvandor]

I have had previous email exchanges with Mr. Jorge Salvat, the President of FOD on another matter, as well as having spoken with the franchise owner of the Fashion Valley FOD, Mark Whitney. Both have been very professional with me, however, this info from Cro and his agents is highly distressing as it at least appears we were lied to by FOD with stories that reflected negatively on Antonio. I will wait a few days for some response from Kerstyn or Mark here, but am prepared to contact Mr. Salvat regarding this if it ends up looking as though we were sold fictitious stories and non-existent commitments, then when things fell apart on the gamble, a cover story reflecting poorly on an innocent party was hatched to deal with the customers.

As I said, I spent $500 and alot of time putting together two helmets specifically for the FOD signing. Not only was I unavailable yesterday for the Walmart signing, but at 53 I refuse to get in an unsupervised free line that got out of control and spend 3 hours of my Saturday for an auto. $40 is about Cro's going rate after less than one full season as a starter, and I'm happy to pay that much to avoid a crowd.

Now it appears I have to wait for the next paid signing which could be far away at a show forcing me to get deeper in this hole with shipping expenses and missing out on the pleasure of a face to face with a player that it sounds like was very pleasant to interact with.

Not happy.

[dean619]

yo fellas. thanks again for the heads up on the cro signing at walmart. i got there at around 10:30 and was able to come out with an 8x10 int auto from BAllen. Yeah it was crazy. People cutting in line. Even caught a bunch of people paying random people money to get Cro's autograph. I was one of the last people to get his sig even after all the cutting. Here's a couple of photos from the day.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/dICON98/IMG_7127.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a386/dICON98/IMG_7120.jpg

[BOLT THROWER]

We arrived at 8:30 and were about 15th in line but by 12:20 when Cro got there, that 15 turned into 40. Their security goons were worthless. All they knew how to do was say "one per person". Chaos aside, Im stoked on my 16x20 and mini. They came out great. It was good meeting and talking to christophersprw and his cuz. Big Props to FLASH21 for tipping us off on the signing.

On the subject of FOD. I wouldn't trust them or Cro's agent(Don King with a long overdue haircut). Just get your refunds and get over it.

[FlipTreeJ]

I was starting to wonder if anyone was going to ask Cromartie or his agent about the whole FOD debacle. And if what they said is true, then FOD is probably in a world of trouble with everyone who bought a ticket.

However, I'm sorta reluctant to trust what either party is saying in this whole thing, just because this is a business involving thousands, if not millions of dollars, and business is always business. Cromartie is a great athlete, very personable to fans, does a lot of charity work, and takes time to talk to fans at signings. Don't get me wrong. But in all honesty, agents are agents, players get paid to do signings, whether it's by FOD or Gatorade. And businesses like FOD know the consequences of representing themselves unprofessionally in a high profile market.

I was lucky enough to have some free time, and attend the free signing. However, for the sakes of all the people who are currently getting shafted with the FOD tickets, I hope retribution comes soon, wither in the form of the signing, or a quick refund and apologies all around.

[FinishStrong56]

I just came from FOD today and there's no new news on when Cro will be signing. I got my refund back just in case before my 30 days.

[BoltzR1]

Heres the helmet and jersey i got signed by CRO at WALMART....:D

http://www1.pro5ive.com/hybridz/cro/cro1.jpg
http://www1.pro5ive.com/hybridz/cro/cro3.jpg
http://www1.pro5ive.com/hybridz/cro/cro2.jpg

[SouthernCalBolt]

Well when I told cro's agent that FoD was selling tickets advertising that they had already locked him in for the signing, cro looked at his agent and his agent had this look like he was gonna sue them hardcore for something or other. I seriously would doubt cro was lying, regardless of what FoD comes up with. He didn't hesitate at all when I asked him, he just said no. I was totally expecting him to just be like I'm tryin or hopefully or something like that, but obviously he's not negotiating, he's NOT doing it, and for the record, it was the agent who said cro told them no a month ago not cro himself, cro just said he's not doing it, but everything the agent told me was right infront of cro. Suprising that kerstyn hasn't responded yet, and dont worry there is no 30 days for a refund when its fraud. FoD is done.

[jlloyd]

Man, all these pics of these great sigs.....makes me jelous...wish I could have drove down there for this. Maybe next time. Nice work everyone!

[SDLT21]

Here is what i scored at the Cromartie signing yesterday. White Panel Ball, 16X20 of the int, and the jersey.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/mlsafino/cromartie003.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/mlsafino/cromartie002.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a184/mlsafino/cromartie001.jpg

[mvandor]

What happened to one per customer???

[SDLT21]

I had 2 people with me

[ScootMagroot]

u already got it framed?

[SouthernCalBolt]

"We email and call his rep on a daily basis and we have the head of the Dreams Corporation handling this now as well. We are doing everything on our part to get him in here for you guys. I promise, we are just as frustrated with this as you are. We are giving you guys all of the information that we have. We are not holding anything back.

If you can get him at Wal Mart, more power to you. Hopefully he shows up for them. Also, Wal Mart is a humongous corporation, obviously, they can offer more to their customers than we can."

"Hello! This is Kerrstyn. I'm an employee at FOD. We are just as disappointed as everyone else that Cro keeps rescheduling on us. Apparently he is having personal problems."

Just some intresting quotes from the FoD rep, I printed the full versions out and will attempt to locate cro's agent and mail them to him, I love how FoD says cro must be having personal problems, outright lie. Funny to tho that she has walmart can offer more to their customers thean we can, ya, cause they dont advertise something thats bogus.

[BoltzR1]

Does any one know who does good framing for less? (jersey)
I know FOD charges way too much $500-600. My signed jersey is not authentic and i was thinking of framing it rather than wear it. But then again i may not want to be involved with FOD for now till they clear things up. I am glad i got my refund and now i can use the extra $$ for possible framing. :Bolt:

[SDFAN08]

Does any one know who does good framing for less? (jersey)
I know FOD charges way too much $500-600. My signed jersey is not authentic and i was thinking of framing it rather than wear it. But then again i may not want to be involved with FOD for now till they clear things up. I am glad i got my refund and now i can use the extra $$ for possible framing. :Bolt:


I know CJ'S sends out there jerseys to be framed. They charge $300-$350. They look real good.

[LARGEnCHARGE]

Any way we can pull together a "do-it-yourself" framing thread? how hard could it be to frame a jersey? damn paying those prices!

[SDLT21]

The one in my pic is a shadow box I got at Michaels for $50 and did it myself

[LTWK152006]

While everyone and their moms were cutting in line and elbowing each other down at WalMart I went to the Escondido Arts Center for Philip Rivers and got a couple of autos.

2nd, everyone needs to chill out on the 'FOD Drama'. This isnt the 'complaint thread'. Its real simple just go get your money back. They dont owe you anything other than your money. I dont care who said what I dont beleive any of them. I'll hold on to my tickets (w/ inscriptions paid) until FOD says its not going to happen and if thats the case I'll say to them 'nice try and let me know when you guys get something together next time'. IT happens. Its called 'Life'. Come on FOD is not going to take your money and run anywhere. At least they're trying to make something happen. Lets keep this thread on topic.

[SouthernCalBolt]

LTWK: What do you mean you dont believe any of them? You dont believe cromartie knows if he's doing a show for them or not? And how do you figure they only owe us our moneyback, they fraduantly sold tickets and continued selling them, and are as of right now still selling them. So between the 150miles roundtrip to get the tix, the 150miles again to return them, the 2 days off from work, and the jersey because they decided to say he was doing it AFTER CROMARTIE TOLD THEM A MONTH AGO HE WAS NOT SIGNING FOR THEM, and still sold tickets, they actually owe everyone a lot. They should bring in a player and everyone who had tix for cromartie gets it for free plus like a $100 gift card. They never had cromartie, NEVER.

[LTWK152006]

We have enough people in this country with an 'entitlement' attitude. Just get your money back (you dont have to drive down there if you paid w/ credit card/visa or mc bank card) and work out your extra discounts etc on your own -- when you get your refund I'm sure they'll give you an apology - I dont think every employee will line up for your phone call to apologize - I'm sure u can get one or two. What I mean 'thats life' - lets move on and lets stay on topic here. If you want to create a 'Autos Complaint' or 'FOD Stinks' thread go make it. A lot of people that view this thread dont have time to scroll through all the 'drama' for the real info that this thread was meant for. Come on for petes sake.

[gochargers.21]

Philip Rivers was signing this weekend? Dang it, if I knew that I would have hauled a$$ to Esco to grab his. How was the turnout?

[FlipTreeJ]

Once again, the Charlie Joiner Celebrity Invitational Golf Tournament has been announced. The dates ar Friday, June 27, 2008 and Saturday, June 28, 2008 at the Maderas Golf Club on behalf of Skill Centers of America.

Here is the link: http://www.joinergolf.org/

pricey, but if you have the money and are willing, here's your opportunity.

[Borhan]

How was Philip looking? Was his walk a little hobbled? :17:

[Charger31]

Yah how was Phillip? How did no one else know about the Rivers signing.

[SouthernCalBolt]

LTWK: its funny that you say people dont have the time to scroll thru everything for the info we all want, however, somehow you neglected to post the rivers info for anyone else? Also its not a sense of entitlement, the cro signing didn't just happen to fall thru, they never had him and they lied about it and said they did, they led everyone who bought tickets on. If it had just fallen thru I'd say fine that sucks get a refund, the fact that they actually said cro is having personal problems, when in reality, he just declined to sign for them is total bull$#!+, get it thru your head, FoD never had cro, he told them no a long time ago, long before the second "rescheduling" ever happened. And if you're so concerned with people being able to get info on signings howcome you're the only one that knew about rivers??

[BoltzR1]

The one in my pic is a shadow box I got at Michaels for $50 and did it myself

Do you have other pictures of your shadow box???

Also thanks SDFAN08 >>> I will also check on CJ's pricing

[LARGEnCHARGE]

the rivers info WAS posted here for everyone to see...

[gochargers.21]

I missed that post also. I guess everyone was hyping Cromarties so much that it probably got lost in the clutter. Strange because I check this forum almost 3 x a day too. Ah well.

[christophersprw]

cousin made eye shield for crows fsu mini

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/DSC03629.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/DSC03628.jpg

lol he traced and the clear plastic bucket of nuts you get at costco, pretty creative.

[SouthernCalBolt]

I never saw anything about rivers, seems like that woulda been a bigger deal then cromartie, random also did not put it up which means either he never heard about it either or it was never confirmed.

[BoltFan73]

Rivers info is on page 103

[mvandor]

I have emailed Mark Whitney, the franchise owner at FOD Fashion Valley, regarding the Cromartie mess, and asked for his side of the story on this. Assuming he replies, and with his permission, I'll post his reply to me.

[Charger31]

Yah I would understand opening a new one. You can rename this one "Come and Cry Aboout FOD"

[mvandor]

Yah I would understand opening a new one. You can rename this one "Come and Cry Aboout FOD"

Certainly support a fresh thread, but don't appreciate unaffected parties making light of what is appearing as a possible fraudulent business action. That's a completely serious matter, as another poster indicated, that goes beyond a $40 signing fee. People lost work time, gas, and in my case $500 putting together two helmets for that signing. Being upset about that is understandable, and certainly not whining.

[xtra-innings]

Sorry guys I missed it. I'm thinking it's about time to open up a new thread as we're at 100 pages and there's a lot of non-autograph/appearance discussion. Any objections? I'm gonna e-mail Joel and see if I can start one in General Discussion as I don't think this thread is off topic. I understand people being frustrated by the Field of Dreams cancellations. It sounds like they are making good on refunds.

RT-I agree this thread has begun its tailspin downward. It's unfortunate but I support whatever you want to do. When some dig their heels in and refuse to move on to other subjects, it affects all the threaders who have to muttle around the posts to find the signings they are looking for. Several of the threaders have tried to steer those back on course (to player appearance posts) but it has not happened. Whatever litigation or complaints individuals want to follow through on, then do it. I don't feel we need a play-by-play of everything...atleast not on this thread.

That's a shame since mini-camp is only a month away... :(

[Schiess]

RT-I agree this thread has begun its tailspin downward. It's unfortunate but I support whatever you want to do. When some dig their heels in and refuse to move on to other subjects, it affects all the threaders who have to muttle around the posts to find the signings they are looking for. Several of the threaders have tried to steer those back on course (to player appearance posts) but it has not happened. Whatever litigation or complaints individuals want to follow through on, then do it. I don't feel we need a play-by-play of everything...atleast not on this thread.

That's a shame since mini-camp is only a month away... :(

I'll second that, Xtra. Let's get a new thread going and use it for what it's meant for. Maybe on the first page there could be links to a helmet/jersey/equipment thread and a complaint thread for the FOD type stuff as well.

Just my two cents (not that anybody asked for it...haha)

[Left Hook]

To anyone that has returned their FOD tickets, do you have to have the receipt?

[FlipTreeJ]

I don't want to make light of the whole FOD thing, but this is definitely not the proper venue for this type of discussion. I sincerely feel for all of you who have lost ridiculous amounts of money in this whole debacle. Days off of work, helmets, and such.

However, there is no one here that can adequately help on the subject of litigation, unless they are an actual attorney. We can speculate all we want, and say this and that, but if anyone really wants to argue this point, they're going to have to discuss this with an attorney and file a complaint against FOD. No one can just rightfully go in there and demand something from them. However, as I said, we all have the right to file a legal complaint against them, if there are proper grounds for one. Ask an attorney for a consultation and representation, if you guys feel like you really want to proced with retribution.

As I said earlier, I really feel for everyone who has lost time and money to this whole debacle. But this isn't the place to stir up legal action. Keep the thread as it was intended - as a place to share autograph appearance and signing information.

[LTWK152006]

The Phillip Rivers signing wasnt really a signing. He was the guest speaker at a Catholics mens breakfast which included Mass starting at 8am maybe thats why this wasnt posted on page1 by Random Task. It was posted on page 103. I took my chances that he would sign some autos and I got lucky as he only 'signed' for about 15 minutes for mainly kids. I'm glad I went after hearing him speak I have more respect for him. He used a quote from LoNeal, 'Friends are like an elevator. They either bring you up or bring you down.' I'll just leave it at that as I dont want to get off topic here. He did say he would do this again if his schedule allowed but I wouldnt really recommend going to this for just an auto as it was hit or miss on even getting one auto and then depending on your religious beliefs etc.

I also want to thank everyone who posts appearances and info on signings on this thread. We dont want this thread to shut down and I/we appreciate all the work that Random Task does for this thread.

[Left Hook]

Welp I Have Uncovered The Mystery To The Fod Debacle Today As I Went To Retrieve My Refund. I Was Calm And Did Not Vent At Anybody Because The People Working There I Found Were Not Responsible For This Mess. They Had No Update As I Expected. They Gave Me My Money And I Decided To Look Around Abit, When I Overheard One Talking To A New Employee Stating That They Were Being Charged $45/minute, Which I Would Speculate Why The Increase From $15 To $40. So I Did My Math And Concluded That At $45/ Minute They Were Being Charged $2700/hour And $5400/2hours. When I Had Called Fod Last Week Kerstyn Had Said That 50 People Had Given There Phone Numbers Stating They Had Bought Tickets. Some People Might Have Just Given There Phone Numbers For An Update. Assuming All 50 People Bought Tickets In Order For Fod To Recoup The Cost Of Getting Cro To Sign Assuming That Everyone Was Bringing There Own Item Each Of The 50 People Would Have Had To Buy 3 Tickets At $40 Bringing In $6000 Which Would Be A Profit Of Only $600. I Know There Might Have Been Some Peolpe Buying Items From The Store Like Footballs, Helmets Etc. But How Many People DO YOU THINK Would Be Buying Overpriced Helmets And Footballs. So My Conclusion Is That They Werent Gonna Profit Much And Were Cancelling To Sell More Tickets Untill They Reached A More Profitable Amount. THATS MY THEORY AND AS JIM ROME WOULD SAY "IM OUT", "GOOD NIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!"

So did you need your receipt?

[pete R0Q]

^^ i went to return my ticket this past weekend, and yes i had to have my receipt.

[LARGEnCHARGE]

Here. Here! I agree...New thread necessary...Most of the one hundred pages are old signing info anyway...Start Fresh for this Coming season

[SouthernCalBolt]

When I called FoD to call their bluff once I confirmed my suspicions after talking to cromartie himself, they said they'd give refunds with reciepts. I am very appreciative of all the work thats goes into keeping a thread like this up and running so if random or whoever is in charge thinks a new one is best I'm for it. I also think that having a thread where the only posts are relevent appearance information with no comments or chit chat is very optimistic at best. But thank you to everyone who posted event info or other info that was helpful. Hopefully this FoD drama is over and everyone learns from it, I look forward to seeing those of you I have met already, and to meeting those of you I haven't yet. Thanks random, xtra, mb, and the rest of you.

[mvandor]

When I called FoD to call their bluff once I confirmed my suspicions after talking to cromartie himself, they said they'd give refunds with reciepts. I am very appreciative of all the work thats goes into keeping a thread like this up and running so if random or whoever is in charge thinks a new one is best I'm for it. I also think that having a thread where the only posts are relevent appearance information with no comments or chit chat is very optimistic at best. But thank you to everyone who posted event info or other info that was helpful. Hopefully this FoD drama is over and everyone learns from it, I look forward to seeing those of you I have met already, and to meeting those of you I haven't yet. Thanks random, xtra, mb, and the rest of you.

I will note I've gotten a very different story from Mark at FOD which I'm inclined to believe. My experience in observing agents is you can't trust them as far as you can throw them, and the players get their info on this type of stuff from those agents. So I suggest people keep an open mind.

[FlipTreeJ]

Hey, guys. Do you know if LT has done any signings for Witt Lincoln Mercury, or is planning to do any in the future? Just wondering.

[Kerrstyn]

Hello again. This is Kerrstyn. I just got finished updating myself on all of your comments from over the weekend. I do apologize for not responding sooner, but this is my first day back to work since Thu. I see that a few of you are looking forward to my response. I will try to be as nice as I have been, but some of you are being just down right mean! Thank you to the few of you are suggesting that it is not entirely our fault.

Lets get a few things cleared up: (even though I have stated a lot of this before)

1. IF you have a receipt and you want a refund: COME IN and get one. The 30 days on the bottom (in this situation) means nothing!
~We are not trying to play any tricks on you guys. We are ALL suffering from this. I think SothernCalBolt was sayin something about all the money he has lost......Well Hello! Don't you think we are all taking a huge hit on this as well?!?!?! Do you think this is profitable for us: PR wise and money wise?!?!

2. Props to all of you who received autos at Wal Mart. That is awesome that he finally showed up to something.
~As I recall one of you posting that he has canceled on a lot of other venues as well. Are you writing hate threads about those venues. They probably went through the same situation that we did.

3. The rep that is dealing with us is a different rep than the one that was there with him at the store. The one at the store was his actual AGENT. These guys have a ton of people that speak and schedule things for them. The rep that we have been dealing with has been getting us Cro products since mid last year. He is the one that presented the signing to us. Obviously we happily agreed. He sent over a contract. We signed it. Thats when the avoidance and the rescheduling began.
~This a quote from Mark, my manager, who responded to one of you in an email: "I am aware of the heat being taken, and quite honestly, I am at the point of being more than pissed off, not at the people on the boards, but at Cromartie or his agent or his rep, or whoever has been stringing us along this whole time. His rep, who we have been dealing with for items since about the middle of last year, is the one who first brought this signing up to us, and I agreed to it, happily at the time. He sent us a contract and laid out the terms, and I signed it and sent it back. Since that time, I have received nothing but delay tactics and promises, and I'm not sure which one of them is to blame for it. We have been assured countless times that he will be doing this signing, though always through this rep. The family issues that keep being brought up was the reason given to us several times. Though not getting any specifics, and not feeling that it was really my place to push for details, this has repeatedly been the reason given."

4. Mark is not the Franchise Owner. We are a corporate store. Mark is the manager. We get all of our orders from the higher ups.
~I, Kerrstyn, am responding to you guys through this thread because I wanted to. I just jumped in and did it. Mainly because I was so upset about what you guys were saying on here. Some of your comments were personally and professionally hurtful and uncalled for! Mark has been responding to you guys as well, through me. I write the responses and he adds where necessary. I'm responding to you by myself today.
~Just to mention that yes, some of the FOD's are franchise stores.

5. So, the latest news that I have from Mark: "We are all tired of this whole thing, and I have been told by our president that they will make a final decision on this whole thing by the end of the week, because it's hurting everyone, both our company and the customers."

6. Seriously guys! Are you really gonna take something like this to court?!?! Why waste more time and more money? Why cant we be civilized. My experience on here is that most of you are rational beings. Some not so much. We are trying our best here guys!

7. We DID NOT continue to sell tickets after the 2nd rescheduling. We are NOT currently still selling tickets either!
~Not one time did we FRAUDULENTLY sell tickets. Each ticket we sold was for a signing that we honestly thought was going to happen.
~As soon as we heard of the 2nd rescheduling with no date, we immediately stopped all ticket sales and started taking names and phone numbers. Which takes me to my next point:

8. Yes. We have a list of names and phone numbers to call when we KNOW something worth while to call you about.
~Someone did some crazy math a couple days ago on here. There are 5 PAGES of names, NOT 50 People!
~Once again guys, we had no quota. We are not buying time. We have been operating the best way that we have been able to. Whats the difference in giving you refunds now or when the first rescheduling happened. Either way, we are losing money. Now or then. The only difference now, is that we have some pissed off people.......Now, tell me, how is that in our best interest?!?!?

9. I am on here to give you guys updates. I have apologized a hundred times on here on behalf of FOD.
~When we have any news worth mentioning: canceled or rescheduled, we will go down that 5 page list and call every person with an APOLOGY and news.
I will also post the news on here for you. I thought I was doing a good thing by being on here, but according to some of you this has not been good enough.

10. mvandor: You are more than welcome to post the email from Mark if you would like. He was sincere and honest. I hope you guys can appreciate that.

~Come on guys. Lets all take a chill and give each other the benefit of the doubt. We are sincerely trying our best here with the information that we have. I have no reason to come on here and lie to you. If we were trying to hide stuff I wouldn't be here.

~For some of you, I think you need to go through this and read this twice! Make sure you take it all in cause I think I have repeated a lot of this a couple times.

~If you would like to step away from the thread, we are very easy to get a hold of and happy to give you all of the information that we have.

~Kerrstyn
Email:fashionvalley@fieldofdreams.com
619-297-9148

[LARGEnCHARGE]

"Can't we all just get along!" in my best rodney king voice.

[FlipTreeJ]

I'm sure it'll work itself out in the end, guys. In a manner that's acceptable to all parties involved! Thanks for the info, Kerrstyn! Maybe we can get Cromartie, his agent, or representative on the thread, now!!!! Here's to hoping.

[SDLT21]

Who cares. Just get ur money back and move on people.

[DonkeyPuncher]

Hey, guys. Do you know if LT has done any signings for Witt Lincoln Mercury, or is planning to do any in the future? Just wondering.

I heard (after the fact) he did one about 3 weeks ago on a Thursday night at Witt but notice only went out to owners of vehicles purchased there...can anyone confirm?

[SDLT21]

I also heard the same

[SouthernCalBolt]

I would just like to say that I am taking a more nuetral stance on the cro and FoD thing. Obviously they contradict eachother and theres no way to know what to believe. However, had FoD emailed me or called me personally and been making updates instead of never calling or emailing me or anyone else even once I would have gotten less suspicious. I'm gonna keep my tickets in the hopes that it still happens. For the record I can see what FoD is saying being true, but its also hard for me to believe that cro would outright lie, and say that he is not doing it if he was still attemtping to reshcedule. Sorry kerstyn if I was "mean" or whatever, I acted based on info I was provided with, and since I had info from cro and none from FoD it was one sided. I'm starting to think it is more likely what FoD is saying. But kerstyn, when I called saturday after the walmart signing, I aSked if you guys were still selling cro tickets and they said yes, thats why I said that.

[Fouts14]

I too will keep my ticket and purchase 2 more if the signing happens. However, I understand this is a business so I'll just hold out hope that both parties can make this happen.

F14

[Kerrstyn]

Look. I realize a lot of this is he said/she said. We are really trying our best. We have not called anyone because none of our info has changed. We would be calling to tell you the same info you already know. From our stand point we want the signing to still happen. From Corporates stand point they want the signing. I know you guys do......so we are trying our best to get him here for you!

Honestly, do you think that all of these high profile players know exactly what their schedule is at all times. We are telling you what we know, and I'm sure he has told you what he knows.
You have been very quick this entire time to bad mouth us and sometimes about info that wasn't necessarily true, just assumed.

I'm sorry that someone here misunderstood your question. They might have meant that when we receive a new date we will continue selling tickets and that we still have tickets to sell. Either way......we are and have not been selling tickets as of the news of the 2nd rescheduling with no further date.
By me responding to you on this I am doing a service to everyone on the board to keep you updated. Rather than going down the phone list with no new info.
I don't understand how you are suspicious of us considering I have been posting something almost weekly telling exactly what I know and what the current situation is.

I apologize again to all of you for all of this mass confusion and we are ALL hoping to have this solved, either way, by Friday.

[love-one]

'Nuff said..........let's get back to posting autograph appearance information (i.e. player(s), location, time, etc.).

Please no more negative comments :nono:

[FlipTreeJ]

Did ANYONE on this thread know that the LT signing was happening BEFORE the fact?

[gochargers.21]

I would have done the same if I was Witt. Whole reason for them having these auto sessions is to basically sell cars and give their owners an incentive to be a Lincoln owner...regardless though, if LT was signing for free and we missed it Ima cry.....:(

[Schiess]

I'm gonna try taking my car to Witt to have the oil changed in their service department, and test drive a car or two while I'm waiting. Maybe I can get on their "exclusive" email list that way. It's worth a try!

[DonkeyPuncher]

Did ANYONE on this thread know that the LT signing was happening BEFORE the fact?

I'm sure 1 of the 200 people that showed up posts on this board. Oh well, I'll try to get him at training camp. Got the stiff arm from LT last year...mob behind me was pushing me into the kids that were up against the fence...he probably thought I was pushing into them too.

[ScootMagroot]

I wish i would have known about it, i still dont have LT

[SouthernCalBolt]

It would be nice if people with the info posted it for everyone else, so far this week I have missed rivers and apperently LT as well. Kerstyn, pm me, I think you are misunderstanding what I am saying.

[O'sideLTfan]

im close to forking over 200+ for his sig on ebay. hahahahahah

[FlipTreeJ]

I know of atleast 4 people on this board that attended ;)

REALLY?!?!? Was it invite only? Or was it an open signing, with Witt sending out the info on the downlow?

[FlipTreeJ]

So, just to get things straight... LT had a public signing, but Witt only let the word out through mailed flyers and phone calls. And some people on THIS thread knew about the event beforehand AND attended. And the information was never shared with the rest of the threaders. Is that about the gist of it?

And an unknown Gates signing, too?

[AFLChargers]

If anyone has any autographed Topps cards of Ronnie Harmon, Leslie O'Neal, Courtney Hall, Nate Lewis, Gill Byrd or Wayne Walker, I would be very interested in speaking with you. I am in the process of finishing up an autographed Topps Chargers card project. Eleven years ago I collected the Fleer (1960-1963) and Topps (1961, 1964-2007) Chargers team sets and began to get the cards autographed. I now have 717/743 cards signed. I am missing 14 signed cards of deceased players from the 1960s (Emil Karas, Jacque MacKinnon, Frank Buncom, etc.) and 9 cards from the 1990s of the names listed above.

If anyone has signed Topps cards of those players, I would trade heavily in your favor, or purchase them if you prefer. Please drop me a PM. Thanks!

[brat619]

Thanks for the info should be a great turnout....

[SouthernCalBolt]

Ok so was the LT appearance invite only? If anyone could have gone and people on here knew about it and decided not to tell anyone else we may as well just close the thread down because whats the point?! Well I hope to see everyone at mini camp, anyone have any advice what would be the best day to go, I'll probably only be able to make it down for 1 day, thanks!

[gochargers.21]

Nah no need to close the thread. 1 miss out of 99 is a pretty good hit rate if you ask me. I guess theres just some guys on this forum who like taking info but dont want to give any back.....

[SouthernCalBolt]

Ya, but when the 1 out of 99 is LT I'd say thats pretty significant. Maybe we should change the name from player appearance and autos to bragging about player appearance and autos that you got but decided not to tell anyone else about.

[LTWK152006]

The thread should be called 'Chargers Players Appearances and Autograph (except LT b/c his signings are too crazy out of control over crowded so dont expect to find info on here) Thread' -- I was upset that no one said anything but when I think about it I understand -- but come on everybody dont hold back any info on all other players!

[Good Days Last2]

If LT were Batman, we wouldn't have this problem...

[mvandor]

The value of an LT auto is $200 and the crowds would be insane if a free signing was announced to the general public making it that less likely you'd get a sig. I can understand people keeping that info close to the vest.

[FlipTreeJ]

Maybe for some of the threaders, it's "If I can get five autographs, sell four, and four other people get no autographs, that's better than five people getting an autograph".

And I for one also understand people wanting to keep that kind of info close to the vest, if it was a public signing. It doesn't make it right. It just makes it f-ing shady.

[dean619]

its kinda like the Cro signing at Walmart where there were a bunch of people in line trying to get just a single autograph and came away with nothing because people paid random strangers to get an additional 2+ autographs from him. i'm not complaining through. I got mine. Just felt bad for the people behind me.

[SDFAN08]

I think it sucks people are holding back info. I mean if you know a player is going to be somewhere signing, they should post it. If the player is going to be there at 1:00 plan to be there early, like I was at Wal-Mart. I got there at 8:30 because I knew how the crowd was going to be. If you plan on getting 15 minutes before the signing plan on getting shut out.

[xtra-innings]

Before we get too off topic here, remember...there are two rules of thought:

1. Do I share the info and risk not getting there early enough to secure a "guaranteed" sig?

<or>

2. Do I keep the info "close to the vest" and look out for myself?

Depending on which side of the fence you're on, you can argue either way. Some may like it; others won't. It's the nature of the game/business...again...depending on what side of the fence you are on.

For those who remember the Gates signing in El Cajon, a handful of threaders who post on this site were there as were others who don't post but read this thread for the free sig info. Several of us asked some of the people who attended how they found out about the signing because it was handled much the same way as this past LT signing. Their response: I read it on the website.

Sometimes, it's a good thing to post...sometimes not, as there were about 200+ people who showed up for Gates and not everyone got a sig.

This event (LT signing) is over with, so time to move on to the other signings and appearances we know about or are shared by other threaders on this site...:Cheers:

[SouthernCalBolt]

You could still pm the info to the regulars, those of us that show up at the signings obviously not because of the price of resale, ie jamal williams etc. That would keep people being able to hear something and google LT appearance and having this thread with relevent info pop up. But ya, I think it was mainly if I can go get a bunch of stuff signed to sell thats better then sharing with everyone so they can at least decide whether or not its worth it to go wait. I, for instance, would have waited hours because LT is one of the only 06 players I dont have, and with his 1 if any free appearances a year it would have been nice to know. Whatever tho I guess when I hear info I will pm it to people I know would have told me if they had heard it.

[aurelio]

I agree, it depends what side of the fence your on. But, personally, I have met some of the threaders and I would PM them to let them know if there is an exclusive, super secret signing. One thing that irritates me is when I am ten people behind, next thing I know, I see 15 people cut because of that one person that has to let his "buddies" go in front. All they do is just "go on a website" and get their info. They kinda ruin it for everyone else.

[aurelio]

on a side note, just wondering if anyone is going to the camp at lincoln high school tomorrow? is it a good oppertunity to get autos?

[FlipTreeJ]

Before we get too off topic here, remember...there are two rules of thought:

1. Do I share the info and risk not getting there early enough to secure a "guaranteed" sig?

<or>

2. Do I keep the info "close to the vest" and look out for myself?

Depending on which side of the fence you're on, you can argue either way. Some may like it; others won't. It's the nature of the game/business...again...depending on what side of the fence you are on.

For those who remember the Gates signing in El Cajon, a handful of threaders who post on this site were there as were others who don't post but read this thread for the free sig info. Several of us asked some of the people who attended how they found out about the signing because it was handled much the same way as this past LT signing. Their response: I read it on the website.

Sometimes, it's a good thing to post...sometimes not, as there were about 200+ people who showed up for Gates and not everyone got a sig.

This event (LT signing) is over with, so time to move on to the other signings and appearances we know about or are shared by other threaders on this site...:Cheers:

You are absolutely right, xtra. There are definitely two rules of thought in respect to this hobby. Unfortunately, this thread isn't dedicated to holding back information. This thread is dedicated to sharing information with each other for a common interest.

I understand that some people don't post anything, and just read the website for signing information. I have absolutely no problem with them at all. I just know that when stuff gets posted, I have to show up to the signing a little early.

Then there are people that post every single friggin' piece of signing information they come upon, so that EVERYONE on this thread can benefit. Everything from addresses, to confirmed signings, price lists, tips and tricks of the trade, and even suspected signings. Those members make this thread work. And they get SHAFTED 'cause someone in the know doesn't feel like giving up info?!?!?

B.S.

Absolute B.S.

I'm gonna' try to move on. more signings await. But I'm not surprised to see no one has copped to going to the signing. Silent for three weeks after the signing...

[love-one]

Whatever tho I guess when I hear info I will pm it to people I know would have told me if they had heard it.

So should this thread be renamed Chargers Players appearances and Autograph Thread (public appearances only unless you are deemed worthy by the "regular" threaders) ?

This thread is dedicated to sharing information with each other for a common interest.

Amen


I view this forum, among others, for information sharing. Unlike many who show up for sigs (from my experience and in no way am I referencing anyone on this board), I am always respectful and don't hold a place in line for others to show up and cut in line 15 minutes prior to the signing. I will only request 1-2 items for sig and I NEVER sell my autos.

It is a shame...what was once a childhood hobby is now tainted and corrupted by greed. Regardless of what side of the perverbial fence you are on, the bottom line is collecting autographs....for business or pleasure. Like every aspect of life, you win some and you lose some.

Play hard, play fair.

Just my 2 cents.

[O'sideLTfan]

This thread is seriously like a soap opera. lol. Anyways, I think we need to remember that most if not all of us "nonregulars/ semi regulars threaders" are willing/want to help if we have information. Sometimes we are beaten to it OR don't have adequate resources to obtain such information.

Anyways, since I guess I'll NEVER get an LT autograph in my lifetime, anyone want to sell me an autograph? What's one less autograph going to do. hahahhahah just messing. :P

[aurelio]

I think reguardless of who it is, whether LT or Cromartie, a person that wants an autograph is going to have to show up early. The earlier you get there, the better chances you have for an autograph. Sharing the information doesnt mean that you wont get an auto, just means you will have to show up a little earlier. Lucky for me, i have my girl to accompany me in the long hours of what is "the line" LOL

[gochargers.21]

This is getting really ugly. I really hope it doesnt get to a point where nobody is going to share any information now and totally kill this forum.

I for one would be really sad to see that happen if it were to happen. Its because of you guys I have gotten back into this hobby and let me reiterate how appreciative I am for all the info thats been shared on here. I realize that theres been alot of time put in from getting info and posting it on here by those who post in this forum. And I totally agree how frusterating it is when there are those who come on the forum, take information and hoard their own information and not share with everyone. I for one am a firm believer of what goes around, comes around....both positively and negatively. I know that sounds trite but nevertheless, I think it will apply in this case as well for those who are generous here and for those who are well....selfish

[SouthernCalBolt]

If you're worried about tons of people that normally never post on the board getting the info then pm everyone who's posted in the last month. Then its not "public knowledge" but still all the people on here will have the heads up. Anyway, if you are part of this forum you should know by now you dont get there when it starts, its only a question of how many hours early. I got to the cro signing 1 1/2 hours early (tried for 2 but too much traffic) and was second to last people to get him. I mean the rivers signing with kasim and jackson was posted, so I dont see not saying anything about LT. I have a good idea of who the people were, not suprising that they dont want to explain, thats cool tho, showed your true colors. Now I know at least.

[FlipTreeJ]

Bottom line is, I personally believe that this thread is a public forum for sharing information. It isn't about regulars and PM'ing. It's about being a part of this thread and sharing what we know. With everybody.

I understand that if someone doesn't have anything to share, then they wouldn't post. But if someone knows something and doesn't post, then this is probably the wrong venue for them.

[BoltzR1]

True!

I for one is new to this thread and have picked up some few pointers on getting autos, i have met few guys from the threads during the CASTILLO and CRO signing and it was a pleasure in meeting some of you guys and gals. Im not good in remembering all the names for now, but the faces i do remember..(give it some time), Now, i do remember BOLTCOLA since we stood together for almost 3 hours. Anyways if do hear anything about an appearance in my area (951), this would be the first place i would share and talk about it. I truly beleive in sharing (info) after all this what this thread is all about. Now lets go forward.....
:Bolt::Bolt::Bolt:
"No man was ever honored for what he received. Honor is the reward for what he gave"

[SDfansince'86]

Hey guys & gals! My parents live right across the street from the new Lincoln High School (where apparently there's a camp going on for the kids with several NFL players), my dad just called me to tell me this, and also said that there's going to be any autograph session starting in 15 mintues (at 11:15 am); I know this is really short notice but someone may be interested in this so I figured I'd post it. I'm nowhere near my parents home right now, so I can't make it.

Anyway, general directions are take the 805, get off on Imperial Ave., make a right onto 47th street, go down several lights to "T" Street where you'll make a left. Follow that and it'll take you straight to the field!

BTW, I don't know who's out there; I asked my dad but he wasn't sure either.

[Borhan]

Can we make this thread only visible to those who are registered forum members? Or you can make it a separate board and then make that hidden to forum members? I am really bummed that I missed a free LT signing :( :21:

[ChargersFan55]

Anbody have any new news on the signing. I called FOD about 2 days ago and they said they would have a date by Friday.

[Schiess]

Anbody have any new news on the signing. I called FOD about 2 days ago and they said they would have a date by Friday.

I got my refund from FOD yesterday; they said they were still working on getting Cro in there. I hope it works out,for those that couldn't make it to the Wal-Mart signing. They also said they were working on getting Kouzmanoff sometime in June.

[christophersprw]

sup guys quick question i got kevin kouz, auto on a mini, should i leave his sig only on it, or continues getting more,

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/100_3906.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/100_3906.jpg)

[Boltpride 619]

sup guys quick question i got kevin kouz, auto on a mini, should i leave his sig only on it, or continues getting more,

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...e/100_3906.jpg (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y137/wweedge/100_3906.jpg)
Isn't this for the Padres Thread????

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=42142

[SouthernCalBolt]

I think I was misunderstood about the pming thing. I didn't mean only pm certain people. I meant pm everyone. What that would do is keep people from searching on google for "LT appearance" and having this board pop up as a result, which would give 100s of people who normally dont come to this board the info. That way nobody on here would be out of the loop but the info is still staying "in house" so to speak. Ya, I really hope cro comes through for FoD, I thought they said they'd know for sure either way by friday.

[gochargers.21]

Question guys. I put my Cro 16x20 in a matted frame from I got from Ikea several years ago and and decided to straigten it out a little better today. I pulled out the pix and noticed that the sig left an imprint on the glass and not only that, the glass cracked already. You guys have any recommendations for a frame with a 16x20 type matting already inside? I obviously need to replace this one. Do you put any type of adhesive on the back of the photo to keep it in place under the matting? Anytype of protection? Thanks in advance!

[mvandor]

Question guys. I put my Cro 16x20 in a matted frame from I got from Ikea several years ago and and decided to straigten it out a little better today. I pulled out the pix and noticed that the sig left an imprint on the glass and not only that, the glass cracked already. You guys have any recommendations for a frame with a 16x20 type matting already inside? I obviously need to replace this one. Do you put any type of adhesive on the back of the photo to keep it in place under the matting? Anytype of protection? Thanks in advance!

If you used double matting and taped the pic in place to the back of the matting, the sig wouldn't touch the glass. You can get frames and pre-made matting at Aaron Brothers, probably Walmart if you're on a budget. I use the Crystal Caseworks frames for most of mine but a 16x20 would be pricey.

Hard to keep this train on the track, huh guys?

[Fouts14]

If you used double matting and taped the pic in place to the back of the matting, the sig wouldn't touch the glass. You can get frames and pre-made matting at Aaron Brothers, probably Walmart if you're on a budget. I use the Crystal Caseworks frames for most of mine but a 16x20 would be pricey.

Hard to keep this train on the track, huh guys?

Get a Sunday newspaper and there should be 40-50% coupons for Michaels or Aaron brothers. Coupons for both can be found on their websites to. The frames can be bought cheaper that way.

F14

[#59D.BoltFan]

The intention of this thread is to make any information about players' appearances and signing public for all Chargers fans. I do not agree with PMing only specific individuals. That defeats the whole purpose.

[ChargersFan55]

Can we make this thread only visible to those who are registered forum members? Or you can make it a separate board and then make that hidden to forum members? I am really bummed that I missed a free LT signing :( :21:
Sorry, but your post sucks. Thats like saying lets make this thread viewable by people who joined before Jan. 2008. This thread is for people who share a common interest. If people want to keep certain signings to themselves, thats fine too. Even if somebody keeps some info to themselves, theres still gonna be a lot of people at the signing because maybe a friend that works at the place might give them a call about the signing.

[BoltzR1]

I totally agree with ChargersFan55 and #59D.BoltFan....

I have never heard of such thing as a membership thread? maybe im wrong....to my understanding this is an open Charger Fan "Appearance and Autograph Thread" forum and not QVC.....
:layup:layup

My take; I beleive in READ >> POST (opinions)>> and SHARE (information) for ALL interested, just like in other threads..... If someone wants to whine about an off topic thing, then it would be best for that person start a new thread and link it....

If you need cheese to go along with a wine (whine).... they can go to COSTCO cheese isle. (Oh, you need to be a member to buy cheese) jk:D

Hey "mvandor" >> You mentioned hard to keep this train on track? I thought this was a BUS on a lost route? Can someone tell that bus driver to turn RIGHT? jk:D

[UNDERDOGS]

JUST GOT BACK FROM BAYLESS CAMP AND WAS ALRIGHT EVEN THOUGH NO MEMORABLIA. JUST TSHIRT AND 11X14 FLYER.. ONLY PARTICIPANTS WERE ALLOWED TO GET AN AUTO BUT I HAD MY SON WITH ME AND I BOUGHT A SHIRT AND HE WAS ABLE TO SNEEK IN. THE TSHIRT IS SIGNED BY CROMARTIE, TUCKERS, TRA BATTLE, STEVE GREGORY, CLETIS GORDON, MARTIN BAYLESS AND ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SHIRT I DO NOT KNOW WHO IT IS. FLYER IS SIGNED BY LA ROI GLOVER.

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[UNDERDOGS]

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[UNDERDOGS]

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[2airisdevin3]

Question guys. I put my Cro 16x20 in a matted frame from I got from Ikea several years ago and and decided to straigten it out a little better today. I pulled out the pix and noticed that the sig left an imprint on the glass and not only that, the glass cracked already. You guys have any recommendations for a frame with a 16x20 type matting already inside? I obviously need to replace this one. Do you put any type of adhesive on the back of the photo to keep it in place under the matting? Anytype of protection? Thanks in advance!

Just out of curiousity, what type of pen was the autograph signed with (i.e. black or blue sharpie, silver or gold paint pen)?

[UNDERDOGS]

JUST GOT BACK FROM BAYLESS CAMP AND WAS ALRIGHT EVEN THOUGH NO MEMORABLIA. JUST TSHIRT AND 11X14 FLYER.. ONLY PARTICIPANTS WERE ALLOWED TO GET AN AUTO BUT I HAD MY SON WITH ME AND I BOUGHT A SHIRT AND HE WAS ABLE TO SNEEK IN. THE TSHIRT IS SIGNED BY CROMARTIE, TUCKERS, TRA BATTLE, STEVE GREGORY, CLETIS GORDON, MARTIN BAYLESS AND ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SHIRT I DO NOT KNOW WHO IT IS. FLYER IS SIGNED BY LA ROI GLOVER.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/027.jpg?t=1207513129http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/028.jpg?t=1207513150http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/029.jpg?t=1207513167[IMG]

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q229/foxtrot_3192/KC%20Chiefs/raiderhater.gif (http://www.msplinks.com/MDFodHRwOi8vczEzNy5waG90b2J1Y2tldC5jb20vYWxidW1zL3 EyMjkvZm94dHJvdF8zMTkyL0tDJTIwQ2hpZWZzLz9hY3Rpb249 dmlldyZjdXJyZW50PXJhaWRlcmhhdGVyLmdpZg==)

[gochargers.21]

Just out of curiousity, what type of pen was the autograph signed with (i.e. black or blue sharpie, silver or gold paint pen)?

Mine was a silver sharpie.

[dean619]

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/023.jpg?t=1207513419http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/020.jpg?t=1207513439http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/underdogs2/013-1.jpg?t=1207513468


That's awesome! I remember back in the day (about 10 or 12 years ago) I attended the Martin Bayless Football Camp at San Diego High. It was fun meeting the players and getting tips from pros like Ronnie Lott and others. I still have my shirt autographed from that camp.

[LTWK152006]

Just got an e-mail reminding me about the Stan Humphries gof tournament. I'll be in KC so I'm going to miss it :(

April 23 2008 - April 27 2008
Stan Humphries Celebrity Golf Tournament
http://www.stanhumphries.com/cc/

Confirmed players according to the website:
Dick Anderson
Donny Anderson
John Ashton
Kyle Boller
Hank Bauer
Gary Carter
Chris Chandler
Dwight Clark
Tom Dreesen
Mike Eruzione
Rollie Fingers
Grant Fuhr
Goose Gossage
Seth Joyner
Brian Kelley
Brian Kinchen
Ralph Terry
Adrian Young
Pierre Larouche


Any comments on this list? Where is Elway...



Neil Lomax
Jack Marin
Jim McMahon
Phil Nevin
Jesse Orosco
Rick Rhoden
Truck Robinson
Ray Romano
Bret Saberhagen
Jan Stenerud
Mickey Tettleton
Gorman Thomas
Billy Joe Tolliver
Jack Wagner
George Gervin
Dave Krieg
Bode Miller
Shane Rawley
Garry Templeton

[ScootMagroot]

wow thats like a whos who of nobodys

[Dav1d0382]

I went to the autograph signing that they had here in jerzey, LT was suppose to be there & he cancelled, so that wasn't a good day. they also had emmit smith,dan marino, eli & peyton manning, brady quinn, reggie bush, reggie wayne,almost all the giants player, jerome bettis, michael irvin but the one i wanted to get didnt show up"lt" man that was my only chance out here in the east coast-I'm going to try when they come play here next season at buffalo. If u guys give me a head up when he comes out here in new jersey, i would really appreciate-there's quite of chargers fans out here.. thanks

[xXCharger BoyXx]

Confirmed players according to the website:
Dick Anderson
Donny Anderson
John Ashton
Kyle Boller
Hank Bauer
Gary Carter
Chris Chandler
Dwight Clark
Tom Dreesen
Mike Eruzione
Rollie Fingers
Grant Fuhr
Goose Gossage
Seth Joyner
Brian Kelley
Brian Kinchen
Ralph Terry
Adrian Young
Pierre Larouche


Any comments on this list? Where is Elway...



Neil Lomax
Jack Marin
Jim McMahon
Phil Nevin
Jesse Orosco
Rick Rhoden
Truck Robinson
Ray Romano
Bret Saberhagen
Jan Stenerud
Mickey Tettleton
Gorman Thomas
Billy Joe Tolliver
Jack Wagner
George Gervin
Dave Krieg
Bode Miller
Shane Rawley
Garry Templeton
eh, isnt worth the 2 hour drive for me :-/

[ScootMagroot]

Just a bunch of Nobodys:
Dick Anderson - 3x NFL Pro Bowl, 72 Dolphins undefeated Super Bowl team
Donny Anderson - 1x NFL Pro Bowl, 2x Super Bowl Champ, Packers HOF
John Ashton - Sgt Taggert from Beverly Hills Cop
Kyle Boller - Ravens starting QB
Hank Bauer - Chargers HOF
Gary Carter - MLB HOF
Chris Chandler - 2x NFL Pro Bowl
Dwight Clark - The Catch, 2x NFL Pro Bowl, 2x Super Bowl champ
Tom Dreesen - Award winning comedian
Mike Eruzione - Captain of the 1980 Gold Medal USA Hockey team
Rollie Fingers - MLB HOF
Grant Fuhr - NHL HOF
Goose Gossage - MLB HOF
Seth Joyner - 3x NFL Pro Bowl
Brian Kelley - 10 year NFL player for NY Giants
Brian Kinchen - 13 year NFL player, 1x SB champ
Ralph Terry - 2x MLB All Star, 1962 World Series MVP, 5x WS champ
Adrian Young - No Doubt drummer
Pierre Larouche - 2x NHL All Star, 2x Stanley Cup champ
Neil Lomax - 2x NFL Pro Bowl
Jack Marin - 2x NBA All Star
Jim McMahon - 1x NFL Pro Bowl, 2x SB champ
Phil Nevin - 1x MLB All Star
Jesse Orosco - 2x MLB All Star, 2x World Series champ
Rick Rhoden - 2x MLB All Star, 1x World Series champ
Truck Robinson - 2x NBA All Star
Ray Romano - 3x Emmy award winning actor
Bret Saberhagen - 3x MLB All Star, 1985 World Series MVP
Jan Stenerud - NFL HOF
Mickey Tettleton - 2x MLB All Star
Gorman Thomas - 1x MLB All Star
Billy Joe Tolliver - Former Charger starting QB
Jack Wagner - Emmy nominated actor
George Gervin - NBA HOF
Dave Krieg - 3x Pro Bowl
Bode Miller - 4x World Champ Gold Medalist, 2x Olympic Silver Medalist
Shane Rawley - 1x MLB All Star
Garry Templeton - 3x MLB All Star

wow...that must have taken some time, but seriously. If you saw Robert Fick on there, would you be like oh wow, im glad hes gonna be there.....and by the way...he was: 1x MLB all star. And i wasnt talking about everyone, because i would love to get another Rollie Fingers auto, but im not too worried about the no doubt drummer. just my 2 cents not that it matters

[SouthernCalBolt]

Hahaha, good one monty. You're a comedian obviously. Let me know the next signing you'll be at and we can meet up in the parking lot and maybe you can tell me some more jokes. I look forward to it, I love to laugh, see ya soon!

[Coconut Boy]

Anybody know what is up with the forums? Seems like the last two months of posts and PM's have been wiped out.

Hey guys ... I'll try to start a new thread with the current info this weekend.

[xXCharger BoyXx]

ok i got somthing new,
just read at starbucks up in Vista that a former chargers gonna sign, but i need to find out who it is, ill post tommorow with more Info if i get it

[xtra-innings]

Hey guys ... I'll try to start a new thread with the current info this weekend.

That'll be great! It looks most of the threads on the Chargers website defaulted everything back to April 8th!?!?!:confused:

It's amazing how lost everyone is without the updated info...

[RandomTask]

Alright guys I started a new thread here:

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?p=1969026#post1969026

I'm gonna ask that this one be closed. So please start posting in the new one. Look in the new one for a Shawne Merriman signing. Seriously! Go look! Now!