Which is toast? Brees or Rivers

[riverhead]

Originally Posted by foley5

Rivers should be gone he is a baby that was willing to walk away from the team and wouldn't sign in the first place. He has no loyalty...... let's take what we can get for him and sign Brees who deserves a deal. Truth is we have no idea what has been said or what AJ will do but Brees is proven and at least Feely has won some games in the NFL.

Need to get your chronology and facts to coincide. Remember Drew and LT holding out?

[nshep42]

Sports Illustrated.com "truth & rumors"

a day after reporting that PR was gone for abraham (a move for a vet who doesnt fit our D and has an attitude problem aka I cant see AJ doin it so its prob some crap made up to drive the price up for the redskins & their own PR)

SI says that Drew Brees is more likely to be the quarterback leaving after this year...but that we'll prob franchise him again and just wait to see what happens...personally, if you are the lions, bucs, dolphins, or any team that wants a west coast type attack, you'd have to be crazy not to take Drew over PR, Drew makes good reads, manages the game and has accuracy to let his recievers pile up YAC yardage.

That being said, if Drew gets us to the playoffs with the schedule that we have...then he has the cajones to be a Super Bowl winning qb (as sson as we get rid of marty, but I wont get in to that)

[sanluischargerfan]

Originally Posted by foley5

Rivers should be gone he is a baby that was willing to walk away from the team and wouldn't sign in the first place. He has no loyalty...... let's take what we can get for him and sign Brees who deserves a deal. Truth is we have no idea what has been said or what AJ will do but Brees is proven and at least Feely has won some games in the NFL.

People hold out all the time. It is just a part of the biz. Don't hate the players, it is the agents that take things too far at times.

[Chargeroo]

Suppose the powers that are in charge of the Bolts are convinced that Philip Rivers is a sure fire NFL Quarterback. What if they are convinced that he'll be at least as good as Drew? If that's the case, then look at it from the money angle. Drew will require a new contract - probably a large bonus and a long term high priced salary. Rivers already has a contract and has already been paid his signing bonus. The team could come out about $10 mil. ahead by putting the franchise tag on Drew and then trading him. (Franchised player = 2 first round picks) The $10 mil. saved could be used to sign a FA Safety and perhaps a OT or WR. The draft picks would probably be one this year and one next year. Trading Drew could conceivably allow them to end up filling three needs next season and still have two firsts for the following year. In short, it could set up the franchise for some long term success.

I've always backed Drew. I always believed he'd be a good NFL Quarterback and it turned out to be true but if the same is true of Philip, the team would be better off in the long run to keep Rivers and trade Drew. So ask yourself "am I a Charger fan or a Brees fan?" because it may well come out this way. This is a business and money matters. You're fooling yourself if you think it doesn't matter.

[sanluischargerfan]

convinced that Philip Rivers is a sure fire NFL Quarterback.

Sounds good Roo. Some questions might be ... why didn't PR beat Drew in the open comp during camp if he is sure fire NFL QB? Would another team give almost as much in picks for Rivers and if so, would PR give back the signing Bonus to go to a team in need of a starter?

[lca9900]

Originally Posted by sanluischargerfan

Sounds good Roo. Some questions might be ... why didn't PR beat Drew in the open comp during camp if he is sure fire NFL QB? Would another team give almost as much in picks for Rivers and if so, would PR give back the signing Bonus to go to a team in need of a starter?

The question is would you give back the bonus money since there is no guarantee that any team that trades for Rivers would renegotiate his contract and pay him new bonus money. The new team position could be that since he is under contract and as most continue to point out "unproven" why renegotiate and shell out more cash than what he is already owed on the orginial contract. However Rivers could pay back the bonus and ask the team to terminate his current contract so that he basically becomes a free agent. But he takes the risk that he would actually get the same contract or better. And as you pointed out he didn't beat out Drew during the open competition during training camp. And as some suggested he has regressed due to his performance during the meaningless preseason games. Now taking all of this under consideration, would you give back the bonus money?

[JoeMcRugby]

Originally Posted by sanluischargerfan

Sounds good Roo. Some questions might be ... why didn't PR beat Drew in the open comp during camp if he is sure fire NFL QB? Would another team give almost as much in picks for Rivers and if so, would PR give back the signing Bonus to go to a team in need of a starter?

Everyone knows that the job was Brees' to lose (and rightly so) following Brees' Pro Bowl season.

There was no "open competition". If there was, PR would have had at least one preseason game series with the first team offense. But PR played zero plays in the preseason with the first team offense.

[SDMikey]

Opinions??

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printe...y-sports-print

[dfioc]

Originally Posted by SDMikey

Opinions??

http://www.newsday.com/sports/printe...y-sports-print

This is being discussed in another thread. IMO, pure speculation. The one who makes that decision either has not made it or is keeping it to himself.

[sagagsr]

"according to a person with knowledge of the situation. Brees, the Chargers' starter, does not have a contract for 2006"



well duh! these Least coast teams know nothing of what goes down here in cali