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boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:04 PM
What do you guys think of the Bolts making a trade for him?

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:05 PM
What do you guys think of the Bolts making a trade for him?
I was in favor of it because deep down I really don't think LT is even a remnant of what he was. Stephen jackson (when he wants to play) is a baller.

Good Days Last2
10-18-2009, 09:07 PM
Depends on the asking price.

It would have to be very very "right place, right time" type of thing.

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:07 PM
it would be a good deal because he has the speed to break away and he is powerful enough to run between the tackles.. but he is injury prone..

boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:07 PM
I was in favor of it because deep down I really don't think LT is even a remnant of what he was. Stephen jackson (when he wants to play) is a baller.
He is a baller and would really help and he must want out of St Louis

LABoltsFan
10-18-2009, 09:08 PM
http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?p=2684226&posted=1#post2684226

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pacstud22
10-18-2009, 09:08 PM
Only if we can have him for a 4th...seriously.

Maybe a 4th and a player.

He is good, but I'd rather draft (early please AJ) our next RB.

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:09 PM
Depends on the asking price.

It would have to be very very "right place, right time" type of thing.

you know its about time for this right price stuff to eat it.. because we need to make moves we need stop this we can draft some one it hasnt worked in a while so lets do what we need to and get it done.

BRIANB82
10-18-2009, 09:09 PM
You guys are all crazy thinking Stephen Jackson would be a upgrade to LT. LT is only as good as his line. To all the people who say LT is washed up.....You don't know jack about football. Talk about injuries.....Jackson's been injured his whole career. With his upright running style he's at risk everytime he runs the ball.

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:10 PM
Only if we can have him for a 4th...seriously.

Maybe a 4th and a player.

He is good, but I'd rather draft (early please AJ) our next RB.

Draft who? who is worthy of the early draft pick next year? Best? NOPE too damn small.. the only running back i can say is ready is Matthews from Fresno State and he will probably be a 2nd round pick

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:11 PM
Naturally We'd rather draft but I think we all have seen what jackson is capable of. I think if a deal could be reached I would do it. But its not the type of trade AJ makes. Only because it makes sense. And anyone who says were set at RB is delusional. We are all living in this fantasy that LT is going to tear it up. Sproles is not an everydown back and Bennett is essentially a veteran second stringer.

Chargrfan
10-18-2009, 09:11 PM
Is it really nesscery to make threads about steven jackson every day? If it is I call tomorrow!

Good Days Last2
10-18-2009, 09:13 PM
you know its about time for this right price stuff to eat it.. because we need to make moves we need stop this we can draft some one it hasnt worked in a while so lets do what we need to and get it done.

This team is at a crossroads right now.

It's talented beyond all belief and it's how we've been able to keep winning.
LT is starting to become an anchor to it.
He has to start producing or he's gonna be gone :(

If we've already decided that it's finally his time to leave then
I would want to trade for Jackson.

But I think the defense is a bigger concern right now.

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:14 PM
This team is at a crossroads right now.

It's talented beyond all belief and it's how we've been able to keep winning.
LT is starting to become an anchor to it.
He has to start producing or he's gonna be gone :(

If we've already decided that it's finally his time to leave then
I would want to trade for Jackson.

But I think the defense is a bigger concern right now.
The defense is a concern. But why can't we have our own version of a two headed monster.

boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:15 PM
You guys are all crazy thinking Stephen Jackson would be a upgrade to LT. LT is only as good as his line. To all the people who say LT is washed up.....You don't know jack about football. Talk about injuries.....Jackson's been injured his whole career. With his upright running style he's at risk everytime he runs the ball.
Jackson is over 500 rushing yards playing for the horrible Rams. He can help this team

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:16 PM
Jackson is over 500 rushing yards playing for the horrible Rams. He can help this team
it makes too much sense so forget it its out of the question. WE only do things that defy rational thinking and logic.

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:16 PM
yes he does.. and that OLINE IS HORRIBLE!!!!!

travieso86m
10-18-2009, 09:17 PM
We need offensive lineman. A right tackle or a better left tackle so we can move McNiel to right tackle. We also need a healthy center. Steven Jackson would be great but imo he is not worth a 1st round pick and he would cost too much.

Good Days Last2
10-18-2009, 09:18 PM
The defense is a concern. But why can't we have our own version of a two headed monster.

Because it makes too much sense :LightsOut:

Maybe we could turn back into a ball-controlling offense. Keep the D off the field.

boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:18 PM
it makes too much sense so forget it its out of the question. WE only do things that defy rational thinking and logic.
So true........ugh

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:19 PM
We need offensive lineman. A right tackle or a better left tackle so we can move McNiel to right tackle. We also need a healthy center. Steven Jackson would be great but imo he is not worth a 1st round pick and he would cost too much.
i bet you his contract isnt more than LT's...

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:20 PM
yes he does.. and that OLINE IS HORRIBLE!!!!!
Right so whats the problem. Why are we so married to the concept of LT. I knew he was waning two seasons ago. When i was saying let him go and keep Turner. If were going to win games and be a threat not only does our defense need to improve but we need some semblance of a ground game. Ball control is how you beat good teams. I came up with the idea of spreading the offense out and running on occasion but I realize that in this day and age you need a running game if your going to win games. plain and simple. IF jackson can play well on a crappy rams team with no oline why wouldn't he do well here.

DGINSD
10-18-2009, 09:22 PM
You guys are all crazy thinking Stephen Jackson would be a upgrade to LT. LT is only as good as his line. To all the people who say LT is washed up.....You don't know jack about football. Talk about injuries.....Jackson's been injured his whole career. With his upright running style he's at risk everytime he runs the ball.


Second that. No one can run with an O line that allowes defenders in the backfield. How quickly people forget how dominate a healthy LT with a hole to run through is.

TCUFAN5
10-18-2009, 09:23 PM
LT signed a 3 year 17.875 million dollar contract....
Jackson signed a 6 year 44.8 million dollar contract..

You do the math.. i bet that sixth year is probably voidable.. or he will never see it

dcboltfan
10-18-2009, 09:45 PM
OMG. The RUNNING GAME PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LT!!!!

If there is no hole. Then NO RB will run well. Only Barry Sanders could run behind this diaper wearing O-Line. LT is fine people.

boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:47 PM
OMG. The RUNNING GAME PROBLEM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH LT!!!!

If there is no hole. Then NO RB will run well. Only Barry Sanders could run behind this diaper wearing O-Line. LT is fine people.
Jackson gets it done in St Louis

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:49 PM
Jackson gets it done in St Louis
Yes he does. He doesn't need gaping holes to be able to run the way LT does nowadays

boltz760
10-18-2009, 09:51 PM
Yes he does. He doesn't need gaping holes to be able to run the way LT does nowadays
Some people don't want to face the fact that LT has lost a step.

biggestfan
10-18-2009, 09:52 PM
Some people don't want to face the fact that LT has lost a step.
I saw that coming two seasons ago. In the ofseason we should have gotten rid of him and went out and got a premier back.

Renok
10-18-2009, 10:21 PM
Matthews makes big plays but down by down he isnt that great of a runner, his average looks good because he busts off a 20 yarder ever 5 touches, he wont get those in the NFL.

Renok
10-18-2009, 10:22 PM
Jackson surprisingly wants to stay in St. Louis he is on record saying he knows he is a big part of the rebuilding process and he wants to be there when it pays off because he said it would be so much greater. He is excited for the future.

xCharger Carlx
10-18-2009, 10:22 PM
If he can't run behind the rams o-line what makes you think he can run behind ours?

chargerbomb
10-18-2009, 10:39 PM
If he can't run behind the rams o-line what makes you think he can run behind ours?

What the hell are you talking about? He's got 500 yards rushing already this season.

I think he leads the league in yards from scrimmage.

BoltFanBo
10-19-2009, 12:29 AM
I saw that coming two seasons ago. In the ofseason we should have gotten rid of him and went out and got a premier back.

Man I'm so tired of this hindsite babble of "I knew this two years ago"...
There was now way in hell the Chargers were going to trade LT after what he did for this team... Heck, SD sports fan blasted the Padres for letting an over the hill Trevor Hoffman walk. Could you imagine what the fallout would be with LT. At the time of MT's free agent year LT was for more valuable then Hoffman was at the end of his time and fans ripped the Pads to no end for that move.

Bottom line is LT was staying due to what he meant to the team. He's a future HOFer. MT was not traded because he was insurance for the playoff. After the playoffs it was MT time to go.

Make the case for Franchising MT for another year (all be it probably wouldn't have made MT very happy knowing he was going to be a back up another year) but to say we should have traded LT at the time is asinine...

TonyGfortheTD
10-19-2009, 12:32 AM
If the Rams were smart, they'd of traded him yesterday. That team is in complete shambles and need a ton of picks. He will be near the downside of his career by the time the Rams are ready to not completely suck.

I'd hate to see San Diego get him.

shaun4505
10-19-2009, 07:49 AM
Only if we can have him for a 4th...seriously.

Maybe a 4th and a player.

He is good, but I'd rather draft (early please AJ) our next RB.

who would u get in the draft that is as good as Stephen Jackson? he's in his prime still and the perfect blend of speed and power back we desperately need. I'd rather draft defense and add vets to our RB and/or OL depth.

pacstud22
10-19-2009, 08:29 AM
who would u get in the draft that is as good as Stephen Jackson? he's in his prime still and the perfect blend of speed and power back we desperately need. I'd rather draft defense and add vets to our RB and/or OL depth.


No one...for now. It is my opinion that RB is the easiest position to get a kid straight out of college and have him be an impact player. I think a 1st or 2nd rounder would have a high likelihood of success. That player would obviously be cheaper and have a longer career (probably) that SJ. With SJ you're brokeraging some of the future for a 1 or 2 year back imo. If ALL we needed was a RB, I'd say OK, but I think the drafts of "we don't need that many players anyway" are a thing of the past.

If it was a 3rd, I wouldn't complain, but I think with SJ you are officially letting LT and probably Sproles walk, or if you keep Sproles, you are looking at losing another big piece of the team.

Now, if this is Madden, I make the trade. However, if this was Madden, we'd have won 59 straight games and 5 straight SBs!

shaun4505
10-19-2009, 10:46 AM
LT hasnt been LT for more than 2 years. The public is the reason why we still have him on the roster for $6 millions. Trust me the outcries will still be the same next year, even after yet another injury filled year and virtually no stats to speak of. In the preseason I said LT would be lucky to get 50-70 yards per game and got lambasted. I dont care if he's healthy he's falling down even with phantom tackles. Time for a 225lbs + back to be here. I wouldnt mind a Brandon Jacobs or a back like that to team up with Sproles.
One other thing to add. If LT is still LT and only slowed by our OL, how come no one ever inquire about him regarding a trade? It's pretty obvious only the homers are seeing LT in that light. No one in football thinks he's got any gas left in the tank. He has absolutely ZERO value.