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crazyman33
01-17-2005, 11:09 AM
Post them here.

Heres Mine:

Cut/Let Walk:

-Jerry wilson (FS)
-Carlos Polk (LB)
-more that im forgetting

Resign/contract extension:

-Antonio Gates (TE)
-Tonui Fonoti (LG)
-more that im forgetting

Sign:

-Dwight Smith (FS)
-Walter Jones/ Tra Thomas (LT)
-QB depth
-depth as a whole

Dwight Smith is a friend of Gates. he is pretty good at FS. only problem is he wants CB money. Walter jones wont be franchised again so will bolt in FA. Problem might be if he wants too much money. I dunno if Tra Thomas is staying with eagles, but i saw him on an unrestricted FA list.

Franchise:

-Drew Brees (QB)

Trade:

-Drew Brees to either SF, MIA, or CLE. MIA gets brees and our 28th pick. SD gets #1, 2, or 3 overall pick, a third round pick (which we currently dont have) and a 2nd rounder next year.

This tough. SF, MIA, or CLE. Miami and cleveland have already wasted picks on qbs. Any of these teams is fine. they help us get in front of the bears, who will most likely be the other team wanting mike williams.

Draft:

1, 2, or 3. Mike Williams (WR): huge stretch i no. but who cares. the man is a play maker plain and simple. we need to do this so rivers has another weapon. only knock on mike is his speed, but IMO he makes the catches when they are needed so who cares if he doesnt have 4.3 speed.
12. Antaaj Hawthorne (DT): but move him to DE in our 3-4
2nd and 3rd round: LB and O-line depth
Later in draft- KR

Coaches:

-Sign hudson houck to a long deal

Offseason Work:

-CHEMISTRY: develop chemistry between rivers and offense and team in general.
-LT's groin: plz make sure he gets fully healed!
-Run Blocking: improve it
-Convince Randall godfrey to stay one more year to play and groom younger lbs
-Shaun Phillips: dukes it out with Leber in training camp and wins starting job at olb

Starters next season:

Offense:

QB- Phillp Rivers
RB- Ladainian Tomlinson
FB- Lorenzo Neal
WR- Mike Williams
WR- Keenan McCardell
TE- Antonio Gates
LT- Walter jones/Tra Thomas
LG- Tonui Fonoti
C- Nick Hardwick
RG- Mike Goff
RT- Shane Olivea

key backups:
Jesse Chatman (RB), Eric Parker/Kassim osgood/Reche Cauldwell/Malcom Floyd (WR), Justin peele/Ryan Krause (TE)

Defense:

DE- Igor Olshansky
NT- Jamal Williams
DE- Antaaj Hawthorne
OLB- Steve Foley
ILB- Donnie Edwards
ILB- Randall Godfrey
OLB- Shaun Phillips
CB- Quentin Jammer
FS- Dwight Smith
SS- Terrence Kiel
CB- Drayton Florence
NB- Sammy Davis

Key backups:
Ben Leber/Zeke Moreno/Matt Wilhelm (LB), Jaques Cesaire (DE)

Special teams:

K- Nate kaeding
P- Mike Scifres
KR- someone good (Osgood maybe?)
PR- Eric Parker (maybe someone better)

Overall Analysis:

Phillip Rivers is the future at QB. Our offense will still be potent. he has too many weapons to suck. LT will have a 1600 yard season. Our receivers are great. Antonio gates is a monster. On defense, we will be better as a whole. Run defense will be #1. Pass defense will be around 15th, overall around 7th. Jammer will be able to bump and run because of better QB pressure. Our secondary will be physical. Shaun Phillips and Steve Foley will be sack specialists. All our d-lineman will command double teams. Special teams will be solid. We have good depth for special teams play and we have a great kicker/punter duo. only question is who will our return man be. shouldnt have gotten rid of wes welker lol

Sarris
01-17-2005, 11:58 AM
why would we make a stupid move by trading a qb who proved himself this year and replace him with a qb that hasnt proved himself. for all we know if we trade brees, we'll end up with another 10 yr droubt

crazyman33
01-17-2005, 12:03 PM
a droubt huh? thats not good... lol. man this is just a mock calm down. and i did that becuz i think now is the best time. and if uve been noticing, marty hant said that drew will be beack next year. Im a fan of brees, im just making a mock where he gets traded.

u can post ur own mock where drew brees wins us 3 super bowls.

Sarris
01-17-2005, 12:07 PM
oops, sorry

crazyman33
01-17-2005, 05:37 PM
ok i just like bein the executive president and doing these things so now ill do one to pleeze the breezers

Sign:

Dwight Smith (FS)
Walter Jones (LT)

Franchise:

Drew Brees (QB)

Trade:

12th pick in the draft and our second round pick (Overall like 61st i think?) to move up in the draft in front of the redskins and hopefully in front of the bears or just hope the bears and tampa dont take mike williams.

Draft:

top ten pick: Mike Williams (WR)
28. Antaaj Hawthorne/Marcus Spears/Dan Cody/Shaun Cody/David Pollack. whichever one is available

Antaaj and Marcus would be great if they fall that far. either cody would be nice. david pollack has the heart of a champion and "his motor never stops runnin" as they say.

OR

no trades

Draft:

12. Braylon if hes there OR Best O-lineman available (barron, jammal brown, etc).
28. Antaaj/Spears/Codys/Pollack.
2nd round pick: Jerome Mathis (WR) from Hampton. so fricken fast. will be amazing return man and stud receiver

Sarris
01-17-2005, 05:39 PM
u have pleeezed me

benji929
01-17-2005, 05:53 PM
i don't understand why we would trade brees to get williams to become a weapon for rivers. brees has already proven that he can succeed and thrive even without a big time WR like williams. besides, we still have an outside (really outside) chance of getting williams even at the 12 spot.

d. smith would be great. i've been thinking about t. davis out of georgia as well. i don't think drafting a safety is the best idea but it's a possibility. maybe move jammer to fs and draft m.jackson or pac-man jones.

i also think we need more raw talent at o-line. they've done great this year but i still think we could use more talent and potential. maybe draft a tackle with our second 1st round pick with lots of upside.

other than that, i'd say get a pass rusher through probably the draft though a pass-rushing DE might work great in the 3-4. i think a pass rushing OLB would work just as well.

crazyman33
01-17-2005, 06:20 PM
I agree with the O-tackle. i want a stud run blocker for my boy

crazyman33
01-17-2005, 06:21 PM
o btw, nice video of eli gettin the snot beaten from him

rivers017
01-17-2005, 08:19 PM
to much money and hope riding on rivers to not play him. No matter what every1 thinks rivers is the guy. It mite be a great fit it mite be a terrible 1

LTMvP61nizine
01-17-2005, 11:14 PM
Okay the first priority for the chargers is defense why are some of you talkin about gettin OL or WR when the charger could get a playmaker on defense. The games that chargers lost is because our secondary not our offense. Look at our secondary and see how many yards they give up per game, because chargers are really generous givin up yards. Ill say draft a FS and CB if jammer moves to SS which i doubt. But I know we need a somebody in the secondary especially the FS area maybe a dline or CB.

wikimama
01-18-2005, 10:40 AM
The Bolts will sign................

cornerback Samari Rolle, He will be a cap casuality and he is a young great corner. Pleasea give Jammer and the d-line some help!( Sam Madison will also get cut but he is a few years older 31)

free safety Dwight Smith or cap casuality Lance Schulters from the Titans.( i read it in a Tennessee newspaper website)

The Bolts will draft......................

12.) Jammal Brown OT from Oklahoma to compete with Roman Oben for the starting left tackle spot. If Mike Williams is there they will take him but i think he won't get past the Raiders.

28.) Shaun Cody DE-DT USC, Matt Roth DE Iowa, or Mark Clayton WR Oklahoma

What do you guys think?
Go Bolts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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benji929
01-18-2005, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by: LTMvP61nizine
Okay the first priority for the chargers is defense why are some of you talkin about gettin OL or WR when the charger could get a playmaker on defense. The games that chargers lost is because our secondary not our offense. Look at our secondary and see how many yards they give up per game, because chargers are really generous givin up yards. Ill say draft a FS and CB if jammer moves to SS which i doubt. But I know we need a somebody in the secondary especially the FS area maybe a dline or CB.

we don't need another young player in the secondary. i wouldn't take a CB (at least not with the first pick) unless antrel rolle somehow falls into our lap at 12. even then i have my doubts. it's hard to be a true shut down corner with the new rule emphasis. guys like chump bailey are getting worked by big, fast WR. that's why i'd like a braylon edwards or mike williams. you gotta adapt with the times and the current nfl rules favor the passing attack.

as i mentioned, thomas davis would be an interesting choice at safety. i'd honesty rather have a big, pass-rushing DE/OLB over a CB even though the secondary is our biggest weakness. bring in D. Smith to help develop the young talent.

Gaucho
01-19-2005, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by: crazyman33
Post them here.

Heres Mine:

Cut/Let Walk:

-Jerry wilson (FS)
-Carlos Polk (LB)
-more that im forgetting

Resign/contract extension:

-Antonio Gates (TE)
-Tonui Fonoti (LG)
-more that im forgetting

Sign:

-Dwight Smith (FS)
-Walter Jones/ Tra Thomas (LT)
-QB depth
-depth as a whole

Dwight Smith is a friend of Gates. he is pretty good at FS. only problem is he wants CB money. Walter jones wont be franchised again so will bolt in FA. Problem might be if he wants too much money. I dunno if Tra Thomas is staying with eagles, but i saw him on an unrestricted FA list.

Franchise:

-Drew Brees (QB)

Trade:

-Drew Brees to either SF, MIA, or CLE. MIA gets brees and our 28th pick. SD gets #1, 2, or 3 overall pick, a third round pick (which we currently dont have) and a 2nd rounder next year.

This tough. SF, MIA, or CLE. Miami and cleveland have already wasted picks on qbs. Any of these teams is fine. they help us get in front of the bears, who will most likely be the other team wanting mike williams.

Draft:

1, 2, or 3. Mike Williams (WR): huge stretch i no. but who cares. the man is a play maker plain and simple. we need to do this so rivers has another weapon. only knock on mike is his speed, but IMO he makes the catches when they are needed so who cares if he doesnt have 4.3 speed.
12. Antaaj Hawthorne (DT): but move him to DE in our 3-4
2nd and 3rd round: LB and O-line depth
Later in draft- KR

Coaches:

-Sign hudson houck to a long deal

Offseason Work:

-CHEMISTRY: develop chemistry between rivers and offense and team in general.
-LT's groin: plz make sure he gets fully healed!
-Run Blocking: improve it
-Convince Randall godfrey to stay one more year to play and groom younger lbs
-Shaun Phillips: dukes it out with Leber in training camp and wins starting job at olb

Starters next season:

Offense:

QB- Phillp Rivers
RB- Ladainian Tomlinson
FB- Lorenzo Neal
WR- Mike Williams
WR- Keenan McCardell
TE- Antonio Gates
LT- Walter jones/Tra Thomas
LG- Tonui Fonoti
C- Nick Hardwick
RG- Mike Goff
RT- Shane Olivea

key backups:
Jesse Chatman (RB), Eric Parker/Kassim osgood/Reche Cauldwell/Malcom Floyd (WR), Justin peele/Ryan Krause (TE)

Defense:

DE- Igor Olshansky
NT- Jamal Williams
DE- Antaaj Hawthorne
OLB- Steve Foley
ILB- Donnie Edwards
ILB- Randall Godfrey
OLB- Shaun Phillips
CB- Quentin Jammer
FS- Dwight Smith
SS- Terrence Kiel
CB- Drayton Florence
NB- Sammy Davis

Key backups:
Ben Leber/Zeke Moreno/Matt Wilhelm (LB), Jaques Cesaire (DE)

Special teams:

K- Nate kaeding
P- Mike Scifres
KR- someone good (Osgood maybe?)
PR- Eric Parker (maybe someone better)

Overall Analysis:

Phillip Rivers is the future at QB. Our offense will still be potent. he has too many weapons to suck. LT will have a 1600 yard season. Our receivers are great. Antonio gates is a monster. On defense, we will be better as a whole. Run defense will be #1. Pass defense will be around 15th, overall around 7th. Jammer will be able to bump and run because of better QB pressure. Our secondary will be physical. Shaun Phillips and Steve Foley will be sack specialists. All our d-lineman will command double teams. Special teams will be solid. We have good depth for special teams play and we have a great kicker/punter duo. only question is who will our return man be. shouldnt have gotten rid of wes welker lol


You can't trade Drew or Philip. I like Philip alot. I think he has that IT. For some reason, AJ liked Rivers more than he liked the other two, Manning and Rothlisberger. You won't get a first round pick for either quarterback. Here's proof:

The colts didn't get a first round pick for Marshall Faulk, and he's a hal

HBBoltFan
01-19-2005, 05:58 PM
Originally posted by: Gaucho
You can't trade Drew or Philip. I like Philip alot. I think he has that IT. For some reason, AJ liked Rivers more than he liked the other two, Manning and Rothlisberger. You won't get a first round pick for either quarterback. Here's proof:

The colts didn't get a first round pick for Marshall Faulk, and he's a hall of famer. The saint's did not get a first round pick for Ricky Williams. The 49ers or the Ravens did not get a first round pick for Terrell Owens, who has proven to be more of an impact player than Brees or Rivers.

While I agree with you on the don't trade Brees OR Rivers, you might be able to get value for either one. The Saints traded Williams to Miami for draft picks: a first-round choice in 2002 and a third-rounder in 2003 that could escalate to a first-rounder if Williams rushes for 1,500 yards this year. But St. Louis got a steal, spending second- and fifth-round draft choices on Faulk. One thing to remember is that RB is a easier position to play than QB. That is not to diminish the player that LT is, it is just that QB is harder to play and should be more valuable. Not to mention that the Bills gave up what one or two 1st rounders for Bledsoe.

Other than that, let Wilson walk and get Smith. I don't think M. Williams would be a value pick for the Chargers when there are other needs. If Shaun Cody can be had at 12, do it or maybe Spears in the 2nd round. One thought on replacing Godfrey if he retires would be to draft Morrison and/or maybe sign Seau on a one year vet minimum contract Morrison could be a good inside 3-4 LB and Seau looks like he still had some in the tank until his injury this year.

Gaucho
01-19-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by: HBBoltFan

Originally posted by: Gaucho
You can't trade Drew or Philip. I like Philip alot. I think he has that IT. For some reason, AJ liked Rivers more than he liked the other two, Manning and Rothlisberger. You won't get a first round pick for either quarterback. Here's proof:

The colts didn't get a first round pick for Marshall Faulk, and he's a hall of famer. The saint's did not get a first round pick for Ricky Williams. The 49ers or the Ravens did not get a first round pick for Terrell Owens, who has proven to be more of an impact player than Brees or Rivers.

While I agree with you on the don't trade Brees OR Rivers, you might be able to get value for either one. The Saints traded Williams to Miami for draft picks: a first-round choice in 2002 and a third-rounder in 2003 that could escalate to a first-rounder if Williams rushes for 1,500 yards this year. But St. Louis got a steal, spending second- and fifth-round draft choices on Faulk. One thing to remember is that RB is a easier position to play than QB. That is not to diminish the player that LT is, it is just that QB is harder to play and should be more valuable. Not to mention that the Bills gave up what one or two 1st rounders for Bledsoe.

Other than that, let Wilson walk and get Smith. I don't think M. Williams would be a value pick for the Chargers when there are other needs. If Shaun Cody can be had at 12, do it or maybe Spears in the 2nd round. One thought on replacing Godfrey if he retires would be to draft Morrison and/or maybe sign Seau on a one year vet minimum contract Morrison could be a good inside 3-4 LB and Seau looks like he still had some in the tank until his injury this year.

I hear ya. I agree with you. Finally, someone who knows what they are talking about. However, Bledsoe had value because he has hall of fame stats. He had hall of fame stats from day one. He went to SB's. I don't think Brees has that great of a resume. One good year on his resume doesn't compare to Bledsoe.

candokid
01-20-2005, 01:25 AM
I like Dwight Smith. He was a corner for the Bucs in 2003. I found this article on Dwight Smith... not too sure if he's entering FA as a safety or corner. If he worked well as a convert from corner to safety, maybe it will work for Jammer or Florence. I hope we can grab him though. He's looking solid. I also like Fred Smoot. Here's the link> http://www.bucpower.com/smith1512.html

mojorasol
01-20-2005, 08:03 AM
i think im gonna trust aj, but my opinion is that we need to shore up our defense. jammer seems to be having trouble in coverage and would make an excellent strong safety. I say they add a top of the line corner and use drayton florence as the #2 with sammy davis as a #3. maybe jerry wilson will come back for reduced money as a backup, i dunno.

if they can add a top notch corner in free agency, go for it, im not sure who's out there, but fred smoot would sure be nice...

chrisx448
01-24-2005, 07:58 PM
yes we would get a lot more than just a 1st round for either of our QB's and heres the reason:

there is a severe drought in this years draft at QB. Rodgers and Smith wouldnt even be in the top 15 usually. Rivers is way better than either of them and there is a lot of teams in the nfl that desperately need a qb:

browns
49ers
dolphins
cowboys
raiders
cardinals


i say we ask for a 1st and 3rd in this years draft, and a second or so in next year's.

bluegold81
01-25-2005, 07:01 PM
sounds like a good plan, a first third this year and a 2nd or third next year for brees.
Then select WR/DEorDT/OL
He proved himself one year with no great WR most of the year, but all you really need is a great RB(LT) and a young awsome TE (Gates) to throw short and get chuck after catch.

benji929
01-25-2005, 07:49 PM
Originally posted by: chrisx448
yes we would get a lot more than just a 1st round for either of our QB's and heres the reason:

there is a severe drought in this years draft at QB. Rodgers and Smith wouldnt even be in the top 15 usually. Rivers is way better than either of them and there is a lot of teams in the nfl that desperately need a qb:

browns
49ers
dolphins
cowboys
raiders
cardinals


i say we ask for a 1st and 3rd in this years draft, and a second or so in next year's.


i doubt teams will give up that much for rivers and like i said, i don't understand why we would trade brees when he's just completed a pro bowl season. one thing i noticed about your teams with no qb is that they all suck. so why would we chance it and be in that position? yea, i know, rivers could be great and all, but he could also not be so great. i want him to be great, i really do, but i don't want to chance it no when we have a pro bowler as a qb.

benji929
01-25-2005, 07:55 PM
Originally posted by: bluegold81
sounds like a good plan, a first third this year and a 2nd or third next year for brees.
Then select WR/DEorDT/OL
He proved himself one year with no great WR most of the year, but all you really need is a great RB(LT) and a young awsome TE (Gates) to throw short and get chuck after catch.


there's plenty of teams with good rb's who suck. the chargers were one of them last year. the bengals when they had dillon was another. there are very few losing teams with good qbs. i highly doubt that we would have won even 8 games if brees played poorly or below average. LT's great but a rb can't carry a team every game, and gates still needs someone to throw to him. the qb position is still the most important and i think brees has proven that he's a pretty good qb.

some teams can win with mediocre qb play but they are usually grind it out, defensive oriented teams. the chargers are not one of them. don't take a chance with rivers just yet, stick with the somewhat proven pro bowler.

it blows my mind how some people still want's to trade brees for draft picks, especially in this year's poor draft.

frankrollingrivers
01-26-2005, 09:12 PM
I say if we dont go after moss we should try to trade up for edwards a cant miss wr.

HeadTrip
01-26-2005, 09:31 PM
We would easily get a first plus more for either of our QBs. The rams might have got faulk cheap, but The giants were willing to give up Rivers, a #1 and a #3 for manning. i/expressions/face-icon-small-shocked.gif

JoeMcRugby
01-27-2005, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by: HeadTrip
We would easily get a first plus more for either of our QBs. The rams might have got faulk cheap, but The giants were willing to give up Rivers, a #1 and a #3 for manning.

Don't forget the #5 in this year's draft. i/expressions/face-icon-small-happy.gif

Boltneck
01-27-2005, 11:26 AM
Trade Rivers to Dallas for #1 and #2 and a player

Trade up With someone else to get reeeeal High.

Get Mike Williams or Brylon Edwards..

Fix the Defense through FA and fill it in with the Draft.

Dont really care who else we pcik..

guimcharger
01-28-2005, 02:06 PM
I don't think that we trade either QB till we know who has won the starting job. Drew Brees will probably win and Rivers will be gone by week 6 of the regular season.