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Old 02-28-2006, 02:34 PM
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Upshaw says NFL labor talks break down again

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NFL labor talks broke off Tuesday three days before the start of free agency, leaving teams and players in a quandary about negotiating new contracts.
Gene Upshaw, executive director of the NFL Players Association, spent the last three days meeting in New York and Washington with commissioner Paul Tagliabue.
"We're deadlocked. There's nowhere to go," Upshaw said. "There's no reason to continue meeting."
Although the contract does not expire until after the 2007 season, this is a critical period in the negotiations to extend the 12-year-old contract. Talks have been going on for more than a year.

Without an extension, the 2007 season would become a so-called uncapped year with no spending limit and no minimum, and players could potentially face a lockout in 2008.
Team officials and player agents have said that doing business without an extension -- particularly with the free agent signing period set to begin Friday and the draft on April 29-30 -- will prove virtually impossible. Because of the extreme circumstances that would exist with an uncapped year on the horizon, it would be difficult to meet the financial expectations of free agents and high-round draft choices.

"We're too far apart on our economics and too far apart on revenue sharing -- the ball is in their court.," Upshaw said. "We'll go to the uncapped year, there won't be an extension."
Free agency is scheduled to start Friday. If the deal is not extended, this would be the last year with a salary cap, so agents and team officials want to know how to structure contracts.
For example, if there is no extension, the salary cap is expected to be about $95 million this season and annual raises after 2006 in a long-term deal would be limited to 30 percent. If the deal is extended the cap could be $10 million or more higher.
The sides have agreed on a number of issues. The biggest one is changing the formula for the amount of money to go to the players from "designated gross revenues" -- primarily television and ticket sales -- to "total gross revenues," which include almost every bit a money a a team generates.
However, they differ on the percentage of revenues to be allocated to the players -- the union is asking for 60 percent and the league's current offer is 56.2 percent.
However, there are also disputes among groups of owners on that issue, too. Tagliabue has called a league meeting in New York for Thursday to try to resolve them.
Teams with lower revenues -- mostly small-market clubs -- say that if the contributions to the players' fund are equally apportioned among 32 franchises, they will have to pay a substantially larger proportion of their nontelevision and ticket money because they have less. Owners of high-revenue teams, like Dallas' Jerry Jones, claim spreading the load equally would force some teams to work harder to generate new sources of money.
Another high-revenue owner, New England's Robert Kraft, says the formula does not take stadium debt into account, as he has on Gillette Stadium in Foxborough, Mass.

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reported Monday that league owners are scheduled to meet Tuesday via conference call to discuss the status of negotiations.
Two owners told Pasquarelli on Monday afternoon that they have delayed their departures from Indianapolis, site of the NFL scouting combine since Wednesday, to accommodate the 6 p.m. ET timing of the conference call.
Information from The Associated Press and ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli was used in this report.
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:36 PM
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So can this be both a good thing and a bad thing for the Chargers? It makes it harder for us to sign Brees to a long term deal, but it also makes it harder for other teams trying to sign him, right?

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Old 02-28-2006, 02:38 PM
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I cant make up my mind whether this whole CBA/uncapped year think is either "no big deal" or "the death of the NFL as we know it".

I do know that if the Giants turn into the Yankees I will become a college football fan.
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:39 PM
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What's the big deal between 56.2 % and 60%? who don't they call it good at 57.5%?
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:48 PM
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NFL Statement “Negotiations with the NFL Players Association on an extension of the Collective Bargaining Agreement broke off today with no further talks scheduled. Commissioner Tagliabue then notified clubs that a special league meeting will be held on Thursday (March 2) in New York to explain to the NFL clubs how the NFLPA is overreaching and why we have been unable to come to an agreement with the NFLPA on an extension. There will be no discussion at Thursday’s league meeting of internal revenue-sharing issues. The league year will begin as scheduled on Friday, March 3.”

Looks like the rumor was wrong.
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:05 PM
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Chris Mortenson is saying that it is the teams that have 20 mil dollars under the cap that would benefit from the CBA falling through.

The Chargers are one of those teams.

The NFL's statement was just read over ESPN a minute ago as well.
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uncapped football would be as bad as watching baseball
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:19 PM
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The way I understand things, is that the Chargers would really benefit THIS YEAR if there is no agreement reached. The Chiefs, Raiders, and Broncos (and other teams like the 'Skins) would be forced to cut a bunch of players. And the teams under the cap, like us, would be in a great position to get the available FAs. The AFC West would be very different, and the Bolts would have a huge advantage.

But after this coming season, the Chargers will be a small market team that couldn't compete with the spending of the Yankees and Red Sox of the NFL. Small market teams would be "money-ball" teams like the Oakland A's.
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RIP NFL!!

It was fun.
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What's the big deal between 56.2 % and 60%? who don't they call it good at 57.5%?
Of $3 billion? Quite a chunk of change.

In the end, they'll get it done IMO. This is last second posturing.
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