Stadium Proposals/Issues/News Thread

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by Raider Disliker

Along those lines, I note that the Golden State Warriors, tired of the Oracle Arena (formerly known as Oakland Coliseum Arena) are proposing to once again become the San Francisco Warriors, and to build an arena on a couple of piers in San Francisco AT PRIVATE EXPENSE. A basketball arena is a smaller building than a football stadium, but it won't be built for pocket change.

If the Warriors can get a stadium built in a city with virtually no land and ridiculous property value by filling parts of the bay all with private money, the Chargers should have no problems paying for their own stadium on already existing vacant land that won't require re-claiming. They're just being greedy about it. On the other hand, I'll be surprised if the Warriors do get back to SF. This city is broken government wise, but this is the payback for losing the Niners methinks.

[The Stig]

Originally Posted by Slinger61

Santa Clara will probably try to get the raiders to play there because the 49ers funding is going to come up about a half $billion short of the promises to the voters. That city is going to be screwed.

Niners really worked an excellent con-job on Santa Clara

That city is going to hate the deal when a formally well-off city from tech is riddled with potholes and school funding issues just like the rest of the state is because it all went to a new stadium.

[LordBling]

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city of San Diego owns about 1500 acres of undeveloped land with direct access to the 805, 163 and 52 freeways. Its the miramar landfill and its estimated to be full in just ten years. Imagine a huge new commercial development in that area, with the stadium as the centerpiece. The whole area would be a natural extension of the corporate developments in the UTC area. There are rail lines a mere 2000 feet to the north of the western edge of the property and a trolly extension already planned to UTC / UCSD so mass transit wouldn't be too astronomically expensive.

[WootMonkey]

Fabiani interview: http://wpc.31d2.edgecastcdn.net/8031...o/40/63082.mp3

[RandyC]

Originally Posted by LordBling

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned, but the city of San Diego owns about 1500 acres of undeveloped land with direct access to the 805, 163 and 52 freeways. Its the miramar landfill and its estimated to be full in just ten years. Imagine a huge new commercial development in that area, with the stadium as the centerpiece. The whole area would be a natural extension of the corporate developments in the UTC area. There are rail lines a mere 2000 feet to the north of the western edge of the property and a trolly extension already planned to UTC / UCSD so mass transit wouldn't be too astronomically expensive.

Great location, but not owned by the City. They have some sort of agreement to use the land for a landfill, but the actual land is owned by the Navy. I knew about a group trying to work a deal years ago... and the Navy said NO F'ing Way. They are protective of the land surrounding the base, as they should be.

[EastCountyKevin]

Originally Posted by The Stig

Niners really worked an excellent con-job on Santa Clara

That city is going to hate the deal when a formally well-off city from tech is riddled with potholes and school funding issues just like the rest of the state is because it all went to a new stadium.

isn't that ridiculas, two different cities teams playing in the same city/ stadium, but under different names then the city they are actually playing in They should just call the two teams the Santa Clara Raiders and 49ers or San Jose Raiders and 49ers since its right there too and at least a major city thats rapidly growing.

[HurricaneHugo]

Originally Posted by EastCountyKevin

isn't that ridiculas, two different cities teams playing in the same city/ stadium, but under different names then the city they are actually playing in They should just call the two teams the Santa Clara Raiders and 49ers or San Jose Raiders and 49ers since its right there too and at least a major city thats rapidly growing.

Pretty sure they're not taking the Raiders with them...

[JoeMcRugby]

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo

Pretty sure they're not taking the Raiders with them...

No decision has been made yet, but that will be left up to the City of Santa Clara (the entity that is financing the stadium), not the 49ers.

[charger1_sj]

Originally Posted by JoeMcRugby

No decision has been made yet, but that will be left up to the City of Santa Clara (the entity that is financing the stadium), not the 49ers.

Articles from the local papers up here seem to imply that the 49ers would have to OK the Raiders as tentants. Not much is being made public except that Santa Clara went after the $1B or so financing.

According to some articles the stadium is being designed to house two home teams, just in case. It makes perfectly good sense for the Raiders and Santa Clara, but I'm not so sure the 49ers would want them down here. Lots of corporate money laying around and I don't think the 49ers would be willing to share. Future South Bay fans are sure to be 49er fans unless the Raiders move in as well.

Timing seems to work for the Raiders as well and the Davis family and other Raider owners would not have to sell any shares. A move to LA or somewhere else may require giving up share equity, a move the Davis' won't like.

[JoeMcRugby]

Originally Posted by charger1_sj

Articles from the local papers up here seem to imply that the 49ers would have to OK the Raiders as tentants. Not much is being made public except that Santa Clara went after the $1B or so financing.

According to some articles the stadium is being designed to house two home teams, just in case. It makes perfectly good sense for the Raiders and Santa Clara, but I'm not so sure the 49ers would want them down here. Lots of corporate money laying around and I don't think the 49ers would be willing to share. Future South Bay fans are sure to be 49er fans unless the Raiders move in as well.

Timing seems to work for the Raiders as well and the Davis family and other Raider owners would not have to sell any shares. A move to LA or somewhere else may require giving up share equity, a move the Davis' won't like.

Unlike the Spanos family that owns 96% of Chargers' shares, Davis' ownership percentage was already far less even before Darth sold off shares over the last few years of his life to pay for the huge contracts that he was handing out like candy.

Making a move to LA would likely mean Davis becoming a minority owner - something that AEG would love but Davis would "not so love".