Dean? AJ? Norv? Post It Here

[pacstud22]

Originally Posted by The Moekid

benching the guy who played a part in saving your job. tough call

Agreed. And since IMO Norv hasn't done it yet, he won't. Benching a QB is a huge gamble (that he'll NEVER return to form if benched). Of course, the argument is that BY benching him you return him to form...but how often does that happen?

Eli is TERRIBLE right now and the reason the Gnats are slumping. Looking strictly at his last few games, it's bad. You don't bench him though.

No, Norv's gonna go down with the ship and we all need to hope/pray that the next HC "magically" turns his head around.

[pacstud22]

Originally Posted by kiwibolt

I get that logic, but what is the alternative? Clearly the problem isn't going to 'fix' itself. If Rivers is going to be so negatively impacted and damaged psychologically by being benched for a series, quarter or half, then we've got little to no hope of ever winning with him at QB anyway.

I'm not in the meeting rooms, I don't know what happens on weekdays or on the sideline, but clearly what they're doing isn't working.

Time for a paradigm shift.

Honestly the easy out is to wait until we're out of it and then bench him, split the difference I guess?

[kiwibolt]

Originally Posted by pacstud22

Agreed. And since IMO Norv hasn't done it yet, he won't. Benching a QB is a huge gamble (that he'll NEVER return to form if benched). Of course, the argument is that BY benching him you return him to form...but how often does that happen?

Eli is TERRIBLE right now and the reason the Gnats are slumping. Looking strictly at his last few games, it's bad. You don't bench him though.

No, Norv's gonna go down with the ship and we all need to hope/pray that the next HC "magically" turns his head around.

You think if Eli stunk for the better part of the last two years that Coughlin would hesitate to yank him because he was worried about his psyche?

[The Moekid]

Originally Posted by pacstud22

Agreed. And since IMO Norv hasn't done it yet, he won't. Benching a QB is a huge gamble (that he'll NEVER return to form if benched). Of course, the argument is that BY benching him you return him to form...but how often does that happen?

Eli is TERRIBLE right now and the reason the Gnats are slumping. Looking strictly at his last few games, it's bad. You don't bench him though.

No, Norv's gonna go down with the ship and we all need to hope/pray that the next HC "magically" turns his head around.

big difference between Eli and Rivers is that Eli slumps regularly and pulls out of it. Magic?

[kiwibolt]

Originally Posted by pacstud22

Honestly the easy out is to wait until we're out of it and then bench him, split the difference I guess?

I guess. I don't have any answers.... just frustration over watching another Charger season slip down the drain.

[pacstud22]

Originally Posted by kiwibolt

You think if Eli stunk for the better part of the last two years that Coughlin would hesitate to yank him because he was worried about his psyche?

He didn't yank him when he DID stink for the better part of two years before their SB run. Eli was TURRABLE for over two years. Now, he was terrible then good, where as Rivers was good then terrible...but still.

I won't pretend it's an easy answer, and I respect both courses of action. I prefer the course that succeeds

[kiwibolt]

Originally Posted by pacstud22

He didn't yank him when he DID stink for the better part of two years before their SB run. Eli was TURRABLE for over two years. Now, he was terrible then good, where as Rivers was good then terrible...but still.

I hear you- and in now way am I trying to defend Manning *spit*

I won't pretend it's an easy answer, and I respect both courses of action. I prefer the course that succeeds

Me too. I fear we are in a lose/lose here.

[pacstud22]

Originally Posted by The Moekid

big difference between Eli and Rivers is that Eli slumps regularly and pulls out of it. Magic?

I'd say it's more a reflection of Eli than Coughlin.

I'd say.

[cloudparty]

Originally Posted by kiwibolt

I guess. I don't have any answers.... just frustration over watching another Charger season slip down the drain.

This is what I feel too. I hate football seasons when I stop caring mid-day through and start rooting for teams I hate to lose just because I hate them, after the Chargers become irrelevant. I went through a lot of those seasons. Didn't think this would be one, but, barring a miracle on Sunday followed by a string of miracles, it is.

On the plus side, I get more work done.

[RickWG]

Norvs presser on monday. Lots of quiet time at the end of Norv's answers. Good questions and you can tell that norv is struggling to not throw Philip under the bus.

they asked him why he hasn't sat rivers. That was about the only tough question. I guess they feel sorry for him after yesterday they way he exploded.


No one asked him if he was gonna get fired. I'm waiting for that question.