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View Poll Results: Should the Chargers finish out the season or clean house now?
Finish the season 73 29.92%
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:09 PM
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Do it now, AJ has no purpose until the off season. We can get the jump on Cowher, Gruden, Billick, or (insert name here) of coaches that are out of the game currently. If we made an A+ hire like Cowher he's going to want some input on who the GM will be. We can offer him a clean slate, and AJ will have to be gone for most quality coaches to consider this job. Head Coaches are control freaks by nature, they don't want to work for a dominating boss like AJ. Hence AJ hired a yes man in Norv.

If AJ is retained he'll bring in another talented coordinator that will do a good job with one side of the ball, but will not have the skills to manage the team the way a true leader has to.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:09 PM
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Do it now, AJ has no purpose until the off season. We can get the jump on Cowher, Gruden, Billick, or (insert name here) of coaches that are out of the game currently. If we made an A+ hire like Cowher he's going to want some input on who the GM will be. We can offer him a clean slate, and AJ will have to be gone for most quality coaches to consider this job. Head Coaches are control freaks by nature, they don't want to work for a dominating boss like AJ. Hence AJ hired a yes man in Norv.

If AJ is retained he'll bring in another talented coordinator that will do a good job with one side of the ball, but will not have the skills to manage the team the way a true leader has to.
So you're ok with another retread HC. Especialy one that doesn't know the current system. If he decides to change it up, it won't benefit the players one bit. There's still a lot of games left to be played.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:12 PM
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i still cannot believe he wasn't put out of his misery after cleveland. forget scoring 6 on one of the worst defenses in the league. this was AFTER A BYE. if in 12 days that was the best norv turner could come up with against a perennial bottom-feeder, he sealed his fate that night. i don't really care much what else happens this season. i want us to win the super bowl, but more realistically, i want us to end the norv turner experiment as HC here.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:19 PM
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Rivers has built up a lot of equity, there's been recent seasons he was a top 3 or 4 player at his position. Mathews has not done the same.

But ultimately I believe every player on this roster should be playing for their job. Weddle and Butler are the only guys playing at a pro bowl level.

And I believe the upside to acting now is that we can see how the players respond to Pagano or Bisaccia, and it would demonstrate to the players that the status quo is no longer acceptable here. Either elevate your game or go elsewhere.
I think it would make the most sense to elevate Bisaccia to head coach and leave Pagano as the DC.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:22 PM
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i still cannot believe he wasn't put out of his misery after cleveland. forget scoring 6 on one of the worst defenses in the league. this was AFTER A BYE. if in 12 days that was the best norv turner could come up with against a perennial bottom-feeder, he sealed his fate that night. i don't really care much what else happens this season. i want us to win the super bowl, but more realistically, i want us to end the norv turner experiment as HC here.
I am not surprised at all. My biggest fear is that any firings won't occur until well after the season is over, and that the Chargers won't have their pick of the litter in terms of bringing in a new head coach and/or GM, because they waited far too long to make decisions.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:29 PM
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i still cannot believe he wasn't put out of his misery after cleveland. forget scoring 6 on one of the worst defenses in the league. this was AFTER A BYE. if in 12 days that was the best norv turner could come up with against a perennial bottom-feeder, he sealed his fate that night. i don't really care much what else happens this season. i want us to win the super bowl, but more realistically, i want us to end the norv turner experiment as HC here.

Why would you throw in the towel on the season before you were mathatically eliminated?

No need for it.
I have not seen a single head coach lose his job this year yet.
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I have not seen a single head coach lose his job this year yet.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:55 PM
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Why would you throw in the towel on the season before you were mathematically eliminated?

No need for it.
I have not seen a single head coach lose his job this year yet.
Because they show no sign of improvement. At best they are maintaining the status-quo. Most of the time they show regression (Rivers' pass to the wrong player at TB, for instance). The defense has scored 6 of their 26 TDs, so far.
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So you're ok with another retread HC. Especialy one that doesn't know the current system. If he decides to change it up, it won't benefit the players one bit. There's still a lot of games left to be played.
The players we have now don't fit the system anyway, besides this system isn't working. Change isn't a bad thing, if the players are good they'll pick up a new system relatively quickly. It's silly to say "let's keep doing the same thing" when it hasn't gotten us anywhere, fear of change is not a reason to avoid it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:11 PM
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Rivers has built up a lot of equity, there's been recent seasons he was a top 3 or 4 player at his position. Mathews has not done the same.

But ultimately I believe every player on this roster should be playing for their job. Weddle and Butler are the only guys playing at a pro bowl level.

And I believe the upside to acting now is that we can see how the players respond to Pagano or Bisaccia, and it would demonstrate to the players that the status quo is no longer acceptable here. Either elevate your game or go elsewhere.
There is more to being an elite QB than piling up stats, you have to be able to put your team on your shoulders and accomplish something and he's NEVER done that. I really like Rivers a lot but I can't defend his play, his decision making or his mental breakdowns anymore.
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