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Bolt4Life
09-27-2004, 09:40 PM
Personally, I like Breese and im gona try to go to a Boltz Practice and after the game encourage him, but if we MUST trade Breese, I say we try to get Seau back, and retire him a Bolt. The Dolphins have more of a QB problem then us i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif Just my thought....

mgpretzel
09-27-2004, 10:10 PM
1st of all brees is spelled b-r-e-e-s and yea get seau back i thought we should have traded david boston for seau. Seau is a charger it was just wrong when we lost him

CoopDeVille
09-27-2004, 10:14 PM
Yeah, Brees......

unless you are talking about a fifth QB that we picked up and we don't know yet....

HeadTrip
09-27-2004, 10:37 PM
That would be pretty damn cool, and i would imagine a pretty big emmotional boost. Who knows what good that could do for the team, to have one if its all time greats.

On the otherhand, logic says it would be much smarter to strengthen our Oline and/or receiving.

mgpretzel
09-27-2004, 10:43 PM
True, you have a point HeadTrip OL or WR is needed. but Seau just imagine how awsome that would be we would have a face to are D. we have no fire right now

CoopDeVille
09-27-2004, 10:48 PM
As much as it pains me to say this, Seau would give us the FINGER!!!

mgpretzel
09-27-2004, 10:51 PM
I wouldn't blame him all those years and JB just kicked him out and also getting rid of rodney dumb dumb dumb moves that killed us

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 12:33 AM
Seau is washed up. His glory days are over. Seau was not producing for the Bolts and his dances were embarassing when he was not even in the play. Junior is an arrogant POS. When he learns to stop referring to himself in the third person, maybe he can finally smell the coffee. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

mrintensity
09-28-2004, 12:50 AM
Seau was and is the Chargers, he stayed with a team that sucked for years and could have gone anywhere, but stayed. What did the Chargers do when he wanted to finish his career here? They gave him the boot. Total disrespect. Seau still has play in him he's just on a defense that reminds me of a Bolt team not that long ago. Junior has invested a lot in San Diego and still continues to do so. I would not blame him for not going into the Hall of Fame as a Charger but being the man he is he will. It is because of players like Seau and Harrison that got fans in those seats.
San Diego fans and the city owe Seau a lot. The man drug his battered body up and down that field when most men would have just gone on the injury list. We tend to forget the heroes of the day and concentrate on the heroes for the moment.

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 12:53 AM
When the player thinks he can usurp a coach - time for the player to go. Both he and Rodney were changing defensive schemes against the wishes of the coaches. They are not above the game and neither were producing. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

OverVolt
09-28-2004, 01:12 AM
Trumpet,
The fact is Lindsay was in way over his head, and Harrison and Seau both knew it. If I were to stand behind Brees changing half of Cameron's plays in the huddle, then I'd be with Harrrison and Seau trying to save our defense over some rookie D-coordinator who didn't have a clue. GOOD FOR THEM!!!!
Leaders on a team do just that...they lead. and you saw what happened when Harrison and Seau were let go. They know alot more about defense than Lindsay will ever know.
Hey Harrison is sure producing now...could it be Lindsay's schemes...naaaaa...

Eowawa
09-28-2004, 01:21 AM
I reallt think they should bring back Speedy Duncan....now there was a guy that could not only put people in the seats, but get them up out of them at least twice a game!

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 01:22 AM
Harrison is producing because he has talent around him NOW. Harrison had lost a step.

Seau lost a step and has no talent around him and that defense sucks.

Irrespective of Lindsays short comings, the inmates can not be in charge of the asylum. It should not even be a second thought. What the coach says ... goes. Period. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by: KennyG
Trumpet,

The fact is Lindsay was in way over his head, and Harrison and Seau both knew it. If I were to stand behind Brees changing half of Cameron's plays in the huddle, then I'd be with Harrrison and Seau trying to save our defense over some rookie D-coordinator who didn't have a clue. GOOD FOR THEM!!!!



See the stats for our defense the last two years Rodney and Junior played and stand up on a chair and say "good for them". I am sure you will be impressed at how our defense really shined....dude our defense sucked. Rodneys ring does not prove caca....nada other than he was surrounded by Super Bowl talent.

shocku
09-28-2004, 01:49 AM
Trumpet, I do agree with you that thier not in thier prime anymore but I do belive seau could still do as much as Godfrey.But besides that there's something much more greater than talent he brings to the table is his charge! his presence and moral just make other people play better around him.Heck if not for a player then for a L.B. coach.

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 02:02 AM
Originally posted by: shocku
Trumpet, I do agree with you that thier not in thier prime anymore but I do belive seau could still do as much as Godfrey.But besides that there's something much more greater than talent he brings to the table is his charge! his presence and moral just make other people play better around him.Heck if not for a player then for a L.B. coach.

Seau was done. He is a cheerleader. Don't get me wrong as he and I were both born in Oceanside and I have admired his career as a Bolt fan. He is the greatest linebacker to play for the Bolts. I have seen players at the end of their careers and Seau was done. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

shocku
09-28-2004, 02:03 AM
still would be nice to have him as a coach.regardless he belongs in S.D., I.m.o.

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 02:19 AM
Originally posted by: shocku
still would be nice to have him as a coach.regardless he belongs in S.D., I.m.o.


Give him a small contract so he retires a Charger is cool man don't get me wrong.But not as a player who will produce anything. It would have to be in a token capacity.

WHITELIGHTNING
09-28-2004, 06:53 AM
I wouldn't waste the roster spot for Seau, he is done, I've watched 2 fins games and other than the opening minutes of the game he is invisable. Undermining the DC is not a good thing to do, especially when you change the play and it doesn't work. Had Seau and Harrison guessed right they may have had a leg to stand on (pun intended).

DayOneBoltsFan
09-28-2004, 07:07 AM
I would go nuts if that happened! To bad Brees is playing worse then Fedler and Feeley.

shocku
09-28-2004, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by: DayOneBoltsFan
I would go nuts if that happened! To bad Brees is playing worse then Fedler and Feeley.


"Brees" playing worse than fedler and feely...lol our whole team is playing worse than those guy's.Brees can't catch his own pass and he can't block for himself either.

WHITELIGHTNING
09-28-2004, 12:01 PM
Originally posted by: shocku

Originally posted by: DayOneBoltsFan

I would go nuts if that happened! To bad Brees is playing worse then Fedler and Feeley.





"Brees" playing worse than fedler and feely...lol our whole team is playing worse than those guy's.Brees can't catch his own pass and he can't block for himself either.


Brees cant throw a pass anybody can catch.

Bolts4Life21
09-28-2004, 12:41 PM
Harrison wasn't an all-pro just because of the players around him. He was an all-pro here to so you know that doesn't matter. That's just atrocious to say that. Seau wasn't producing as well, but I don't know where you get off saying he has no talent around him in Miami. I think of Jason Taylor, Zach Thomas, Madison, Surtain. Where don't you see talent?

Thunderstruck
09-28-2004, 12:56 PM
I really don't want to see Seau back with the Bolts at this point. He was a solid LB with a lot of enthusiasm at one point, but those days are long gone. When it got to the point where offenses would actually attack his area of the field with the short-intermediate passing game, it became pretty obvious that Junior no longer could cover NFL tight ends--and everyone knew it.

We do miss the swagger that Seau and Harrison gave our defense. We need someone to bring back that bad-attitude, but I think bringing Seau in here at LB--our deepest position--would backfire.

edfrsd
09-28-2004, 01:16 PM
How about Chatman for Seau?

DayOneBoltsFan
09-28-2004, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by: edfrsd
How about Chatman for Seau?

Kill 2 birds with one stone then. Turner gets a chance to get carries and we get Seau back.

IgorUnchained
09-28-2004, 05:16 PM
Junior Seau is a washed up cheerleader? I would smack your mouth if I could reach it. That is, by far, the most retarted thing I have heard. I assume Trumpet is 14 years old and doesnt work for a living. 650 posts in the Chargers forum is obviously no indication of one's intelligence or love for a TEAM.
Junior is OLD and he is still a better linebacker than 90% of the other linebackers in the NFL. The last Dolphins game I watched (the first regular season game I think) he had the second most tackles on the team and was instrumental in stopping the run.
OF COURSE Junior and Rodney changed plays!! So does every quarterback in the NFL. With that kind of experience, and being the D captain, HE SHOULD BE CHANGING PLAYS!
I will end this by simply offering Trumpetdude a glass bellybutton, so that while his head is all cozy up there, he can look out and see what reality looks like.

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
Junior Seau is a washed up cheerleader? I would smack your mouth if I could reach it. That is, by far, the most retarted thing I have heard. I assume Trumpet is 14 years old and doesnt work for a living. 650 posts in the Chargers forum is obviously no indication of one's intelligence or love for a TEAM.

Junior is OLD and he is still a better linebacker than 90% of the other linebackers in the NFL. The last Dolphins game I watched (the first regular season game I think) he had the second most tackles on the team and was instrumental in stopping the run.

OF COURSE Junior and Rodney changed plays!! So does every quarterback in the NFL. With that kind of experience, and being the D captain, HE SHOULD BE CHANGING PLAYS!

I will end this by simply offering Trumpetdude a glass bellybutton, so that while his head is all cozy up there, he can look out and see what reality looks like.

I have been seeing the Bolts decades before Junior Seau hit the field. I have a pretty good grasp of when a player is NOT "Bringing it".

Junior is a washed up cheerleader is correct and I will stand by that statement. Junior Seau was not producing crap his last two year with the Bolts and neither was Rodney Harrison. - Surprise !!! I guess it is a surprise to those who do not watch the game or revel in trading cards as you assume. Btw...post counts don't mean squat and are really a sign of a narrow mind. Who really gives a rats a-s-@ how many posts you have ? I don't. Dude - get a grip and come correct. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

TrumpetDude
09-28-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
I would smack your mouth if I could reach it. That is, by far, the most retarted thing I have heard.

I am way easy to find hombre. Real easy to find. i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif i/expressions/SDG_Football.gif i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

HeadTrip
09-28-2004, 08:55 PM
You deserve to be smacked for talking sh*t about Rodney and Junior. If you cant figure out why then you deserve to be smacked twice.

Chargeroo
09-28-2004, 11:35 PM
IgorUnchained and HeadTrip Threatening people will get you banned - knock it off. It's pretty silly to threaten people you can't see and never will see anyway.

CoronaDoug
09-29-2004, 05:00 AM
I would trade Brees for a 40oz and a bucket of hot wings.i/expressions/beer.gif

DayOneBoltsFan
09-29-2004, 06:13 AM
Originally posted by: CoronaDoug
I would trade Brees for a 40oz and a bucket of hot wings.

I second that!

BIGRICK
09-29-2004, 08:06 PM
I do miss JR. and yes I agree he should be allowed to retire in S.D. but his days are really behind him. He will allways be known as the best in our household(Billy Ray also). But he is pretty much done. But we do owe him alot he relly did stick by us when he could have gotten the big money. But he cant come back and undermine the coach that is not being a true leader.
Oh yea I miss Rodney too!!!

HeadTrip
09-29-2004, 09:55 PM
I didnt threaten anyone. I stated my opinion and i stand by it. Dont talk sh*t about 2 of the teams all time greats on that teams message board. While he does deserve to be smacked for it, I did not say i was going to because obviously, that would be impossible.

TrumpetDude
09-29-2004, 10:03 PM
Originally posted by: HeadTrip
I didnt threaten anyone. I stated my opinion and i stand by it. Dont talk sh*t about 2 of the teams all time greats on that teams message board. While he does deserve to be smacked for it, I did not say i was going to because obviously, that would be impossible.

If you disagree with a take - no problems. If you start saying people are going to be "smacked" for posting an opinion, you will get worked. Obviously, you did not get the message. I sure did. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

HeadTrip
09-29-2004, 10:14 PM
Sigh....
You completly miss the point. I said you SHOULD get smacked. Not that you were going to. No reason for me to be "worked" for somthing I did not do huh chief?

TrumpetDude
09-30-2004, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by: HeadTrip

You deserve to be smacked for talking sh*t about Rodney and Junior. If you cant figure out why then you deserve to be smacked twice.

Then you post ....

Sigh....
You completly miss the point. I said you SHOULD get smacked. Not that you were going to. No reason for me to be "worked" for somthing I did not do huh chief?



Yea right - "chief". i/expressions/face-icon-small-disgusted.gif

WHITELIGHTNING
09-30-2004, 01:54 PM
Geesh, such hostility in here. Yeah Seau was a good LB, but I'd take a Harrison over a JR any day. I remember goingto the games when JR was in his prime, My brothers and I would shake our heads at how many plays that he would just miss, or gete sucked in on. Most great LB's dont miss the amount of plays JR did. I dont want him back and was glad to see him leave. Rodney was great, no doubt about it. I was pretty bumed out when they cut him loose, that dude could play some ball. I wish we had 2 of him in the secondary.

Dstorm2004
09-30-2004, 02:10 PM
That would be a sweet deal..

I would love to have seau back. It would be great. Beyond great. We have enough you speed and talent now to compensate a little for his age. He could lead the defense and teach the kiddie players we have.. and shove his foot up the behinds of some of them that need it. And he could get some Blitzing going..

Moreso...

I would like to see us trade Brees and a higher round pick for Seau and Marty Booker who they just got from Chicago.

That would be sweet and this team would be in *MUCH* better shape.

Dstorm2004
09-30-2004, 02:14 PM
Originally posted by: WHITELIGHTNING
Geesh, such hostility in here. Yeah Seau was a good LB, but I'd take a Harrison over a JR any day. I remember goingto the games when JR was in his prime, My brothers and I would shake our heads at how many plays that he would just miss, or gete sucked in on. Most great LB's dont miss the amount of plays JR did. I dont want him back and was glad to see him leave. Rodney was great, no doubt about it. I was pretty bumed out when they cut him loose, that dude could play some ball. I wish we had 2 of him in the secondary.

thats because you dont understand at all the ROLE on defense he played. The guy went to 12 pobowls for a reason. He brings a whole lot more to the table than making every play just the way YOU want him to.

Seau is a Timed Blitz and Timed Run stop specialist. Not a general purpose linebacker.

This and many other posts i read here have me convinced that some people are just to Clueless to be allowed to have an opinion. What good is it to have an "opinion" if its based on a bunch of total Nonsense or on someone who does not actually UNDERSTAND the game of football and the various positions?

Answer it just serves to irritate the heck out of the people that do understand the game.

Dstorm2004
09-30-2004, 02:17 PM
Originally posted by: TrumpetDude

Originally posted by: HeadTrip

I didnt threaten anyone. I stated my opinion and i stand by it. Dont talk sh*t about 2 of the teams all time greats on that teams message board. While he does deserve to be smacked for it, I did not say i was going to because obviously, that would be impossible.



If you disagree with a take - no problems. If you start saying people are going to be "smacked" for posting an opinion, you will get worked. Obviously, you did not get the message. I sure did.
And you people need to lighten up.. this polotical correct crap is iritating.,..

SO FREAKING what if someone says that you need to get Smacked.. Or whatever.. We all freaking know that its just a figure of speach.

Good grief..

WHITELIGHTNING
09-30-2004, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by: Dstorm2004

Originally posted by: WHITELIGHTNING

Geesh, such hostility in here. Yeah Seau was a good LB, but I'd take a Harrison over a JR any day. I remember goingto the games when JR was in his prime, My brothers and I would shake our heads at how many plays that he would just miss, or gete sucked in on. Most great LB's dont miss the amount of plays JR did. I dont want him back and was glad to see him leave. Rodney was great, no doubt about it. I was pretty bumed out when they cut him loose, that dude could play some ball. I wish we had 2 of him in the secondary.



thats because you dont understand at all the ROLE on defense he played. The guy went to 12 pobowls for a reason. He brings a whole lot more to the table than making every play just the way YOU want him to.



Seau is a Timed Blitz and Timed Run stop specialist. Not a general purpose linebacker.



This and many other posts i read here have me convinced that some people are just to Clueless to be allowed to have an opinion. What good is it to have an "opinion" if its based on a bunch of total Nonsense or on someone who does not actually UNDERSTAND the game of football and the various positions?



Answer it just serves to irritate the heck out of the people that do understand the game.

JR, I didnt know you read the Charger forums, Im sorry that you could play between the 20's like a demon, but in crunch time you went invisable. Your right Im not a professional LB coach, but I have watched many LB's play that I would take any day over you.

TrumpetDude
09-30-2004, 02:35 PM
Seau's ROLE was about Seau toward the end. That is a problem. When Seau learns to refer to himself not in the third person maybe he will understand why "some" not all fans take exception to his conduct. It certainly affected his personal life but NFL players get a certain diplomatic immunity and Seau was no exception being the darling of San Diego. This is not about bashing as the dude "brought it" and hopefully retires a Charger. I do take strong exception to issues the media rather keep swept under the proverbial rug. 'Nuff said as it happens all the time with star athletes. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

Dstorm2004
09-30-2004, 04:09 PM
Originally posted by: WHITELIGHTNING

Originally posted by: Dstorm2004


Originally posted by: WHITELIGHTNING



Geesh, such hostility in here. Yeah Seau was a good LB, but I'd take a Harrison over a JR any day. I remember goingto the games when JR was in his prime, My brothers and I would shake our heads at how many plays that he would just miss, or gete sucked in on. Most great LB's dont miss the amount of plays JR did. I dont want him back and was glad to see him leave. Rodney was great, no doubt about it. I was pretty bumed out when they cut him loose, that dude could play some ball. I wish we had 2 of him in the secondary.







thats because you dont understand at all the ROLE on defense he played. The guy went to 12 pobowls for a reason. He brings a whole lot more to the table than making every play just the way YOU want him to.







Seau is a Timed Blitz and Timed Run stop specialist. Not a general purpose linebacker.







This and many other posts i read here have me convinced that some people are just to Clueless to be allowed to have an opinion. What good is it to have an "opinion" if its based on a bunch of total Nonsense or on someone who does not actually UNDERSTAND the game of football and the various positions?







Answer it just serves to irritate the heck out of the people that do understand the game.



JR, I didnt know you read the Charger forums, Im sorry that you could play between the 20's like a demon, but in crunch time you went invisable. Your right Im not a professional LB coach, but I have watched many LB's play that I would take any day over you.

The point is....

Seau would play a specific Role that we really need right now on defense. He is the best in the NFL at Guessing the Snap and getting in there. Yes this does cause him to be vulnerable in some other areas. But in a 3-4 you really need excellent SPECIALISTS. One of which is a Timed Blitz linebacker.

TrumpetDude
09-30-2004, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by: Dstorm2004

Seau is a Timed Blitz and Timed Run stop specialist. Not a general purpose linebacker.

Seau would play a specific Role that we really need right now on defense. He is the best in the NFL at Guessing the Snap and getting in there.

I do not agree with this take. Seau "timed blitzes" up the middle of the Chargers defenses at the end of career produced nothing. Seau often jumped offsides and never made penetration.

This is one issue where I guess we have to disagree to disagree. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

Bolt4Life
09-30-2004, 10:06 PM
Hey TrumpetDude, I want Seau because he was a Charger for so long, and I just think he should retire a Charger, even if he isn't in his luster anymore

HeadTrip
09-30-2004, 10:08 PM
Who can really blame Jr and Rodney for taking over the D in their last years when the D coordinator wasnt producing. Would you be p*ssed if LT changed some plays because of Cam's ineptitude?

Chargeroo
09-30-2004, 10:39 PM
Trumpie - think about this. You and I have seen some great Charger teams, and a bunch of great Charger players. Poor little Bolt4Life is only fourteen, he's never seen them when they were a good team. He's only seen about 3/4 players in Blue and Gold that were great players. Come to think of it, how does a 14 year old become a Bolt fan? Must have been brainwashed by his Dad. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

TrumpetDude
09-30-2004, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by: Bolt4Life
Hey TrumpetDude, I want Seau because he was a Charger for so long, and I just think he should retire a Charger, even if he isn't in his luster anymore

Dude, you are right.he should. Greatest LB ever for the Bolts. Mr. Charger. It would be nice and maybe the Spanos family can accomodate him in an honorary fashion. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

TrumpetDude
09-30-2004, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by: Chargeroo
Trumpie - think about this. You and I have seen some great Charger teams, and a bunch of great Charger players. Poor little Bolt4Life is only fourteen, he's never seen them when they were a good team. He's only seen about 3/4 players in Blue and Gold that were great players. Come to think of it, how does a 14 year old become a Bolt fan? Must have been brainwashed by his Dad.

At 14 years old is all Seau time as his Chargers indoctrination and dad. You have a point and so does the Bolt4Life. I saw his sig and it really never registered as "hey man - dude is 14". i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif The Bolts should do an honorary retirement contract when appropriate. That would be a tremendous gesture from the organization. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

Chargeroo
09-30-2004, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by: TrumpetDude

The Bolts should do an honorary retirement contract when appropriate. That would be a tremendous gesture from the organization.
Yes, they sure should. When he retires the Dolphins should release him and let him sign with the Chargers so he can then retire as a Charger. He's the best defensive player we ever had. He's gone downhill a lot but go back to the late nineties and he was a good as they come. Too bad he didn't sign with the Pats like Rodney did.
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WHITELIGHTNING
10-01-2004, 02:58 PM
I dont think the Spanos's will do anything for JR especiallyif it's going to cost them money. I believe there is bad blood between them so something big time must have gone down.

Bobo
10-01-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by: Bolt4Life
Personally, I like Breese and im gona try to go to a Boltz Practice and after the game encourage him, but if we MUST trade Breese, I say we try to get Seau back, and retire him a Bolt. The Dolphins have more of a QB problem then us Just my thought....

Why the f*** not? Brees is a lame-duck & we aren't gonna get much for him anyway, so why not bring Seau back. At the very least, he'll bring passion & a kick-a$$ work ethic to our team.

WHITELIGHTNING
10-02-2004, 09:05 AM
Just leave JR alone, that would be a waste of a roster spot. After he retires, maybe something can be done but i dont want to see hin disrupt this team.

buzzsaw
10-04-2004, 01:52 PM
I'm shocked. How can you be a Chargers fan and badmouth Junior Seau. He personifies what the Chargers should stand for. And to say he's washed up? He starts for one of the best defenses in the league. Miami is not losing because of its defense you brain dead morons. Trading Harrison and Seau was a major disaster. Leadership, Leadership, Leadership. How many games were lost last year in the fourth quarter after having the lead?

TrumpetDude
10-04-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by: buzzsaw
How many games were lost last year in the fourth quarter after having the lead?

We lost those same game with them at the end of their tenure here. Why do we forget our defense was horrendous. Dale Lindsay accounted for a large part of this - granted.

Junior was finished. That does not make me a bad fan. It is an opinion I have felt for the last few years as a Charger fan. Harrison gets his Super Bowl rock because of the talent around him. Rodney alone did not take the Patriots to the Super Bowl. They already had talent.

That does not diminsh the fact Junior was the greatest Charger linebacker ever and one of the top in NFL history. Rodney Harrison can still lay the wood but was a target for the NFL officials for continual fines and suspensions. Time for a change. It is not easy and I did not like it but I have accepted the course the team had set for getting faster and younger. The defense is on the rise and is stopping the run dead. The LB's are a talented a deep and younger group now with veteran influence (D. Edwards etc). I am hopng the kid named Clinton Hart can bring it to the FS position. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

Thunderstruck
10-04-2004, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by: buzzsaw
How many games were lost last year in the fourth quarter after having the lead?

Lordy, for a LONG time the Chargers were the worst team I've ever SEEN when it came to holding a fourth-quarter lead--and that was WITH Seau and Harrison. No lead was ever safe. Yesterday's game would almost surely have been a come-from-behind victory for the Titans back then...I was almost stunned that the Bolts actually increased their lead in the 4th quarter--that's how traumatized I still am by those 4th-quarter meltdowns.

Kwakothunder
10-04-2004, 04:41 PM
What made Junior good as a frelancer was that he had the speed to recover and still make the play. The last 2 years he was here, he had lost that extra step that allowed him to recover and all that freelancing did was take him out of the play. That 3rd person thing has got to stop. Are athletes so stupid that they don't realize that when they talk in 3rd person about themseleves that they sound like morons? I think it was Ricky (the other ricky, not mr blunt) started that or was it some other moron?

Now Rodney needed to dial it back a notch. He had way too many unnecessary personal foul penalties. Taking a guys head off over the middle is one thing, whacking someone well out of bounds is just stupid.

After Fouts, Junior and Rodney are my favorite players and I would love to see them both retire as chargers, but the bad blood may not allow that to happen.

IgorUnchained
10-04-2004, 07:15 PM
I thought they deleted this thread.
Trumpetdude - I should have said that I was shaking my head and saying Tsk Tsk to your comments other than painting the mental picture of a man in Montana inflicting metaphoric violence in a cartoonish manner at a man in California. I mean you no personal harm or any ill will -- and if the FBI is reading this, I love George Bush!!
No with all politically correct nicities out of the way, I think that Rodney and Junior are both valuable role players in their defenses. Neither of them are in or have been in a defense that struggled as much as the Chargers have in the past few years. Seau wouldnt have been as effective as he was when he was 25 -- and he wouldnt have made as big a difference physically playing defense for the Chargers last year as he did with the Dolphins D which is stacked with great players.
My whole point is that at the Temple of Chargers -- Rodney and Junior are saints to be revered. If you want to bad mouth these heroes of the blue and gold, well then fiddle dee dee and Jimminy Christmas! sorry to the moderator for the hate speech at the end there. And by the way, notice the comfy relationship between the Mod and Trumpet, and then see how quickly Headtrip and I were reprimanded for our inner child damaging negativity. Maybe your post count doesnt determine your standing here, but I would have you remember back to the first time you posted a question that had already been posted and got "flamed" into next week. Did the Moderator come to your aid?
Is that, or should that be, as wrong as suggesting that the best Charger of the past 20 years is nothing more that a washed up cheerleader, who is worthless after "missing a step"?? Thankfully these judgements are not ours to make.
Four legs good -- Two legs baaaaad

BreesLightning
10-04-2004, 10:56 PM
I would go nuts if that happened! To bad Brees is playing worse then Fedler and Feeley.

Keep smoking that ganja ....

TrumpetDude
10-04-2004, 11:05 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
Thankfully these judgements are not ours to make.


It would seem the grassy knoll theory is alive and well with some. Oh well. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

IgorUnchained
10-05-2004, 06:44 PM
It seems like some people will stick to any principle, even when science and logic go against their beliefs.
Watch the Zapruder film and notice the "back and to the left" motion that Kennedys head makes when shot. Notice Jackie O climb on the trunk of the moving car and grab a piece of the BACK of JFKs skull. Notice in autopsy photos that the back of JFKs head is blown off and his face is intact....
Then tell me that a single shooter from an awkward position fired 3 shots at a moving target-- was able to make a head shot , and when the bullet entered the back of JFKs head it made a big hole, and when it exited it left a little hole. That sounds logical considering Oswald "shot JFK" with a high powered rifle from behind.
Not only do I subscribe to wild conspiracy theories, I also have many crazy facts to back them up... Im sure all of it would be more pertinant if I had 1000 posts like you.


Oh Yeah... GO Bolts

TrumpetDude
10-05-2004, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
.. Im sure all of it would be more pertinant if I had 1000 posts like you.

Oh Yeah... GO Bolts

Post counts matter not but to those who put merit in those inane numbers. I guess that is what matter to some not all. Go Chargers i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

geekster
10-05-2004, 06:56 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
It seems like some people will stick to any principle, even when science and logic go against their beliefs.
Watch the Zapruder film and notice the "back and to the left" motion that Kennedys head makes when shot. Notice Jackie O climb on the trunk of the moving car and grab a piece of the BACK of JFKs skull. Notice in autopsy photos that the back of JFKs head is blown off and his face is intact....
Then tell me that a single shooter from an awkward position fired 3 shots at a moving target-- was able to make a head shot , and when the bullet entered the back of JFKs head it made a big hole, and when it exited it left a little hole. That sounds logical considering Oswald "shot JFK" with a high powered rifle from behind.
Not only do I subscribe to wild conspiracy theories, I also have many crazy facts to back them up... Im sure all of it would be more pertinant if I had 1000 posts like you.
Oh Yeah... GO Bolts
Think ya missed the point Bro. Pretty sure Trumpy was referring to the other kind of "grass"... i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif

TrumpetDude
10-05-2004, 07:08 PM
I had stated Junior was the greatest LB but at the end of his career, he no more than a washed up cheerleader. That phrase gets threaded into non-sense.

I guess that puts a burr under "some" fan saddles. The same things were being said when it was time to see Fouts leave. Most fans were in denial. Same thing with Muncie, Chandler, Joiner man it was time. Junior and his 3rd person act is just so over the top, he does not realize the arrogance. Fans don't like to hear this - well - deal with it. If Junior and Rodney were attempting to run the asylum and if they were indeed attempting to usurp the DC - adios amigo. That is a no-brainer. i/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

Chargeroo
10-05-2004, 07:19 PM
IgorUnchained, what brought this on? -

"And by the way, notice the comfy relationship between the Mod and Trumpet, and then see how quickly Headtrip and I were reprimanded for our inner child damaging negativity"
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If you had it in your head that Trumpetdude and I are some sort of old friends, you're way wrong. I believe I've sent two "warning" type of notes to Trumpie and one to you. I really resent this assumption of yours. I'm just trying to keep it peaceful in here and I'll step on your toes or Trumpet toes when the need arises.

I always laugh at the people who get a warning and send me back a note saying so and so should have been warned also - like they know who else I've warned. Perhaps you were thinking that this little remark would would make you and I buddies? Sad to tell you that's not the case.

TrumpetDude
10-05-2004, 07:44 PM
Igor -

Post counts do not provide diplomatic immunity from the moderators and I did receive a nasty gram from the mods. My big toe was squashed under Roo's rocking chair or sledge hammer.

Peace dude. We are all on the same team man. There are very different ideas and backgrounds in the forum which makes it a place to think about a take. Sometimes I just post what is in the heart instead of the politically correct thing to say and I have been called out on this a few times. I try not to rock the boat too hard but thought tee'd up and unadulterated makes these places rock man.

Stop by a tailgater and rap with the Bolt brothers on our team. We do not all agree at our tailgaters on this team but we still all get along !!!! Go Chargers !!!! i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gifi/expressions/face-icon-small-cool.gifi/expressions/beer.gifi/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

IgorUnchained
10-05-2004, 07:45 PM
I came here to talk to Chargers fans about Chargers games... I WAS WRONG to say that I would slap Trumpet in the mouth, especially since my sarcastic tone doesnt come out in type. I have since appologized to Trumpet and shown that I could express the same sentiment without such strong language-- Case Closed.
In that particular case, your reprimand came right after his "equally goodnatured" response back to me. If you scroll up you will see the same phenomenon, once again...Im Oliver Stone over here.
Im sure this is coincidence, but since this thread is so old and isnt on the main page, and since this thread has not had alot to do with trading quarterbacks, I would assume that the coincidence is a big one.
You jumped me for a very minor thing, and afterwards I appologized- what else do you want here?
Now we arent friends? Considering you never attempted to contact me, you dont know my name, I dont know your favorite color, etc.. I never really considered you my friend, so while I am not surprised by the statement, the spirit in which it was said is interesting. You are a moderator... as in to moderate!?!
How you justify making this a personal matter, with your obvious position of power, and still make the arguments you have... I will never understand.
Im sure that since now 1) you are a moderator and 2) we are no longer on each others Christmas Card List-- I should expect a higher chance of your retalliation than I could ever give you? If any of the other Mods get to see this, please check out all 100 of my posts... check them for intelligence, opinion, importance, and negativity--- if after YOU have judged me to be worse than anyone else-- Please inform me of your decision to boot me-- if not, I would appreciate the next posts directed at me to be more Charger related. Thank You

BTW- I never PMed Chargeroo to suggest anyone else be warned, I dont know what that statement had to do with me.

Trumpet-- Man, if I could meet you in real life I would give you a foot rub and cook you dinner-- Im not kidding (or that way) -- i love football but I dont get so into it that I would intentionally threaten another person on a football forum with violence-- Peace Man -- I NEVER intended this to happen from my remark.

AgentGarcia
10-05-2004, 07:51 PM
FOR THE RECORD SEAU SAID HE WOULD NEVER COME BACK AS AN ACTIVE PLAYER

geekster
10-05-2004, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by: AgentGarcia
FOR THE RECORD SEAU SAID HE WOULD NEVER COME BACK AS AN ACTIVE PLAYER

Dang Agent - do ya have to shout? i/expressions/face-icon-small-wink.gif Recommend getting off the all caps key until you get REAL excited and want to make a point. i/expressions/face-icon-small-smile.gif

TrumpetDude
10-05-2004, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
Trumpet-- Man, if I could meet you in real life I would give you a foot rub and cook you dinner-- Im not kidding (or that way) -- i love football but I dont get so into it that I would intentionally threaten another person on a football forum with violence-- Peace Man -- I NEVER intended this to happen from my remark.

I have never reported a post either dude. No worries man. There was not much really to it and just an exchange of dissenting ideas.

We are tight.

I would not patronize the mods bro. Just a suggestion. I do not know the moderators other than the warnings I have received. It bites to get to know a mod this way but it is a fact. Oppps. Oh well. You have killer posts dude. Keep them coming as I have read them all. Chargers fans rock. i/expressions/beer.gifi/expressions/SDG_Bolt.gif

geekster
10-05-2004, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by: TrumpetDude

Originally posted by: IgorUnchained
Trumpet-- Man, if I could meet you in real life I would give you a foot rub and cook you dinner-- Im not kidding (or that way) -- i love football but I dont get so into it that I would intentionally threaten another person on a football forum with violence-- Peace Man -- I NEVER intended this to happen from my remark.
I have never reported a post either dude. No worries man. There was not much really to it and just an exchange of dissenting ideas.
We are tight.
I would not patronize the mods bro. Just a suggestion. I do not know the moderators other than the warnings I have received. It bites to get to know a mod this way but it is a fact. Oppps. Oh well. You have killer posts dude. Keep them coming as I have read them all. Chargers fans rock.
Yeah - lets all try to be respectful of the Mods - they are doing a pretty good job - and an old curmudgeon like me got a couple of private posts early on too. I don't envy them when, after we win a string of games, all the old bandwagon jumpers leap in here talking smack that doesn't make any sense, etc., etc. - that is going to be hard to deal with for mods and users/regulars.

sandyk
10-05-2004, 09:13 PM
Hey this is Charger nation, not raider nation. I miss all the players but we can only have 53. Anyone go to the game against the Titans?

sandyk
10-05-2004, 09:18 PM
I went to the game. It was good to see Drew hitting the targets. And not dropping the ball. Lets just copy that game and do for the rest of the season.

Chargeroo
10-05-2004, 09:23 PM
Back to you Igor -
BTW- I never PMed Chargeroo to suggest anyone else be warned, I dont know what that statement had to do with me.
Read again I didn't say you did that, although your assumption that Trumpet Dude and I are somehow old friends and I'm picking on you and letting him slide certainly smacks of the same type of thing.

You jumped me for a very minor thing, and afterwards I appologized- what else do you want here?
I didn't want anything else here. I thought this was a done deal until I read the remark that you made. I do not agree that what you were jumped on for in the first place - offering to smack someone in the mouth - is at all minor. It's very definately wrong. I bet if someone else said that to you, you never would have said it's minor.

comfy relationship between the Mod and Trumpet, There it is again, in case you forgot what you said.

Look Igor, the number of posts isn't at all important in how I'll treat posters in here, it's what they say. If someone with thousands of posts offers to smack a brand new poster in the mouth, I'm going to step in when I see it. You're reading me wrong. If you stick to "Charger related" subjects and stay decent when you disagree with others, you and will be just fine.

rule12b
10-06-2004, 11:46 AM
Wow! I'm almost amazed one of my smack threads hasn't drawn the ire of moderator. That has to be a difficult jobaroo for sure. We should re-title this thread "No mouth-smacking, only smack attacks that's shacked in the smack shack"? Igor and trumpie have a wealth of quality inspired posts, my guess is the Titans fans were too darn polite for us to find a proper vent for the smack that resides in all of us as gameday approaches. . .

Chargeroo, keep us focused baby! Jaguars suck!