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Old 11-10-2015, 03:48 PM
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So much blame going around...MM, TT, the fans, Dean, LA...one name seems to fly under the radar and that's John Spanos. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for the mess we're in, it's John Spanos. This is directly from his bio on chargers.com:

John Spanos was named President—Football Operations for the Chargers in May 2015. He oversees all of the team’s football operations, including player personnel, coaching, player finance and the salary cap, medical, equipment, video, player engagement and security. He also represents the team at all league and management council meetings.

Drawing from his scouting experience, Spanos has seen his role in the NFL Draft grow exponentially since his ascension in 2013 and the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The team’s 2013 draft yielded three key starters: tackle D.J. Fluker, linebacker Manti Te’o, and wide receiver and Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen. The 2014 draft class saw four of the six players the Chargers selected make the team’s opening day roster, and the 2015 class is full of promising talent, headlined by running back Melvin Gordon, winner of the 2014 Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top running back, and runner up for the 2014 Heisman Trophy.

It seems we have gotten worse as a franchise with every promotion John has been given. It's just my opinion but the heart of the problem is John. Unfortunately, he'll never be let go so we look to be in trouble for some time to come.
You are probably correct. Unfortunately, it doesn't matter.
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I don't know that he's at the heart of the problem, but I do know there is no accountability and that bothers me even more.

The franchise is a mess. Just trade PR, let Weddle walk and move to LA. Then we'll be done with it and LA Charger fans can deal with Spanos.
For the last time Rivers has a no trade clause!!!
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For the last time Rivers has a no trade clause!!!
that doesn't mean he can't be traded
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:54 PM
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For the last time Rivers has a no trade clause!!!
Yeah, like there is any other franchise that is better than the Bolts that PR would ever agree to play for and waive his no trade clause.
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For the last time Rivers has a no trade clause!!!
After last night he may rethink about it.
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re: this thread. the apple doesn't fall from from the tree. unfortunately
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:07 PM
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What good is it to fire MM or TT when ultimately J Spanos should be the one to blame? It will be like the movie Groundhog Day as long as someone with the last name Spanos owns this team.

No trade clauses are excused all the time by disgruntled athletes. If you listened to PR after the game, I would qualify him as disgruntled
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:10 PM
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I wouldn't categorize Coryell as an authoritarian. What they do all have in common is having been successful as a Head Coach before coming to the Chargers. They haven't been able to identify and hire good coordinators who can step up so they have to hire someone who has done it before successfully. That is all.

Maybe my view/opinion of Coryell is from a childs eye - as he was the coach when I was a kid and I always saw him that way. Maybe it was just the scowl. I suppose in thinking back to stories Fouts, Bauer, or Madden would share of him, he was more of a "Nutty Professor" kinda coach.

Here on the CMB, however, if you hire a coach who has been successful elsewhere you get the 'He's a retread!' crowd crowing. But, really... who cares so long as the guy is a proven winner and leader of men.

I know I wouldn't.

case in point, the last two hires. When I heard the announcement that Norv was given the keys to the Lamborghini, my stomach turned. I literally shook my head and said, "We're doomed" to my friend riding shotgun. Then when I heard about McCoy's hiring, all I did was shake my head and mutter, "Norval 2.0"

Now, I know you can only coach those you have; can't coach a guy on the IR, but man alive, the guys who you DO have they have to show that there's been some actual coaching going on there. And I'm okay if a player isn't as gifted athletically as the one he steps in for. But, he darn well better give it his all and be mistake free. Stuff we saw last night from STARTERS (Johnson and Fluker) is just inexcusable.
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Yeah, like there is any other franchise that is better than the Bolts that PR would ever agree to play for and waive his no trade clause.
If I was PR I'd ask to go to the Texans... They have the defense and the offense is missing just a few pieces.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:22 PM
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If I was PR I'd ask to go to the Texans... They have the defense and the offense is missing just a few pieces.
PR should go to Denver. Ownership is committed to winning, and Manning is ready to collect social security.

Just imagine what this FO could do with more picks in the draft ... oh, never mind.
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