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Old 03-14-2017, 03:05 PM
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I can see the possibility of Cam dropping to the second round. There are so many pass rushers, Safeties, CB's and a couple of QB's and RB's that are highly rated - it could be that the Bolts would get a shot a Cam in round two.

My preference would be a trade down and pick Ramczyk but if they stay put they'll probably pick one of the pass rushers or Hooker - possibly even the TE from Bama, Howard - his size, speed ratio is inviting.
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If we can trade down a bit;
1. Cam Robinson OT, Alabama
2.Dan Freeney OG, Ind
3. Marcus Williams FS, Utah
3A. Kevin King, CB, Wash
4. Wayne Gallman RB, Clemson
5. Dawuane Smoot DE, IL
6.Jeremy Sprinkle TE, Ark
7. Josh Malone WR, Tenn
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I can see the possibility of Cam dropping to the second round. There are so many pass rushers, Safeties, CB's and a couple of QB's and RB's that are highly rated - it could be that the Bolts would get a shot a Cam in round two.

My preference would be a trade down and pick Ramczyk but if they stay put they'll probably pick one of the pass rushers or Hooker - possibly even the TE from Bama, Howard - his size, speed ratio is inviting.
Howard and Henry would be formidable duo!!
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I am not an advocate of trading away from the type of talent found in the top ten overall. That said, clearly Cam was initially being proclaimed as top ten, so of course he has been looked at....and determined to be late round talent. It is very unlikely I would trade that far down, as the drop in talent from 7th to 18th is too great for my liking. This team needs more Bosa's not Flukers......
I like that line - it makes your point well.

We often lean on the mock drafts and "top 100" lists to make our points and we argue back and forth and so on. But looking back on past drafts - look how often the pundits are wrong, think about the great players found late in the draft or even undrafted. Kind of silly when you think about it - but it's fun.
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If we can trade down a bit;
1. Cam Robinson OT, Alabama
2.Dan Freeney OG, Ind
3. Marcus Williams FS, Utah
3A. Kevin King, CB, Wash
4. Wayne Gallman RB, Clemson
5. Dawuane Smoot DE, IL
6.Jeremy Sprinkle TE, Ark
7. Josh Malone WR, Tenn
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Old 03-14-2017, 03:22 PM
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I can see the possibility of Cam dropping to the second round. There are so many pass rushers, Safeties, CB's and a couple of QB's and RB's that are highly rated - it could be that the Bolts would get a shot a Cam in round two.

My preference would be a trade down and pick Ramczyk but if they stay put they'll probably pick one of the pass rushers or Hooker - possibly even the TE from Bama, Howard - his size, speed ratio is inviting.
He is a beast. I was all-in on him last year and nothing has changed.
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I like that line - it makes your point well.

We often lean on the mock drafts and "top 100" lists to make our points and we argue back and forth and so on. But looking back on past drafts - look how often the pundits are wrong, think about the great players found late in the draft or even undrafted. Kind of silly when you think about it - but it's fun.
The way I see drafting.....

Top ten pick overall needs to be a bonafide star.

The rest of the first round needs to be a solid starter day one.

Rounds 2 through 4 needs to be players that are believed to have the talent to become starters.

Rounds 5 through 7 needs to be players that have talent to improve the team
depth.

Team needs are a consideration in every pick except when making a top ten overall pick.
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Howard and Henry would be formidable duo!!
You can bet the house that PR would love it.
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If we can trade down a bit;
1. Cam Robinson OT, Alabama
2.Dan Freeney OG, Ind
3. Marcus Williams FS, Utah
3A. Kevin King, CB, Wash
4. Wayne Gallman RB, Clemson
5. Dawuane Smoot DE, IL
6.Jeremy Sprinkle TE, Ark
7. Josh Malone WR, Tenn
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The way I see drafting.....

Top ten pick overall needs to be a bonafide star.

The rest of the first round needs to be a solid starter day one.

Rounds 2 through 4 needs to be players that are believed to have the talent to become starters.

Rounds 5 through 7 needs to be players that have talent to improve the team
depth.

Team needs are a consideration in every pick except when making a top ten overall pick.
Looks like a good, common sense approach. Where we differ is when people exclude the OL, as so many do because it's not a "star" position.
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If we can trade down a bit;
1. Cam Robinson OT, Alabama
2.Dan Freeney OG, Ind
3. Marcus Williams FS, Utah
3A. Kevin King, CB, Wash
4. Wayne Gallman RB, Clemson
5. Dawuane Smoot DE, IL
6.Jeremy Sprinkle TE, Ark
7. Josh Malone WR, Tenn
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:37 PM
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Looks like a good, common sense approach. Where we differ is when people exclude the OL, as so many do because it's not a "star" position.
They aren't stars......

Take any big name LOT, and any big name PRS, you know on every play where that LOT will be......but not the PRS......

Take a big name WR, and any big name CB, they both can be just about anywhere.......

OG's, OC's, NT's DT's all fall into the same place each play, DE's might be the exception, and some of them became huge stars.
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They aren't stars......

Take any big name LOT, and any big name PRS, you know on every play where that LOT will be......but not the PRS......

Take a big name WR, and any big name CB, they both can be just about anywhere.......

OG's, OC's, NT's DT's all fall into the same place each play, DE's might be the exception, and some of them became huge stars.
But, without those big dudes blocking for the stars, they'll never be stars. It's my belief that winning football starts up front - build a strong OL and DL and a team is on their way.
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If we can trade down a bit;
1. Cam Robinson OT, Alabama
2.Dan Freeney OG, Ind
3. Marcus Williams FS, Utah
3A. Kevin King, CB, Wash
4. Wayne Gallman RB, Clemson
5. Dawuane Smoot DE, IL
6.Jeremy Sprinkle TE, Ark
7. Josh Malone WR, Tenn
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I am not a big OJ Howard fan.... he is overrated IMO.
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