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Old 01-29-2017, 10:34 PM
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Listen, I'm not on here to argue with you or anyone. The bottom line is the Spanos family played on the SD fans emotions knowing they were leaving and took their money, starting 2 years ago....and now they want us to pay, travel and lick our wounds doing it....
For a guy who doesn't want to argue, you sure came out shootin', and don't seem fixin' to stop anytime soon . . . .
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Old 02-16-2017, 10:02 AM
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My perspective about the move is that it increases the ability of the players to make more money off the field thus making it a more desirable place for free agents and top draft picks to play.
They can take a smaller contract from the Chargers alleviating salary cap issues, make the money they want and making the team more competitive.
LA is a fickle market, if they start winning ALOT the local fans will come. I can't think of a rival between the Chargers and Rams that would create a hatred of Ram fans towards the Chargers like we have with the Raiders.
I don't think Spanos cares is San Diego residents come to LA to see them play, he is betting on the local fans to fill the seats.
The current season ticket prices are outrageous, but when the Chargers come back with a discount rate, the local fans will give it a shot even if they don't attend the games, they would look at it as an investment when they sell their tickets to visiting fans at a higher rate.
I'm still not happy they moved, but I agree with other posters, San Diego is not a hot bed for professional sports, too many other activities to do and our population is fairly transient with natives becoming the minority. It is what it is guys.
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Spanos moved the Chargers to LA, and absolutely broke our hearts to make the team more attractive to free agents?
Recall that little phrase "the San Diego discount" as well as "America's finest city" plus a couple dozen more- People love San Diego, players included. Sure, there are some (ELI) that sell their soul, sell out, screw people over and yeah just screw people for the few huge markets, NY and LA and that's pretty much what happened. Nobody's debating SD has a lot of great entertainment options but ummm LA has more including more traffic, more crime, more pollution, more concrete and a gas station and a Taco Bell on every corner!
I'm bitter. As a life long Charger fan and native San Diego (almost, moved here at three from Akron - thanks Mom and Dad!) and a lover of all things Bolt related, I went from being cool with the Spanos family to hate pretty much. Why was MV out of the question but downtown perfect? It was a sexier option that's why. BTW I agree. A downtown stadium would have been way cooler. It came down to this- Remember the sweetheart deal Spanos got from the city to fund the Q's expansion? Well, he wanted something along those lines or he was splitting. He's cheap. He's now letting the other current heartbreaking you know what build the stadium and assume the bulk of the debt/risk. Some may call it shrewd or even smart....Not I. Cheap. Cheap, and he scewed a lot of good people over to boot. Unfortunately perfectly acceptable behaivor in today's climate. Well he's got a losing organization! (remember I'm bitter) The only way this works out as far as building a new fan base is if he wins. If LA is so great why did the Rams and the Raiders leave? They couldn't win and therefore had no LA support. They left for greener pastures to cities that were begging for them! Los Angeles does not want them! Do you think anybody in LA would spend billions right now for the Chargers? This is the perfect set-up to be the biggest mistake in sports history! The only way this works out is if they win. By the way the backwater sports town of San Diego sells out the stadium when we win. Everybody loves a winner. Do you have faith in the Spanos org?
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I look forward to your in-depth analysis of what the Mayor, City Council and citizens of San Diego did wrong, in the "Chargers leaving San Diego" thread.
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Yeah. After two weeks, I kinda figured out he wasn't going to reply.
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I'm not sure Spanos is a sly fox. I think his option have cornered him into the position he is know in.
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I'm not sure Spanos is a sly fox. I think his option have cornered him into the position he is know in.
He had the option of being the biggest show in town in one city or being the 10th, 11th, 12th, or whatever show in town in another city.
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He had the option of being the biggest show in town in one city or being the 10th, 11th, 12th, or whatever show in town in another city.
Sly certainly does not describe Spanos, he isn't that bright. Greedy is far more accurate though.

It was a choice of the embarrassment of playing in front of 20, 30, or 40,000 people in the 100K seat Coliseum, and not being able to charge astronomical ticket prices, or playing in a shoebox, and being able to grossly gouge people. His choice was obvious.

And yes, he could have been to top dog in San Diego, but chose instead to be one of the less desired of the many choices in huge LA. Hardly "sly", or intelligent from that perspective, but since his ultimate goal is to increase the value of his top asset, the Chargers franchise, it fits.
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Spanos moved the Chargers to LA, and absolutely broke our hearts to make the team more attractive to free agents?
Recall that little phrase "the San Diego discount" as well as "America's finest city" plus a couple dozen more- People love San Diego, players included. Sure, there are some (ELI) that sell their soul, sell out, screw people over and yeah just screw people for the few huge markets, NY and LA and that's pretty much what happened. Nobody's debating SD has a lot of great entertainment options but ummm LA has more including more traffic, more crime, more pollution, more concrete and a gas station and a Taco Bell on every corner!
I'm bitter. As a life long Charger fan and native San Diego (almost, moved here at three from Akron - thanks Mom and Dad!) and a lover of all things Bolt related, I went from being cool with the Spanos family to hate pretty much. Why was MV out of the question but downtown perfect? It was a sexier option that's why. BTW I agree. A downtown stadium would have been way cooler. It came down to this- Remember the sweetheart deal Spanos got from the city to fund the Q's expansion? Well, he wanted something along those lines or he was splitting. He's cheap. He's now letting the other current heartbreaking you know what build the stadium and assume the bulk of the debt/risk. Some may call it shrewd or even smart....Not I. Cheap. Cheap, and he scewed a lot of good people over to boot. Unfortunately perfectly acceptable behaivor in today's climate. Well he's got a losing organization! (remember I'm bitter) The only way this works out as far as building a new fan base is if he wins. If LA is so great why did the Rams and the Raiders leave? They couldn't win and therefore had no LA support. They left for greener pastures to cities that were begging for them! Los Angeles does not want them! Do you think anybody in LA would spend billions right now for the Chargers? This is the perfect set-up to be the biggest mistake in sports history! The only way this works out is if they win. By the way the backwater sports town of San Diego sells out the stadium when we win. Everybody loves a winner. Do you have faith in the Spanos org?
with phillip rivers there is always a chance to win. and don't sound so pessimistic. only the sith think in absolutes.
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