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Old 12-12-2006, 10:03 AM
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Default WR are they all just a Gamble?

When you look at the wr position the past few seasons by and large it seems to be a hit or miss position.


2006
1 1 25 25 Santonio Holmes Steelers Ohio State 37 rec 585 yds 1td
2 2 4 36 Chad Jackson Patriots Florida REC 10 | YDS 131 | TD 3
3 2 12 44 Sinorice Moss Giants Miami (FL) 4 / 25 yds /0
4 2 20 52 Greg Jennings Packers Western Michigan 43/ 625/ 3td
7 Marques Colston Saints 59 /917 /7

2005
1 1 3 3 Braylon Edwards Browns Michigan 50 /763 /5
2 1 7 7 Troy Williamson Vikings South Carolina 30 /380 /0
3 1 10 10 Mike Williams Lions USC 1/ 7 /0
4 1 21 21 Matt Jones Jaguars Arkansas 29/ 458/2
5 1 22 22 Mark Clayton Ravens Oklahoma 57/ 763 /4
6 1 27 27 Roddy White Falcons Alabama-Birmingham 22 /300/0
7 2 3 35 Reggie Brown Eagles Georgia 39/ 712/7
8 2 7 39 Mark Bradley Bears Oklahoma 10/ 179 /2
9 2 23 55 Roscoe Parrish Bills Miami (FL) 17 /270/2
10 2 26 58 Terrence Murphy Packers Texas A&M 0/ 0/ 0
11 2 29 61 Vincent Jackson Chargers Northern Colorado 16 /262 /3

2004
1 1 3 3 Larry Fitzgerald Cardinals Pittsburgh 56/ 743/4
2 1 7 7 Roy Williams Lions Texas 69/ 1116 /4
3 1 9 9 Reggie Williams Jaguars Washington 40/ 429/4
4 1 13 13 Lee Evans Bills Wisconsin 67 /1016/ 5
5 1 15 15 Michael Clayton Buccaneers Louisiana State 33 /356/ 1
6 1 29 29 Michael Jenkins Falcons Ohio State 33 /371/6
7 1 31 31 Rashaun Woods 49ers Oklahoma State out of football
8 2 18 50 Devery Henderson Saints Louisiana State 28/ 654 /6
9 2 22 54 Darius Watts Broncos Marshall 0/0/0
10 2 30 62 Keary Colbert Panthers USC 5 /56 /0
15 4 9 105 Samie Parker Chiefs 35 /458 /1
30 7 15 216 Patrick Crayton Cowboys 31 /468 /3

2003
1 1 2 2 Charles Rogers Lions Michigan State Did Not Play all yr
2 1 3 3 Andre Johnson Texans Miami (FL) 92/ 1059 / 5
3 1 17 17 Bryant Johnson Cardinals Penn State 31/ 578 / 4
4 2 12 44 Taylor Jacobs Redskins Florida 1/ 5 /0
5 2 13 45 Bethel Johnson Patriots Texas A&M 6 /129 /0
6 2 22 54 Anquan Boldin Cardinals Florida State 70/ 967 / 4
7 2 28 60 Tyrone Calico Titans Middle Tennessee State 0 / 0/ 0
8 2 31 63 Teyo Johnson Raiders Stanford dnp cut
9 3 1 65 Kelley Washington Bengals Tennessee 9 /115 /1
10 3 7 71 Nate Burleson Vikings Nevada-Reno 15/ 175 /2

2002
1 1 13 13 Donte Stallworth Saints Tennessee 34/ 669 /5
2 1 19 19 Ashley Lelie Broncos Hawaii 23/ 373/0
3 1 20 20 Javon Walker Packers Florida State 57 /923 /6
4 2 1 33 Jabar Gaffney Texans Florida 6/ 101 /0
5 2 4 36 Josh Reed Bills Louisiana State 28/ 290 /1
6 2 14 46 Tim Carter Giants Auburn 15 | YDS 200 | TD 1
7 2 15 47 Andre Davis Browns Virginia Tech 1 /5 /0
8 2 16 48 Reche Caldwell Chargers Florida 47 /586 /3
9 2 30 62 Antwaan Randle El Steelers Indiana 28/ 284 /3
10 2 31 63 Antonio Bryant Cowboys Pittsburgh REC 38 | YDS 717 | TD 3
11 2 33 65 Deion Branch Patriots Louisville 41 /572/4


When I look at the wr the top selections don't nessarly fare that well in 2006 the bottom of the draft class have had larger impacts

Greg Jennings Packers Western Michigan 43/ 625/ 3td
Marques Colston Saints 59 /917 /7

In 2005 Reggie Brown Eagles Georgia has put up some pretty good numbers especially in comparison to the 1st round picks Troy Williamson Vikings and Mike Williams Lions USC .

The 2004 1st round class which has had its ups and downs looks to be quality at the very top with Fitzgerald and Roy Williams Lions but keep in mind that Roy has been hurt a lot in his career.

Michael Jenkins Falcons Ohio State has been a disappointment with the Falcons and we all know about Rashaun Woods 49ers Oklahoma State who is out of football.

All in all 1st round wr are huge gambles.
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Old 12-12-2006, 10:12 AM
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Yes, they are huge gambles...if we can find one that isn't high on anyone's draft boards - but is legit...I'm all for it.
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:03 AM
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what, no Stud or Dud designation...

when does Andre Johnson, Texans become available... have always liked that Stud... next year???
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Old 12-12-2006, 11:58 AM
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i think almost any player can be a gamble, the nfl is basically the only draft where a 7th round could end up being amazing, if ya look at the nhl u no who's gonna be good in the pro's, i dont follow nba enough to no about it. But i agree with WR is the most gamble out of all postions, i also think its the most hyped up position Pre-Draft.
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Old 12-12-2006, 02:09 PM
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I remember when everyone wanted us to draft Chad Jackson
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Old 12-13-2006, 09:37 AM
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you forgot reggie bush.
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Old 12-13-2006, 11:22 AM
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Larry Fitzgerald, Braylon Edwards, Andre Johnson, Roy Williams were amazing college players who dominated opponents and all had awesome physcial size and skills.

I would put Calvin Johnson in that category as a sure-fire lock to being a good/great NFL WR.
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:27 AM
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Your "hit or miss" comments can easily be applied to ANY position drafted in the first round (or any round for that matter). Many thought Gallery was a stud, instead he's a dud. On the other hand, many thought Big Mac's back history made him too much of a gamble. The Chargers rolled the dice in the 2nd round & got a stud. There are countless other examples.

I don't know if WR has been more of a crap-shoot than otehr positions in recent years, but this thread just goes to support AJ's approach to building the Chargers. Build thru the draft, don't trade away picks, take the best player available, don't reach for a player, etc.
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Old 12-14-2006, 11:41 AM
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you never know when yoU draft WR, CB they take a long time to acclimate rules and bumps and SPEED in NFL along with tackles you really hope in the draft... especially after round 1-2.... not to say you cant find colston...brady... so on but odds better in first 50 picks...
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Old 12-14-2006, 12:04 PM
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you never know when yoU draft WR, CB they take a long time to acclimate rules and bumps and SPEED in NFL along with tackles you really hope in the draft... especially after round 1-2.... not to say you cant find colston...brady... so on but odds better in first 50 picks...
What you say makes sense, but I wonder if it's really true. I think that Colston was a 7th round pick. I think that it's still pretty much a crap shoot. Sammy Davis anyone?

Many of the best QB's ever were not 1st rounders. It might be interesting if somebody could quantify the historical value realized by round in the player draft.
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