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Spank
03-13-2006, 09:27 AM
As reported today on The Tony Kornheiser Show, sportstalk980.com the 'Skins have reached a deal with Archuletta. He will be announced at an afternoon press conference.

Terms were not noted on any website as of 11am EST.

Podium
03-13-2006, 09:28 AM
I'm glad. This guy is HORRIBLE in coverage. The skins look like they're just going after names now. The Randle El signing wasn't a good one IMO.

The best move they've made was the Lloyd trade.

theiceweasel
03-13-2006, 09:29 AM
ESPN's John Clayton is reporting that the Redskins gave him $10M in guaranteed money and a deal worth close to $5M a year.

Strike another off the list. Personally I'd rather have Hope anyway.

WakkaWakkaWakka
03-13-2006, 09:31 AM
And the further into cap hell the Redskins will come into come next year.

The-Beast
03-13-2006, 09:31 AM
ya hard hitter who couldnt cover a kicker if he was asked to.

Spank
03-13-2006, 09:33 AM
I'm glad. This guy is HORRIBLE in coverage. The skins look like they're just going after names now. The Randle El signing wasn't a good one IMO.

The best move they've made was the Lloyd trade.
I dont have anything positive to say qbout Archulletta so I wont say anything.

They gave up too much for Lloyd. They overpaid Randle El.

Thats Danny's style though :)

Podium
03-13-2006, 09:35 AM
I dont have anything positive to say qbout Archulletta so I wont say anything.

They gave up too much for Lloyd. They overpaid Randle El.

Thats Danny's style though :)

I thought they gave up too much in the trade too. But, I'm thinking SF was asking for as much, so that they can help rebuild.

But, then again McCareins was traded for a 2nd round pick a couple of years back right? From TEN to NYJ. I thought that was a horrible trade at the time too.

mtxsound
03-13-2006, 09:36 AM
In case youre looking for a link.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5405626

Dont think we needed him though. Hope, or maybe someone in the draft, and we're fine.

RAWDOGG
03-13-2006, 09:36 AM
I dont have anything positive to say qbout Archulletta so I wont say anything.

They gave up too much for Lloyd. They overpaid Randle El.

Thats Danny's style though :)

Yea, but IMO better than Aj's style, Aj needs to start spending some dough and realize you can't always do it in the draft

Podium
03-13-2006, 09:36 AM
AJ this is the Saftey u should have gone after u freakin idiot


safety? that's a loose definition of what Archuletta is.

Podium
03-13-2006, 09:38 AM
Yea, but IMO better than Aj's style, Aj needs to start spending some dough and realize you can't always do it in the draft


Just want to add this quick thing RAWDOGG, don't want to hijack this thread.

But, you can always do it in the draft. Look at the Colts. All of their marquee players, they've drafted. Yeah, they haven't won the superbowl, but admittedly they do have a great team. Manning just chokes in the clutch.

mtxsound
03-13-2006, 09:39 AM
Just want to add this quick thing RAWDOGG, don't want to hijack this thread.

But, you can always do it in the draft. Look at the Colts. All of their marquee players, they've drafted. Yeah, they haven't won the superbowl, but admittedly they do have a great team. Manning just chokes in the clutch.

Redskins havent won one in a long time and they "buy" all their players. Mix the two properly and you win the Super Bowl. IMO.

LightzOut
03-13-2006, 10:05 AM
Anyone else understand how DC is able to sign all of these marquee FAs with their cap troubles? Before the CBA, experts were saying that the skins might have to field a team with 20+ rookies in order to get in line with the cap. The CBA only added an additional $7.5mil, so how did they manage to become big spenders on the FA market? Seems like they are dishing out a lot of guaranteed money.

Podium
03-13-2006, 10:07 AM
Check out this link by Clayton.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

reportedly, as of March 10, the skins were over the cap by 4.9M

I'm not sure how this is working then..

Alibell1
03-13-2006, 10:42 AM
AJ this is the Saftey u should have gone after u freakin idiot

I bet you're the kinda guy that can tell us his Madden ratings off the top of your head.

Alibell1
03-13-2006, 10:44 AM
Yea, but IMO better than Aj's style, Aj needs to start spending some dough and realize you can't always do it in the draft

We've seen AJ's style for just two short years, so give him some time to build a team his way then pass judgement on him. I know we live in a quick fix world, but building a team that is good over the long haul takes time.

BCBoltFan
03-13-2006, 12:03 PM
Wow, some are saying we overpaid for McCree!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

Alibell1
03-13-2006, 12:05 PM
Wow, some are saying we overpaid for McCree!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

No team is better at bidding against themselves than the Redskins. I wish I could burn money in my fireplace like Danny boy does.

Podium
03-13-2006, 12:27 PM
By the way,

The Washington Redskins are cornering the market in short WRs.

bolts4ever21
03-13-2006, 12:51 PM
I think Arculeta was over rated. Just a boy that was getting too much air time for really doing nothing. I'm glad AJ didn't go for him! Just because you have cap space, doesn't mean you buy anything... something would be nice, but not everything.

Spank
03-13-2006, 01:00 PM
They cut Matt Bowen last week. He is the same player as Archuletta without the big salary. Strong run support. Cant cover.

BTW, Gibbs has the final say in all personel in DC. So he says go get'em and Danny pays whatever they want. Danny doesnt just add these guys. Gibbs is asking for them.

Spank
03-13-2006, 01:05 PM
Check out this link by Clayton.

http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2349505

reportedly, as of March 10, the skins were over the cap by 4.9M

I'm not sure how this is working then..

From profootballtalk.com......

'SKINS GO FROM CAP STRAPPED TO CAP HAPPY

As the Washington Redskins continue to amass new players days after they supposedly were teetering at the edge of cap hell, plenty of folks around the league are scratching their heads.

The 'Skins are spending big again, making a big splash in free agency by reeling in receiver Antwaan Randle El, safety Adam Archuleta, and tight end Christian Fauria. The Redskins also picked up receiver Brandon Lloyd in a trade on Saturday with the 49ers.

Randle El reportedly gets $11.5 million in bonus money, a ridiculously high amount for a guy who'll be No. 3 at best on the depth chart.

Then, on Monday, the 'Skins scalped safety Adam Archuleta, formerly of the Rams, on a deal that we're told is worth $30.18 million over six years. We're told that the package includes $10.585 million in guarantees, making it the richest deal ever signed by an NFL safety.

So where are the supposedly cap-poor Redskins coming up with the cap space to get these deals done?

They freed up $4.4 million a week ago as part of the deal that made linebacker LaVar Arrington a free agent, and they shed several veterans on the eve of free agency to create more room. Likewise, it was reported that they planned to convert $13.5 million in roster bonus payments into guarantees, which would then be spread over five years.

And don't forget about the extra $7.5 million in cap room that popped onto the books as part of the new CBA.

Our guess is that these new deals will leave the 'Skins close to the $102 million ceiling for 2006, and that there will be more tinkering with contracts in order to free up more money for more signings. Eventually, they'll need cap space to sign their incoming rookies.

Podium
03-13-2006, 01:07 PM
From profootballtalk.com......

'SKINS GO FROM CAP STRAPPED TO CAP HAPPY


As the Washington Redskins continue to amass new players days after they supposedly were teetering at the edge of cap hell, plenty of folks around the league are scratching their heads.



The 'Skins are spending big again, making a big splash in free agency by reeling in receiver Antwaan Randle El, safety Adam Archuleta, and tight end Christian Fauria. The Redskins also picked up receiver Brandon Lloyd in a trade on Saturday with the 49ers.



Randle El reportedly gets $11.5 million in bonus money, a ridiculously high amount for a guy who'll be No. 3 at best on the depth chart.



Then, on Monday, the 'Skins scalped safety Adam Archuleta, formerly of the Rams, on a deal that we're told is worth $30.18 million over six years. We're told that the package includes $10.585 million in guarantees, making it the richest deal ever signed by an NFL safety.



So where are the supposedly cap-poor Redskins coming up with the cap space to get these deals done?



They freed up $4.4 million a week ago as part of the deal that made linebacker LaVar Arrington a free agent, and they shed several veterans on the eve of free agency to create more room. Likewise, it was reported that they planned to convert $13.5 million in roster bonus payments into guarantees, which would then be spread over five years.



And don't forget about the extra $7.5 million in cap room that popped onto the books as part of the new CBA.



Our guess is that these new deals will leave the 'Skins close to the $102 million ceiling for 2006, and that there will be more tinkering with contracts in order to free up more money for more signings. Eventually, they'll need cap space to sign their incoming rookies.


Thanks Spank. Looks like by turning those bonuses into guarantees, they're deffering cap hits for coming years. IMO they should have just taken a year to take all those cap hits, then that way they won't have to deal with them in the future.

Spank
03-13-2006, 01:15 PM
Thanks Spank. Looks like by turning those bonuses into guarantees, they're deffering cap hits for coming years. IMO they should have just taken a year to take all those cap hits, then that way they won't have to deal with them in the future.
Maybe they think this is their year and they can't cut a lot of guys after the season and just be responsible for the bonuses. Who knows?

mdsd77
03-13-2006, 01:59 PM
man, it sounds like San Fran in the OLD DAYS

and then they won 5 SB's

and then they figured they were hidin money and busted Debartolo big time

and they shoulda stripped their trophies.

I am a skins fan too and somethin funky goin on here, and if not, where in the hell did the chargers get their CAP SPECIALIST???

Clairemont high School???

man, something weird up hey brothers?

SuperBowlBolts
03-13-2006, 04:05 PM
AJ this is the Saftey u should have gone after u freakin idiot
i dont think so Acrchuletta is known for his coverage skills. McCree on the other hand can cover.

SD Chargers Fan
03-13-2006, 04:46 PM
I dont have anything positive to say qbout Archulletta so I wont say anything.

They gave up too much for Lloyd. They overpaid Randle El.

Thats Danny's style though :)

Arent u glad u have one of the better, if not the best, GM's in the league??

Spank
03-13-2006, 04:51 PM
Arent u glad u have one of the better, if not the best, GM's in the league??
I like that he's is a no BS kinda guy. I wouldn't say he's the best GM in the league. I believe the Bolts have a losing record with him at the helm, so that may be overating him.

I do like his style though....

hoopdreams
03-13-2006, 04:54 PM
I'm glad. This guy is HORRIBLE in coverage. The skins look like they're just going after names now. The Randle El signing wasn't a good one IMO.

The best move they've made was the Lloyd trade.

Maybe they signed him because they know that coverage isn't the main job of a SS. Unlike many of the people in this forum. Tackling is more important.

Thunderstruck
03-13-2006, 04:56 PM
Snyder's such a tool. You almost get the feeling he is just indescriminately signing any "name" free agent he sees, whether or not they're right for his team or system.

I wonder how Lloyd will like being demoted from #1 receiver on the Niners to #3 receiver on the Skins.

Spank
03-13-2006, 05:02 PM
Snyder's such a tool. You almost get the feeling he is just indescriminately signing any "name" free agent he sees, whether or not they're right for his team or system.

I wonder how Lloyd will like being demoted from #1 receiver on the Niners to #3 receiver on the Skins.

This isnt like years past. I think Gibbs is asking for these players. He's in control of the roster.

I think Lloyd will be #2. Randel El is a show, not a quality receiver. He can play reciever but he isnt something you gameplan against. At least I dont think so.

JCDavey
03-13-2006, 05:09 PM
i just heard on sirius skins got andre carter which is said to greatly dissapoint oakland and denver

so wtg skins!!! haha, good work!

the guy on sirius also says the skins announced this will be their last big-name f/a signing

hoopdreams
03-13-2006, 05:13 PM
i just heard on sirius skins got andre carter which is said to greatly dissapoint oakland and denver

so wtg skins!!! haha, good work!

the guy on sirius also says the skins announced this will be their last big-name f/a signing

Any bad news for those guys is good news for us!:p

loweezy
03-13-2006, 05:15 PM
I like that he's is a no BS kinda guy. I wouldn't say he's the best GM in the league. I believe the Bolts have a losing record with him at the helm, so that may be overating him.

I do like his style though....

aj became the gm in 2003... after taking over for the late john butler...

Smith began his stint as executive vice president - general manager on Tuesday, April 22, 2003.

"The 2004 NFL season was rewarding in many ways for General Manager A.J. Smith. He was named the NFL's Executive of the Year by Pro Football Weekly and the

Professional Football Writers of America. Smith put his personal stamp on a team that improved from 4-12 in 2003 to 12-4 in 2004, and captured its first AFC West title since 1994. Smith earned similar accolades from FoxSports.com, while being named the NFL's Best Front Office Executive by CBS Sportsline.com."

i'd cut him some slack for 2k3... given the circumstances of him taking over unexpectedly due to the passing of our then GM...

but 4 and 12, 12 and 4, 9 and 7... sounds to me like even with that 4 and 12 year, we're a game over .500

successful? I THINK SO

Spank
03-13-2006, 05:15 PM
Posted this 45 minutes ago, but I guess no one cared.

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=29468

Spank
03-13-2006, 05:19 PM
but 4 and 12, 12 and 4, 9 and 7... sounds to me like even with that 4 and 12 year, we're a game over .500

I stand corrected. I must have done some bad math. It appears as though we have the best GM in the league.

hoopdreams
03-13-2006, 05:29 PM
but 4 and 12, 12 and 4, 9 and 7... sounds to me like even with that 4 and 12 year, we're a game over .500

I stand corrected. I must have done some bad math. It appears as though we have the best GM in the league.


Yes! Since when was just over .500 considered a good record anyway? Maybe for a crappy team, but not for a team in pursuit of a championship.

Spank
03-13-2006, 05:33 PM
Even thru all the sarcasm I do like AJ's way of business. I just wont call him the best GM in the league. He's still a good one IMO.

loweezy
03-13-2006, 05:37 PM
the point is... he's done a great job... and in his FIRST FULL year as GM he was voted executive of the year. so some credible people believe he is the best gm in the league

Alibell1
03-14-2006, 12:46 AM
but 4 and 12, 12 and 4, 9 and 7... sounds to me like even with that 4 and 12 year, we're a game over .500

I stand corrected. I must have done some bad math. It appears as though we have the best GM in the league.


You can't put the 4-12 on AJ because he officially got the job in late April when free agency and the draft were done. That 2003 season was JB's even though he had passed. Remember, JB was the guy that signed Boston, not AJ.

AJ has put the 12-4 and 9-7 seasons together. I still can't figure out how so many think a long term winning organization can be built in just two years. It really boggles my mind.

MDChargerFan
03-14-2006, 06:48 AM
By the way,

The Washington Redskins are cornering the market in short WRs.

Its the return of The Smurfs

Spank
03-14-2006, 10:41 AM
the point is... he's done a great job... and in his FIRST FULL year as GM he was voted executive of the year. so some credible people believe he is the best gm in the league

No, some credible people think he had a fantastic season. Most prolly gave him the vote based on how he ****ed the Giants. I'll give him credit for that (even though we all know he should have drafted OL Gallery).

I'm sure if given a choice and it was anonymous most would pick Bill Pollian.

Spank
03-14-2006, 10:42 AM
Mod, what was wrong with that term?

Please PM....

Spank
03-14-2006, 10:53 AM
You can't put the 4-12 on AJ because he officially got the job in late April when free agency and the draft were done. That 2003 season was JB's even though he had passed. Remember, JB was the guy that signed Boston, not AJ.

AJ has put the 12-4 and 9-7 seasons together. I still can't figure out how so many think a long term winning organization can be built in just two years. It really boggles my mind.

Yeah I get all that. Wiley and Boston. Great hires. NOT.

As I said I like AJ's way of business. I just wouldnt call him the best GM in the league. Its just my opinion.

loweezy
03-14-2006, 10:58 AM
No, some credible people think he had a fantastic season. Most prolly gave him the vote based on how he ****ed the Giants. I'll give him credit for that (even though we all know he should have drafted OL Gallery).

I'm sure if given a choice and it was anonymous most would pick Bill Pollian.

why should we have drafted gallery? because you knew drew brees would be comeback player of the year?

BoltsfanNYC
03-14-2006, 11:00 AM
um... we are here now... if rivers is average this year we should go 10-6 we are that good everywhere else... from role players to special teams kicking... we are very solid...

that all said... we need a tackle Vet and a 1st or 2nd rounder... A guard in the draft as olivea will move to guard... and a Center I would take a guy from FA or nick mangold...
ILB-greenway would be perfect... or maybe a 3rd rounder and a VET...
Vet CB and a draft pick..
safety...bullock will do.. or blue... in the 4th
WR-VJ to show up and a guy like robinson-wr-qb-s
PR-as sproles is too brittle