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San Diego will NEVER get an expansion team as long there isn't a new stadium being built.
I realize that, which is why I wrote "San Diego is going to probably have to ante up significantly more", meaning hundreds of millions beyond the $250-$350m range of what they were offering the Chargers.

I believe a stadium can be constructed for less then the $1-$2 billion that seems the prevalent price tag these days. Every bell and whistle isn't necessary, and with more efficient planning, materials shopping, and construction, could stay within a $1 billion threshold.

Lucas Oil Stadium, opened in 2008, cost $720m, and has a dome. While it has been 9 years and costs have risen, it is conceivable that a very respectable NFL stadium could make it at around a billion or less.

It certainly can be done for much less than the $1.7-$2 billion figures more recently tossed out.

http://www.fromthisseat.com/index.ph...-cost-rankings
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Update on the Raiders proposed move to Las Vegas. SF gate article dated March 21, 2017.

An NFL vote may take place next week. According to the article, the move being ratified is likely, though not definite.


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Sounds like approval will be on the condition that the team stays in Oakland for 2 more years, and continues seeking a new stadium there.

According to "unnamed sources" inside the NFL, of course.
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Sounds like approval will be on the condition that the team stays in Oakland for 2 more years, and continues seeking a new stadium there.

According to "unnamed sources" inside the NFL, of course.
Mark Davis already said he'd stay in Oakland for 2 years so that's nothing but he can't continue to seek a new stadium there while money is spent on building one in Vegas
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Why would the Raiders relocation fee be less than the Rams and Chargers? It sounds like the fee, although not approved yet, would be $325 - $350m, not $650m. Seems strange...
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Why would the Raiders relocation fee be less than the Rams and Chargers? It sounds like the fee, although not approved yet, would be $325 - $350m, not $650m. Seems strange...
It's based on the size of the market you are going into, IIRC.
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Vegas sounds great for Davis from the business side, but it doesn't seem like the right thing to do for the long term football side of things. The home field advantage will probably instantly be the worst in the league. And what happens when they're not a contender, or heaven forbid another recession hits? They'll always sell out the luxury seating, but the rest of the stadium might look Q2016.
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Vegas sounds great for Davis from the business side, but it doesn't seem like the right thing to do for the long term football side of things. The home field advantage will probably instantly be the worst in the league. And what happens when they're not a contender, or heaven forbid another recession hits? They'll always sell out the luxury seating, but the rest of the stadium might look Q2016.

The bold above seems a bit unfair, and definitely too early to make that determination. The population of LV is certainly enough to support selling 50,000 seats 8-10 times a year. Yes there will be fans that head to LV to watch their team play LV, but that number won't be too significant. 10,000 people perhaps....leaving a 4 to 1 ratio on a sold out stadium of 50,000...hardly giving up field advantage. I like the move by Davis.......
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The bold above seems a bit unfair, and definitely too early to make that determination. The population of LV is certainly enough to support selling 50,000 seats 8-10 times a year. Yes there will be fans that head to LV to watch their team play LV, but that number won't be too significant. 10,000 people perhaps....leaving a 4 to 1 ratio on a sold out stadium of 50,000...hardly giving up field advantage. I like the move by Davis.......
Vegas will have the same transient problems that many west coast markets including LA and SD face. Many people aren't from there and already have other teams they cheer for.

Here's an article with a nice chart on LV's population growth

https://www.lvwash.org/html/importan...velopment.html

If Vegas loves football it won't be a problem, but LA and SD have had trouble filling stadiums and they are bigger markets that seem to be the closest comparison to LV as a football market.
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Isn't San Diego a bigger market than Las Vegas?
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