How Brees stacks up to some of the great ones.

[bolthead123]

Originally Posted by lu4449

In SI a couple of week ago, one of their player's polls asked which NFL QB is the most underrated. And the winner was Brees! That poll was done before this season started, I believe. At least the players recognize how good he is.

Great job of digging up those stats! I'm a big Brees fan, but even I am surprised by those numbers.

SI Players Poll[Based on a survey of 357 NFL players] Who is the NFL's most overrated QB?

Michael Vick, Falcons .....13%
Eli Manning, Giants .....8%
Daunte Culpepper, Vikings .....7%
Brett Favre, Packers .....7%
Jake Plummer, Broncos .....7%
Peyton Manning, Colts .....6%
Drew Bledsoe, Cowboys .....6%
Aaron Brooks, Saints .....5%
Donovan McNabb, Eagles .....5%
Joey Harrington, Lions .....5%
Tom Brady, Patriots .....3%

Who is the NFL's most underrated QB?

Drew Brees, Chargers .....13%
Tom Brady, Patriots.....10%
Trent Green, Chiefs .....8%
Daunte Culpepper, Vikings .....7%
Jake Delhomme, Panthers .....7%
Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks .....7%
Marc Bulger, Rams .....7%
Byron Leftwich, Jaguars .....4%
Trent Dilfer, Browns .....4%
Steve McNair, Titans .....3%
David Carr, Texans .....2%

[lu4449]

Thanks, Bolthead, I was too lazy to go back and dig that up.
Cheers!

[TJ21]

Thats why you gotta keep him, stats don't lie.

[coach14]

I know it has been said a million times, but I'll say it again. Brees is another piece to the puzzle for a Super Bowl ring in SD. Have all of you noticed how we have been quietly signing all the other pieces to long term extensions?

If AJ can finally admit the Brees is the man and sign him to a long term deal, we will have only one thing left to do in the offseason....improve the secondary!!!

[spysnipedis]

funny they put tom brady in the underrated section and he gets 2nd place..

I believe Drew Brees is the QB for the Chargers and hopefully will get signed long-term.

[coach14]

Originally Posted by bolthead123

SI Players Poll[Based on a survey of 357 NFL players] Who is the NFL's most overrated QB?

Michael Vick, Falcons .....13%
Eli Manning, Giants .....8%
Daunte Culpepper, Vikings .....7%
Brett Favre, Packers .....7%
Jake Plummer, Broncos .....7%
Peyton Manning, Colts .....6%
Drew Bledsoe, Cowboys .....6%
Aaron Brooks, Saints .....5%
Donovan McNabb, Eagles .....5%
Joey Harrington, Lions .....5%
Tom Brady, Patriots .....3%

Who is the NFL's most underrated QB?

Drew Brees, Chargers .....13%
Tom Brady, Patriots.....10%
Trent Green, Chiefs .....8%
Daunte Culpepper, Vikings .....7%
Jake Delhomme, Panthers .....7%
Matt Hasselbeck, Seahawks .....7%
Marc Bulger, Rams .....7%
Byron Leftwich, Jaguars .....4%
Trent Dilfer, Browns .....4%
Steve McNair, Titans .....3%
David Carr, Texans .....2%

I love the fact that Kerry Collins isn't on either one.He isn't overrated because no one thinks he's good and he isn't underated because no one thinks he's good. He is what he is.....an average QB at best.

[Totally Bolted]

Good post.
Instead of just saying he's good. You back it up with stats! hard to deny the evidence we have a solid QB.

It does show Peyton is pretty solid. It's one thing to start hot but to continue over time is a sign of abilities.
Too bad he'll suck when he plays us. NOT.

Hey send the stats to AJ. Or better yet to PR.

[rubbermusic]

Originally Posted by Totally Bolted

Good post.
Instead of just saying he's good. You back it up with stats! hard to deny the evidence we have a solid QB.

It does show Peyton is pretty solid. It's one thing to start hot but to continue over time is a sign of abilities.
Too bad he'll suck when he plays us. NOT.

Hey send the stats to AJ. Or better yet to PR.

Hopefully someone in the Chargers camp will think to look these up for themselves. It's not always wins that determines great QB's Marino, Young, Elway, many others started out with bad records and bad teams and they all went through their up's and down's. Hopefully the Chargers are smart enough to realize the talent this guy has and the future impact he will have in this league.

[SuperMatt]

Originally Posted by rubbermusic

Hopefully someone in the Chargers camp will think to look these up for themselves. It's not always wins that determines great QB's Marino, Young, Elway, many others started out with bad records and bad teams and they all went through their up's and down's. Hopefully the Chargers are smart enough to realize the talent this guy has and the future impact he will have in this league.

I happen to disagree here. I believe wins is the only stat that matters. Teams don't play 16 games to see who can throw the most touchdowns. The object of the game is to win it. The better a QB is at winning games, the more valuable he is to his team.

That's why Brady is soooo valauble. His numbers aren't startling, but he's 9-0 in the playoffs. You KNOW if you give him a chance to win the game for you, he's going to do it.

I believe Roethlisberger still has only lost to the Patriots. He has less than stellar numbers (aside from QB rating) but look at the difference he makes. Pittsburgh is a decent, but very beatable and quite ordinary when Ben's on the sidelines. When he's in the game, they are incredibly tough, and seem to always do what they need to for the win.

That's what convinced me Brees was the real deal. When he came off the bench that first year (mebbe 2nd) to rally us to the winning TD against the Chiefs I said "that guy's got moxie!" Then to hear him talk each week on 1090 through that horrible 4-12 season and refusing to roll over and give the starting job to PR, you just knew the kid had what it takes to be great in this league. And he's still getting BETTER.

This team is built to bully the rest of the NFL for the next decade. I love it!

[rubbermusic]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt

I happen to disagree here. I believe wins is the only stat that matters. Teams don't play 16 games to see who can throw the most touchdowns. The object of the game is to win it. The better a QB is at winning games, the more valuable he is to his team.

That's why Brady is soooo valauble. His numbers aren't startling, but he's 9-0 in the playoffs. You KNOW if you give him a chance to win the game for you, he's going to do it.

I believe Roethlisberger still has only lost to the Patriots. He has less than stellar numbers (aside from QB rating) but look at the difference he makes. Pittsburgh is a decent, but very beatable and quite ordinary when Ben's on the sidelines. When he's in the game, they are incredibly tough, and seem to always do what they need to for the win.

That's what convinced me Brees was the real deal. When he came off the bench that first year (mebbe 2nd) to rally us to the winning TD against the Chiefs I said "that guy's got moxie!" Then to hear him talk each week on 1090 through that horrible 4-12 season and refusing to roll over and give the starting job to PR, you just knew the kid had what it takes to be great in this league. And he's still getting BETTER.

This team is built to bully the rest of the NFL for the next decade. I love it!

Well of course you have to win but my point was being that many successful or hall of fame quarterbacks didn't come in this league and immediately lead their team to the playoffs or super bowl. There were growing pains for many of them. Look how long it took Elway to win a Super Bowl. Does that mean he was not a good QB until then? No he was one of the best ever the SB just solidified that. Marino never won the big one but he remains one of the greatest ever. Brees can be just that, he has the potential to be one of the best ever even if he doesn't win the big game or it takes a while. Not many QB's come in like Brady did, but lets not forget that the Pats did an awesome job building that team and Brady was one a big part of a bigger machine. How good are they now with all their injuries? You're right though, give Brady a chance to win and he will step up.