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Old 01-21-2013, 11:29 AM
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I'm more appalled at the fact there are no asian head coaches... The Rooney Rule is letting down the asians!
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I'm more appalled at the fact there are no asian head coaches... The Rooney Rule is letting down the asians!

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Token interviewing is weird. How about minority place kickers? Where is the love?
White cornerbacks have it worse!
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There is talk about expanding the rule to OCs and DCs.

I just don't get it. I think racism is pretty much gone now, ESPECIALLY when it comes to sports. If a man has the resume in this industry, I think he'll get a look. It just so happened that none of the major candidates this year were non-white. The rule is almost condescending at this point.
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There is talk about expanding the rule to OCs and DCs.

I just don't get it. I think racism is pretty much gone now, ESPECIALLY when it comes to sports. If a man has the resume in this industry, I think he'll get a look. It just so happened that none of the major candidates this year were non-white. The rule is almost condescending at this point.
Racism is far from gone.
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Racism is far from gone.
Racism as it used to be is gone IMO... Stereotyping on the other hand is far from gone, and will prob never go away.
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The NFL network brought up the subject of the Rooney rule and claimed it was time to expand that rule since all the new HC hires were white. I don't know what they would expand it too since the owners would pitch a fit if they were told they had to not only interview but hire a coach because he was a minority.
The competition for the head coach job is huge and you can't spend a month interviewing 10-15 candidates if they say you have to interview 5 minority coaches before you hire. I don't know how you change the rule to make everyone happy.
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The NFL network brought up the subject of the Rooney rule and claimed it was time to expand that rule since all the new HC hires were white. I don't know what they would expand it too since the owners would pitch a fit if they were told they had to not only interview but hire a coach because he was a minority.
The competition for the head coach job is huge and you can't spend a month interviewing 10-15 candidates if they say you have to interview 5 minority coaches before you hire. I don't know how you change the rule to make everyone happy.
They are talking about expanding it to include assistants, nobody is being forced to hire anybody.
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Racism as it used to be is gone IMO... Stereotyping on the other hand is far from gone, and will prob never go away.
There's a very fine line here -- if stereotyping leads to a conscious or even subconscious decision to exclude or decide one race of people are better than another, it is indeed racism.

One might say, "but 'Group A' IS better [maybe you use test scores], so it's a stereotype, not racism." You could never fully confirm this as IQ and test scores are likely a function of circumstance, which are not equivalent because of the effects of .... racism.

The experience white men have as coaches gives them a massive advantage -- and while I think it's 'fair' and more effective for the organization to want the most qualified coach, I am ok with the Rooney rule as it is now. But still, overall, I think football and sports have come a really long way in being blind to color.
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There's a very fine line here -- if stereotyping leads to a conscious or even subconscious decision to exclude or decide one race of people are better than another, it is indeed racism.

One might say, "but 'Group A' IS better [maybe you use test scores], so it's a stereotype, not racism." You could never fully confirm this as IQ and test scores are likely a function of circumstance, which are not equivalent because of the effects of .... racism.

The experience white men have as coaches gives them a massive advantage -- and while I think it's 'fair' and more effective for the organization to want the most qualified coach, I am ok with the Rooney rule as it is now. But still, overall, I think football and sports have come a really long way in being blind to color.

In that case, we must be into nearly crisis-mode with caucasian running backs, wideouts and DB's.

Otherwise, it's not a 2-way street.
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