THE 2009 NBA FINALS: Orlando Magic vs. Los Angeles Lakers

[chargerfan1978]

We should've had a playoff thread started, too.

Oh well.

Bring it.

[Jesse21SD]

I don't have the source anymore, but computer simulations have the Lakers win by game 6.

*based off 10,000 simulation average*

[defiancy]

This is going to be a great series. Orlando beat the Lakers both games during the reg season and has a defensive edge. Lakers have Kobe, good home court advantage and both teams have a great all around team.

Magic in Six.

However I am a homer, so take it with a grain of salt.

[Tomlinson21]

A finals thread is a good idea...keeps it neutral for alot of non Lakers Fans to let it out...to a certain extent of course. ;)

I say it's a good match....i'll wait til after game 2 to really feel this series out.

[chargerfan1978]

I don't have the source anymore, but computer simulations have the Lakers win by game 6.

*based off 10,000 simulation average*


They make soap operas out of sports and bulletin board material. Personally, I think it sucks.

[chargerfan1978]

This is going to be a great series. Orlando beat the Lakers both games during the reg season and has a defensive edge. Lakers have Kobe, good home court advantage and both teams have a great all around team.

Magic in Six.

However I am a homer, so take it with a grain of salt.

I was saying in the season thread Odom should start to matchup with Lewis. But, I think Gasol has the stamina to contain him. Gasol always runs the floor, especially on transition. So, Phil is probably going to stick to his playoff lineup. Also, Lewis and/or Hedo will have a hard time checking Gasol or Bynum should switch-ups occur.

Radmanovic was basically a non-factor in both season games, on both ends of the court. Ariza starts now, and is by far, more of a playmaker than him.

Naaaaa, Lakers in 6.

[lightningstrike]

I dont really watch bball but i know magic are underdogs so i have to go for magic! always liked the underdogs!!



:helmet GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHARGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AKSwiftYupik]

Lakers!
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[AKSwiftYupik]

I dont really watch bball but i know magic are underdogs so i have to go for magic! always liked the underdogs!!



:helmet GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHARGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do agree with you tho.....

[lightningstrike]

I do agree with you tho.....


Ya if it was the otherway around id go with lakers! the only time i dont go for underdogs is if chargers are playing and the opposing team are underdogs i can careless if they lose!!



:helmet GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CHARGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

[vodka&boltzs]

point blank lakers have to play D. In this series the one that wins will be the team that plays the best D. With that said I'll
Also wait till after game 2 to make my choice but you I have to go with the lakers. I had my doubts but the guys have played really well on both ends of the court in the final 2 games against the nuggets. Should be a good series though

[I Believe]

I don't have the source anymore, but computer simulations have the Lakers win by game 6.

*based off 10,000 simulation average*

Yeah and so did everyone elses computer when when the Magic played the Celtics and then the Cavs. So by all means I like your "simulation"

[chargerfan1978]

point blank lakers have to play D. In this series the one that wins will be the team that plays the best D. With that said I'll
Also wait till after game 2 to make my choice but you I have to go with the lakers. I had my doubts but the guys have played really well on both ends of the court in the final 2 games against the nuggets. Should be a good series though


The D will set the Lakers free. Jameer Nelson may be coming back. That adds another sniper to their offensive arsenal. Nelson is a Laker-killer, too. But, it still goes back to perimeter and team defense.

[MikeTheBlade]

magic in 7

[chargerfan1978]

magic in 7


Not if Kobe personally sends Howard to the pine a lot - Magic in 7 belongs in Toon Town, son.

[chargerfan1978]

Yeah and so did everyone elses computer when when the Magic played the Celtics and then the Cavs. So by all means I like your "simulation"

Nope . . . Kobe is kryptonite.

[stevge88]

Watch this great video.

How The West Was Won
A look at Kobe Bryant's long road back the NBA Finals in 2009.
YouTube - How The West Was Won

[chargerfan1978]

Watch this great video.

How The West Was Won
A look at Kobe Bryant's long road back the NBA Finals in 2009.
YouTube - How The West Was Won (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2-xvQbnnHw&fmt=22)


. . . . gave me goosebumps.

It is time for another championship - no doubt.

[osuchin]

NBA PLAYOFFS :: Philadelphia 76ers vs Orlando Magic

watch here live

http://watchlivestreamshow.blogspot.com/2009/06/watch-nba-finals-2009-lakers-vs-magic.html

[RAWDOGG]

I hope this thread doesn't curse them........the other thread was bringing good mojo

[chargerfan1978]

I hope this thread doesn't curse them........the other thread was bringing good mojo


Sorry, I've heard and tried a few. Wore a certain ensemble, a certain jersey, home color, away, regular clothes, people in company, place in question like a certain bar, someone's house, who scores when, who's in control at what point, to watch the game, to not watch the game, what I consume before, during, after . . . .

. . . . all have been proven wrong sooner or later.

The X-Files is long over RAWDOGG. Mojo should bring a perfect record - 82-0, and 16-0. Nope.
:LightsOut:

[chargerfan1978]

NBA PLAYOFFS :: Philadelphia 76ers vs Orlando Magic

watch here live

http://watchlivestreamshow.blogspot.com/2009/06/watch-nba-finals-2009-lakers-vs-magic.html


It just displays The Finals.

[chargerfan1978]

I don't think he'll be in shape to make enough of an impact. Also, when you've come off an injury and you step on the floor - it's open season, son.

[RAWDOGG]

Sorry, I've heard and tried a few. Wore a certain ensemble, a certain jersey, home color, away, regular clothes, people in company, place in question like a certain bar, someone's house, who scores when, who's in control at what point, to watch the game, to not watch the game, what I consume before, during, after . . . .

. . . . all have been proven wrong sooner or later.

The X-Files is long over RAWDOGG. Mojo should bring a perfect record - 82-0, and 16-0. Nope.
:LightsOut:

I know.......I was joking

[chargerfan1978]

I know.......I was joking


Hence, the :LightsOut:. HAHAHAHAHA. But, ya know - you run into people like that all the time. I tell 'em they're crazy. My dad doesn't want to watch Lakers games with me. We watched these . . .

Game 3 of Utah
Game 1 and 4 of Houston
Hoculi game
SD-BUF
ORL-LAL
SDSU-Baylor NIT Final Four

. . . what an '08-09 resume', huh??

[GoTomlinson]

Where is the poll?? Every Finals thread must have attached it's legendary poll of who will win.

[chargerfan1978]

Where is the poll?? Every Finals thread must have attached it's legendary poll of who will win.

I've never done it.

[StevenSD]

**** los angeles

and for any san diego fan that roots for an LA team, i just put you on the bandwagon, if you actually feel the need to root for an LA team, root for the one that left san diego, the Clippers.

Anyways, Magic take the series in Six games. Although LA matches up better against Orlando than Cleveland, it still won't be enough.

[xCharger Carlx]

**** los angeles

and for any san diego fan that roots for an LA team, i just put you on the bandwagon, if you actually feel the need to root for an LA team, root for the one that left san diego, the Clippers.

Anyways, Magic take the series in Six games. Although LA matches up better against Orlando than Cleveland, it still won't be enough.

Im not a San Diego sports fan, Im a chargers fan. I live in Orange County and root for the Angels and the Lakers.

Whats wrong with that?

[I Believe]

Not if Kobe personally sends Howard to the pine a lot - Magic in 7 belongs in Toon Town, son.

If Orlando holds Kobe like they held LBJ in game 6 LA will be a cake walk. Yes I know LA has a way better supporting cast but still LA needs Kobe more than Orlando needs Dwight and so on...

[StevenSD]

Im not a San Diego sports fan, Im a chargers fan. I live in Orange County and root for the Angels and the Lakers.

Whats wrong with that?

then where was i talking to you?

[GoTomlinson]

**** los angeles

and for any san diego fan that roots for an LA team, i just put you on the bandwagon, if you actually feel the need to root for an LA team, root for the one that left san diego, the Clippers.

Anyways, Magic take the series in Six games. Although LA matches up better against Orlando than Cleveland, it still won't be enough.

Oh just a bitter Magic fan who is still pissed to see Shaq go to the Lakers to become a dynasty. Somebody forgot to take their testosterone pills today.

Sorry, pal. San Diego is LAKERS territory!

[Stallion1994]

I hate Orlando, so I'll be pulling for the overrated Lakers.

[GoTomlinson]

I hate Orlando, so I'll be pulling for the overrated Lakers.

It's soooo ironic the Cavaliers fan applies the word "over rated" towards another team besides his own.

[chargerfan1978]

It's soooo ironic the Cavaliers fan applies the word "over rated" towards another team besides his own.


damn straight . . . . .

Remember Shawne Merriman's illegal substance suspension and the nerve of raider fans talking steroid smack about him.

Yup . . . . IRONIC.

[StevenSD]

Oh just a bitter Magic fan who is still pissed to see Shaq go to the Lakers to become a dynasty. Somebody forgot to take their testosterone pills today.

Sorry, pal. San Diego is LAKERS territory!

The only thing I'm bitter about in that situation was what the Orlando Sentinal did that made Shaq want out. Do some research and you may figure out what it was. I could careless about Shaq anyways, he's nothing without an effective shooter like Penny, Kobe and Dwanye.

**** LA, and every team in it.

San Diego doesn't belong to ANY LA team

[chargerfan1978]

**** los angeles

and for any san diego fan that roots for an LA team, i just put you on the bandwagon, if you actually feel the need to root for an LA team, root for the one that left san diego, the Clippers.

Anyways, Magic take the series in Six games. Although LA matches up better against Orlando than Cleveland, it still won't be enough.


Whatever, man. Another 'true to San Diego' up-chucker. I've wasted enough time before arguing - no thanks. I've heard it all . . . .

[StevenSD]

Whatever, man. Another 'true to San Diego' up-chucker. I've wasted enough time before arguing - no thanks. I've heard it all . . . .

heh why choose the lakers over the clippers??

;)

[chargerfan1978]

heh why choose the lakers over the clippers??

;)

Look, I've done enough of this 'why am I a fan tirade'. I'll just tell ya I started watching college hoops first and it was Magic vs. Bird. I liked Magic, born in the LBC, he gets drafted, yadda . . . . yadda . . . . . . yadda.

No mas. Lakers in 6.

[howard]

There are so many factors to include when discussing this matchup. Will Bynum be strong enough to gaurd Dwight? Will Orlando's shooters have the same success? Will anyone on the Magic be able to stop Kobe? Any number of these are big.

My take, Lakers in 6 or 7. If Lakers are to win they need to keep the game close until the last 3/4 minutes, get Howard to foul out, and let Kobe do his work. If Dwight gets in his groove, then its over. Dwight is such a physical presence, and almost every night he gets a double double and maybe 3-5 blocks. He's ridiculously good.

A key to the game, will Fisher be able to keep up his strong outside play? He wasn't really impressive until late into the last series. The thing is neither of these teams play too consistently and both are prone to mistakes and bad nights. It just depends who will be there to pull their team out, Kobe or Dwight?

[leftyinthepen]

I hope this thread doesn't curse them........the other thread was bringing good mojo

only if good days picks the lakers....

[onetriphudson]

The Lakers got this one.

[chargerfan1978]

The Lakers got this one.

Or fuhgeddabowdit.

[chargerfan1978]

There are so many factors to include when discussing this matchup. Will Bynum be strong enough to gaurd Dwight? Will Orlando's shooters have the same success? Will anyone on the Magic be able to stop Kobe? Any number of these are big.

My take, Lakers in 6 or 7. If Lakers are to win they need to keep the game close until the last 3/4 minutes, get Howard to foul out, and let Kobe do his work. If Dwight gets in his groove, then its over. Dwight is such a physical presence, and almost every night he gets a double double and maybe 3-5 blocks. He's ridiculously good.

A key to the game, will Fisher be able to keep up his strong outside play? He wasn't really impressive until late into the last series. The thing is neither of these teams play too consistently and both are prone to mistakes and bad nights. It just depends who will be there to pull their team out, Kobe or Dwight?


That's why I thought of Odom starting instead of Bynum. Bynum can split time with Gasol on Howard. Odom can run around with Lewis.

However, I think even Gasol can run around with Lewis as well. Thus, his length can contest Lewis' trey game.

As far as the possible backcourt return of Jameer Nelson. I predict Kobe on him, and Vujacic on Lee. I think Odom would even need to cover Hedo with Gasol and Bynum on the floor.

So many possible matchups to cook-up and cover . . . .

[TONE]

Lets go lakerssssssssss !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Good Days Last2]

only if good days picks the lakers....

As chance might have it.. I hereby pick the Lakers to win in 7.

[howard]

That's why I'm thought of Odom starting instead of Bynum. Bynum can split time with Gasol on Howard. Odom can run around with Lewis.

However, I think even Gasol can run around with Lewis as well. Thus, his length can contest Lewis' trey game.

As far as the possible backcourt return of Jameer Nelson. I predict Kobe on him, and Vujacic on Lee. I think Odom would even need to cover Hedo with Gasol and Bynum on the floor.

So many possible matchups to cook-up and cover . . . .

Yeah should be a good series, so many different scenarios. I also wanna see Ariza be clutch again, kids amazingly good at helping the Lakers when they really need it

[GoTomlinson]

heh why choose the lakers over the clippers??

;)

Asks the guy who roots for a team 2000 miles away from San Diego...

Maybe because the Clippers were only in San Diego for six seasons and moved before many of us were born or old enough to shoot a basketball? Dur........

[GoTomlinson]

only if good days picks the lakers....

No, it goes by the same rules as that movie "Angels in the Outfield." The curse does not apply to championship games. I think he picked the Celtics to win further validating this claim.

[xCharger Carlx]

then where was i talking to you?

Who were you talking to then? You made no indication in your post.

[chargerfan1978]

Yeah should be a good series, so many different scenarios. I also wanna see Ariza be clutch again, kids amazingly good at helping the Lakers when they really need it

Lamar needs to dominate in one area, I think. Whether it's boards or high 10's in points. Of course, if he double-doubles - more power to the Lakers. Definitely, though, the Lakers need to spread the floor. 3's need to come in from every spot from Ariza, Fisher, Odom, and Sasha. Defensively, Ariza has to lock down Hedo and sometimes Lee.

[GoTomlinson]

Lamar needs to dominate in one area, I think. Whether it's boards or high 10's in points. Of course, if he double-doubles - more power to the Lakers. Definitely, though, the Lakers need to spread the floor. 3's need to come in from every spot from Ariza, Fisher, Odom, and Sasha. Defensively, Ariza has to lock down Hedo and sometimes Lee.

What a blessing Ariza has turned into by the way. He is that championship caliber role player who meets and exceeds expecations among big names in the starting lineup.

[chargerfan1978]

Yeah should be a good series, so many different scenarios. I also wanna see Ariza be clutch again, kids amazingly good at helping the Lakers when they really need it


Get Howard clumsy moving block to block, and draw up fouls on him - get this dude in trouble. Ariza, Odom, Gasol are good passers. It's hard to bang against Howard - weakside cuts will get him off balance.

[chargerfan1978]

What a blessing Ariza has turned into by the way. He is that championship caliber role player who meets and exceeds expecations among big names in the starting lineup.


He just had to bust his foot up in practice. Tough to still say, the Lakers would have won it last season wtih Bynum as well. The Celtics were straight loaded enough with P.J. Brown and James Posey. Nonetheless, the Lakers were still short-handed and still made the 2008 Finals. Ariza would have easily taken over Radmanovic's spot last season. But, hey, it's tje 2009 Finals. Let's hope Ariza continues to thrive.

[GoTomlinson]

He just had to bust his foot up in practice. Tough to still say, the Lakers would have won it last season wtih Bynum as well. The Celtics were straight loaded enough with P.J. Brown and James Posey. Nonetheless, the Lakers were still short-handed and still made the 2008 Finals. Ariza would have easily taken over Radmanovic's spot last season. But, hey, it's tje 2009 Finals. Let's hope Ariza continues to thrive.

It would also be nice to see:

-Bynum get mean
-The machine catch on fire for a game or two
-Kobe take it right at Mr. Dwight and create some fouls

The Lakers head into the Finals with their best peformance in the playoffs but the Magic anted up themselves. Couldn't be more satisfied with this match-up. Is it Thursday yet.

[chargerfan1978]

It would also be nice to see:

-Bynum get mean
-The machine catch on fire for a game or two
-Kobe take it right at Mr. Dwight and create some fouls

The Lakers head into the Finals with their best peformance in the playoffs but the Magic anted up themselves. Couldn't be more satisfied with this match-up. Is it Thursday yet.


Howard's got too much pride - Kobe will take it too him - and Howard will get clumsy. Yes, it is freakin' taking forever for Game 1 to come.

[iR4G3]

Magic in 6*

The Magic live and d*e by the 3.
Lakers wont be able to stop that and if they do they wont be able to contain dwight howard fast enough.

[StevenSD]

Asks the guy who roots for a team 2000 miles away from San Diego...

Maybe because the Clippers were only in San Diego for six seasons and moved before many of us were born or old enough to shoot a basketball? Dur........

so still, why not the Clippers? Soley for the fact that between the two, they were actually here in SD.

And just so you know, I root for Orlando because that's where I was born and raised, pretty legit reason if you ask me, not some bandwagon ride.


Who were you talking to then? You made no indication in your post.

obviously people that LIVE in San Diego and root for the lakers

[leftyinthepen]

As chance might have it.. I hereby pick the Lakers to win in 7.

that's the spirit...

[aQB]

so still, why not the Clippers? Soley for the fact that between the two, they were actually here in SD.

And just so you know, I root for Orlando because that's where I was born and raised, pretty legit reason if you ask me, not some bandwagon ride.




obviously people that LIVE in San Diego and root for the lakers
so, how about people who have lived in San Diego and LA? Haha.

Either way, I don't understand your reasoning. Yeah, there are plenty of bandwagon fans for the Lakers, but just because some people root for them living in SD justifies them as one? Come on, they're the closest basketball team to SD aside from the Clippers.

Anyway, I bet most people you are arguing to, telling them to root for the Clippers instead of Lakers just because they used to be a San Diego team is kind of pointless. They probably weren't even born when we last saw the San Diego Clippers.

With your logic, Chargers used to be LA Chargers so that makes it legit for San Diego fans to root for LA teams; and its totally legit for LA people to root for the Raiders, Rams, and Chargers at the same time...! ...For the sole reason that they used to be teams in LA.

[chargerfan1978]

so, how about people who have lived in San Diego and LA? Haha.

Either way, I don't understand your reasoning. Yeah, there are plenty of bandwagon fans for the Lakers, but just because some people root for them living in SD justifies them as one? Come on, they're the closest basketball team to SD aside from the Clippers.

Anyway, I bet most people you are arguing to, telling them to root for the Clippers instead of Lakers just because they used to be a San Diego team is kind of pointless. They probably weren't even born when we last saw the San Diego Clippers.

With your logic, Chargers used to be LA Chargers so that makes it legit for San Diego fans to root for LA teams; and its totally legit for LA people to root for the Raiders, Rams, and Chargers at the same time...! ...For the sole reason that they used to be teams in LA.


HAHAHAHA . . . hmmmmm, my dad's been a Laker fan since the Philippines. Third world countries are limited with American sports so who would PI networks get? Mostly, just the big market teams. So, he loved Jerry West and Wilt. Just so happens he gets stationed in Long Beach, then I come along. We moved to here, and he followed the Clippers, Rams, Chargers, USC, UCLA, and the Lakers. Dodgers and Padres, same thing. To him, he has the obvious choices of all of 'the Southern California region'. Air Coryell and Big Hands was more exciting - even though Roman Gabriel was half-Filipino. Marcus Allen - an SD product - was more exciting. I'd have to ask him why he switched to Padres. I'm just the son that followed the father.

Well, it could be worse. I could've used all this to jump on the faider bandwagon in 1984. However, my father used the Holy Roller to explain why everyone hates a cheater.

[GoTomlinson]

so still, why not the Clippers? Soley for the fact that between the two, they were actually here in SD.

And just so you know, I root for Orlando because that's where I was born and raised, pretty legit reason if you ask me, not some bandwagon ride.




obviously people that LIVE in San Diego and root for the lakers

Then why don't YOU root for the Dolphins, Buccaneers, or Jaguars?

BTW, I was born in LA, though it really doesn't matter. Oh wait, by that logic I should be a Raiders fan because they once played there but I guess I'm nothing but a Chargers Bandwagon fan.

See how stupid this is getting?

Later Gator.

[GoTomlinson]

Obama Picks the Lakers to win in Game Six:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4225693

[leftyinthepen]

Obama Picks the Lakers to win in Game Six:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4225693

he did pick the Steelers in the super bowl....

but then again, last days also picked the lakers....

[aQB]

HAHAHAHA . . . hmmmmm, my dad's been a Laker fan since the Philippines. Third world countries are limited with American sports so who would PI networks get? Mostly, just the big market teams. So, he loved Jerry West and Wilt. Just so happens he gets stationed in Long Beach, then I come along. We moved to here, and he followed the Clippers, Rams, Chargers, USC, UCLA, and the Lakers. Dodgers and Padres, same thing. To him, he has the obvious choices of all of 'the Southern California region'. Air Coryell and Big Hands was more exciting - even though Roman Gabriel was half-Filipino. Marcus Allen - an SD product - was more exciting. I'd have to ask him why he switched to Padres. I'm just the son that followed the father.

Well, it could be worse. I could've used all this to jump on the faider bandwagon in 1984. However, my father used the Holy Roller to explain why everyone hates a cheater.
I'm not sure if you understood my post or not. Lol. Then again, reading the red made me realize that you didn't understand my post towards StevenSD. Oh well.

[aQB]

Then why don't YOU root for the Dolphins, Buccaneers, or Jaguars?

^^

:logo:logo:logo:logo

[chargerfan1978]

Then why don't YOU root for the Dolphins, Buccaneers, or Jaguars?

BTW, I was born in LA, though it really doesn't matter. Oh wait, by that logic I should be a Raiders fan because they once played there but I guess I'm nothing but a Chargers Bandwagon fan.

See how stupid this is getting?

Later Gator.

30+ hours to go . . . . . .

Darn, this is taking too long.

[chargerfan1978]

I'm not sure if you understood my post or not. Lol. Then again, reading the red made me realize that you didn't understand my post towards StevenSD. Oh well.

I guess I was trying to show a little justification without getting into a big ol' debate on 'why' and 'how'.

[StevenSD]

Then why don't YOU root for the Dolphins, Buccaneers, or Jaguars?

Were any of of those teams from Orlando????? Herm...

I didn't give a **** about football until I moved out here (2001). Thanks for checking.

BTW, I was born in LA, though it really doesn't matter.

lol i feel sorry for you.

Oh wait, by that logic I should be a Raiders fan because they once played there but I guess I'm nothing but a Chargers Bandwagon fan.

pretty much, you nailed it ;)

See how stupid this is getting?

Later Gator.

I fail to see your rationalization.

And LOL at you saying Obama says LA will win, so what that president actually likes sports, ESPN is gawing over that wayy too much. News flash, Obama hasn't been right about the economics and so forth, but go ahead and gloat about him picking the Lakers

[Good Days Last2]

And LOL at you saying Obama says LA will win, so what that president actually likes sports, ESPN is gawing over that wayy too much. News flash, Obama hasn't been right about the economics and so forth, but go ahead and gloat about him picking the Lakers

Ha, I laughed... He'll probably apologize for picking the wrong team when it's all said and done...

[GoTomlinson]

Were any of of those teams from Orlando????? Herm...

I didn't give a **** about football until I moved out here (2001). Thanks for checking.




Dude why didn't you just say it earlier? If you would have told us you were a fan of the Chargers for a mighty 8 years we would have bowed down to you days ago. 8 years!

All Hail Emperor Steven! Notice to all:

Please provide your 37 page background check form so Emperor Steven can analyze your level of bandwagondom and conform them to his point of view.

This message has been approved by president Obama.

[GoTomlinson]

Ha, I laughed... He'll probably apologize for picking the wrong team when it's all said and done...

I was actually hoping your Lakers pick would have been genuine so we could see if the curse of GDL2 really is immune to Championship play.

[chargerfan1978]

I didn't give a **** about football until I moved out here (2001). Thanks for checking.



What?! All of Florida shuts down for Miami vs. Florida State or Florida vs. Florida State football games. You CANNOT be from Florida . . . ;)

[chargerfan1978]

Dude why didn't you just say it earlier? If you would have told us you were a fan of the Chargers for a mighty 8 years we would have bowed down to you days ago. 8 years!

All Hail Emperor Steven! Notice to all:

Please provide your 37 page background check form so Emperor Steven can analyze your level of bandwagondom and conform them to his point of view.

This message has been approved by president Obama.

My 31 years of being a Charger fan are null and void, because I've affiliated myself with the city of Los Angeles.

What's a good screen name - nomad2009? How about SDtraitor2009?:layup:LightsOut:

Oh yeah . . . LAKERS IN 6.

[chargerfan1978]

Obama Picks the Lakers to win in Game Six:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4225693


He's just another sports fan like everyone else here - and I'm staying Republican.:p

[chargerfan1978]

[quote=GoTomlinson;2497402
BTW, I was born in LA, though it really doesn't matter. Oh wait, by that logic I should be a Raiders fan because they once played there but I guess I'm nothing but a Chargers Bandwagon fan.
[/quote]


I hopped on the bandwagon in 1978.

Lamar better double-double in one of these games at home.

[stevge88]

In a bit of news, 2K Sports is going to begin advertising its new basketball video game, NBA 2K10, Thursday and the cover athlete is Kobe Bryant.

During the ad campaign rollout, four potential covers will be shown and viewers will vote on which image they'd prefer to see when the game is available Oct. 6.
Link (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-media-nba4-2009jun04,0,7141021.story)


"NBA 2K10": Kobe's Got It Covered
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4229523

http://a.espncdn.com/media/videogames/photo/2009/0601/NBA2k10_cover1_560.jpg
http://a.espncdn.com/media/videogames/photo/2009/0601/NBA2k10_cover2_560.jpg
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[FCBolt]

Link (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-media-nba4-2009jun04,0,7141021.story)


"NBA 2K10": Kobe's Got It Covered
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4229523






Whoa--that kind of curse almost makes me want to go Magic in 5, but I'll stick with Magic in 6...

Where's the GDL2 curse at btw?

[chargerfan1978]

Link (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-media-nba4-2009jun04,0,7141021.story)


"NBA 2K10": Kobe's Got It Covered
http://sports.espn.go.com/videogames/news/story?id=4229523

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^^ What is this? Another Spike Lee Joint off of "Kobe Doin' Work"? Which was good, by the way.

[leftyinthepen]

And LOL at you saying Obama says LA will win, so what that president actually likes sports, ESPN is gawing over that wayy too much. News flash, Obama hasn't been right about the economics and so forth, but go ahead and gloat about him picking the Lakers

sports and the economy are two entirely different things.....

it may take years for anyone to *fix* the economy...but a sporting event will have a definite ending....

don't forget, obama correctly picked the super bowl....not sure what his bracket looked like for march madness...nice to see a president actually pick teams instead of staying neutral not to piss anyone off....he, like the rest of us, probably sees sports as a kind of release, and in these times, a healthy release like sports is a good thing...

[chargerfan1978]

Whoa--that kind of curse almost makes me want to go Magic in 5, but I'll stick with Magic in 6...

Where's the GDL2 curse at btw?


What's goin' on FC? Less than 11 hours, babeeeeeeeeee . . . .

Tryin' to get ready an enjoy, because I hate June-July of any year.

[leftyinthepen]

My 31 years of being a Charger fan are null and void, because I've affiliated myself with the city of Los Angeles.

What's a good screen name - nomad2009? How about SDtraitor2009?:layup:LightsOut:

Oh yeah . . . LAKERS IN 6.


hell, i can't even remember how long i've been a charger fan....kind of like birthdays, after a while, you just celebrate and eat cake....

[leftyinthepen]

I hear Shaq is rooting for Kobe....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4229051

"I am saying it today and today only," Shaq tweeted. "I want kobe bryant to get number four, spread da word."

not sure if he is trying to reverse the mojo on kobe, trying to get into his head, or if he is really rooting for kobe...who knows....all i know, is that they are the typical married couple...can't be together, and when they are apart, it's so obvious that they miss each other so bad they take verbal jabs at one another....if shaq didn't love kobe so much, he never would say anything about him...

it's almost sickening....

anyway, i still don't know how i would bet on this series...things have to fall in place for the magic to win, and i am not sure that can happen...is bynum going to play at all? right now, that kid is just soft...the first time howard bangs into him, will be the last, because bynum will probably turtle and phil will bench him...so many times laker fans said "fear the bynum!"...not sure if anyone should use the words fear and bynum together unless fear is the adjective to bynum's noun...maybe he grows into his potential, maybe he doesn't, but it's got to be frustrating....oh well, whatever..

if the magic can shoot the three like they did against cleveland, magic win...if they don't, lakers win....it's that simple....

can they play box and one defense in the NBA? not that it would work against Kobe, but it might work in stretches, especailly in those times when his supporting cast are just standing around watching....kobe would still drop 40, but the rest of the team will probably struggle...kobe will probably drop 40 if they put an electrical shocking force field around the rim....but will his team mates show up?

[iR4G3]

Magic will win. Easy.

[iR4G3]

Kobe will be the greatest player to never win a Championship alone.

[FCBolt]

What's goin' on FC? Less than 11 hours, babeeeeeeeeee . . . .

Tryin' to get ready an enjoy, because I hate June-July of any year.

yep it's deadsville in the sportsworld. Though this year we'll be hangin on the edge of our seats wondering how long it well be before the French media and cycling powers that be set Lance Armstrong up with a postive drug test.

Hopefully ole Lance won't help them out ....

This is gonna be interesting tonight.
How's Bynum gonna defend Howard?
How's Lewis gonna defend Gasol?
Will Lewis rain 3s?
Is Nelson's 'return' a strategum to get Jackson to waste time figuring out how to stop him? Or is he ready to burn the Lakers once more?

Should be a good one!

[chargerfan1978]

I hear Shaq is rooting for Kobe....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4229051



not sure if he is trying to reverse the mojo on kobe, trying to get into his head, or if he is really rooting for kobe...who knows....all i know, is that they are the typical married couple...can't be together, and when they are apart, it's so obvious that they miss each other so bad they take verbal jabs at one another....if shaq didn't love kobe so much, he never would say anything about him...

it's almost sickening....



Shaq doing the 'you tha man' double finger-point from the Suns bench across to Kobe at the Lakers bench during a Suns game. Didn't he sort of state he'd like to retire as a Laker, too? Thanks Shaq, but no thanks.

[chargerfan1978]

How's Bynum gonna defend Howard?
How's Lewis gonna defend Gasol?
Will Lewis rain 3s?
Is Nelson's 'return' a strategum to get Jackson to waste time figuring out how to stop him? Or is he ready to burn the Lakers once more?

Should be a good one!

Boy, he is showing his age in these playoffs. I know his focus is defending the paint and getting boards - but don't foul twice within 4 minutes! Lewis can't defend Gasol. But, can Gasol run around the half court checking Lewis? Gasol's the Lakers post presence. When Bynum was out, Gasol was gettin the job done clocking 40+ minutes. No doubt, though, Bynum will be iso vs. Howard. Orlando has a true inside-out explosive offense that will spread the 3- and 4-defenders away from the lane. If Nelson plays, Fisher will be the initial matchup. Shannon Brown should be obvious back-up in this scenario.

[FCBolt]

Boy, he is showing his age in these playoffs. I know his focus is defending the paint and getting boards - but don't foul twice within 4 minutes! Lewis can't defend Gasol. But, can Gasol run around the half court checking Lewis? Gasol's the Lakers post presence. When Bynum was out, Gasol was gettin the job done clocking 40+ minutes. No doubt, though, Bynum will be iso vs. Howard. Orlando has a true inside-out explosive offense that will spread the 3- and 4-defenders away from the lane. If Nelson plays, Fisher will be the initial matchup. Shannon Brown should be obvious back-up in this scenario.

Yep--I expect both Gasol and Howard to get 20+ each game.

Nelson is the wildcard.

[chargerfan1978]

yep it's deadsville in the sportsworld.


If the Lakers season were already over, this is when I'd be counting the days for Chargers mini-camps.

[MikeTheBlade]

spread da word, i want kobe to get number four dog.


spread da word... spread dat

[RAWDOGG]

It's almost here................FINALLY!

[xCharger Carlx]

Yep--I expect both Gasol and Howard to get 20+ each game.

Nelson is the wildcard.

Nelson's not returning.

[RAWDOGG]

Nelson's not returning.

I just read he might just miss game 1

[GoTomlinson]

I just read he might just miss game 1

Regarding his return...

Literally? Possibly.

Figuratively? No.

It's fair to say Andrew Bynum has not been able to return to the playoffs.

[GoTomlinson]

Whoa--that kind of curse almost makes me want to go Magic in 5, but I'll stick with Magic in 6...

Where's the GDL2 curse at btw?

The pick was for the Lakers, but other posts have hinted that the pick was not genuine (picking the Lakers soley on the fact that it will curse them).

Secondly, the curse follows "Angels in the Outfield" guidelines meaning that the curse is exempt to Championship play.

[chargerfan1978]

The pick was for the Lakers, but other posts have hinted that the pick was not genuine (picking the Lakers soley on the fact that it will curse them).

Secondly, the curse follows "Angels in the Outfield" guidelines meaning that the curse is exempt to Championship play.


So what's the curse on Kobe - the Shaq-fu curse? Oh, my bad, he is publicly lifting the curse - absolving Kobe from the demigods of loserville.

Whatever, homes. :rolleyes:

[chargerfan1978]

I just read he might just miss game 1


Read that, too. He's pulling a KG.

[Good Days Last2]

Nelson will play. GDL2 guarantee.

[StevenSD]

Read that, too. He's pulling a KG.

how's he pulling a KG? He's ACTUALLY practicing with the team, and has a chance to return for game 3 or 4... not exactly pulling a KG HAHAHAHAHAHA

Magic will take game 1 tonight :D

[chargerfan1978]

how's he pulling a KG? He's ACTUALLY practicing with the team, and has a chance to return for game 3 or 4... not exactly pulling a KG HAHAHAHAHAHA

Magic will take game 1 tonight :D


Maybe he was just side-coaching the bigs.

[stevge88]

Lil Wayne - Kobe Bryant (Official Song) NEW
YouTube - Lil Wayne - Kobe Bryant (Official Song) (NEW NEW NEW) (HOT HOT HOT) (Download Link)
Download: http://www.zshare.net/audio/6094495399062b46/

[vodka&boltzs]

Sick song. lil wayne killed the beat. Im hyped lets get that game started already.

[Good Days Last2]

Sick song. lil wayne killed the beat. Im hyped lets get that game started already.

Terrible beat. And Wayne doesn't sound right in that song.

[Tomlinson21]

:LightsOut:GO LAKERS!!!!!!! :LightsOut:

[StevenSD]

Maybe he was just side-coaching the bigs.

so much for your KG theory

Nelson is playing at a high level ATM, making a lot of great plays

[chargerfan1978]

so much for your KG theory

Nelson is playing at a high level ATM, making a lot of great plays


He's been neutralized shortly after your post. Fisher can post-up on him any day of the week. 10 point lead, homes.

[FCBolt]

This sucks.

I guess there's a reason the Magic just barely got by a Garnett-less Celtics team...

[chargerfan1978]

Magic will win. Easy.


Another rook.

[chargerfan1978]

so much for your KG theory

Nelson is playing at a high level ATM, making a lot of great plays


Or was he NON-FACTOR again. :LightsOut::LightsOut:

24 point lead . . . . . fellow San Diegan. 12 mo' minutes - Kobe can sit and ice up.

I reside in Mira Mesa - come on over and we can watch the Lakers win on my HD. BYOB, please.

[GoTomlinson]

He's been neutralized shortly after your post. Fisher can post-up on him any day of the week. 10 point lead, homes.

LOL. Thanks for calling out that horribly timing post of his.

[chargerfan1978]

LOL. Thanks for calling out that horribly timing post of his.


They are a laughing stock up in here.

[Tomlinson21]

Howard looks lost on that bench...that's sad. He's a great player. He'll bounce back and make this a series hopefully.

But hey - Go Lakers!!!!! They're just playing with the Magic right now.

[GoTomlinson]

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5960/46130barackobamausinghi.jpg

[Good Days Last2]

Nelson will play. GDL2 guarantee.

Who said it? That's me. Oh yeah.

Now to prepare my 5,000th post....

Night all!

[chargerfan1978]

Oh yeah. It was easy. 25 point lead during garbage time. Game 1 Lakers.

Is it Sunday, yet??

[Tomlinson21]

LAKERS WIN GAME 1 100 - 75

Like a walk in the park, baby...

[chargerfan1978]

LAKERS WIN GAME 1 100 - 75

Like a walk in the park, baby...


I know I'm blind, but where are my sunglasses.

[GoTomlinson]

I know I'm blind, but where are my sunglasses.

Buts thats all I saw on my HD tv: just a sea of yellow taking this game over in a flash!

[Tomlinson21]

I know I'm blind, but where are my sunglasses.

my bad. sorry!

hahahahah!!!!!:Bolt:

[Tomlinson21]

Buts thats all I saw on my HD tv: just a sea of yellow taking this game over in a flash!

I like that. :Cheers:

Thanks to the Nuggets for getting us battle tested for this NBA Finals. Seriously.

[chargerfan1978]

Buts thats all I saw on my HD tv: just a sea of yellow taking this game over in a flash!


Not that fluorescent, highliter yellow . . . . HAHAHAHAHA. It's all good, just pokin' fun. The smack layeth down by the Lakers.

[GoTomlinson]

Kobe Bryant: "It's no big deal, it's one game."

You know he is going to have his team ready this whole series.

[vodka&boltzs]

Well wee saw it all, Orlando rely too much on there 3 point game and when they have an off night it's over. Dwight said in his post conf. That it wasn't a big deal but he did no say it very confidently. He got shutdown and whenever Howard got the ball in the low post the lakers d looked like a swarm if bees attacking him. Great game and it's a great boost for the lakers to win game one by so much. Where is the rookie that said the magic would win easy??!! Oh he is probably hugging his Howard poster right now
and telling it " it's ok buddy we will get them next time". Hahaha guppy

[chargerfan1978]

Well wee saw it all, Orlando rely too much on there 3 point game and when they have an off night it's over. Dwight said in his post conf. That it wasn't a big deal but he did no say it very confidently. He got shutdown and whenever Howard got the ball in the low post the lakers d looked like a swarm if bees attacking him. Great game and it's a great boost for the lakers to win game one by so much. Where is the rookie that said the magic would win easy??!! Oh he is probably hugging his Howard poster right now
and telling it " it's ok buddy we will get them next time". Hahaha guppy


Jab and run away . . . . HAHAHAHAHAHA

[RAWDOGG]

Who said it? That's me. Oh yeah.

Now to prepare my 5,000th post....

Night all!

after many many many many many many false presictions you finally got one right..............I guess anything is possible

[RAWDOGG]

a great complete game just like game 6 in the Thuggets series............is it almost Sunday yet?

[chargerfan1978]

The anti-Laker nation is going to cackle that were poppin' champagne over a game 1 win. Remember13and1 is going to think we're hoisting a game 1 trophy 1 or some junk like that.

Absolutely, not. Like Kobe says, "it's no big deal".

This is really more like a Laker-hater roast session.

[vodka&boltzs]

Ya where us 13 and 1?? I'm waiting to hear what he has to say.

[Remember13and1?]

I feel special that you guys are awaiting my post...

Well, I watched the game, here's what I gotta say:

LIKED: Kobe's effort, Lakers Coaching staff half time adjustment, the first two quarters were pretty even but they did change major things in the third to blow it away.

DISLIKED: Magics effort, they've been comeback kids for a few games now, seems they think it will happen always...

Officiating was garbage, in the 3rd quarter it seemed every call was going the Lakers way and they were getting the red carpet to the free throw line...

It's just game one, so calm down folks. I Know Phil Jackson is 43-0 in series when winning game one, but hey, the Celtics were 32-0 in game sevens and the Magic beat them.

Anything can happen, I think everyone but Kobe will think game two is a gimme and fall into a trap, Magic will play a lot harder, it will be close but they win it in the last 5 minutes on a run.

Magic take game 2, 4, 5 and 7.

[GoTomlinson]

after many many many many many many false presictions you finally got one right..............I guess anything is possible

I've said it twice now before the series... the curse of GoodDaysLast2 does not apply to championship games, under Angles in the Outfield rules.

[SJSUPhil]

I'm an old school Lakers fan (from the Wilt Chamberlain era.) But I don't like Kobe. The TEAM comes first though, so Lakers in six.

[chargerfan1978]

I feel special that you guys are awaiting my post...

Well, I watched the game, here's what I gotta say:

LIKED: Kobe's effort, Lakers Coaching staff half time adjustment, the first two quarters were pretty even but they did change major things in the third to blow it away.

DISLIKED: Magics effort, they've been comeback kids for a few games now, seems they think it will happen always...

Officiating was garbage, in the 3rd quarter it seemed every call was going the Lakers way and they were getting the red carpet to the free throw line...

It's just game one, so calm down folks. I Know Phil Jackson is 43-0 in series when winning game one, but hey, the Celtics were 32-0 in game sevens and the Magic beat them.

Anything can happen, I think everyone but Kobe will think game two is a gimme and fall into a trap, Magic will play a lot harder, it will be close but they win it in the last 5 minutes on a run.

Magic take game 2, 4, 5 and 7.

No one's excited over a game 1 victory, we're just making fun of you people and predictions.

Ingenious pillow or banner. Where teams lose, fans google to make themselves feel better because their team does not.

I saw a buy in Vegas wearing a 'Laker' jersey with all the right color scheme. However, it said Fakers instead. What a loser - it looked stupid as hell.

LOCK DOWN D AND BOARDS
Magic will come out firing. But, we'll see. That was some damn good defensive rotating. Help defense, being helped, another helper helping the helper. I was laughing at couple plays where Howard and Nelson were playing hot potato - Orlando scored neither times. I guess that's the downside when your bread-and-butter offense is a 2-man feed, the others sit on the arc, and no-one cuts. Ariza SUFFOCATED Hedo. Suffocated, to the point where Ariza in not needed for offense. If it wasn't Ariza, then it was Odom. Speaking of Odom, he neutralized Lewis. He was very instrumental with 14 rebounds, to outscore the Magic 55-41. Open stances within 5 feet, close out and contest any perimeter shooter.


Lakers will take Game 2. Desperation will give the 1st game in Orlando, and the LAST GAME in Orlando. The Lakers will take game 4 in Orlando, and win the trophy at back at Staples.

[leftyinthepen]

could it be curse of the white shoes?

everyone on the magic last night wore black shoes, except for howard...(uni watch)

not a team player if you ask me...probably a bigger reason why his team didn't come through last night...if these high priced players would just quit thinking of themselves, and just worry about the team, maybe they will be holding the O'Brien trophy when it's all said and done....

[chargerfan1978]

could it be curse of the white shoes?

everyone on the magic last night wore black shoes, except for howard...(uni watch)

not a team player if you ask me...probably a bigger reason why his team didn't come through last night...if these high priced players would just quit thinking of themselves, and just worry about the team, maybe they will be holding the O'Brien trophy when it's all said and done....

Oh, here we go - more curses.

[FCBolt]

Oh, here we go - more curses.

I curse curses :LightsOut:

[1.21Gigawatts]

Oh, here we go - more curses.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1076/boromir.jpg

Curse you and all the halflings!



No one's excited over a game 1 victory, we're just making fun of you people and predictions.


What do you mean "you people?"

http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/robertdjr.jpg





I still say Lakers will win in 7.

[chargerfan1978]

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1076/boromir.jpg

Curse you and all the halflings!





What do you mean "you people?"

http://www.filmofilia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/robertdjr.jpg





I still say Lakers will win in 7.


You people who love curses. OMG, I put my right shoe on first before the left . . . now the Lakers are going to lose. :eek:

[chargerfan1978]

I curse curses :LightsOut:


My voodoo doll of Kenyon Martin apparently worked. Now, I need to read some tea leaves while I have the Superman movie theme playing in my iPod. :LightsOut::LightsOut:

[FCBolt]

My voodoo doll of Kenyon Martin apparently worked. Now, I need to read some tea leaves while I have the Superman movie theme playing in my iPod. :LightsOut::LightsOut:

damn, I gotta get me a Kobe doll...

[chargerfan1978]

damn, I gotta get me a Kobe doll...


touche'. :layup

[Clint Beastwood]

I feel special that you guys are awaiting my post...

Well, I watched the game, here's what I gotta say:

LIKED: Kobe's effort, Lakers Coaching staff half time adjustment, the first two quarters were pretty even but they did change major things in the third to blow it away.

DISLIKED: Magics effort, they've been comeback kids for a few games now, seems they think it will happen always...

Officiating was garbage, in the 3rd quarter it seemed every call was going the Lakers way and they were getting the red carpet to the free throw line...

It's just game one, so calm down folks. I Know Phil Jackson is 43-0 in series when winning game one, but hey, the Celtics were 32-0 in game sevens and the Magic beat them.

Anything can happen, I think everyone but Kobe will think game two is a gimme and fall into a trap, Magic will play a lot harder, it will be close but they win it in the last 5 minutes on a run.

Magic take game 2, 4, 5 and 7.


lmao, sweet post dude, pretty sure it wasnt even through 2 quarters, if it were, the lakers would not have walked into halftime up ten points.

The officiating was garbage? Wow, sure that counted for the 25 points. You should think before you post next time before making retarded comments like that...."red carpet treatment to the line"? Did you even watch the game? It was Orlando who shot 29 free throw attempts to the lakers 19....

[vodka&boltzs]

I hope the magics are in the next SI cover. Look at what happend to the cavs, Lebron was on the cover and the lost, then my prediction about Kmart being on the next cover and looked what happened. The curse only works on everyone except the lakers.

[Remember13and1?]

Ya and like 10+ of those FTA for Orlando were Dwight, they kept fouling him cuz he's not so great at making them.

Take away those, and tell me did you notice any other Magic players going to the line alot?

Seemed like Kobe was at the line ever minute.

[JCDavey]

kobe's 3 wins from proving he's better than shaq

i didn't think he'd ever do it without another star player near his level

[Remember13and1?]

It's Kobe's fault, if he didn't have such an attitude and ball hog, him and Shaq could have more rings than Jordan I guarantee.

[Clint Beastwood]

Ya and like 10+ of those FTA for Orlando were Dwight, they kept fouling him cuz he's not so great at making them.

Take away those, and tell me did you notice any other Magic players going to the line alot?

Seemed like Kobe was at the line ever minute.


take away Dwights attempts and take away Kobe's attempts, the magic still shot more free throws than the lakers, plus kobe handles/touches the ball alot more than dwight when the offenses are being ran.....dont know what you're crying about...

[GoTomlinson]

take away Dwights attempts and take away Kobe's attempts, the magic still shot more free throws than the lakers, plus kobe handles/touches the ball alot more than dwight when the offenses are being ran.....dont know what you're crying about...

It's pretty simple. The Lakers.

[GoTomlinson]

YouTube - SHAQ VS BYNUM

[vodka&boltzs]

It's Kobe's fault, if he didn't have such an attitude and ball hog, him and Shaq could have more rings than Jordan I guarantee.
for someone that hates the lakers soo much you sound like you use to be a fan of shaq and once they broke up shaq and kobe you decided to go with another team, too bad your team sucks ass. Stop complaining about how kobe was getting all the calls, if I remember correctly the magic were getting all the call at the end of the 1st quarter so it cancels out. Kobe a ball hog, yes back int he day but if the magic are going to give him a clear jumper he should take it. Even howard said that they gave him too much space and that they should know better. Stop hatin son

[vodka&boltzs]

Bynum will come around this series, he handled himself good and then picked up 2 stupid fouls as usual but over all he took care of business. When the magic get D up like they did they cant win point blank. Im telling you kobe has this team hyped and ready to go, the magic are going to fall under the pressure of being in the finals and maybe win 1 or 2

[Remember13and1?]

FYI I do like Shaq, I don't like Kobe. Everyone who knows something about bball will tell ya, Kobe is the reason for the split and eventual downfall of the Lakers, he was selfish and immature as a younger player. Admit it. Now he finally grew up, and realized that crap hasn't got him a ring, teamwork can.

Wow I like how I'm getting personally attacked in your posts even though I don't target anyone.

[Timmet2332]

FYI I do like Shaq, I don't like Kobe. Everyone who knows something about bball will tell ya, Kobe is the reason for the split and eventual downfall of the Lakers, he was selfish and immature as a younger player. Admit it. Now he finally grew up, and realized that crap hasn't got him a ring, teamwork can.

Wow I like how I'm getting personally attacked in your posts even though I don't target anyone.

Well, if you were to read Jackson's book that was published a few months after that fateful 2003-04 season, then you would know that the Shaq/Kobe split was just as much Shaq's fault as it was Kobe's. And BTW I would hardly call 4 years removed from championship contention a "downfall." Now, being out of championship contention for 14-15 years is indeed a "downfall."

[GoTomlinson]

Well, if you were to read Jackson's book that was published a few months after that fateful 2003-04 season, then you would know that the Shaq/Kobe split was just as much Shaq's fault as it was Kobe's. And BTW I would hardly call 4 years removed from championship contention a "downfall." Now, being out of championship contention for 14-15 years is indeed a "downfall."

It's not even fun arguing with this troll. His timing is off on everything he posts.

How is it possible to apply 'downfall' to a returning Western Conference Champion team who currently holds the lead in the NBA Finals?

The stupidity in this confuses me.

I guess one missed playoff appearance = downfall

[chargerfan1978]

Ya and like 10+ of those FTA for Orlando were Dwight, they kept fouling him cuz he's not so great at making them.

Take away those, and tell me did you notice any other Magic players going to the line alot?

Seemed like Kobe was at the line ever minute.


Fundamental offensive strategy of a penetrator - go straight at the big to get him in foul trouble.

Ummmmmm yeah, the Magic are perimeter players sans Howard. Fundamental defensive strategy - don't foul a 3-point attempt.

Fundamental basketball coaching - outcoach the other coach.

Ya feel me?:LightsOut:

[chargerfan1978]

Well, if you were to read Jackson's book that was published a few months after that fateful 2003-04 season, then you would know that the Shaq/Kobe split was just as much Shaq's fault as it was Kobe's. And BTW I would hardly call 4 years removed from championship contention a "downfall." Now, being out of championship contention for 14-15 years is indeed a "downfall."


haaaaaaattttah.

[chargerfan1978]

It's not even fun arguing with this troll. His timing is off on everything he posts.

How is it possible to apply 'downfall' to a returning Western Conference Champion team who currently holds the lead in the NBA Finals?

The stupidity in this confuses me.

I guess one missed playoff appearance = downfall


I've seen more worse and more stupid.

[chargerfan1978]

It's not even fun arguing with this troll. His timing is off on everything he posts.

How is it possible to apply 'downfall' to a returning Western Conference Champion team who currently holds the lead in the NBA Finals?

The stupidity in this confuses me.

I guess one missed playoff appearance = downfall


Downfall = Rebuilding = SEASON'S OVER

[chargerfan1978]

Bynum will come around this series, he handled himself good and then picked up 2 stupid fouls as usual but over all he took care of business. When the magic get D up like they did they cant win point blank. Im telling you kobe has this team hyped and ready to go, the magic are going to fall under the pressure of being in the finals and maybe win 1 or 2


He just makes young man mistakes. Gasol uses his legs and feet to draw the offensive charge or foul. Bynum just wants to be the hatchet man. I can't blame him though sometimes. It is a battle down there and machismo can easily take over.

[chargerfan1978]

I hope the magics are in the next SI cover. Look at what happend to the cavs, Lebron was on the cover and the lost, then my prediction about Kmart being on the next cover and looked what happened. The curse only works on everyone except the lakers.


got a Dwight Howard voodoo doll on order - want one, too?

[FCBolt]

got a Dwight Howard voodoo doll on order - want one, too?

What I really need is a Phil Jackson voodoo doll.
When he said, 'we won't double Howard', I had a feeling it was bs..

[GoTomlinson]

Downfall = Rebuilding = SEASON'S OVER

Improper..... to say the least

[GoTomlinson]

I've seen more worse and more stupid.

Speaking of which, did you find the rock StevenSD is hiding under?

[vodka&boltzs]

got a Dwight Howard voodoo doll on order - want one, too?
Sure why not ill take a skip to my lue doll also.

[chargerfan1978]

Speaking of which, did you find the rock StevenSD is hiding under?


Wow, I actually forgot about that guy. Jameer Nelson's #1 brown-noser. HAHAHAHAHAHA. Maybe I offended him by inviting the dude to my house to finish Game 1.

[chargerfan1978]

What I really need is a Phil Jackson voodoo doll.
When he said, 'we won't double Howard', I had a feeling it was bs..


Nah. No one can influence the 'zen master'.

[Chargers_Saints]

Game 1: Hell...to..the..yes...

[Remember13and1?]

Wow GoTomlinson and chargerfan1978, go read my post over carefully, I can see that your brain is a little slow.

Yes I have a TV and I can see the Lakers are in the finals, the downfall I'm talking about is that they haven't won a ring in several years, with Shaq and Kobe they were capable of winning at least 3 more by now... That's what I'm saying.

Next time you resort to stupid name calling, go get a dictionary to understand what the other person is saying before you call them troll.

I have no problem with other Laker fans here, seems most of them are cool but you two are really something else, don't help the stereotypes teams have for Laker fans lol. You take this crap way to serious, it's just a game, this is just a forum thread, calm down...

[GoTomlinson]

Wow GoTomlinson and chargerfan1978, go read my post over carefully, I can see that your brain is a little slow.

Yes I have a TV and I can see the Lakers are in the finals, the downfall I'm talking about is that they haven't won a ring in several years, with Shaq and Kobe they were capable of winning at least 3 more by now... That's what I'm saying.

Next time you resort to stupid name calling, go get a dictionary to understand what the other person is saying before you call them troll.

I have no problem with other Laker fans here, seems most of them are cool but you two are really something else, don't help the stereotypes teams have for Laker fans lol. You take this crap way to serious, it's just a game, this is just a forum thread, calm down...


Or instead of criticizing us, why don't you elaborate on how the Lakers would have won "at least three championships" by now. You do realize that the most they could have won is four since then? I can't even see that happening with my Lakers homer glasses on considering that:

1) There were very strong Western Conference Teams during that span
2) Shaq has been out injured frequently and noticeably declined immediately after leaving the Lakers
3) The Lakers could not afford to bring any other decent talent between their two monster contracts.

You are saying they would have won at least three of the last four championships? Possibly four of the last four?

I feel flattered to hear this but an explanation is mandatory on such a bold statement. Go on... the spotlight is yours! I'll keep your first class fail boat reservations for two on hold. :D

[chargerfan1978]

Wow GoTomlinson and chargerfan1978, go read my post over carefully, I can see that your brain is a little slow.

Yes I have a TV and I can see the Lakers are in the finals, the downfall I'm talking about is that they haven't won a ring in several years, with Shaq and Kobe they were capable of winning at least 3 more by now... That's what I'm saying.

Next time you resort to stupid name calling, go get a dictionary to understand what the other person is saying before you call them troll.

I have no problem with other Laker fans here, seems most of them are cool but you two are really something else, don't help the stereotypes teams have for Laker fans lol. You take this crap way to serious, it's just a game, this is just a forum thread, calm down...


Nothin' slow here in my Laker lobe. Just tellin' it like it is, and speaking my opinions any way I please. Obviously, you are taking to seriously because you are taken aback with this rebuttal post. Well, boo-hoo-hoo on your Losers pillow. I don't take this crap way too serious, either. I type in this forum with pangs of elation every time.

See? -----> :mad:

[chargerfan1978]

Bynum Using Brawn… and Brain (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/2009/06/05/bynum-using-braun-and-brain/)

Published by Mike Trudell (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/author/mtrudell/)
on June 5, 2009
in Andrew Bynum (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/category/players/andrew-bynum/) and Practice News (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/category/practice-news/)
.

http://my.lakers.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/andrew_bynum_media.jpgSomewhere in L.A.’s Western Conference Semi-Final series against the Houston Rockets, two things happened to Andrew Bynum, one physical and one mental: He started to get closer to his pre-injury conditioning level just as a strategic light bulb flipped on in his head.
The 21-year-old center realized that if he committed fully to protecting the rim, rebounding and getting up and down the floor in defensive transition, the Lakers would be very hard to beat. Makes sense, right? His offense would come naturally, but couldn’t be his focus.
“I think after the Houston series everyone really realized, ‘Look this is what it is, what we need to do,’” he said after Friday’s practice. “We’re going to have to play defense. Everybody’s going to have to sacrifice offense, it will take care of itself, especially with us. We have a deep team and everybody (can) score, it’s going to come down to how many people we stop, how many stops we can get in a row.”
That mindset led to a generally productive - and underrated - series against Denver that doesn’t show up in the numbers, and culminated in the young center’s nine-point, nine-rebound performance in 22:23 of NBA Finals playing time that essentially canceled out Dwight Howard’s 12 points and 15 boards in 35 minutes.
“You have to limit his easy stuff,” said Bynum, who did exactly that as Howard mustered just one field goal on six attempts. “Make him make shots over the top of the defense, make him have to earn all of his buckets.”
Surely the Lakers would take a draw between Howard, the Defensive Player of the Year and All-NBA First Team member, and Bynum.
But rewind back a few weeks ago when Bynum struggled with unconventional matchups (Utah’s Paul Millsap, Houston’s Chuck Hayes or Carl Landry) while trying to come back from his knee injury that limited his minutes and made finding a rhythm seem more difficult than keeping his 7-foot head from hitting a door ledge. There was something besides time and increased conditioning that helped Bynum get his mind right: Watching film.
http://my.lakers.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/bynum_on_howard.jpgEarlier this week, Bynum told the Orange County Register’s Kevin Ding (http://www.ocregister.com/articles/bynum-lakers-denver-2434376-first-shots) how he was planning on defending Howard (a sample: “You’ve got to keep him as far away from the basket as possible”), because he’d already started watching tape with his teammates and coaches, including Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. As such, Bynum felt pretty comfortable with what Howard was going to do in Game 1.
“It’s definitely rewarding when that happens, and (watching film) is all part of it,” he said. “That’s something the coaching staff came to empower myself about. Cap (Abdul-Jabbar) watched film with us, came and told us, ‘Look, this is what you’re going to have to do against this guy.’”
Bynum could see what Howard wanted to do on one hand, and on the other, observe how much better the Lakers were against the Nuggets and Rockets (games five and seven specifically) when he was most active defensively. The proof was right there in front of him. True to form, his defensive focus (not to mention his eight first quarter points) certainly worked against the Magic in Game 1 of the Finals, leaving Orlando searching for a way to deal not just with the length of Bynum in the paint, but of Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, who collectively give L.A. three long and skilled post players that Orlando simply didn’t have to face in the Eastern Conference playoffs.
“I think the matchups are for us a little bit more, having L.O. out there and Pau out there,” Bynum continued. “The same advantage that they had, I think they just lost it. They had that ridiculous advantage against Cleveland where Delonte West was playing (Hedo) Turkoglu and somebody else small was playing Rashard Lewis. So now it’s a little bit different. And we’re really running them off the three-point line, that’s a big difference too. They’re swinging it around searching for that three that they were getting wide open. I think we have to just keep doing that.”
Bynum gets it.
He understands what he needs to do, what L.A. needs to do. And that’s certainly not good news for the Magic.

[StevenSD]

Speaking of which, did you find the rock StevenSD is hiding under?

? Oh sorry, I had this thing called work, and other responsabilities, I'm not hiding anywhere...

[chargerfan1978]

? Oh sorry, I had this thing called work, and other responsabilities, I'm not hiding anywhere...

Your comments weren't missed at all . . . . :layup

[Chargrfan]

Lakers will probably win because there is no-one to guard Bynum cause Howard can't guard both Bynum and Gasol

[chargerfan1978]

Lakers will probably win because there is no-one to guard Bynum cause Howard can't guard both Bynum and Gasol


Van Gundy best bet is to have both Gortat and Howard in. BUT, and it is a big ol' BUT, that leaves the bench even more thin. Lewis cannot guard Gasol, because Gasol can jump hook on him all day. The thing is Lewis is getting worked on defense, he loses his legs for his downtown offense.

[vodka&boltzs]

So just peeped out the new SI cover and dwight Howard is sharing the cover with some baseball player, anyways so he is on the cover so the SI cover curse will continue. I hope the magic lose by 30 this time.

[RAWDOGG]

So just peeped out the new SI cover and dwight Howard is sharing the cover with some baseball player, anyways so he is on the cover so the SI cover curse will continue. I hope the magic lose by 30 this time.


Nice.........but really what has Howard done to deserve the cover of SI?

[Chargrfan]

Nice.........but really what has Howard done to deserve the cover of SI?
Uhh... he was defensive player of the year and led the league in blocks and rebounds...

[vodka&boltzs]

Uhh... he was defensive player of the year and led the league in blocks and rebounds...
thats it, then shoot I should be on the cover I stole 2 bases in high school in one game. Thats a bigger deal. But his pictures is so small on the cover its hard to tell, he is on the right upper hand cover but its stil the cover so maybe the curse will let them win one instead of getting blown out in 4

[RAWDOGG]

5 o'clock tonight............can't wait!

[vodka&boltzs]

So I will crack open the bottle of goose around 3:00pm, so by 5 I should be pretty tipsy and start yelling at the tv around 5:20pm. I cant wait grey goose, wing stop and hopefully a win. That would complete a great sunday

[chargerfan1978]

thats it, then shoot I should be on the cover I stole 2 bases in high school in one game. Thats a bigger deal. But his pictures is so small on the cover its hard to tell, he is on the right upper hand cover but its stil the cover so maybe the curse will let them win one instead of getting blown out in 4


I don't pay attention to stuff like that. Anyways, Dwight Howard is a great player. No one can deny that. So, he'll get that kind of attention. As long as Lakers get the hardware, I'm cool.

[chargerfan1978]

Scouting Report

Scouting Report Lakers vs Magic
http://my.lakers.com/lakers/images/returntolcc_button.gif (http://my.lakers.com/lakers/mainMenu.html)


Sunday, Jun 7

NBA playoff series in general and NBA Finals in particular have a history of teams responding when being blown out in a game. We know Orlando missed some open shots that they expect to make tonight and they will definitely play with more energy. It is up to us to continue to execute and to play with the focus on both ends that is needed to win another game. There are some basic ‘adjustment’ questions that will be answered early tonight. Orlando has the ability to try and speed up the game and use their extensive menu of pick and roll options in order to create some offense. They also have the ability to make it more of a low post game by funneling the ball to Howard down low and forcing us to try and defend him without double-teaming or if we double they will try and move the ball around to the open shooter before we can rotate. It will be interesting to see if they try to go one direction or another or if they try to stay balanced in their attack. Either way we must be ready to defend both styles. We did the job on the boards in game 1 (winning that battle 55-41) and that will again be crucial tonight.
Another possible adjustment that we will be ready for is how they decide to play Kobe. In game one they played a type of defense on him in screen and roll situations where they had the big man “plug” the driving lane. In other words, the big man stayed off the screen and just tried to keep Kobe from penetrating. In response Kobe hit a number of mid range jumpers and found open teammates for easy looks at the basket. One possibility is that they will try to be more aggressive with Kobe. In screen and rolls they may try and trap him so he has to give the ball up earlier (and then try to deny him so he can’t get it back). In post up or isolation situations they may try and double team him sooner and more aggressively. They feel they operate better in transition and picking up their defensive intensity will help them get their transition game flowing.

http://my.lakers.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/090607scoutingreport.jpg
One of their offensive actions that is hard to defend is a play they call “L”. They like to flow into this screen and roll in transition/early offense situations. In this action, the point brings the ball up either side and the two bigs offer simultaneous screens. One screener has his back to the baseline and one has his back to the middle and the point gets to choose which direction he wants to go. One of the things that makes this action so difficult to defend is the shooting ability of both the point guard and Rashard Lewis who is setting one of the screens. We know we will see this action a number of times tonight as well as in the rest of the games this series so we must be ready to stop it.
Tonight will be an extremely tough battle. We know they will play much better than they did in game 1 and we must also increase our level of play if we want to protect our home court

[vodka&boltzs]

If they contain Kobe then gasol and the candy man Lamar Odem will have a bigger game than the last one. Everyone on the lakers is expecting for Kobe to have 2 men on him all game long so someone will be open. Hopefully those other guys are ready because they need to step it up and execute. The lakers D will need to play hard everygame inorder for them to dominate like they did in game 1. I just finished my first cup so my spelling should be good but my next post will be
Around the end if the first quarter so if my spelling isn't right don't bash me it's the goose that did it. Go Lakers!!!!!!!!!

[AFFiLiATED858]

http://hubtvonline.blogspot.com/2009/03/watch-nba-live-online.html

stream for magic lakers game

[vodka&boltzs]

Magic should be thanking the refs for keeping in this game. From the Howard goaltend in the first quaret to the tickey tack foul calling in the 4th. Come on let them play refs.

[GoTomlinson]

Magic should be thanking the refs for keeping in this game. From the Howard goaltend in the first quaret to the tickey tack foul calling in the 4th. Come on let them play refs.

The first game was called fine.

There are bad calls in game 2 but they are going both ways.

Pretty even so far.

[GoTomlinson]

Holy Mackerel how did Lee not just win the game right there?

[vodka&boltzs]

Karma that's why he missed it. The refs need to shove that whistle down their thorats.

[Boltfan7998]

Let's go MAGIC!!

[vodka&boltzs]

So magic had the refs on their side the whole night and they still couldn't get it done. Stan van guppy is crapping his
Pants now. Dwight Howard go to church and pray and hope you don't
Give 1 up in Orlando

[chargerfan1978]

Let's go MAGIC!!


. . . . and you were saying????

SUCCCCCCKKKKKKAAAAAAAAAAAA

[chargerfan1978]

Close game as everyone expected here. However, the Lakers know how to finish, the Magic just don't. Hopefully, the Lakers can pull out at least 1 game up in Disneyworld.

[vodka&boltzs]

Let's go MAGIC!!

Ya let's go back to Orlando and hope you don't
Get swept

[GoTomlinson]

LAKERS 2-0!

Now for the long road trip to Orlando. Who is Dwight Howard?

[chargerfan1978]

Besides his usual scream while making the low post shot, and the traditional 'AAANNNNDDDD ONNNNNNNNNE!!!!" celebratory accent, did you guys see that one in OT??? Freakin' hilarious. Like a pouty kid, , shoulders shrugged, arms dropped to the sides, strong stance, fists clenched, for the 'AAAANNNNNNND ONNNNNNNE!!!" scream. OMG, my wife and I kept rewinding the DVR and were constantly laughing.

[vodka&boltzs]

Van guppy needs to service the refs tonight for all the
Great calls the refs gave them. Anyways the refs will be even more on their side so Kobe better have that snarl going very early. He didn't bring it out tonight so he is holding it for Orlando

[vodka&boltzs]

Besides his usual scream while making the low post shot, and the traditional 'AAANNNNDDDD ONNNNNNNNNE!!!!" celebratory accent, did you guys see that one in OT??? Freakin' hilarious. Like a pouty kid, , shoulders shrugged, arms dropped to the sides, strong stance, fists clenched, for the 'AAAANNNNNNND ONNNNNNNE!!!" scream. OMG, my wife and I kept rewinding the DVR and were constantly laughing.

Ya good stuff Howard looked like a 12 year old that got caught stealing
Candy. Hahaha, props to lewis he got it done today but again frustrating game for Howard he can't
Get it going. The lakers will now
Focus on lewis for game 3

[GoTomlinson]

Van guppy needs to service the refs tonight for all the
Great calls the refs gave them. Anyways the refs will be even more on their side so Kobe better have that snarl going very early. He didn't bring it out tonight so he is holding it for Orlando

Hate to say it, but I think the Refs ended up going in favor of the Lakers tonight. Either way, they did a decent job letting them play.

[chargerfan1978]

Van guppy needs to service the refs tonight for all the
Great calls the refs gave them. Anyways the refs will be even more on their side so Kobe better have that snarl going very early. He didn't bring it out tonight so he is holding it for Orlando


I know how it is, though. Calls will go either way. Kobe shouldn't have gotten that one off of Hedo - Kobe just fell. Also, how the hell are you supposed to fight over the screen. Ariza was called for one on that. However, Howard is just Howard - always using the arms (elbows) to box out.

Van Guppy? HAHAHAHAHAAHAA. Well, he obviously got the 'do done maybe because he's tired of being called Ron Jeremy.

[chargerfan1978]

Ya good stuff Howard looked like a 12 year old that got caught stealing
Candy. Hahaha, props to lewis he got it done today but again frustrating game for Howard he can't
Get it going. The lakers will now
Focus on lewis for game 3


There's a better shot of Gasol doing that new one. Gonna laugh some mo'. :LightsOut:

[chargerfan1978]

Let's go MAGIC!!

. . . Johnson.:layup

[GoTomlinson]

. . . Johnson.:layup

And as I log off tonight I leave with a chuckle...

[vodka&boltzs]

Alright fellas so my Sunday was a great but stressfull one. So I tore up a half of a
Bottle and about 8 wings and some fries. Till next and haters where you at. 13 and 1
The wnba season just started so I hope you bought your detroit whatever jersey and root
For the ladies cause the pistons still suck, hahaha hater shaq lover

[RAWDOGG]

Hate to say it, but I think the Refs ended up going in favor of the Lakers tonight. Either way, they did a decent job letting them play.

Maybe towards the end.....I beleive the Majic had twice as many FT's until about 3 minutes left in the 4th quarter

2-0 I want at least 1 win Orlando

[Remember13and1?]

Alright fellas so my Sunday was a great but stressfull one. So I tore up a half of a
Bottle and about 8 wings and some fries. Till next and haters where you at. 13 and 1
The wnba season just started so I hope you bought your detroit whatever jersey and root
For the ladies cause the pistons still suck, hahaha hater shaq lover

Are you 12? Wow, had Courtney Lee banked that lay up, you would be sitting on your couch crying and not talking smack like you are now.

I'm not a Magic fan, so what's this gotta do with me? Oh well, dumb laker fan at his best.

Good luck, you beat the Magic in your house by a thread HURRAY!!!

[Good Days Last2]

Are you 12? Wow, had Pau Gasol not goal tended that lay up, you would be sitting on your couch crying and not talking smack like you are now.


Fixed it for ya, bro.

[Clint Beastwood]

Fixed it for ya, bro.


and had they called the goal tend on Howard when he stuck his hand through the hoop, it would have nullified it. Funny how selective you are...... hope you're enjoying the series as much as I am:LightsOut:

[Clint Beastwood]

Are you 12? Wow, had Courtney Lee banked that lay up, you would be sitting on your couch crying and not talking smack like you are now.

I'm not a Magic fan, so what's this gotta do with me? Oh well, dumb laker fan at his best.

Good luck, you beat the Magic in your house by a thread HURRAY!!!


what ifs, what if, whats if, this is sports, what IF's don't mean squat,IF the Chargers line did a better job blocking on the Rivers INT in Pitts, we might of been in the Superbowl. IF's mean nothing!

[chargerfan1978]

Are you 12? Wow, had Courtney Lee banked that lay up, you would be sitting on your couch crying and not talking smack like you are now.

I'm not a Magic fan, so what's this gotta do with me? Oh well, dumb laker fan at his best.

Good luck, you beat the Magic in your house by a thread HURRAY!!!

Why? Is that what you did when LeBron shut out your team? Or more specifically when there were so many LeBron jerseys in the Palace Of Auburn Hills in that sorry-ash exit game.

By a thread? Whatever.

[Good Days Last2]

and had they called the goal tend on Howard when he stuck his hand through the hoop, it would have nullified it. Funny how selective you are...... hope you're enjoying the series as much as I am:LightsOut:

It's a decent series. Not as bad as any of the Spurs series.
But it is certainly looking like Miami-Dallas all over again.

[chargerfan1978]

Fixed it for ya, bro.


Goaltending is INTERFERENCE OF THE BALL ON THE DOWNWARD FLIGHT.

Did Gasol touch the ball???

NO.

'Basket Interference' won't help either.

Hedo threw it too hard.

Lee's body was heading underneath the backboard.

Another coulda woulda shoulda hoo-boo-boo-boo

LAKERS WIN.

BOO-YAA.

[Good Days Last2]

Goaltending is INTERFERENCE OF THE BALL ON THE DOWNWARD FLIGHT.

Did Gasol touch the ball???

NO.

'Basket Interference' won't help either.

Hedo threw it too hard.

Lee's body was heading underneath the backboard.

Another coulda woulda shoulda hoo-boo-boo-boo

LAKERS WIN.

BOO-YAA.

I can't wait to see how this thread looks after the Lakers win the series.

[chargerfan1978]

I can't wait to see how this thread looks after the Lakers win the series.


Me too. :layup:LightsOut::Cheers::good:

[chargerfan1978]

I can't wait to see how this thread looks after the Lakers win the series.

Check the NBA, NCAA, high school, and youth basketball rules before you help your fellow brethren.

Goaltending . . . . . good one.:crazy:

[Remember13and1?]

When did I mention goal tending? I hate the Lakers and even I won't call that Gasol move a goal tend... that's just dumb... he didn't interfere with Lee's lay up.

What I was saying is had Lee not messed up a lay up, even thow he was kinda behind the backboard and going too strong, things could be looking very different.

That's just how basketball is and life... the littlest things make the biggest differences.

I think this will definitely haunt the Magic because I don't see them winning 3/3 in Orlando.

Your replies abot "IFS, COULDAS' blah blah I don't really give a rats ass, I'm looking at what occured in a larger perspective to see how it can effect both teams, I know you don't have a big enough brain to think that way so I brought up the subject.

[chargerfan1978]

When did I mention goal tending? I hate the Lakers and even I won't call that Gasol move a goal tend... that's just dumb... he didn't interfere with Lee's lay up.

What I was saying is had Lee not messed up a lay up, even thow he was kinda behind the backboard and going too strong, things could be looking very different.

That's just how basketball is and life... the littlest things make the biggest differences.

I think this will definitely haunt the Magic because I don't see them winning 3/3 in Orlando.

Your replies abot "IFS, COULDAS' blah blah I don't really give a rats ass, I'm looking at what occured in a larger perspective to see how it can effect both teams, I know you don't have a big enough brain to think that way so I brought up the subject.


You DID NOT mention anything about basket interference or goaltending. If you actually scroll back a little more, GDL2 felt like helping you. I was talking to GDL2. So, if you want to henpeck about that issue, talk to your brotha. I suggest you check yourself, before you open the piehole.

HAHAHAHAHA . . . . yeah Piss-on fan. Display your supreme brain with 'personal insults'.

ATTENTION LAKER FANS: REMEMBER13AND1 IS THE NOW HIGHLY, SELF-PROCLAIMED, AND UNDISPUTED BASKETBALL MENSA GURU.
DON'T TALK SMACK OR YOU WILL BE REPRIMANDED WITH A :nono:.

[chargerfan1978]

Lakers 101, Magic 96: Postgame 2 (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/2009/06/07/lakers-101-magic-96-postgame-2/)

Published by Mike Trudell (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/author/mtrudell/)
on June 7, 2009
in Post-Game (http://my.lakers.com/blogs/category/post-game/)
.

http://my.lakers.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/game4_postgame.jpgIt took overtime for the Lakers to find the same effort they’d put forth in Game 1 of the NBA Finals, but at the end of a sunny Sunday afternoon in Los Angeles, the home team managed to seal a five-point win that secured a 2-0 series lead, a luxury the Lakers didn’t have against either Houston or Denver in the West.
“We just drove ourselves through the game,” said Phil Jackson, whose team trailed by two heading into the fourth quarter and nearly lost at the buzzer. “I didn’t think Kobe (Bryant) had a good game at all as far as his standards go (but) we had other guys contribute. Lamar (Odom) had an outstanding game … He came through in a big way for us.”
That “almost lost” came after Bryant appeared to get hit on the arm with 0.6 seconds left on the clock before his attempt at a game winner was blocked, allowing Courtney Lee a chance to convert an alley-oop off the inbounds pass at the other end as regulation time expired, but he missed.
“There is a sense of relief because they played very well,” said Jackson. “However, we had the ball at the end of the game with nine seconds after making a really good defensive play. We didn’t get a good shot … But (that) disappointment didn’t weigh us down going into overtime.”
Though Orlando never led by more than three points, L.A. was able to respond to the adjustments the Magic made in no small part because of Odom, as alluded to by his coach.
While Bryant led the way with 29 points on 10-of-22 shooting plus eight assists, L.O. was fantastic in chalking up 19 points, eight boards, two assists and three blocks on 8-of-9 shooting in 45 minutes off the bench with Andrew Bynum in foul trouble all game. Odom made shots from all over the court to get his eight field goals, but it was two clutch free throws with 22.1 seconds left in OT that turned a three-point lead into a five-point edge and ultimately sealed the deal for L.A.
“Lamar just had a great, great game, particularly in the fourth quarter,” said Bryant after Odom scored eight points with three boards in the final regulation quarter.
The home team, who’s still undefeated this season while wearing its Sunday white uniforms, needed every one of Odom’s points as Orlando sent consistent double teams at Bryant, which worked for the majority of regulation as his non-Odom teammates struggled to hit shots. Most notably, a 4-for-11 start from Pau Gasol and Trevor Ariza’s 3-for-13 didn’t help. But in the overtime, in stepped Gasol and Derek Fisher.
First, Gasol drew a foul off Fisher’s penetration and hit both from the line (10-of-11 in the game). Next was a tough Kobe jumper over Hedo Turkoglu, and then a huge defensive play from Fisher, who stepped into the passing lane to intercept a JJ Redick pass before drawing a foul and sinking both foul shots at the other end to put L.A. up 94-91. If that wasn’t the game’s biggest play, then Gasol’s and-1 layup off Bryant’s dish was, as it gave the Lakers a 6-point lead that Orlando couldn’t overcome despite finding its three-point shooting stroke.
“The three-point shooters seemed to flourish tonight,” said Jackson, noting Rashard Lewis and Turkoglu’s combined nine triples. “It kept them in the ball game.”
What hurt the Magic, on the other hand, were 20 turnovers, resulting in 28 Lakers points, because L.A. knew the Magic were going to shoot much better than the 29-percent-effort in Game 1 of the Finals, and they did, netting 41.8 percent of their looks. The knew the general effort of Orlando would be much better, and it was, shown through a 44-35 edge on the glass that limited the Lakers to only four offensive boards. Furthermore, the Lakers mustered just 28 points in the paint after going off for 56 in Game 1, but they simply fought their way to a victory.
“They played extremely well, but we played well enough to win,” concluded Bryant.
Dwight Howard’s 17-point, 16-board double-double and 56 combined points from Lewis and Turkoglu were leaps and bounds better than the threesome’s Game 1 performance, but it wasn’t quite good enough.
“We wanted to win this game just to keep the pressure on them,” said Odom. “Both teams want this. It was is tough for us last year, getting embarrassed in Boston. I guess with this win, we kind of kept that pressure on. But we still have to take care of business, just focus on each possession.”
In two days, they’ll get a chance to do just that.
Until then, a few numbers:
1
Shot taken by Courtney Lee before he found the ball in his hands with consecutive chances to potentially win the game in the final 10 seconds of the fourth quarter. He missed both looks from close range as L.A. sent the game into overtime.
4
Threes made by the Lakers in the first half, one more than was made in the entire Game 1.
7
L.A.’s biggest lead in a closely-contested ball game that saw the Magic have no higher than a three-point advantage.
10
Points in the paint by the Lakers in the first half.
20
Shots missed by Orlando’s guards on 26 attempts, including Rafer Alston’s 1-of-8 and JJ Redick’s 2-of-9.
20
Shots made by Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis on 38 attempts, including nine of Orlando’s 10 three-point makes.
30
Orlando’s third quarter scoring output on 11-of-19 shooting, including 5-of-6 from Hedo Turkoglu, which turned a 5-point Magic deficit into a 2-point lead heading into the fourth.
85.7
L.A.’s free throw percentage on 24-of-28 makes, including 9-of-9 in the overtime.

[chargerfan1978]

He stated . . .

That “almost lost” came after Bryant appeared to get hit on the arm with 0.6 seconds left on the clock before his attempt at a game winner was blocked

They replayed it over and over. Hedo made a clean block - nothin' but ball.

[RAWDOGG]

I can't wait to see how this thread looks after the Lakers win the series.

I suspect it will only be occupied by Laker fans :LightsOut:

[Good Days Last2]

He stated . . .

That “almost lost” came after Bryant appeared to get hit on the arm with 0.6 seconds left on the clock before his attempt at a game winner was blocked

They replayed it over and over. Hedo made a clean block - nothin' but ball.

Actually, before Hedo even got there, Rashard Lewis tapped his elbow.

[chargerfan1978]

Actually, before Hedo even got there, Rashard Lewis tapped his elbow.


Hmmmmm, I'd have to fire up the DVR again so I can whine about the reffin'. HAHAHAHA. I'm still sticking to 6 games, though. I think the Lakers will win Game 4. Lamar Odom's been amazing, but he's also amazing for his disappearing acts. That's when I call him O-dumb. Sorry, you Odom fans - let's be real.

[vodka&boltzs]

Are you 12? Wow, had Courtney Lee banked that lay up, you would be sitting on your couch crying and not talking smack like you are now.

I'm not a Magic fan, so what's this gotta do with me? Oh well, dumb laker fan at his best.

Good luck, you beat the Magic in your house by a thread HURRAY!!!

W is a W. And as for lee missing that shot, he is scared just like the rest of the magic team, no experience and they are nervous cause if they drop 1 at home uh oh. You just mad cause the lakers won so it is what it is. Hurray for us lakers fans!!!!

[vodka&boltzs]

Yes Kobe did get fouled right before he drove into the lane by hedo and lewis but thats over and done with. What happened to magics and there great overtime wins, they couldnt pull it off. SO again great job by the lakers on D, they did give them a few open 3's but in the end they still take too many shots. THe magic were 10-30 dam 30 3 shots I guess they still dont trust howard but props to the lakers they shut him down once again. The lakers will stick to the game plan and continue to do to howard what they have been doing. The magic have no answer and they did adjust a bit int he second half but not enough to pull out a win. How many times did howard get stripped yesterday??? The lakers were reading the offense by the 4th quarter and again the only reason they stayed in the game were the 3's.

[Timmet2332]

Or instead of criticizing us, why don't you elaborate on how the Lakers would have won "at least three championships" by now. You do realize that the most they could have won is four since then? I can't even see that happening with my Lakers homer glasses on considering that:

1) There were very strong Western Conference Teams during that span
2) Shaq has been out injured frequently and noticeably declined immediately after leaving the Lakers
3) The Lakers could not afford to bring any other decent talent between their two monster contracts.

You are saying they would have won at least three of the last four championships? Possibly four of the last four?

I feel flattered to hear this but an explanation is mandatory on such a bold statement. Go on... the spotlight is yours! I'll keep your first class fail boat reservations for two on hold. :D

You are so right. That last Lakers team with Shaq and Kobe was a farce. There is no way that they would've won 3 titles since then. Maybe one, but I seriously doubt it. The team had taken on Shaq's identity, which IMO was lazy and complacent. Chances are Phil would've retired or worse yet Kobe would've left with free-agency, thus setting the Lakers back even further than Shaq's departure did. As a Lakers fan, gimme this team with Gasol, Bryant and Odom over the Lakers' 2002-2003 championship team any day. From top-to-bottom, they are eons ahead of that lackluster team that benefitted from an Escremento team that choked and a Nets team that had no business in the Finals due to how terrible the East was back then (Oh yeah, having Horry helped too). It hurt at the time, but I'm glad the Lakers were bounced from the WCF by the Spurs the next year and then stomped by the Pistons in the Finals in 04. It set the table for this team, which can content for a title for the next 4-5 years.

[Timmet2332]

Actually, before Hedo even got there, Rashard Lewis tapped his elbow.

Kobe should have dished it to Ariza for a wide open shot anyway. Luckily is didn't cost them the game.

[chargerfan1978]

You are so right. That last Lakers team with Shaq and Kobe was a farce. There is no way that they would've won 3 titles since then. Maybe one, but I seriously doubt it. The team had taken on Shaq's identity, which IMO was lazy and complacent. Chances are Phil would've retired or worse yet Kobe would've left with free-agency, thus setting the Lakers back even further than Shaq's departure did. As a Lakers fan, gimme this team with Gasol, Bryant and Odom over the Lakers' 2002-2003 championship team any day. From top-to-bottom, they are eons ahead of that lackluster team that benefitted from an Escremento team that choked and a Nets team that had no business in the Finals due to how terrible the East was back then (Oh yeah, having Horry helped too). It hurt at the time, but I'm glad the Lakers were bounced from the WCF by the Spurs the next year and then stomped by the Pistons in the Finals in 04. It set the table for this team, which can content for a title for the next 4-5 years.

Interesting take, there. That's too ahead and brash for me, though. I can only observe one moment at a time.

You forgot bounced by the Suns twice in the first round and the demoralizing b-slap from the Celtics. Man, I wish that Suns team was still together - Nash, Barbosa, Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion, and Bell. There weren't enough playoff battles. Oh well, Lakers' fault, then the Suns'.

[chargerfan1978]

Yes Kobe did get fouled right before he drove into the lane by hedo and lewis but thats over and done with. What happened to magics and there great overtime wins, they couldnt pull it off. SO again great job by the lakers on D, they did give them a few open 3's but in the end they still take too many shots. THe magic were 10-30 dam 30 3 shots I guess they still dont trust howard but props to the lakers they shut him down once again. The lakers will stick to the game plan and continue to do to howard what they have been doing. The magic have no answer and they did adjust a bit int he second half but not enough to pull out a win. How many times did howard get stripped yesterday??? The lakers were reading the offense by the 4th quarter and again the only reason they stayed in the game were the 3's.

Game 2 was a lot of defensive breakdowns. I saw a lot of unnecessary doubles. For the most part, the Magic didn't do anything spectacular on offense. The Lakers were stretching the help too much, thus were too far away to close out on their original assignments. Game 1 was just near perfect on this. The help was near to the double and it's origin. Howard is really being exposed as overrated by the Lakers doubling.

[Timmet2332]

Interesting take, there. That's too ahead and brash for me, though. I can only observe one moment at a time.

You forgot bounced by the Suns twice in the first round and the demoralizing b-slap from the Celtics. Man, I wish that Suns team was still together - Nash, Barbosa, Stoudemire, Diaw, Marion, and Bell. There weren't enough playoff battles. Oh well, Lakers' fault, then the Suns'.

I was considering the Suns drubbings part of the "rebuilding era."

[vodka&boltzs]

Game 2 was a lot of defensive breakdowns. I saw a lot of unnecessary doubles. For the most part, the Magic didn't do anything spectacular on offense. The Lakers were stretching the help too much, thus were too far away to close out on their original assignments. Game 1 was just near perfect on this. The help was near to the double and it's origin. Howard is really being exposed as overrated by the Lakers doubling.
Yes true they did break down on certain plays but over all look at how they are playing D now than how they were playing D against the rockets and the early games against denver. Howard si only one kind of play and that is a player in the paint. He lacks balls skill and a jump shot like gasol, thats why he got stripped so much much because when he is deep in the paint he cant see over defenders to try and make a decent pass thus forcing the ball up and not getting very good shots even though he is right under the rim. If the magic hit 40 to 50 percent of their 3's then its a close game and if the D breaks down and lets them get into a hot then the lakers will be in trouble but I think that at this point the lakers look more hungry than ever. Kobe played 47 minutes and thats not like him he usually plays under 40 a game but they now see its crunch time and its time to leave everything on the court and bring that championship home once again.. Odem wants it really bad and even though he didnt play great D last game his offensive presence really showed

[GoTomlinson]

I was considering the Suns drubbings part of the "rebuilding era."

Smush Parker and Kwame Brown.

[chargerfan1978]

Smush Parker and Kwame Brown.


Don't remind me . . . I gave that Kwame Brown so many chances, I'm ashamed.

[chargerfan1978]

Yes true they did break down on certain plays but over all look at how they are playing D now than how they were playing D against the rockets and the early games against denver. Howard si only one kind of play and that is a player in the paint. He lacks balls skill and a jump shot like gasol, thats why he got stripped so much much because when he is deep in the paint he cant see over defenders to try and make a decent pass thus forcing the ball up and not getting very good shots even though he is right under the rim. If the magic hit 40 to 50 percent of their 3's then its a close game and if the D breaks down and lets them get into a hot then the lakers will be in trouble but I think that at this point the lakers look more hungry than ever. Kobe played 47 minutes and thats not like him he usually plays under 40 a game but they now see its crunch time and its time to leave everything on the court and bring that championship home once again.. Odem wants it really bad and even though he didnt play great D last game his offensive presence really showed

Odom had a great offensive presence which really made up for the brainfarts on D.

Yeah, the Lakers know when to trap Howard. The other 3 defenders will try to read his desperation for a kick out knowing Orlando's bread-and-butter play. Van Gundy ain't no joke though. He better have cutters as safety valves, because these desperate long kick-outs will only get intercepted by the help.

[AKSwiftYupik]

YEA we are champions!!!

[Chargers_Saints]

Gasol did a great job last night. And that's all I'm gonna say about that.

[TCUFAN5]

lakers win another title and kobe can finally say to shaq, "how does my ass taste" LOL that was funny.. i got one without you

[Clint Beastwood]

Your replies abot "IFS, COULDAS' blah blah I don't really give a rats ass, I'm looking at what occured in a larger perspective to see how it can effect both teams, I know you don't have a big enough brain to think that way so I brought up the subject.


for somebody who has been crying about being attacked by other posters in here, you're coming off quite hypocritical, did I attack you in my post?

[LV_BOLT]

http://images.cbssports.com/u/ap/photos/LAS120060723_1024x768.jpg

[TONE]

^ LOL.,



LeTs Go LaKeRsSSsSSsSS ~!

[TxCharger]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/players/04/24/dunk0501/t1_dunk.jpg
Kobe in '06
I wonder what Dwight would say if he saw this picture.

[chargerfan1978]

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2006/players/04/24/dunk0501/t1_dunk.jpg
kobe in '06
i wonder what dwight would say if he saw this picture.


p o s t e r i z e d ! ! !

[Remember13and1?]

You can see by the pic that Dwight is on the ground, he didn't try to defend that.

Kinda like when LeBron dunked on Duncan and people made a big deal about it, Duncan didn't care about stopping him.

It's like whatever, get your dunk who cares... LeBron just cares about showing off sometimes more than winning. Damn crybaby.

Kobe can't nearly dunk as well as he used to, was one of the best ever... I wouldn't advise him to dunk and stuff, prolong your career as long as possible lol.

Better for you Laker fans.

[vodka&boltzs]

Hey 13 and 1 your girls from Detroit smashed the LA sparks so that should make you a little less unhappy huh.

[chargerfan1978]

I put the flags are up on the car this morning - ready to ro'. It's Orlando's 1st home game this Finals, so I don't expect the Lakers to win. But, if they do - then, even better!!!

[chargerfan1978]

LAKERS - MAGIC PREVIEW

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) Kobe Bryant has changed his look.
Gone is the teeth-baring, nose-flaring, eyes-on-the-prize scowl that the Los Angeles Lakers star showed again and again in Game 1 of the NBA finals. The intensity diminished after Game 2, his expression morphing into one of relief and sheer luck.
A botched layup by Magic rookie Courtney Lee is perhaps the biggest reason why these finals are not tied and why Bryant isn't smiling even with his team up 2-0. That level of seriousness might be cause for Orlando to grimace.
The Magic nearly returned from Los Angeles with the best-of-seven series tied. Instead, they're down 2-0, and now Bryant has a promise for Game 3 on Tuesday night.
"We're about to kick it up,'' he said. "You'd better believe it. We're close. You see what I'm saying? This is the finals. We're going to be ready to go.''
For all the bravado, the Lakers can be careless, a team with holes and an inability to finish off an opponent as a champion must. They let Houston extend a series despite the absence of Yao Ming. Denver outmuscled and outhustled a Lakers team that seemed to lose its enthusiasm until Game 6 of the conference finals.
Los Angeles believes those days are over.
"We're playing tougher,'' forward Pau Gasol said. "We understand what it takes to go get the championship.''
This is a franchise closing in on its 15th title. It is facing Magic team still searching for its first finals victory. Bryants insists this is no time to get comfortable.
"What's there to be happy about?'' he asked. "The job's not finished.''
The Magic have had their shots - one in particular - to change the series.
Lee missed a wide-open, alley-oop layup that would have won Game 2 at the fourth-quarter buzzer Sunday night. It was another chapter in a long history of Magic misery, one that now has them 0-6 in finals games.
Call it the "alley-oops.'' This mistake, however, might hurt the most.
Orlando has been able to come back from seemingly every heartbreak this season - injuries, four last-second losses in the playoffs and series deficits in two rounds. But this could be too tough a challenge. Only three teams have won a title after losing the first two games in the finals, most recently Miami over Dallas in 2006.
"We've just got to go home and take care of business,'' Magic center Dwight Howard said. "The Lakers did a good job of protecting their home, and now it's our turn to do the same thing. We've been in some tough situations. We've just got to fight our way out.''
Magic coach Stan Van Gundy led the Heat to start that 2005-06 season before stepping aside. He was still on the Heat payroll helping Pat Riley from afar.
"Dallas never won another game,'' Van Gundy said. "You know, series can change.''
The Magic would need quite a turnaround. Their backcourt has been dreadful. Rafer Alston and Jameer Nelson, who returned for the finals after being out since early February because of shoulder surgery, were so inconsistent that Van Gundy benched them for most of the fourth quarter to have 6-foot-10 forward Hedo Turkoglu run the point.
The Magic had 20 turnovers, just 22 assists and no true ballhandler to make the Lakers pay for double-teaming Howard. With Nelson coming off the bench in place of reliable reserve Anthony Johnson and Alston having already said he wasn't pleased with his minutes in Game 1, Van Gundy might face another dilemma.
"We were just trying to see if we could get somebody out there who would make shots off of the double teams and off the pick-and-rolls and things like that,'' Van Gundy said. "I thought our guys fought hard, but we couldn't make enough plays. And the 20 turnovers crushed us.''
The Lakers know the Magic, too, could change in a moment.
One of the streakiest teams in the league all season, Orlando has shot well at home. It plays with a carefree attitude, and Bryant says that's reason to be wary.
"This is a very loosey-goosey team we're playing against,'' he said. "You seen some of the shots they hit. Those are tough shots - supposed to be tough shots. For them it's like shooting fish in a barrel. They're just thinking about Game 3, and so are we.''

[RAWDOGG]

Check out this article.........if of course you want a good laugh

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-mike-thomas-magic-la-stinks-060909,0,7274694.column

[BuenoExcelente]

p o s t e r i z e d ! ! !

Dayum that is just funny!

[chargerfan1978]

Check out this article.........if of course you want a good laugh

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-mike-thomas-magic-la-stinks-060909,0,7274694.column


Seems more like California hatin' and Florida shmoozin' vs. sports. Whatever, though. I don't bother with that stuff. None of the irrelevant or wandering off in a tangent - just stay on point.

[chargerfan1978]

Dayum that is just funny!

But Vince Carter over that 7-foot dude in the Olympics was THEE BEST.

[RAWDOGG]

Seems more like California hatin' and Florida shmoozin' vs. sports. Whatever, though. I don't bother with that stuff. None of the irrelevant or wandering off in a tangent - just stay on point.

Reminds of the columnist in Denver that writes article about the Chargers and Rivers