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View Poll Results: Line of Demarcation to Fire Norv Turner
Below .500, miss playoffs 59 0.27%
.500 or above, miss playoffs 89 0.40%
Make playoffs, go 0-1 in WC round 29 0.13%
Make playoffs, go 0-1 in Div. round 17 0.08%
Make playoffs, go 1-1 with loss in Div. round 11 0.05%
Lose in AFCCG 16 0.07%
Lose in SB 7 0.03%
Win SB 16 0.07%
Fire him now, season be damned! 171 0.77%
Never fire Norv, he's cuddly 21,663 98.12%
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:20 PM
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Old 04-12-2012, 11:25 PM
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AJ really does take candy from babies?


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Old 04-13-2012, 01:05 AM
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why hasn't this thread been merged yet?

selective merging i guess....

now that AJ and Norv don't get as much negativity, i guess that some threads can stay.

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Old 04-13-2012, 04:21 AM
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So many threads just end up as a rehash of previous thoughts.

If the main page can hold 12 threads:

1. Norv sucks
2. AJ sucks
3. Rivers sucks
4. Defense sucks more than offense
5. Offense sucks more than defense
6. Special teams still sucks
7. Mathews is not good enough to be a #1
8. Once again we got nothing for Brees, Turner, VJ
9. The team doctor sucks
10. We need OL depth 4 guys deep in case someone trips down stairs
11. We draft too many projects and unhealthy bums
12. The FAs that AJ DOES sign are all over the hill

And sooner than later... each and every thread... ends up as NORV is the reason for our failure.

Look around, people. We have had a terrible shortage of talent on defense. JJ and Atari 2600 have been upgrades. The draft should help. And a new coach should also.

And that doesn't mean that Norv is perfect. Everything and everyone have shortcomings- which is why it's a TEAM sport and why others need to know when and how to pick up some slack.

My thoughts on Norv is that he is wonderful at preparation during the week and he knows how to put our guys in position based on film, but he lacks the ability to make adjustments during the game that net solid results.

I remember the Giants comeback in their house a few years ago. It was either LT or Sproles who saw the glaring weakness and told Rivers what play to call. It wasn't Norv.

So while I wanted Norv gone, but wanted AJ gone even more, I also realize that not everything going on with this team is Norv's fault.





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Old 04-13-2012, 06:59 AM
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They shouldn't have to rally for their coaches job. That action alone says alot. Are we all mistaken? Who knows what really goes on behind closed doors.

Rivers and many other players have flourished under Norv, yet the team as a whole has clearly underachieved.

Boneheaded mental errors, poor choices of staff, slow starts, injuries (lack of preporation/conditioning?) lack luster drafts, poor timing of contracts and cap space, all lead to management.

Continuity was Spanos's buzz word all the while he makes changes left and right.
Though I wanted Norv gone, I actually like the fact that the players went to bat so hard for their coach. What it shows me is the fact that we have a lot of guys on this team who take accountability for their bad play. They do not make excuses and point the finger, they look in the mirror and know they can do better. We have a team, not a bunch of I guys.

The players do not blame Norv for their losing, they blame themselves. That right there is the only sign we need. Believe me when I tell you that had they thought it was Norv and he needed to go, they would have let him walk the plank.
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Though I wanted Norv gone, I actually like the fact that the players went to bat so hard for their coach. What it shows me is the fact that we have a lot of guys on this team who take accountability for their bad play. They do not make excuses and point the finger, they look in the mirror and know they can do better. We have a team, not a bunch of I guys.

The players do not blame Norv for their losing, they blame themselves. That right there is the only sign we need. Believe me when I tell you that had they thought it was Norv and he needed to go, they would have let him walk the plank.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:33 AM
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Though I wanted Norv gone, I actually like the fact that the players went to bat so hard for their coach. What it shows me is the fact that we have a lot of guys on this team who take accountability for their bad play. They do not make excuses and point the finger, they look in the mirror and know they can do better. We have a team, not a bunch of I guys.

The players do not blame Norv for their losing, they blame themselves. That right there is the only sign we need. Believe me when I tell you that had they thought it was Norv and he needed to go, they would have let him walk the plank.
i like your post and agree mostly, except with the bold part. players aren't management. they don't have any clue about what personnel moves would give them the best chance to win; that isn't their job and shouldn't be at all what they're thinking about.

and, serving as devil's advocate, maybe the players rallied behind norv because he's not that demanding a coach and never throws his players under the bus. just saying, there are several factors for a team to want to stick with a coach with winning being just one of them.

i say these things since, under norv more than ever, i keep seeing mental lapses to outright stupid decision-making which, as relatively constant as i perceive it, has to be attributed to lack of discipline and ultimately lack of cohesion.

i just don't and never have seen norv as a strong leader. our recent trend would do more to substantiate that theory than refute it.
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Old 04-13-2012, 10:35 AM
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