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sd21run
10-18-2004, 10:32 PM
The only QB's rated higher than Brees are
Culpepper, Manning, McNab, & Rothlisberger. That's right,
Drew "MyFansWantMeOutOfTown" Brees is ranked 5th.
After comparing some stats I found that not only is Drew
the best QB in the AFC West at this point (see below), but he's
also out-ranking names such as Tom Brady, Brett Favre,
Steve McNair, Michael Vick, and the rest of the NFL with
the exception of the top 4. He also has thrown the least amount
of INT's amoung the list below.

Brees SD 64% 9td 3int
Brady NE 59% 10td 5int
Favre GB 62% 11td 6int
Plummer Den 58% 10td 5int
Collins Oak 57% 2td 8int
Green KC 61% 6td 4int
Hasselbeck Sea 58% 6td 4int
Vick Atl 59% 4td 4int
McNair Ten 57% 4td 6int
Palmer Cin 55% 4td 8int
Delhomme Car 59% 7td 9int

So I guess I have to agree with all the other Charger fans
(so I don't get accused of being unpatriotic):
Sign Cleo Lemon because hell "he's got a ton of upside!"
Sign 42 year old Flutie, after all his career is just starting
And for God's Sake get Drew Brees the hell out of SD!!!!!!!!!

p.s. Drew Brees has no upside nor does he have any potential?
If money is what you're worried about, rest assured the Chargers are pro's at getting value out of their players before it's too late...just look at what we got for Jr. Seau, Rodney Harrison, David Boston, and John Carney...I'm still looking.

TrumpetDude
10-18-2004, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by: sd21run
The only QB's rated higher than Brees are

Culpepper, Manning, McNab, & Rothlisberger. That's right,

Drew "MyFansWantMeOutOfTown" Brees is ranked 5th.

After comparing some stats I found that not only is Drew

the best QB in the AFC West at this point (see below), but he's

also out-ranking names such as Tom Brady, Brett Favre,

Steve McNair, Michael Vick, and the rest of the NFL with

the exception of the top 4. He also has thrown the least amount

of INT's amoung the list below.



Brees SD 64% 9td 3int

Brady NE 59% 10td 5int

Favre GB 62% 11td 6int

Plummer Den 58% 10td 5int

Collins Oak 57% 2td 8int

Green KC 61% 6td 4int

Hasselbeck Sea 58% 6td 4int

Vick Atl 59% 4td 4int

McNair Ten 57% 4td 6int

Palmer Cin 55% 4td 8int

Delhomme Car 59% 7td 9int



So I guess I have to agree with all the other Charger fans

(so I don't get accused of being unpatriotic):

Sign Cleo Lemon because hell "he's got a ton of upside!"

Sign 42 year old Flutie, after all his career is just starting

And for God's Sake get Drew Brees the hell out of SD!!!!!!!!!



p.s. Drew Brees has no upside nor does he have any potential?

If money is what you're worried about, rest assured the Chargers are pro's at getting value out of their players before it's too late...just look at what we got for Jr. Seau, Rodney Harrison, David Boston, and John Carney...I'm still looking.

Wow ... we should get Ft. Knox for a Brees trade !!

Thunderstruck
10-18-2004, 11:14 PM
Yes, but after the "we-hate-Brees" club runs your post through the gauntlet of rigid logical scrutiny, and subjects the data you have offered to a complete dissection via hasty generalizations, unrepresentative samples, and slothful induction, they will inevitably be left with one and only one shield of illogic; a proposition at once flawed and incontrovertable in its heretofore unproven simplicity: That Philip Rivers will undoubtably have immediate success in the NFL, because Ben Roethlesburger is doing well for a rookie.

Johndbr
10-19-2004, 12:11 AM
Well your stats are really misleading, but not to the worse side, Brees should be higher. At least 3 of those QBs are riding their schedule. When they start going up against the better Ds in the league, I think you will see at least 2 drop out.

John B.

Shamrock
10-19-2004, 01:25 AM
Originally posted by: Thunderstruck
Yes, but after the "we-hate-Brees" club runs your post through the gauntlet of rigid logical scrutiny, and subjects the data you have offered to a complete dissection via hasty generalizations, unrepresentative samples, and slothful induction, they will inevitably be left with one and only one shield of illogic; a proposition at once flawed and incontrovertable in its heretofore unproven simplicity: That Philip Rivers will undoubtably have immediate success in the NFL, because Ben Roethlesburger is doing well for a rookie.

Don't suppress highly refined anecdotal evidence that supports the hypothesis.

tmvalence4
10-19-2004, 09:13 AM
Originally posted by: sd21run
The only QB's rated higher than Brees are

Culpepper, Manning, McNab, & Rothlisberger. That's right,

Drew "MyFansWantMeOutOfTown" Brees is ranked 5th.

After comparing some stats I found that not only is Drew

the best QB in the AFC West at this point (see below), but he's

also out-ranking names such as Tom Brady, Brett Favre,

Steve McNair, Michael Vick, and the rest of the NFL with

the exception of the top 4. He also has thrown the least amount

of INT's amoung the list below.



Brees SD 64% 9td 3int

Brady NE 59% 10td 5int

Favre GB 62% 11td 6int

Plummer Den 58% 10td 5int

Collins Oak 57% 2td 8int

Green KC 61% 6td 4int

Hasselbeck Sea 58% 6td 4int

Vick Atl 59% 4td 4int

McNair Ten 57% 4td 6int

Palmer Cin 55% 4td 8int

Delhomme Car 59% 7td 9int



So I guess I have to agree with all the other Charger fans

(so I don't get accused of being unpatriotic):

Sign Cleo Lemon because hell "he's got a ton of upside!"

Sign 42 year old Flutie, after all his career is just starting

And for God's Sake get Drew Brees the hell out of SD!!!!!!!!!



p.s. Drew Brees has no upside nor does he have any potential?

If money is what you're worried about, rest assured the Chargers are pro's at getting value out of their players before it's too late...just look at what we got for Jr. Seau, Rodney Harrison, David Boston, and John Carney...I'm still looking. You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!

dgjock
10-19-2004, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by: tmvalence4
You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!

You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me.

minion
10-19-2004, 09:29 AM
ya dude seriously your not fooling anyone

SDRaiderH8er
10-19-2004, 01:12 PM
And those stats are from this Year, and if we take his whole Career Stats,


where does he place now?

Chargeroo
10-19-2004, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by: dgjock

Originally posted by: tmvalence4
You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!
You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me.

Hey, he's just having fun. Laugh with him and you can have fun too!

dgjock
10-20-2004, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by: Chargeroo

Originally posted by: dgjock


Originally posted by: tmvalence4

You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!

You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me.



Hey, he's just having fun. Laugh with him and you can have fun too!

well, I'm trying. I just thought his act might tick one or two rivers fans

Critter
10-20-2004, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by: sd21run

Brees SD 64% 9td 3int

Brady NE 59% 10td 5int

Favre GB 62% 11td 6int

Plummer Den 58% 10td 5int

Collins Oak 57% 2td 8int

Green KC 61% 6td 4int

Hasselbeck Sea 58% 6td 4int

Vick Atl 59% 4td 4int

McNair Ten 57% 4td 6int

Palmer Cin 55% 4td 8int

Delhomme Car 59% 7td 9int


I would take every one of those QB's over Drew with the exception of Collins.

tmvalence4
10-20-2004, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by: dgjock

Originally posted by: tmvalence4

You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!



You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me. CHILL OUT !!! IM JUST PLAYING ... WHATS WRONG with you??? YOUR just looking for a good fight HUH!! IM trying to have fun and make light of some things !!! HOWS THIS,your a FOOL,you have NO sense of humor because youcan't get ANY!!!!!

JUST PLAYING!!! I got bored with chipping with evarone over the same things soooooooooooo, can I still play??? Wheres Keenan??

geekster
10-20-2004, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by: tmvalence4

You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me. CHILL OUT !!! IM JUST PLAYING ... WHATS WRONG with you??? YOUR just looking for a good fight HUH!! IM trying to have fun and make light of some things !!! HOWS THIS,your a FOOL,you have NO sense of humor because youcan't get ANY!!!!!

JUST PLAYING!!! I got bored with chipping with evarone over the same things soooooooooooo, can I still play??? Wheres Keenan??[/quote]
OK - humor is one thing - but that post is pretty well over the line - even after you edited it. Tone it down a notch OK?

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Let's keep it cool and play nice - I suggest talking some football. If the posts in the Quarterback Talk forum upset you - don't read them - its that easy.

dgjock
10-20-2004, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by: geekster

Originally posted by: tmvalence4
You "being Brees" antics is starting to annoy me. CHILL OUT !!! IM JUST PLAYING ... WHATS WRONG with you??? YOUR just looking for a good fight HUH!! IM trying to have fun and make light of some things !!! HOWS THIS,your a FOOL,you have NO sense of humor because youcan't get ANY!!!!!

JUST PLAYING!!! I got bored with chipping with evarone over the same things soooooooooooo, can I still play??? Wheres Keenan??

OK - humor is one thing - but that post is pretty well over the line - even after you edited it. Tone it down a notch OK?

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Let's keep it cool and play nice - I suggest talking some football. If the posts in the Quarterback Talk forum upset you - don't read them - its that easy.[/quote]

no offense taken. I'm just going to ignore it.

cap808
10-20-2004, 03:08 PM
So many of his issues were because of Personnel around him... How many dropped-balls? O-line? etc... Brees gets it. He just can't do it alone.

HellsBells
10-20-2004, 07:43 PM
Also, how many of those picks were actually his fault? Well, I remember one of them was a pass to Gates (against the Jet I think) and It wasn't his fault. I can't remember the ATL one too recently but the point is he is better than his stats show. And thats a good thing because his stats are great.

WHITELIGHTNING
10-21-2004, 05:55 AM
Im glad brees is doing so well, I just hope he can keep it up. Now that he has Kmac & Shaw there should be a big improvment in his game.

Johndbr
10-22-2004, 11:29 AM
Originally posted by: tmvalence4
You guys WILL BE SORRY for how you treated me!! I don't want to stay know!!

Wrong player, that is J. Balls line.

John B.

Boltbrad
10-22-2004, 12:18 PM
Even if we had randy moss and marvin harrison our record would still be 3-3. We need someone to throw to the recievers consistantly. I hope Brees continues to improve, but his inconsistancy is what kills our drives.

kingporterblood
10-22-2004, 04:17 PM
Different athletes develope at different times some early some late in time we can make more of an acurate opinion on Brees, over the years alot of hall of fame QB`s had horrible rookie and even sophmore years in the NFL. Example- T.Aikman, J.Elway, W.Moon