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Old 12-08-2012, 04:16 PM
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Pre-game; sidelines; huddles. QB's can absolutely shape their teams and show leaderships in these situations. The sound fx on Jerry Rice focused a LOT on this aspect of his command. And you know about P.Manning on the sidelines -- constantly going over the plays and the pictures -- alone sometimes, and often with his receivers. (Not all rah-rah guys -- but I don't think the original point was the rah-rah aspect, but the leadership. Whatever style you have).
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:20 PM
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with a new coach, PR likely will approach the season with a new perspective, which makes me believe he'll be clearing the cobwebs from his noggin. it is my belief the bolts will also prioritize the line; AND the new coaching staff will likely be able to teach 24-RM how to block in the NFL. 17 deserves another season to turn things around. If he can't step up next year with better protection - it's time to move on.
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Old 12-10-2012, 03:32 PM
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Yesterday proved what Rivers can do when he has a clean pocket to throw from. All year long he's been under duress, and when he hasn't, he felt imaginary pressure from all the hits he has taken this season. We MUST build the oline. Besides, this draft sucks for QB's. Before the trade deadline I wanted to trade for Kirk Cousins, but I think his price will sky rocket in the following weeks.
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:02 PM
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Yesterday proved what Rivers can do when he has a clean pocket to throw from. All year long he's been under duress, and when he hasn't, he felt imaginary pressure from all the hits he has taken this season. We MUST build the oline. Besides, this draft sucks for QB's. Before the trade deadline I wanted to trade for Kirk Cousins, but I think his price will sky rocket in the following weeks.
This. Keep Rivers and build around him. If he is still playing badly, which he didn't yesterday, then fine get rid of him. Worse case scenatio we have a good base for a rookie QB. Now, if we trade him this year, we still don't have an O-line and this is a bad class for QBs. Fans need to think it through.
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I say yes and get the first QB in the first round.
we Might as well Trade Rivers build our Defense up
as well as our Oline and work on our running game
until a better QB comes along
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we Might as well Trade Rivers build our Defense up
as well as our Oline and work on our running game
until a better QB comes along
And do what in the mean time? Throw in Whitehurst? lol. Pretty ridiculous.

There is not much wrong with our D. They kept us close in a vast majority of games this year.

And that mock draft is ridiculous as well. DT's are very last position we need addressed.
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we Might as well Trade Rivers build our Defense up
as well as our Oline and work on our running game
until a better QB comes along
Sure, I have heard that Melvin Ingram played a little QB in high school. He could fill in till then. Or maybe when Norv is fired, he could fill in at the QB postion. Surely ANYBODY can play better than PR! (note: this is not to be taken serious)
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And do what in the mean time? Throw in Whitehurst? lol. Pretty ridiculous.

There is not much wrong with our D. They kept us close in a vast majority of games this year.

And that mock draft is ridiculous as well. DT's are very last position we need addressed.
Sometimes I can't tell if that guy is serious or trolling.
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Im not saying trade but i think he does have high value. Teams like Arizona, Tennessee and Jacksonville would give 1 and a 2 for him, i'd ask for 1 and multiple 2's and 3's or a 1, 2's and one top starter and one mid level player. Say what to you want but PR is still a franchise QB, he still has a winning record as a starter, physically he's not in decline and has shown he is tough so i don think durability is a concern at his age.
However, the days of the Hershel Walker mega trades are over so you really wont get fair value for PR anyway, even in his "prime" (2-3 years ago)
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:33 PM
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Cuz he was average from 2008-2010 right? 4,000+yards including 4600+ in 2010 with a below average running game and qbr over 100 is average these days?

YES, very average. Last year, 10 QB's passed over 4000 yards including a rookie (Newton). 3 passed for over 5,000 yards. P. Manning wasn't on the list.

This year, 11 are on pace to do so.

QB stats have been watered down for a decade.
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