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Old 11-12-2012, 06:17 AM
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Default Time for a statement from Goodell about concussions

This was system failure, maybe system overload for the NFL. You get a big game like Sunday night, Houston at Chicago, and hope to see statements made, questions answered.

We got statements, all right. When Houston linebacker Tim Dobbins cheap-shotted Jay Cutler — in the officials’ opinion — by going helmet-to-helmet after Cutler had thrown a pass, Dobbins was allowed to stay in the game. That was a statement about NFL rules.

It should be an automatic ejection.

Cutler stayed in the game, too, and then got hit in the head again on the next play. He stayed in for six plays after that, too, before sitting out the second half with a concussion. That was a statement, too. Did the Bears think about taking him out after the first hit? Cutler reportedly has suffered six concussions in his career.

“Didn’t have any symptoms, no,’’ Bears coach Lovie Smith said. “There were a lot of hard hits out there today. You can’t start taking guys out for that. When they’re injured, then we take them out.’’

You can’t start taking guys out of the game after they take a hard hit to the head. Statement.


Good read: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/j...mething-111112

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Old 11-12-2012, 06:20 AM
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Doesn't look like a "cheap shot" or even that hard of a hit. Why should Dobbins be ejected? He shouldn't have even been flagged.

Cutler was over the LOS anyway, and it therefore a runner.
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Old 11-12-2012, 06:51 AM
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Doesn't look like a "cheap shot" or even that hard of a hit. Why should Dobbins be ejected? He shouldn't have even been flagged.

Cutler was over the LOS anyway, and it therefore a runner.
Agreed- ejections for blows to the head- no way.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:23 AM
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If anything, the hit was late. It also looks like Dobbins lowered his head and aimed for Cutlers facemask.

As far as him getting ejected over a "cheap shot", I'm not seeing it. Cutler was past the LOS, and therefore a runner.

This is just the league going overboard, trying to protect their franchise qb's.

I laughed when that announcer said "ferocious hit". Maybe for Cutler, it was ferocious, but as far as NFL hits, it was pretty mundane.
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Old 11-12-2012, 07:28 AM
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It looked like a late hit to me as I was watching the game, but like was said above Cutler was over the LOS so he was a runner.
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Just an idea. Why not have a sin bin type thing for illegal hits. If it's ruled to be an illegal hit then maybe that player has to sit out for so many plays. I don't think it could work by a team being down 1 player on the field because that seems like too much of an advantage. So say Weddle does a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless player then he wouldn't be able to go on the field for 10 plays. They'd have to put someone in to replace him. That's as well as a yardage penalty.

Fines to me seem so stupid. It's not the right type of punishment.

In most sport codes you can miss a couple of games if the penalty is severe enough. But the NFL season is so short that doesn't really work.
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Just an idea. Why not have a sin bin type thing for illegal hits. If it's ruled to be an illegal hit then maybe that player has to sit out for so many plays. I don't think it could work by a team being down 1 player on the field because that seems like too much of an advantage. So say Weddle does a helmet to helmet hit on a defenseless player then he wouldn't be able to go on the field for 10 plays. They'd have to put someone in to replace him. That's as well as a yardage penalty.

Fines to me seem so stupid. It's not the right type of punishment.

In most sport codes you can miss a couple of games if the penalty is severe enough. But the NFL season is so short that doesn't really work.
I think the sin bin idea is one that has merit. If you pull a starter off the field for 10-12 plays, it will impact things, which is the idea.
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It was a lazy hit, if Dobbins goes for the shot to the ribs or chest, no problem, but because he's too lazy to bend his freaking knees they hit helmets.
I've also got a problem with the reaction of Cutlers helmet, he looked like a bobble head, how loose are these guys wearing their helmets?
I'm a little concerned with how many times helmets are coming off, maybe the league needs to monitor that also.
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At least 2/3 of yeterday's QB injuries looked to me like plain accidents, in a dangerous game.
Ratliff tackling Vick was simply 300 pounds landing on 200 pounds.
If Ratliff's tackle forced Vick's helmet into the turf, it was accidental.
Ernie Sims may have pushed Vick and then tried to hold him up, but Vick landed badly anyway, and Sims only pushed him.
Dobbins was late, but he had to defend when Cutler behaved like a running back, and then Dobbins appeared to avoid the collision, which looked like an accident.
I didn't see the impact that ended Alex Smith's (yester)day.
If Goodell wants safer games, make it illegal to tackle, push, or touch any quarterback.
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