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I hate when I hear people say moving to LA automatically increases franchise value. What absolute nonsense. Why? Explain to me why please.
Massive population exposure, instantly. Tv rights would be through the roof, based upon mass population and related ratings.

Endorsement city USA. West Coast monster vs New York East Coast Monster. Spotlight. Hollywood, celebrities, and stars. Media exposure. The bigger your domain, the greater the opportunity to cash in on the fantasy and reality of the NFL. That L.A. stadium will make money for whichever team plays there, but the big picture is that it will serve as the show biz platform for the league. Think concerts and entertainment laden with NFL endorsers such as Hyundai, Visa and Microsoft.

Location, location, location.

San Diego is a backwater town in the scheme of pro sports markets.
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Massive population exposure, instantly. Tv rights would be through the roof, based upon mass population and related ratings.

Endorsement city USA. West Coast monster vs New York East Coast Monster. Spotlight. Hollywood, celebrities, and stars. Media exposure. The bigger your domain, the greater the opportunity to cash in on the fantasy and reality of the NFL. That L.A. stadium will make money for whichever team plays there, but the big picture is that it will serve as the show biz platform for the league. Think concerts and entertainment laden with NFL endorsers such as Hyundai, Visa and Microsoft.

Location, location, location.

San Diego is a backwater town in the scheme of pro sports markets.

Anthony Lynn and his Band of Bolts.
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StubHub will become the hottest ticket.
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Anthony Lynn and his Band of Bolts.
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Massive population exposure, instantly. Tv rights would be through the roof, based upon mass population and related ratings.

Endorsement city USA. West Coast monster vs New York East Coast Monster. Spotlight. Hollywood, celebrities, and stars. Media exposure. The bigger your domain, the greater the opportunity to cash in on the fantasy and reality of the NFL. That L.A. stadium will make money for whichever team plays there, but the big picture is that it will serve as the show biz platform for the league. Think concerts and entertainment laden with NFL endorsers such as Hyundai, Visa and Microsoft.

Location, location, location.

San Diego is a backwater town in the scheme of pro sports markets.
This is all just fluff. There is absolutely nothing rigid about this - nothing concrete. Just anecdotal BS.

Yes, LA is a much bigger market. The Chargers will have much, much less of the pie in that market. They have no fans in that market. They have no stadium - they are just leasing from the Rams who actually own it.

Oh, and they took on $650mm of debt just to go there. Tell me how that increases equity...
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This is all just fluff. There is absolutely nothing rigid about this - nothing concrete. Just anecdotal BS.

Yes, LA is a much bigger market. The Chargers will have much, much less of the pie in that market. They have no fans in that market. They have no stadium - they are just leasing from the Rams who actually own it.

Oh, and they took on $650mm of debt just to go there. Tell me how that increases equity...
Do you think the bankers who do the valuations don't know how to do their jobs?
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Do you think the bankers who do the valuations don't know how to do their jobs?
I work in private equity and I can say from experience and with absolute certainty that bankers do not do their jobs.

Bankers are paid by creating change, creating transactions. Unlike p/e, bankers get paid on originating a transaction, not on the transaction economics. They're salespeople, they're incentivized by the commission on a deal. And no deal = no commission.

"Oh you need a $650mm loan to relocate? No problem Dean, we'll cover you. And you're gonna make tons of money! Your franchise value doubles automatically! It's LA!"
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I hate when I hear people say moving to LA automatically increases franchise value. What absolute nonsense. Why? Explain to me why please.
Population San Diego County 3.5 millions
Population Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernadino Counties 17 million
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Population San Diego County 3.5 millions
Population Los Angeles, Orange, Riverside, San Bernadino Counties 17 million
17 million eh? And how many of those are Chargers fans?
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17 million eh? And how many of those are Chargers fans?
It's all about the potential! The Chargers have a great opportunity to take the market from the dumpster fire that is the Rams because they can put a better product on the field right now. 13 point snoozers with a horrible offense and and a rookie (bust) qb aren't going to indeer the fans in the LA market. The Chargers may have lost a lot of games this year but they definitely weren't doing it by playing boring games.
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I work in private equity and I can say from experience and with absolute certainty that bankers do not do their jobs.

Bankers are paid by creating change, creating transactions. Unlike p/e, bankers get paid on originating a transaction, not on the transaction economics. They're salespeople, they're incentivized by the commission on a deal. And no deal = no commission.

"Oh you need a $650mm loan to relocate? No problem Dean, we'll cover you. And you're gonna make tons of money! Your franchise value doubles automatically! It's LA!"
Interesting perspective.

Personally, I think they do have a clue on valuations of major-sized corporations.

I've also seen what you describe: a skewed valuation in order to drive a transaction that makes them money.

Thus leading to the question: which houses stated the valuations? And did they all have a greed motive?
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