Luke Joeckel

[flwelshman]

Originally Posted by WootMonkey

We'll see. I think we lose to the steelers, beat the jets, raiders could go either way honestly...

Hope we get our bookend...

Bookend? Bookend? What bookend?

[Kemp17]

Bookend tackle. Joeckel, Lewan, or Fisher.

[JammerHammer23]

Originally Posted by Kemp17

I see the evidence that he's stronger in the running game. And I know you think he's a better athlete, but I am wondering why.

Think he's a better mover and quicker to get to that second level, etc. Also think I've seen that Joeckel doesn't have the longest arms. Not that it matters because Thomas has short arms, but longer arms are usually better.

[ftwbolt]

Originally Posted by flwelshman

I don't know the answer to that, but all indications are he is coming out. Add in the fact his stock isn't very likely to go up at all next year should he remain in school than what it presently is, and yes, I would think it highly doubtful he remains in school and takes a chance on dropping out of the top 10, perhaps the top 5 by staying in school another year...although Barkley made that mistake.

I don't have numbers to back this up, but most O-Line men usually stay for their senior season.

[Time4aRing]

Originally Posted by SDfootball61

Again, i'd say top 15-20 for him. NOT a top 5 talent. Eric Fisher is growing on me to the point where id be comfortable with him top 10, but not nearly a lock to go there. He reminds me of a Better/Stronger Nate Solder.

Agreed.

As for Lewan's upside, his ceiling is not that much taller than Joeckel, and Joeckel's floor is a whole lot higher than Lewan's. JMO

[Kemp17]

Originally Posted by ftwbolt

I don't have numbers to back this up, but most O-Line men usually stay for their senior season.

Off the top of my head, Kalil and Konz were juniors this last year. Both made the jump because their stock was tops for their positions.

[Kemp17]

Originally Posted by Time4aRing

Agreed.

As for Lewan's upside, his ceiling is not that much taller than Joeckel, and Joeckel's floor is a whole lot higher than Lewan's. JMO

I'd agree with the bolded.

[WootMonkey]

Originally Posted by Kemp17

With our offense, every game is loseable.

Same holds true with the Jets.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by WootMonkey

Same holds true with the Jets.

Same with the Iggles. Win! We get Joeckel!


Man...rooting for Norv and Andy Reid in the same day...

[flwelshman]

Originally Posted by Kemp17

Bookend tackle. Joeckel, Lewan, or Fisher.

I see. So, you think we're getting two of these guys in this draft? In all honesty, it would truly surprise me to see pre combine if any of them slide to the 2nd round.