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RAWDOGG
02-22-2008, 06:39 PM
HAHAHAHA

Padres suck :layup

Bolt Cola
02-22-2008, 08:08 PM
GO PADRES!!!!!!!!!!!

fireknuckles
02-22-2008, 09:54 PM
Wuts a Dodger?

RAWDOGG
02-22-2008, 10:17 PM
Wuts a Dodger?

Someone escaping a Padre :LightsOut:

SuperMatt
02-23-2008, 04:42 AM
When the Dodgers do something relevant...maybe they'll get their own section.

:-X

crixus
02-23-2008, 06:42 AM
As a diehard Chargers & DODGERS fan I must congratulate the Padres for being our true # 1 rival in baseball. The Giants are sooo bad that the famous rivalry between them and the Dodgers has sputtered at best. The Padres play the Dodgers alot tougher than the Giants do, and are our real rival on the field!

Bye Bye Barroid & So long Clemens.

Colsrob
02-23-2008, 07:51 AM
Same place as the Angels and Giants section........elsewhere.

Would you like a Raider section to go with that Dodger one?

Who is the silly that is responsible for leaving things like this off of the Chargers.com site?

This is about as crazy as Ford not advertising to help sell Chevrolets. What is the matter with people?!?!?

EnFuego
02-25-2008, 03:40 PM
HAHAHAHA

Padres suck :layup

Somewhere in Smell A:LightsOut:

dekkerbasser
02-25-2008, 03:50 PM
Wuts a Dodger?

A figment of MLB's imagination.

RAWDOGG
02-25-2008, 04:30 PM
When the Dodgers do something relevant...maybe they'll get their own section.

:-X

Relevant?

Like win a championship?

Have the Padres EVER won a championship lol

RAWDOGG
02-25-2008, 04:32 PM
A figment of MLB's imagination.

And the winner of the 2008 National League west :LightsOut:

Strife9878
02-25-2008, 05:12 PM
Dodgers are how high on the top paid teams and they couldnt make the playoffs? that was sad.

SuperMatt
02-25-2008, 05:24 PM
Relevant?

Like win a championship?

Have the Padres EVER won a championship lol


Okay, allow me to rephrase.

When the Dodgers do something relevant within the past 20 years!!

You silly Dodger fans talk like you're the best team in baseball...or that you've even been close.

Dodger fans love nothing more than to ride the glory of teams LONG forgotten by everyone but OLD DODGER HISTORIANS.

According to Wiki. The Dodgers have been around since 1883. The World Series has been around since 1903. It took the Dodgers 38 years to lose their first world series. (The Padres took 15) Then the almighty Dodgers lost four more times before they finally won on in 1955...72 years after their inception.

The point I'm trying to make is that eventually, even a blind squirrel bumps into a nut.

The Padres have one of the top pitching staffs in baseball and have had this for the past several years. They have some tremendous young talent and finally have their farm system in order to groom many high-level MLB prospects that will be coming into the league in the next few years. The Dodgers have overpaid for an aging CF and a manager who couldn't get it done with a $200 million dollar payroll....

RAWDOGG
02-25-2008, 06:24 PM
Okay, allow me to rephrase.

When the Dodgers do something relevant within the past 20 years!!

You silly Dodger fans talk like you're the best team in baseball...or that you've even been close.

Dodger fans love nothing more than to ride the glory of teams LONG forgotten by everyone but OLD DODGER HISTORIANS.

According to Wiki. The Dodgers have been around since 1883. The World Series has been around since 1903. It took the Dodgers 38 years to lose their first world series. (The Padres took 15) Then the almighty Dodgers lost four more times before they finally won on in 1955...72 years after their inception.

The point I'm trying to make is that eventually, even a blind squirrel bumps into a nut.

The Padres have one of the top pitching staffs in baseball and have had this for the past several years. They have some tremendous young talent and finally have their farm system in order to groom many high-level MLB prospects that will be coming into the league in the next few years. The Dodgers have overpaid for an aging CF and a manager who couldn't get it done with a $200 million dollar payroll....

lol
When will the Pudres bump into their nut?

dekkerbasser
02-25-2008, 07:00 PM
2007 Dodger Fan of the Year:

http://www.dodgerblues.com/images/ugly-lady_sm.jpg

boltpride515
02-25-2008, 07:17 PM
more like...
http://www.comptonpolicegangs.com/images/two-vatos.jpg

2007 Dodger Fan of the Year:

http://www.dodgerblues.com/images/ugly-lady_sm.jpg

RAWDOGG
02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
more like...
http://www.comptonpolicegangs.com/images/two-vatos.jpg

Your right, but sadly the same could be said about Charger fans http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

SuperMatt
02-25-2008, 07:29 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/adaptingfate/20061007-whoops_lasorda.jpg

boltpride515
02-25-2008, 07:31 PM
yeah no kidding haha. At least San Diego vatos arent as rough as Los Angeles vatos.

Your right, but sadly the same could be said about Charger fans http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon8.gif

Bolt Cola
02-25-2008, 08:21 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/adaptingfate/20061007-whoops_lasorda.jpg
haha...at least this year he will be required to wear a helmet

http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20080224&content_id=2387656&vkey=spt2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

RAWDOGG
02-25-2008, 08:57 PM
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c270/adaptingfate/20061007-whoops_lasorda.jpg

That's just wrong

SuperMatt
02-25-2008, 11:44 PM
That's just wrong



Why? I thought he was just doing a somersault to celebrate the Dodgers championship?!

:D

dekkerbasser
02-26-2008, 11:01 AM
That's just wrong

No, this is wrong:

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/PPP__Darryl-strawberry.jpg

Dan40
02-26-2008, 12:28 PM
There's something very unnatural about some Chargers fans admitting to being Dodgers fans.

Very unnatural indeed.

leftyinthepen
02-26-2008, 12:36 PM
the dodger section?

i think i just dropped it off in the toilet

RAWDOGG
02-26-2008, 04:48 PM
No, this is wrong:

http://www.mugshots.com/IMAGES/PPP__Darryl-strawberry.jpg

That must have been Daryl as a Met :LightsOut:

Al "T.D." Bundy
02-27-2008, 06:03 PM
There's something very unnatural about some Chargers fans admitting to being Dodgers fans.

Very unnatural indeed.

Sorry....count me in!

Dodgers
Lakers
Kings
and
CHARGERS!!!!

RAWDOGG
02-27-2008, 06:11 PM
Sorry....count me in!

Dodgers
Lakers
Kings
and
CHARGERS!!!!

That's who I root for.....have for almost 30 years :LightsOut: (not a hockey fan at all)

My family has a few generations of cheering for these teams starting with the Dodgers back in NY

Applying Dan's logic "it is very unnatural" to root for the Chargers living in Pequot Lakes, MN

dekkerbasser
02-27-2008, 06:51 PM
That's who I root for.....have for almost 30 years :LightsOut: (not a hockey fan at all)

My family has a few generations of cheering for these teams starting with the Dodgers back in NY

Applying Dan's logic "it is very unnatural" to root for the Chargers living in Pequot Lakes, MN

Still, he's no Dodger fan! :D

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/ATA/24818BP.jpg

Dan40
02-28-2008, 04:45 PM
That's who I root for.....have for almost 30 years :LightsOut: (not a hockey fan at all)

My family has a few generations of cheering for these teams starting with the Dodgers back in NY

Applying Dan's logic "it is very unnatural" to root for the Chargers living in Pequot Lakes, MN
Hey, it's taken me 12+ years to get used to you guys north of Camp Pendleton rooting for the Chargers!

ChargersFan55
02-28-2008, 05:07 PM
The Dodger section is in the Raider forum and THE DODGER forum.
GO PADRES!

Bolt Cola
02-28-2008, 06:12 PM
Overweight, Over paid, and Overrated....Andruw Jones weighs in to Spring Training at 240 pounds....he must be eating great with all that money the doggies are forking out for him

http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/02/27/andruw_0228.html

RAWDOGG
02-28-2008, 09:24 PM
The Dodger section is in the Raider forum and THE DODGER forum.
GO PADRES!

WOuldn't the A's section be on the Raider forum http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

RAWDOGG
02-28-2008, 09:25 PM
Hey, it's taken me 12+ years to get used to you guys north of Camp Pendleton rooting for the Chargers!


I was born and raised in Vista/Oceanside, moved north of Pendleton about 3 years ago to buy a house

KeepRivers06
03-04-2008, 09:58 AM
Overweight, Over paid, and Overrated....Andruw Jones weighs in to Spring Training at 240 pounds....he must be eating great with all that money the doggies are forking out for him

http://www.ajc.com/braves/content/sports/braves/stories/2008/02/27/andruw_0228.html

WOW

240lbs!? That's big papi status. How can someone expect to play CF weighing 240lbs?

SuperMatt
03-04-2008, 11:23 AM
WOW

240lbs!? That's big papi status. How can someone expect to play CF weighing 240lbs?

http://www.electropedicbeds.com/Invacare-MX4-400.jpg

SP17BOLT
03-04-2008, 11:26 AM
This is San Diego. Go Padres!

Dodgers blow!

xTENSEx
03-04-2008, 11:49 AM
lost animals doggers lol

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 02:11 PM
This is San Diego. Go Padres!

Dodgers blow!

Tell that to all the "out of towners" who are Charger fans :p

leftyinthepen
03-04-2008, 02:13 PM
This is San Diego. Go Padres!

Dodgers blow!

that means i should be rooting for the cards and d-backs.....no freakin thanks

SP17BOLT
03-04-2008, 02:17 PM
Tell that to all the "out of towners" who are Charger fans :p

Why making this thread? :rolleyes:

SP17BOLT
03-04-2008, 02:22 PM
that means i should be rooting for the cards and d-backs.....no freakin thanks

I'm very sorry. I meant to say, this is Friars General Discussions. Go Padres. :)

SuperMatt
03-04-2008, 02:23 PM
that means i should be rooting for the cards and d-backs.....no freakin thanks

Nah, it's more like you shouldn't go onto a Cardinals board and post in the D-Backs section "Where's the Padres section???"

:D

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 05:26 PM
Why making this thread? :rolleyes:

Off season boredom......plus I was confused when I saw a Friar section on the Charger forum http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 05:27 PM
Nah, it's more like you shouldn't go onto a Cardinals board and post in the D-Backs section "Where's the Padres section???"

:D

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Why is there even a Baseball section on a Football forum? I thought that was what the "off Topic" section was for :confused:

Jubilation T. Cornpone
03-04-2008, 06:21 PM
Whereís the Dodgers section?
Who cares.
I was a Giants fan until the Padres followed the Chargers into existence.
Now, I donít follow the Giants, much less the Dodgers.
I mean, I see the need to have other teams in our division, so as to have someone to beat.
But the Dodgers?
I havenít sunk that low yet. (and I am frequently one step below rock bottom)

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 06:56 PM
Is the hate for the Dodgers just pure jealousy?

Jubilation T. Cornpone
03-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Neither, just having fun mimicking the fanatics.

The Dodgers and every other team in baseball except the Padres are non-entities for me, other than being someone for the Padres to play.

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 07:41 PM
Neither, just having fun mimicking the fanatics.

The Dodgers and every other team in baseball except the Padres are non-entities for me, other than being someone for the Padres to play.

That's what I am talking about :Cheers:

SuperMatt
03-04-2008, 09:36 PM
Is the hate for the Dodgers just pure jealousy?


Actually, I think it had more to do with their fanbase, rather than their actual team, lol. Every Dodger fan I know is a jack***. Even the Dodgers fans that are otherwise my friends.

RAWDOGG
03-04-2008, 11:32 PM
Actually, I think it had more to do with their fanbase, rather than their actual team, lol. Every Dodger fan I know is a jack***. Even the Dodgers fans that are otherwise my friends.


I know plenty of Padre / Charger fans that are jack ***es also!

I do agree that some of the Dodgers fans are cut from the Raiders mold, I can guarantee you my family and I is far from that type:Beer:

Charger Dodger
03-05-2008, 01:24 AM
What is with the hate with the Dodgers? We're not the Raiders of MLB.

P.S. Pad fans are just jealous.

leftyinthepen
03-05-2008, 09:15 AM
what are we jealous of? i mean, the history of the dodgers is great, but it's just that history....in this day and age of what have you done for me lately, the padres are by far the better franchise....(okay, i know it's like compairing a kick in the nuts, or shoe in the arse, but you get the point)....

what do we have to be jealous of?

RAWDOGG
03-05-2008, 10:02 PM
what are we jealous of? i mean, the history of the dodgers is great, but it's just that history....in this day and age of what have you done for me lately, the padres are by far the better franchise....(okay, i know it's like compairing a kick in the nuts, or shoe in the arse, but you get the point)....

what do we have to be jealous of?

Dodger blue baby :LightsOut:

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-06-2008, 11:59 AM
what are we jealous of? i mean, the history of the dodgers is great, but it's just that history....in this day and age of what have you done for me lately, the padres are by far the better franchise....(okay, i know it's like compairing a kick in the nuts, or shoe in the arse, but you get the point)....

what do we have to be jealous of?

Just that, the history, the legacy of the Dodgers. Starting back in New York, the Rivalry with the Giants dating back 100 years, "Dem Bums", Jackie Robinson, Dodger Town, Sandy Koufax, the multiple Championships from different eras, Dodger Dogs, etc etc.

Hey its not much but right now it's all we got.

And the Dodgers have finished above the Padres in the standings in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006...I would hardly say that lately the Padres are the far better franchise, unless by lately you mean "Last year and last year only".

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 12:05 PM
Just that, the history, the legacy of the Dodgers. Starting back in New York, the Rivalry with the Giants dating back 100 years, "Dem Bums", Jackie Robinson, Dodger Town, Sandy Koufax, the multiple Championships from different eras, Dodger Dogs, etc etc.

Hey its not much but right now it's all we got.

And the Dodgers have finished above the Padres in the standings in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006...I would hardly say that lately the Padres are the far better franchise, unless by lately you mean "Last year and last year only".

You forgot to mention the Padre beloved ex-dodger, Steve Garvey :LightsOut:

Colsrob
03-06-2008, 12:41 PM
Tell that to all the "out of towners" who are Charger fans :p

Many moons ago, when I first chose to follow the Chargers, the Padres were part of the package deal. I'm not real big into Baseball, but when check on "my team" it is the Padres. And remember, this decision was made when the Big Red Machine was just an hour and a half from where I live.

I would fit into the "out of towners" title, but even so, I still kept my loyalty. :)

Bolt Cola
03-06-2008, 01:39 PM
Just that, the history, the legacy of the Dodgers. Starting back in New York, the Rivalry with the Giants dating back 100 years, "Dem Bums", Jackie Robinson, Dodger Town, Sandy Koufax, the multiple Championships from different eras, Dodger Dogs, etc etc.

Hey its not much but right now it's all we got.

And the Dodgers have finished above the Padres in the standings in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006...I would hardly say that lately the Padres are the far better franchise, unless by lately you mean "Last year and last year only".
You might want to check your facts again, The Padres won back to NL West Championships in 05 and 06, and we finished ahead of the Dodgers last year. Check the season series the past 3 years, and i think you will see what is meant by dominating the Dodgers lately.

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 01:55 PM
You might want to check your facts again, The Padres won back to NL West Championships in 05 and 06, and we finished ahead of the Dodgers last year. Check the season series the past 3 years, and i think you will see what is meant by dominating the Dodgers lately.

All of which means nothing if you can't get past that first round http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Bolt Cola
03-06-2008, 02:00 PM
All of which means nothing if you can't get past that first round http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
how'd the doggies do in the playoffs those seasons???:layup

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 02:09 PM
how'd the doggies do in the playoffs those seasons???:layup

The same or better then the Pudders

SD4Life
03-06-2008, 02:27 PM
how are you a charger fan and not a padres fan? isn't that the same thing as an OXYMORON

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 02:49 PM
how are you a charger fan and not a padres fan? isn't that the same thing as an OXYMORON

..........uh, yea :rolleyes:

leftyinthepen
03-06-2008, 03:07 PM
All of which means nothing if you can't get past that first round http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

and what exactly here do the dodgers have to be excited about?

SuperMatt
03-06-2008, 03:11 PM
and what exactly here do the dodgers have to be excited about?

Watching Andruw Jones and Joe Torre race to the donut table in the clubhouse.

:D

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 03:19 PM
and what exactly here do the dodgers have to be excited about?

We will also see here in 08 :layup

leftyinthepen
03-06-2008, 03:25 PM
The same or better then the Pudders

well, we know it's not better, because if it was better, than the dodgers would at some time since 1988 have been playing for the NLCS....which i cannot recall them doing.....

so, definitely not better

and what in the world is a pudder?? that's not even cute enough to smile at

leftyinthepen
03-06-2008, 03:27 PM
We will also see here in 08 :layup

wait, are we talking about 08, or the years preceding 08?

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 04:03 PM
wait, are we talking about 08, or the years preceding 08?

We can talk both.......

Until the Padres get a owner that has (or spends) money they will never go anywhere.....that is a sad fact being a Padre fan.

The last couple of years the Padres have been good with no name players, IMO if the jackass owner ponied up a bit they could have been serious contenders the last few years

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-06-2008, 05:11 PM
You might want to check your facts again, The Padres won back to NL West Championships in 05 and 06, and we finished ahead of the Dodgers last year. Check the season series the past 3 years, and i think you will see what is meant by dominating the Dodgers lately.

Well that's my bad, the Dodgers and the Padres actually had the SAME record in 2006, the particular standings I was looking at had them listed first, but you are right the Pads won the division, presumably by virtue of a better division record or something.

Either way, again I'd argue with the term "dominating", but its semantics.

RAWDOGG
03-06-2008, 07:03 PM
I am excited about Dodger baseball this year, first time in awhile

SuperMatt
03-07-2008, 11:23 AM
I am excited about Dodger baseball this year, first time in awhile

Wait a minute. Weren't we just arguing about this?


I told you the Dodgers have sucked!

:D

RAWDOGG
03-07-2008, 12:19 PM
Wait a minute. Weren't we just arguing about this?


I told you the Dodgers have sucked!

:D

How can you say they sucked while for the last few years they have had virtually the same record as the Padres :confused:

They have a fairly young team with some talent that is stepping up from their farm teams. Good pitching crew and now a HOF coach.........How could you not be excited?

Bolt Cola
03-07-2008, 01:49 PM
How can you say they sucked while for the last few years they have had virtually the same record as the Padres :confused:

They have a fairly young team with some talent that is stepping up from their farm teams. Good pitching crew and now a HOF coach.........How could you not be excited?

Virtually the same??
Padres last 3 seasons 259-228 Dodgers 241-245

keep drinking that Kool-Aid and remembering the Eighties

RAWDOGG
03-07-2008, 02:56 PM
Virtually the same??
Padres last 3 seasons 259-228 Dodgers 241-245

keep drinking that Kool-Aid and remembering the Eighties

SInce 2003 Dodgers are 419-391 the Padres are 410-401, does not seem like "in this day and age of what have you done for me lately, the padres are by far the better franchise" :confused:

I would guess and say since 1990 to 2008 the Dodgers still have more W's then the Pudders :LightsOut:

dekkerbasser
03-07-2008, 02:56 PM
I am excited about Dodger baseball this year, first time in awhile

You're setting yourself up for disappointment.

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-07-2008, 05:09 PM
Virtually the same??
Padres last 3 seasons 259-228 Dodgers 241-245

keep drinking that Kool-Aid and remembering the Eighties

So that's a 4.6 game difference per season, i.e. for 162 games.

Not much of a difference if you ask me.

Why remember just the 80's when we can also remember the 90's, where the Dodgers finished ahead of the Padres 7 out of 10 years (and one of those other 3 years they finished 1 whole game behind), as well as the early part of the 2000's, when they finished the first 5 years of the decade ahead of the Padres?

Oh, it must be because of the World Series win in the 80's...I get it!

RAWDOGG
03-07-2008, 05:42 PM
A few decent years in Padre land and they want to try and bring up history?? :p

Bolt Cola
03-07-2008, 09:26 PM
So that's a 4.6 game difference per season, i.e. for 162 games.

Not much of a difference if you ask me.

Why remember just the 80's when we can also remember the 90's, where the Dodgers finished ahead of the Padres 7 out of 10 years (and one of those other 3 years they finished 1 whole game behind), as well as the early part of the 2000's, when they finished the first 5 years of the decade ahead of the Padres?

Oh, it must be because of the World Series win in the 80's...I get it!

i was responding too this
the last few years they have had virtually the same record as the Padres

but if you guys want to enlighten me on something your dodgers will do this year, that will make me think the dodgers will be much improved from last year talk about it, Joe Torre and Andruw Jones...who besides Penny is gonna pitch? i've yet to see any dodgers fans show me why the team is gonna be good

RAWDOGG
03-07-2008, 09:57 PM
i was responding too this


but if you guys want to enlighten me on something your dodgers will do this year, that will make me think the dodgers will be much improved from last year talk about it, Joe Torre and Andruw Jones...who besides Penny is gonna pitch? i've yet to see any dodgers fans show me why the team is gonna be good

The Dodgers are going to be good, becuase they have a solid bullpen (much like the Padres). However the difference between the teams is on the offensive side of the ball........The Dodgers IMO have much more batting threats then the always defunked Padre batting attack.

Now your turn...... http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

SuperMatt
03-08-2008, 01:53 AM
The Dodgers are going to be good, becuase they have a solid bullpen (much like the Padres). However the difference between the teams is on the offensive side of the ball........The Dodgers IMO have much more batting threats then the always defunked Padre batting attack.

Now your turn...... http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif


Funny that the Dodgers hit so much more than the Pads. A quick check of 2007 has the Dodgers at 735 runs in 162 games (4.537 per game) and the Pads at 741 in 163 games (4.546 per game).

Amazing the difference in production there...ain't it?

RAWDOGG
03-08-2008, 12:03 PM
Funny that the Dodgers hit so much more than the Pads. A quick check of 2007 has the Dodgers at 735 runs in 162 games (4.537 per game) and the Pads at 741 in 163 games (4.546 per game).

Amazing the difference in production there...ain't it?

Do you have a link?

David110
03-08-2008, 12:49 PM
And the winner of the 2008 National League west :LightsOut:

Wow, should i leave this one alone?

David110
03-08-2008, 12:54 PM
Just that, the history, the legacy of the Dodgers. Starting back in New York, the Rivalry with the Giants dating back 100 years, "Dem Bums", Jackie Robinson, Dodger Town, Sandy Koufax, the multiple Championships from different eras, Dodger Dogs, etc etc.

Hey its not much but right now it's all we got.

And the Dodgers have finished above the Padres in the standings in 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2006...I would hardly say that lately the Padres are the far better franchise, unless by lately you mean "Last year and last year only".


2006?? Pads won the division that year.

David110
03-08-2008, 12:55 PM
The same or better then the Pudders

Same or better???

David110
03-08-2008, 12:56 PM
We can talk both.......

Until the Padres get a owner that has (or spends) money they will never go anywhere.....that is a sad fact being a Padre fan.

The last couple of years the Padres have been good with no name players, IMO if the jackass owner ponied up a bit they could have been serious contenders the last few years


And McCourt is better?? He still has debts in Boston to take care of and he had to take a LOAN to buy the Dodgers.

David110
03-08-2008, 12:57 PM
Well that's my bad, the Dodgers and the Padres actually had the SAME record in 2006, the particular standings I was looking at had them listed first, but you are right the Pads won the division, presumably by virtue of a better division record or something.

Either way, again I'd argue with the term "dominating", but its semantics.

The Pads won the division by beating the Dodgers in the season series 12-5

SuperMatt
03-08-2008, 01:39 PM
Do you have a link?



http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/historical/team_stats.jsp?statType=1&HS=true&Submit=Submit&groupByTeam=true&baseballScope=mlb&timeSubFrame=2007&sortByStat=R

RAWDOGG
03-08-2008, 02:40 PM
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/historical/team_stats.jsp?statType=1&HS=true&Submit=Submit&groupByTeam=true&baseballScope=mlb&timeSubFrame=2007&sortByStat=R

Thanks!
Look at hits......Dodgers 9th, Padres 27th

RAWDOGG
03-08-2008, 03:11 PM
Dodgers had a pretty damn good offensive outing today

Bolt Cola
03-08-2008, 03:42 PM
The Dodgers are going to be good, becuase they have a solid bullpen (much like the Padres). However the difference between the teams is on the offensive side of the ball........The Dodgers IMO have much more batting threats then the always defunked Padre batting attack.

Now your turn...... http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif
in your opinion thats all fine and dandy...but you still didnt name anyone.

Peavy, Young, Maddux as our top 3 starters....Peavy was a CY Young winner and led the NL in Wins, Strikeouts and ERA. Young was well on his way to the Cy Young before he got hurt and still had a great Year, and Maddux has been good for 12 or so wins for like 15 years now. Our bullpen is solid from the 7th inning on with Meredith, Bell and the all time saves leader in Hoffman( sure look at the last 2 games) but dont forget the save percentage and the 40+ he got before that. We have changed three positions from last year. 2B Iguchi is definitely an Upgrade from Marcus Giles. CF, Edmonds and Cameron are basically the same type of Player, Gold Glove Outfielders with some Pop....Cameron is also missing out the first 25 games this year due to suspension, but Edmonds is getting older so I'd call this pretty much a wash. And LF, Hairston hit 8 HR for us in 87 at bats last year, definitely an upgrade from what we had with Sledge and Cruz last year. SO we have improved our club at two positions and basically remain the same at all of the others. We finished in third and missed the playoffs on a play where Holliday still hasn't touched home plate. We also finished ahead of the 4th place Dodgers. So now its your turn to show me how your Dodgers have improved enough to get past us.

David110
03-08-2008, 06:23 PM
Dodgers had a pretty damn good offensive outing today


On what their 6th ST game?

SuperMatt
03-08-2008, 06:34 PM
Thanks!
Look at hits......Dodgers 9th, Padres 27th


With 140 more hits than the Padres the Dodgers scored 6 less runs?

Good thing games are decided by runs, not hits.

;)

David110
03-08-2008, 06:43 PM
I don't get it. Why does poeple think Joe torre will be the savior of the Dodgers?? As a National League manager, he has a sub-500 record with 1 division title. As we all know, NL baseball and AL baseball is totally different. We'll see though.

David110
03-08-2008, 06:48 PM
Ouch....

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2008/news/story?id=3283179

RAWDOGG
03-08-2008, 07:03 PM
in your opinion thats all fine and dandy...but you still didnt name anyone.

Peavy, Young, Maddux as our top 3 starters....Peavy was a CY Young winner and led the NL in Wins, Strikeouts and ERA. Young was well on his way to the Cy Young before he got hurt and still had a great Year, and Maddux has been good for 12 or so wins for like 15 years now. Our bullpen is solid from the 7th inning on with Meredith, Bell and the all time saves leader in Hoffman( sure look at the last 2 games) but dont forget the save percentage and the 40+ he got before that. We have changed three positions from last year. 2B Iguchi is definitely an Upgrade from Marcus Giles. CF, Edmonds and Cameron are basically the same type of Player, Gold Glove Outfielders with some Pop....Cameron is also missing out the first 25 games this year due to suspension, but Edmonds is getting older so I'd call this pretty much a wash. And LF, Hairston hit 8 HR for us in 87 at bats last year, definitely an upgrade from what we had with Sledge and Cruz last year. SO we have improved our club at two positions and basically remain the same at all of the others. We finished in third and missed the playoffs on a play where Holliday still hasn't touched home plate. We also finished ahead of the 4th place Dodgers. So now its your turn to show me how your Dodgers have improved enough to get past us.


The Dodgers have Penny (whos is just as good as Peavy) Lowe, Broxton, Billingsley, Saito, and hopefully a healthy Schmidt

David110
03-08-2008, 08:16 PM
The Dodgers have Penny (whos is just as good as Peavy)

The whole world is laughing at you right now. Thanks for the good one.

RAWDOGG
03-08-2008, 08:57 PM
The whole world is laughing at you right now. Thanks for the good one.

Care to explain??

Are are you just going to continue to post nonsense withou supporting facts.........

BTW we have all been laughing at you :LightsOut:

David110
03-09-2008, 11:28 AM
Care to explain??

Are are you just going to continue to post nonsense withou supporting facts.........:

You made the assesment that Penny is better the Peavy. You are the one who needs to put up the stats, not me. You made a claim, now back it up. but Peavy did win the Triple Crown and a Cy Young.

BTW we have all been laughing at you :LightsOut:

Nice one. Did you ask a 6 year old for help on this one?

RAWDOGG
03-09-2008, 11:43 AM
You made the assesment that Penny is better the Peavy. You are the one who needs to put up the stats, not me. You made a claim, now back it up. but Peavy did win the Triple Crown and a Cy Young.



Nice one. Did you ask a 6 year old for help on this one?

Are you sjure you read my post correctly?? :rolleyes:

I said Penny is as good as Peavy, not better

Your personaly attacks are old an immature, if you can't handle debating sports without getting you panties in a bundle then stay away

David110
03-09-2008, 12:28 PM
Are you sjure you read my post correctly?? :rolleyes:

I said Penny is as good as Peavy, not better

Your personaly attacks are old an immature, if you can't handle debating sports without getting you panties in a bundle then stay away

But it's ok for you to do it, right?? In 4 different thread you do the exact same thing. So asking you if you asked a 6 year old for help is insulting, then you have some very thin skin.

Oh and i'm still waiting to see how Penny is as good as Peavy.

RAWDOGG
03-09-2008, 01:18 PM
But it's ok for you to do it, right?? In 4 different thread you do the exact same thing. So asking you if you asked a 6 year old for help is insulting, then you have some very thin skin.

Oh and i'm still waiting to see how Penny is as good as Peavy.

Peavy has a career ERA of 3.31 in 6 years......

Penny has a career ERA of 3.90 in 8 years......

Pretty damn close if you ask me

RAWDOGG
03-21-2008, 10:43 AM
Anyone for a Dodger DOGG?

SuperMatt
03-21-2008, 04:27 PM
Peavy has a career ERA of 3.31 in 6 years......

Penny has a career ERA of 3.90 in 8 years......

Pretty damn close if you ask me


.59 ERA is not a HUUUUUGE margin, but it's still significant.

How many Cy Young awards has Penny won?

Again, not saying Penny is worthless (pun intended), just that he's a rung down on the ladder from the Peav.

:D

I've never had a Dodger Dog, but I know they're famous for their weiners.

RAWDOGG
03-21-2008, 04:58 PM
.59 ERA is not a HUUUUUGE margin, but it's still significant.

How many Cy Young awards has Penny won?

Again, not saying Penny is worthless (pun intended), just that he's a rung down on the ladder from the Peav.

:D

I've never had a Dodger Dog, but I know they're famous for their weiners.

Let's see what Peavy's ERA is in the next two years..........

.59 is not a HHHHHUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE margin, especially considering he has pitched many, many more games

RAWDOGG
03-21-2008, 04:58 PM
.59 ERA is not a HUUUUUGE margin, but it's still significant.

How many Cy Young awards has Penny won?

Again, not saying Penny is worthless (pun intended), just that he's a rung down on the ladder from the Peav.

:D

I've never had a Dodger Dog, but I know they're famous for their BIG weiners.

Fixed it for you :p

C}{ARG3R
03-22-2008, 04:09 AM
Are you sjure you read my post correctly?? :rolleyes:

I said Penny is as good as Peavy, not better

Your personaly attacks are old an immature, if you can't handle debating sports without getting you panties in a bundle then stay away
OMG! Please tell me your kidding. And If your not, then please take a look at these stats and explain to the rest of us why you believe this? Other then being a spotlight homer.

Jake Peavy(6yrs) vs Brad Penny(8yrs)
GS: 172 - 228 Penny Wins!
CG: 5 - 3 Peavy Wins!
SHO: 3 - 2 Peavy Wins!
IP: 1087.1 - 1365.2 Penny Wins!
Hits: 943 - 1366 Peavy Wins!
R: 427 - 636 Peavy Wins!
ER: 400 - 592 Peavy Wins!
HR: 111 - 124 Penny Wins!
BB: 348 - 433 Peavy Wins!
SO: 1090 - 981 Peavy Wins!
W: 76 - 88 Peavy Wins!
L: 51 - 66 Peavy Wins!
ERA: 3.31 - 3.90 Peavy Wins!

There's really no comparison. One is a first ballot HOFer and the other isn't. To be honest, I kind of find it to be a little disrespectful to even mention that guys name in the same sentence as the great Alabama. That dude ain't worthy!

GO FRIARS!!

Vengeance, Inc.
03-22-2008, 08:28 AM
Good luck, Dodger fans. I'm rooting for Torre.

leftyinthepen
03-22-2008, 10:18 AM
the dodgers start their cactus league run here real soon.....

nice to see all NL west teams playing in the cactus league.....

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 08:30 AM
Padres need Gary Templeton back, bad. He was probably the greatest Padre ever to be on that team *chuckles*

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 08:32 AM
OMG! Please tell me your kidding. And If your not, then please take a look at these stats and explain to the rest of us why you believe this? Other then being a spotlight homer.

Jake Peavy(6yrs) vs Brad Penny(8yrs)
GS: 172 - 228 Penny Wins!
CG: 5 - 3 Peavy Wins!
SHO: 3 - 2 Peavy Wins!
IP: 1087.1 - 1365.2 Penny Wins!
Hits: 943 - 1366 Peavy Wins!
R: 427 - 636 Peavy Wins!
ER: 400 - 592 Peavy Wins!
HR: 111 - 124 Penny Wins!
BB: 348 - 433 Peavy Wins!
SO: 1090 - 981 Peavy Wins!
W: 76 - 88 Peavy Wins!
L: 51 - 66 Peavy Wins!
ERA: 3.31 - 3.90 Peavy Wins!

There's really no comparison. One is a first ballot HOFer and the other isn't. To be honest, I kind of find it to be a little disrespectful to even mention that guys name in the same sentence as the great Alabama. That dude ain't worthy!

GO FRIARS!!

Uhhhh, stats or not stats, Hands down, Penny is the better guy. Who went to the WS? ehem. Was it Peavy?

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 08:41 AM
I don't get it. Why does poeple think Joe torre will be the savior of the Dodgers?? As a National League manager, he has a sub-500 record with 1 division title. As we all know, NL baseball and AL baseball is totally different. We'll see though.

You don't get it? What's there not to get? Let me answer that for you then. He's taken the Yanks to playoffs, division titles, WS, since he came aboard NY.

And also, EVERYBODY, I MEAN EVERYONE, predicts dodgers to reign champs in the NL this year. Fasten your seatbelts Pads fans, it's going to be a bumpy ride.

RandomTask
03-23-2008, 09:59 AM
How did Torre do in the National League before going to the Yanks?

Really? I hadn't heard the Dodgers being picked to win the division let alone the NL. Not saying the Padres will but the rest of the West caught up in a hurry

RandomTask
03-23-2008, 10:10 AM
Uhhhh, stats or not stats, Hands down, Penny is the better guy. Who went to the WS? ehem. Was it Peavy?


The World Series he went to 5 years ago? Did he go to the WS with the Dodgers? Brad Penny is a very good pitcher but can have lingering injuries (back, blisters) and bad innings which cause him to blow up. I refer to that as "Bad Penny". When he's on he's dominating. But if he's off...

Has Brad Penny led the league in wins, strikeouts or any major statistical category? Has he won a Cy Young?

Oh well go Chargers!

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 11:27 AM
The World Series he went to 5 years ago? Did he go to the WS with the Dodgers? Brad Penny is a very good pitcher but can have lingering injuries (back, blisters) and bad innings which cause him to blow up. I refer to that as "Bad Penny". When he's on he's dominating. But if he's off...

Has Brad Penny led the league in wins, strikeouts or any major statistical category? Has he won a Cy Young?

Oh well go Chargers!


First of all, don't ever talk down on Torre when you guys have Bud Black as your manager. You guys messed up by giving away Bochy to the Giants.


Second of all, I admit, Torre wasn't all that until he went to the Yanks. But let's be rational here. Who did he exactly have in the 77-81 Mets and let's not forget about the strike during those days.

What about the all so memorable 82-84 Braves? 90-95 Cards who were actually on rebuilding mode during those times.

When he has players that could do their job at their positions and could get hits in and pitchers who have specific weapons they can dispose of, Torre is at his best. He needs players to cooperate with him. Look at all the players he helped groom.

And finally....4 World Series wins. Nuff said.

P.S. Go Chargers!!! :LightsOut:

boltpride515
03-23-2008, 11:35 AM
ooo.. Dont ever talk down to Torre. Okay. The dodgers suck. Dodgers fans act like raider fans. You think because Joe Torre is now your manager, you are going to the playoffs. Oh and the argument for Penny being better than peavy is hilarious. Are you kidding me?


First of all, don't ever talk down on Torre when you guys have Bud Black as your manager. You guys messed up by giving away Bochy to the Giants.


Second of all, I admit, Torre wasn't all that until he went to the Yanks. But let's be rational here. Who did he exactly have in the 77-81 Mets and let's not forget about the strike during those days.

What about the all so memorable 82-84 Braves? 90-95 Cards who were actually on rebuilding mode during those times.

When he has players that could do their job at their positions and could get hits in and pitchers who have specific weapons they can dispose of, Torre is at his best. He needs players to cooperate with him. Look at all the players he helped groom.

And finally....4 World Series wins. Nuff said.

P.S. Go Chargers!!! :LightsOut:

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 11:58 AM
ooo.. Dont ever talk down to Torre. Okay. The dodgers suck. Dodgers fans act like raider fans. You think because Joe Torre is now your manager, you are going to the playoffs. Oh and the argument for Penny being better than peavy is hilarious. Are you kidding me?


My god, don't ever compare us fans to the Raider fans. That's the ultimate insult and I beg to differ. Yankee and Red Sox fans are equivalent to Raider fans actually.

And I said don't ever talk down on Torre when the Pads have Bud Black of all managers. teehee.

C}{ARG3R
03-23-2008, 12:12 PM
Uhhhh, stats or not stats, Hands down, Penny is the better guy. Who went to the WS? ehem. Was it Peavy?

Is that the only thing you can come up with? That's like saying Corey Dillon and Kevin Faulk are better then LT just because they won the super bowl. :nono:

As for Torre, He is going to amount to nothing in the NL West. The Dodgers pockets aren't as deep as the Wankees. What makes you think he can fix that broken team up north when he can't even win with a team that can buy their way into the World Series every year? Joe Torre is overrated. And the only reason people think he's so great is because the Yankees bought that to.

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 12:44 PM
Is that the only thing you can come up with? That's like saying Corey Dillon and Kevin Faulk are better then LT just because they won the super bowl. :nono:

As for Torre, He is going to amount to nothing in the NL West. The Dodgers pockets aren't as deep as the Wankees. What makes you think he can fix that broken team up north when he can't even win with a team that can buy their way into the World Series every year? Joe Torre is overrated. And the only reason people think he's so great is because the Yankees bought that to.

Oh Please! Stop with the hating Pads fans. You guys are lucky you are fellow Charger fans or else i'd be totally uncivilized right about now.

Torre since his managerial debut had managed weak teams with no talent in every position. When he first stepped into the Yankees organization, guess what happened? Oh THATS RIGHT. HE WON THE WORLD SERIES! And soon after that, has taken the Yanks to at least the playoffs in every season.

Look at his record after the Mets. Exactly. Thank you. Guess what the Dodgers have that Pads don't. Talent in the every position. Ouch. :layup

TONE
03-23-2008, 12:53 PM
When the Dodgers do something relevant...maybe they'll get their own section.

:-X


lol when have the Padres done anything " relevent " ?

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 01:00 PM
And why did the Pads change their image from Poop Brown to Blue?

LOL

C}{ARG3R
03-23-2008, 01:19 PM
Look at his record after the Mets. Exactly. Thank you. Guess what the Dodgers have that Pads don't. Talent in the every position. Ouch. :layup

Finishing first in his divisions one time and getting swept 3-0 vs the Cardinals in 15 seasons before joining the Yankees is hardly anything to brag about. But that was a nice try. ;)

Correction: 14 seasons

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 01:32 PM
Finishing first in his divisions one time and getting swept 3-0 vs the Cardinals in 15 seasons before joining the Yankees is hardly anything to brag about. But that was a nice try. ;)

Correction: 14 seasons

Wait, are you talking about Grady Little's and Jim Tracy's tenure? LOL

That has nothing to do with this era. It's a new era.

C}{ARG3R
03-23-2008, 01:36 PM
Wait, are you talking about Grady Little's and Jim Tracy's tenure? LOL

That has nothing to do with this era. It's a new era.

I'm talking about Torre being overrated and you trying to find a way to support the argument that he isn't.

C}{ARG3R
03-23-2008, 01:58 PM
It makes me sick to know that some of my bolt brothers are fans of the team I hate the most!

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 02:02 PM
I'm talking about Torre being overrated and you trying to find a way to support the argument that he isn't.

What is the main reasoning to say that? Because he took a great team to the WS? I don't get it.

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 02:03 PM
It makes me sick to know that some of my bolt brothers are fans of the team I hate the most!

brothers fight and argue sometimes.

David110
03-23-2008, 06:08 PM
You don't get it? What's there not to get? Let me answer that for you then. He's taken the Yanks to playoffs, division titles, WS, since he came aboard NY.

And also, EVERYBODY, I MEAN EVERYONE, predicts dodgers to reign champs in the NL this year. Fasten your seatbelts Pads fans, it's going to be a bumpy ride.


As an NL manager, he only won 1 division title, has a sub .500 record as a NL manager, and got ran out of town in Atlanta and St. Louis.

Charger Dodger
03-23-2008, 07:56 PM
As an NL manager, he only won 1 division title, has a sub .500 record as a NL manager, and got ran out of town in Atlanta and St. Louis.

Ok but answer me this, was he or was he not successful after STL? Was he or was he not successful with players who had actual talent at their positions and offensively?

RandomTask
03-24-2008, 08:15 AM
Ok but answer me this, was he or was he not successful after STL? Was he or was he not successful with players who had actual talent at their positions and offensively?

When he managed an organization with the highest payroll in the league yes he had success. But how do you explain the last 7 years making the playoffs but NOT winning the World Series.

Oh and the last time the Dodgers won the Series was 1988. If your holding on to that you are sounding like a Raiders fan ;) Padres (and the Chargers for that matter) haven't won one yet but I like their chances in the near future.

leftyinthepen
03-24-2008, 09:16 AM
Oh Please! Stop with the hating Pads fans. You guys are lucky you are fellow Charger fans or else i'd be totally uncivilized right about now.

Torre since his managerial debut had managed weak teams with no talent in every position. When he first stepped into the Yankees organization, guess what happened? Oh THATS RIGHT. HE WON THE WORLD SERIES! And soon after that, has taken the Yanks to at least the playoffs in every season.

Look at his record after the Mets. Exactly. Thank you. Guess what the Dodgers have that Pads don't. Talent in the every position. Ouch. :layup

a monkey could have managed those yankee teams and they still would have won the series....

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-24-2008, 01:17 PM
OMG! Please tell me your kidding. And If your not, then please take a look at these stats and explain to the rest of us why you believe this? Other then being a spotlight homer.

Jake Peavy(6yrs) vs Brad Penny(6yrs)
GS: 172 - 175 Penny Wins!
CG: 5 - 2 Peavy Wins!
SHO: 3 - 1 Peavy Wins!
IP: 1087.1 - 1041 Peavy Wins!
Hits: 943 - 1063 Peavy Wins!
R: 427 - 474 Peavy Wins!
ER: 400 - 443 Peavy Wins!
HR: 111 - 96 Penny Wins!
BB: 348 - 320 Penny Wins!
SO: 1090 - 747 Peavy Wins!
W: 76 - 70 Peavy Wins!
L: 51 - 49 Penny Wins!
ERA: 3.31 - 3.90 Peavy wins!

There's really no comparison. One is a first ballot HOFer and the other isn't. To be honest, I kind of find it to be a little disrespectful to even mention that guys name in the same sentence as the great Alabama. That dude ain't worthy!

GO FRIARS!!

Wow, in 2 less years Peavy has given up less runs, hits, homeruns, earned runs, walks, etc, than Penny? Who would have thought than in two less years, he'd have fewer?!

Let's compare SIX YEARS to SIX YEARS, what do you say there champ? Just to even it out a little bit. See above, and when you actually compare the same number of years, the stats are actually pretty close. Nice trick you tried there, but not really fair, now is it? I mean I could compare Jake Peavy's 6 year totals to Sandy Koufax's or Orel Herscheiser's CAREER stats, and it would be clear that Peavy couldn't hold either of thelr jocks, but that wouldn't be fair, now would it?

leftyinthepen
03-24-2008, 01:24 PM
Wow, in 2 less years Peavy has given up less runs, hits, homeruns, earned runs, walks, etc, than Penny? Who would have thought than in two less years, he'd have fewer?!

Let's compare SIX YEARS to SIX YEARS, what do you say there champ? Just to even it out a little bit. See above, and when you actually compare the same number of years, the stats are actually pretty close. Nice trick you tried there, but not really fair, now is it? I mean I could compare Jake Peavy's 6 year totals to Sandy Koufax's or Orel Herscheiser's CAREER stats, and it would be clear that Peavy couldn't hold either of thelr jocks, but that wouldn't be fair, now would it?

now that is true, comparing the 6 years is better than the original, and maybe doing the averages might be even better to projecting who is the better....but to pull out koufax and orel is pretty cheap....no one is saying that peavy is an all time great in the same category as either of those two....

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-24-2008, 05:21 PM
now that is true, comparing the 6 years is better than the original, and maybe doing the averages might be even better to projecting who is the better....but to pull out koufax and orel is pretty cheap....no one is saying that peavy is an all time great in the same category as either of those two....

He said Peavy was a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Cal Ripken Jr. is first ballot. Nolan Ryan is first ballot. Mickey Mantle, Steve Carlton...those are first ballot guys.

Joe DiMaggion wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer. Goose Gossage wasn't, Yogi Berra wasn't, Harmon Kilibrew wasn't,

Since 1936 only 32 guys have made the Hall of Fame on their first ballot. That # may have gone up a few since I'm not sure what the date is on the article I got that info from. But you're telling me Peavy is in that company? Ahead of guys like Clemente, Musial, Spahn, Bob Gibson, Frank Robinson...Based on SIX YEARS of playing?! Please...

I know it wasnt you who said that, but if he can exaggerate to the lengths he did, me bringing up Koufax shouldn't be that big of a deal.

I actually did compare the averages, and they were essentially the same as the 6 year stats i.e Peavy averaged a few less hits, runs, more walks, more home runs, more K's...basically mirrored the 6 year total stats...as would be expected.

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-24-2008, 05:23 PM
How did Torre do in the National League before going to the Yanks?

Really? I hadn't heard the Dodgers being picked to win the division let alone the NL. Not saying the Padres will but the rest of the West caught up in a hurry

What does how Torre did with a completley different team 20 years ago have to do with anything today?

Here's a question for you: How did Norv Turner do in the AFC West before he came to the Chargers?

Whoops. End of discussion.

Charger Dodger
03-24-2008, 05:24 PM
When he managed an organization with the highest payroll in the league yes he had success. But how do you explain the last 7 years making the playoffs but NOT winning the World Series.

Oh and the last time the Dodgers won the Series was 1988. If your holding on to that you are sounding like a Raiders fan ;) Padres (and the Chargers for that matter) haven't won one yet but I like their chances in the near future.


I could see why you Pads fans hate us so much. I mean, when we have the most prestige/history in the NL West, I too would be jealous :p

And don't ever bring the Chargers into this discussion. That's a cheap shot.

Bolt Cola
03-24-2008, 05:44 PM
What does how Torre did with a completley different team 20 years ago have to do with anything today?

Here's a question for you: How did Norv Turner do in the AFC West before he came to the Chargers?

Whoops. End of discussion.
Torre clearly had a much much more talented roster in NY than what you guys are gonna throw out there this year and he couldn't get the job done, He mismanges the bullpen, plus this year he will have to actually make National League decisions that AL Managers don't have to deal with like double switches, pinch hitting for the Pitchers, and having the bullpen guys ready to go when he does make those decisions. So now are you gonna say he's been in the NL before than that brings those teams from 20 years ago into the forefront.

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-24-2008, 05:59 PM
Torre clearly had a much much more talented roster in NY than what you guys are gonna throw out there this year and he couldn't get the job done, He mismanges the bullpen, plus this year he will have to actually make National League decisions that AL Managers don't have to deal with like double switches, pinch hitting for the Pitchers, and having the bullpen guys ready to go when he does make those decisions. So now are you gonna say he's been in the NL before than that brings those teams from 20 years ago into the forefront.

No but I am gonna say that making a double switch isn't exactly splitting the atom, it doesn't take a genius to figure that stuff out, it's not like he's going to be sitting there wracking his brain going "Man, how do I do this again? I totally forgot that I have to pinch hit for my pitcher AGAIN! Why didn't someone tell me!"

I have no idea what your last sentence means. Can you re-state it so that it makes sense? Is it a question or a statement?

Bench coaches.

The point was, bringing up his results from 20 years ago has no bearing whatsoever on what happens this year, just like Norv's lack of success with the Raiders had no bearing on his coaching this year with the Chargers. That past does not affect the present.

Bolt Cola
03-24-2008, 06:20 PM
No but I am gonna say that making a double switch isn't exactly splitting the atom, it doesn't take a genius to figure that stuff out, it's not like he's going to be sitting there wracking his brain going "Man, how do I do this again? I totally forgot that I have to pinch hit for my pitcher AGAIN! Why didn't someone tell me!"

I have no idea what your last sentence means. Can you re-state it so that it makes sense? Is it a question or a statement?

Bench coaches.

The point was, bringing up his results from 20 years ago has no bearing whatsoever on what happens this year, just like Norv's lack of success with the Raiders had no bearing on his coaching this year with the Chargers. That past does not affect the present.
i was trying to stop you from just saying he had been in the NL before so he knows how to do it. his results from 7 years ago also have nothing to do with what happens this year. but a lot of Dodger fans think he is going to raise you're aging aching ballclub to the promised land...i beg to differ

Charger Dodger
03-24-2008, 06:30 PM
Torre clearly had a much much more talented roster in NY than what you guys are gonna throw out there this year and he couldn't get the job done, He mismanges the bullpen, plus this year he will have to actually make National League decisions that AL Managers don't have to deal with like double switches, pinch hitting for the Pitchers, and having the bullpen guys ready to go when he does make those decisions. So now are you gonna say he's been in the NL before than that brings those teams from 20 years ago into the forefront.

First off, he won't have any problems. Dodgers have all the weapons, but the coaches surrounding them weren't doing their job. Torre is known to groom players to be the best they can be. Will Girardi get the same results? Who knows? Season hasn't started yet and i'm sure you guys will eat your words.

And you do realize that our bench is one of the best in the league right? PH/PR is no problem. Verstality is the key to our success.

If our rotation/bullpen can stay healthy, the ML better watch out. Dodgers coming with full force

dekkerbasser
03-24-2008, 07:01 PM
Who's going to the Dodger games next weekend?

I got me some bleacher seats bc they were all sold out of PPasses.

Charger Dodger
03-24-2008, 07:05 PM
Damn, I got to work on opening day. Sucks. I've never missed an opening day. But I got tickets to see Pads get their ass whooped on the 4th.

dekkerbasser
03-24-2008, 07:06 PM
Damn, I got to work on opening day. Sucks. I've never missed an opening day. But I got tickets to see Pads get their ass whooped on the 4th.

We'll see what happens on the 4th. I got tickets for both Fri and Sat games.

I also spent a ridiculous amt of money on my PPasses for opening night on Monday. I couldnt believe the amt. For two of them I paid $50 from Stubhub including all the BS extra charges.

Charger Dodger
03-24-2008, 07:12 PM
That's ridiculous. Is this for opening day only? Seriously, Dodgers need to do something about their parking. And also no tailgating. That's a whole lot of sucks.

C}{ARG3R
03-24-2008, 08:09 PM
Wow, in 2 less years Peavy has given up less runs, hits, homeruns, earned runs, walks, etc, than Penny? Who would have thought than in two less years, he'd have fewer?!

Let's compare SIX YEARS to SIX YEARS, what do you say there champ? Just to even it out a little bit. See above, and when you actually compare the same number of years, the stats are actually pretty close. Nice trick you tried there, but not really fair, now is it? I mean I could compare Jake Peavy's 6 year totals to Sandy Koufax's or Orel Herscheiser's CAREER stats, and it would be clear that Peavy couldn't hold either of thelr jocks, but that wouldn't be fair, now would it?

Ok Mr. Bundy, I'll take away Penny's First 2 years of Major League Experience, his first year in the majors which was one of his worst years statistically, and then compare and see what we come up with. Mkay... :)
(Note: I didn't mean to put six years vs six years. It was a simple typing error or brain fart. Thanks for pointing that out.)

Peavy vs Penny
GS: 172 - 175 = Penny 3 more Games Started
CG: 5 - 2 = Peavy Wins! - 3 more Complete Games
SHO: 3 - 1 = Peavy Wins! - 2 more Shutouts
IP: 1087.1 - 1041 = Peavy Wins! - 46.1 more innings pitched
Hits: 943 - 1063 = Peavy Wins! - 120 Less Hits Allowed
R: 427 - 474 = Peavy Wins! - 47 Less Runs Allowed
ER: 400 - 450 = Peavy Wins! - 50 Less Earned Runs Allowed
HR: 111 - 96 = Penny Wins! - 15 less Home Runs Allowed
BB: 348 - 319 = Penny Wins! - 29 Less Walks
SO: 1090 - 747 = Peavy Wins BIG TIME! - with a WHOPPING 343 More Strikeouts!
W: 76 - 70 = Peavy Wins! - 6 More Wins
L: 51 - 49 = Penny wins! - 2 Less Loses
ERA: 3.31 - 3.90 = (Not sure on how to recalculate this one so until someone can correct this) Peavy Wins!

Hmm.. Those stats don't look very even to me except maybe Games Started, (which you asked to make even) Complete Games, Shutouts, Walks, and Wins and Losses.

The ones that are clearly not even are all Peavy wins except Home Runs Allowed. And I don't deny that Peavy gives up a lot of HRs. That's what power pitchers do. No big deal...
But with 46.1 innings pitched more in about the same amount of games started (Penny with 3 more games started), I would have to say that's not even close. Not to mention 120 less hits allowed, 47 less runs allowed 50 less earned runs and 343 more strike outs. WOW! That's just not even as close as you think. If anything it hurt your argument.

As for comparing Peavy's stats with Sandy Koufax and Orel Herscheiser's stats I'll leave that up to you. But I wouldn't waste my time if I were you.

C}{ARG3R
03-24-2008, 08:16 PM
Damn, I got to work on opening day. Sucks. I've never missed an opening day. But I got tickets to see Pads get their ass whooped on the 4th.
Hey I'm going on the 4th too! :LightsOut: That's by B-day

Charger Dodger
03-24-2008, 08:19 PM
Hey I'm going on the 4th too! :LightsOut: That's by B-day

Cool beans! I got field for that game. Cost me a pretty penny, but it'll be worth it, hopefully.

I wonder who's starting pitchers for that game.

C}{ARG3R
03-24-2008, 08:28 PM
What does how Torre did with a completley different team 20 years ago have to do with anything today?

Here's a question for you: How did Norv Turner do in the AFC West before he came to the Chargers?

Whoops. End of discussion.

It has everything to do with today. I was just simply pointing out the fact that now that your boy Torre doesn't manage a team that can buy their way into to World Series every year. What makes you think he can win it the way the Whites Sox or Cardinals won it. His past history tells other wise.

Norv got lucky and landed every head coaches dream job. But you really can't compare the 2 sports. One is more of a team game, and the other isn't. The only thing Torre has to do is sit on his ass and flash signs, and pull pitchers ect...

C}{ARG3R
03-24-2008, 08:30 PM
Cool beans! I got field for that game. Cost me a pretty penny, but it'll be worth it, hopefully.

I wonder who's starting pitchers for that game.

I would imagine it's gonna be the 5th Starter. I got field box sec 116 row 24
BEAT LA!

C}{ARG3R
03-24-2008, 08:40 PM
He said Peavy was a first ballot Hall of Famer.

Cal Ripken Jr. is first ballot. Nolan Ryan is first ballot. Mickey Mantle, Steve Carlton...those are first ballot guys.

Joe DiMaggion wasn't a first ballot Hall of Famer. Goose Gossage wasn't, Yogi Berra wasn't, Harmon Kilibrew wasn't,

Since 1936 only 32 guys have made the Hall of Fame on their first ballot. That # may have gone up a few since I'm not sure what the date is on the article I got that info from. But you're telling me Peavy is in that company? Ahead of guys like Clemente, Musial, Spahn, Bob Gibson, Frank Robinson...Based on SIX YEARS of playing?! Please...

I know it wasnt you who said that, but if he can exaggerate to the lengths he did, me bringing up Koufax shouldn't be that big of a deal.

I actually did compare the averages, and they were essentially the same as the 6 year stats i.e Peavy averaged a few less hits, runs, more walks, more home runs, more K's...basically mirrored the 6 year total stats...as would be expected.
If I remember correctly their were 2 first ballot HOFers last year one of them being MR. Padre himself. So its not uncommon as you make it out to be. And only time will tell if he is a first ballot HOFer but at the pace he's going right now, there is no doubt that that's exactly what he'll be.

RandomTask
03-25-2008, 08:05 AM
What does how Torre did with a completley different team 20 years ago have to do with anything today?

Here's a question for you: How did Norv Turner do in the AFC West before he came to the Chargers?

Whoops. End of discussion.

According to Charger Dodger, Torre is going to put the Dodgers over the top. I respectfully disagree...

RandomTask
03-25-2008, 08:08 AM
I could see why you Pads fans hate us so much. I mean, when we have the most prestige/history in the NL West, I too would be jealous :p

And don't ever bring the Chargers into this discussion. That's a cheap shot.

The Dodgers have the largest payroll in the division yet have not won the division since 2004. Yup I'm jealous of that!

We're on the Chargers message board and your screen name is Charger Dodger. Obviously we're mostly Charger fans here.

RAWDOGG
03-25-2008, 01:52 PM
The Dodgers have the largest payroll in the division yet have not won the division since 2004. Yup I'm jealous of that!

We're on the Chargers message board and your screen name is Charger Dodger. Obviously we're mostly Charger fans here.

I know personally I can claim the Charger my team over any over team I support during the off season (baseball, basketball)

RandomTask
03-25-2008, 04:46 PM
I know personally I can claim the Charger my team over any over team I support during the off season (baseball, basketball)

I think that's something we can all agree on!

http://forum.signonsandiego.com/images/smilies/beer.gif

Charger Dodger
03-25-2008, 05:52 PM
This is true. The Chargers always comes first.

Charger Dodger
03-25-2008, 05:53 PM
The Dodgers have the largest payroll in the division yet have not won the division since 2004. Yup I'm jealous of that!

We're on the Chargers message board and your screen name is Charger Dodger. Obviously we're mostly Charger fans here.


What i'm saying is at least Dodgers have WS titles and pennants, etc to brag about. When Pads win a WS, get back to me on that.:p

RandomTask
03-25-2008, 09:44 PM
How long can you cling to a World Series from 20 years ago?

RAWDOGG
03-25-2008, 10:51 PM
How long can you cling to a World Series from 20 years ago?

It's only good for 20 years............that is why we are going to win the WS this year http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (I'm kidding)

SuperMatt
03-26-2008, 11:37 AM
It's only good for 20 years............that is why we are going to win the WS this year http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif (I'm kidding)

Lol. Good call. If you agree to admit you suck when you don't even make the playoffs this season, I'll allow you to cling to 1988 ONE MORE SEASON.

:D

Charger Dodger
03-26-2008, 03:17 PM
Lol. Good call. If you agree to admit you suck when you don't even make the playoffs this season, I'll allow you to cling to 1988 ONE MORE SEASON.

:D

And what if we just go ahead and win the World Series? I want to know exactly what all the Pads fans will say after that episode.

BuenoExcelente
03-26-2008, 03:20 PM
Hey now. As a rabid Bolts fan AND fan of the Dodgers and Angels, I find this thread offensive and juvenile! You should be ashamed! LOL

RAWDOGG
03-26-2008, 04:38 PM
Lol. Good call. If you agree to admit you suck when you don't even make the playoffs this season, I'll allow you to cling to 1988 ONE MORE SEASON.

:D

What happens if the Pads don't make the playoffs?........nothing to cling too? :p

Charger Dodger
03-26-2008, 05:08 PM
What happens if the Pads don't make the playoffs?........nothing to cling too? :p

Ouch! Come on RAWDOGG, that one is hurtful. After all, these are fellow Chargers. :p:D

RAWDOGG
03-26-2008, 06:15 PM
Ouch! Come on RAWDOGG, that one is hurtful. After all, these are fellow Chargers. :p:D

Hopefully we can all "cling" together to a SB victory in 08 :Cheers:

Charger Dodger
03-26-2008, 07:22 PM
Hopefully we can all "cling" together to a SB victory in 08 :Cheers:

Yes. By that time, baseball will be a nonfactor and so will Padres hopes in becoming a World Series Champ.
:p

leftyinthepen
03-27-2008, 09:37 AM
What happens if the Pads don't make the playoffs?........nothing to cling too? :p

no, we are going to cling to the fact that for every sunday home game our boys get to wear their camo jerseys.....

that's the ticket.....

leftyinthepen
03-27-2008, 09:38 AM
Hopefully we can all "cling" together to a SB victory in 08 :Cheers:

yes, even you dodger lovin, laker homerin'....uhhhh....homers will get a hug for me when that happens :Cheers:

SuperMatt
03-27-2008, 11:26 AM
And what if we just go ahead and win the World Series? I want to know exactly what all the Pads fans will say after that episode.

Oh I'll prolly say something along the lines of, "Even sometimes the blind squirrel bumps into a nut".

All kidding aside, winning a World Series would easily give you bragging rights. But you're not gonna do that. Not with this team.

And for RAWDOGG, if the Padres don't make the playoffs, then hopefully this time Matt Holliday at least touches home plate. :P

leftyinthepen
03-27-2008, 01:35 PM
anyone going to the games in the coliseum? that should be really cool to see.....

RAWDOGG
03-28-2008, 10:39 AM
Oh I'll prolly say something along the lines of, "Even sometimes the blind squirrel bumps into a nut".

All kidding aside, winning a World Series would easily give you bragging rights. But you're not gonna do that. Not with this team.

And for RAWDOGG, if the Padres don't make the playoffs, then hopefully this time Matt Holliday at least touches home plate. :P

Was that before or after Tony Gwynn's son owned Hoffman?

SuperMatt
03-28-2008, 11:01 AM
Was that before or after Tony Gwynn's son owned Hoffman?


After. If we were talking about before, then we'd have to be talking about how Tony Gwynn's brother got the game-winning, division-winning double off some Dodgers hack to help the Padres come from three deep with three to go and finish the season ahead of the Dodgers.

I

SuperMatt
03-28-2008, 11:01 AM
Was that before or after Tony Gwynn's son owned Hoffman?


After. If we were talking about before, then we'd have to be talking about how Tony Gwynn's brother got the game-winning, division-winning double off some Dodgers hack to help the Padres come from three deep with three to go and finish the season ahead of the Dodgers.

I can't wait for the season to really get going so we can have something else to talk about! Lol.

RAWDOGG
03-28-2008, 11:20 AM
After. If we were talking about before, then we'd have to be talking about how Tony Gwynn's brother got the game-winning, division-winning double off some Dodgers hack to help the Padres come from three deep with three to go and finish the season ahead of the Dodgers.

I can't wait for the season to really get going so we can have something else to talk about! Lol.

I know I was just poking fun at you......

SuperMatt
03-28-2008, 11:50 AM
I know I was just poking fun at you......

Likewise. Rubbing some salt in old wounds.

:D

Al "T.D." Bundy
03-28-2008, 12:33 PM
Ok Mr. Bundy, I'll take away Penny's First 2 years of Major League Experience, his first year in the majors which was one of his worst years statistically, and then compare and see what we come up with. Mkay... :)
(Note: I didn't mean to put six years vs six years. It was a simple typing error or brain fart. Thanks for pointing that out.)

Peavy vs Penny
GS: 172 - 175 = Penny 3 more Games Started
CG: 5 - 2 = Peavy Wins! - 3 more Complete Games
SHO: 3 - 1 = Peavy Wins! - 2 more Shutouts
IP: 1087.1 - 1041 = Peavy Wins! - 46.1 more innings pitched
Hits: 943 - 1063 = Peavy Wins! - 120 Less Hits Allowed
R: 427 - 474 = Peavy Wins! - 47 Less Runs Allowed
ER: 400 - 450 = Peavy Wins! - 50 Less Earned Runs Allowed
HR: 111 - 96 = Penny Wins! - 15 less Home Runs Allowed
BB: 348 - 319 = Penny Wins! - 29 Less Walks
SO: 1090 - 747 = Peavy Wins BIG TIME! - with a WHOPPING 343 More Strikeouts!
W: 76 - 70 = Peavy Wins! - 6 More Wins
L: 51 - 49 = Penny wins! - 2 Less Loses
ERA: 3.31 - 3.90 = (Not sure on how to recalculate this one so until someone can correct this) Peavy Wins!

Hmm.. Those stats don't look very even to me except maybe Games Started, (which you asked to make even) Complete Games, Shutouts, Walks, and Wins and Losses.

The ones that are clearly not even are all Peavy wins except Home Runs Allowed. And I don't deny that Peavy gives up a lot of HRs. That's what power pitchers do. No big deal...
But with 46.1 innings pitched more in about the same amount of games started (Penny with 3 more games started), I would have to say that's not even close. Not to mention 120 less hits allowed, 47 less runs allowed 50 less earned runs and 343 more strike outs. WOW! That's just not even as close as you think. If anything it hurt your argument.

As for comparing Peavy's stats with Sandy Koufax and Orel Herscheiser's stats I'll leave that up to you. But I wouldn't waste my time if I were you.

I never said they were EVEN, I said they were close. We're talking about 6 years here. That's 20 hits a year, or less than 1 hit per game started. 8 runs a year difference. 1 more win a year, big deal. 4 less walks a year, these are insignificant over the course of an entire season.

Funny how you try to diminish the role of home runs but make such a big deal out of strikeouts. Yes Peavy gets a lot more strikeouts than Penny, never denied that. I never said that Penny was as good as Peavy either, someone else did, I just pointed out that the differences weren't as big as some people seem to think.

Your first ballot hall of fame comment was just dumb, sorry, and there's no way to back out of it. That's a pretty big *IF* as far as if he continues. Now you are comparing his 6 year career to that of Tony Gywnn's accomplishments?! Seriously, Peavy is good, no one denies that, but you're taking it a little too far. He's not a HOF'er yet. Just relax and let him do his thing and we'll see at the end of his career. You're saying he's in the same company as Maddux or Clemens (First year HOF guys--obviously not taking into account Clemens steroids issues)? No way whatsoever to make that comparison.

BoltsPride
03-28-2008, 01:32 PM
With the Dodgers 50 years in LA celebration game being played at the coliseum, it reminded me about some old Dodgers tickets I have stashed away in my sports collection, so i dug them out to take a look, and they are tickets from the 1959 world series played at the coliseum. The price for a ticket to the game back then was a ridiculous $7.00 bucks

Charger Dodger
03-28-2008, 08:00 PM
With the Dodgers 50 years in LA celebration game being played at the coliseum, it reminded me about some old Dodgers tickets I have stashed away in my sports collection, so i dug them out to take a look, and they are tickets from the 1959 world series played at the coliseum. The price for a ticket to the game back then was a ridiculous $7.00 bucks


Gee, I wonder how much parking passes were back then? Now it's like 25 bucks or more and it's all assigned and no tailgate, no beer bottles, no freedom. I hate what baseball has become but it is what it is. I blame it all on inflation.

BoltsPride
03-29-2008, 06:52 AM
Gee, I wonder how much parking passes were back then? Now it's like 25 bucks or more and it's all assigned and no tailgate, no beer bottles, no freedom. I hate what baseball has become but it is what it is. I blame it all on inflation.
I noticte on the ticket it states the cost is $6.45 with 55 cents for federal tax, I wonder if the feds still get tax from tickets today ?. I also dislike the parking lot rules about no open tailgating at baseball games. Guess it's because I have been spoiled on the freedom we have at football games. I was a kid in the 60's, so I also found baseball cards for players on the Washington Senators, and Seattle Pilots. I forgot about those teams. I will have to dig out the Padres cards from back then too. Did not Willie McCovey play a season or two for the Pads ?

Charger Dodger
03-29-2008, 04:35 PM
I noticte on the ticket it states the cost is $6.45 with 55 cents for federal tax, I wonder if the feds still get tax from tickets today ?. I also dislike the parking lot rules about no open tailgating at baseball games. Guess it's because I have been spoiled on the freedom we have at football games. I was a kid in the 60's, so I also found baseball cards for players on the Washington Senators, and Seattle Pilots. I forgot about those teams. I will have to dig out the Padres cards from back then too. Did not Willie McCovey play a season or two for the Pads ?

Yeah, but he was not all that memorable at the Pads.

But 6 bucks for parking passes? Clearly the thing of the past. I really wish baseball was like it was back in the old days.

RAWDOGG
03-31-2008, 05:55 PM
Nice W today for the guys in Blue.......skunked the Gnats!

56lightsout56
03-31-2008, 06:21 PM
Nice W today for the guys in Blue.......skunked the Gnats!

nie win over that Beer League club by the Bay.

RAWDOGG
03-31-2008, 08:30 PM
A W is a W..........I'll take it any way I can get'em!

David110
03-31-2008, 10:42 PM
Everybody is going to beat the Giants. Which is a good thing.

On other news, Peavy was dominate.....again

C}{ARG3R
04-01-2008, 08:43 AM
Everybody is going to beat the Giants. Which is a good thing.

On other news, Peavy was dominate.....again

He struggled a bit in the first but after that it was the Alabama we all know and love. :LightsOut:

leftyinthepen
04-01-2008, 09:25 AM
imagine being an east coast team, taking a west coast raodie with stops in AZ, SD, and LA.....and in AZ you have to face webb, SD you get peavy, and LA you get penny???

man, that would suck

dekkerbasser
04-01-2008, 11:20 AM
imagine being an east coast team, taking a west coast raodie with stops in AZ, SD, and LA.....and in AZ you have to face webb, SD you get peavy, and LA you get penny???

man, that would suck

No sympathy from me...

leftyinthepen
04-01-2008, 11:22 AM
can't wait to see the first peavy/penny/webb matchup.....

this division is going to be fun to watch....even the giants, as bad as they are, have good pitching.....

go pads.....

1 down, 161 to go!

C}{ARG3R
04-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Peavy vs Penny this Saturday. Peavy's gonna kick his ass! :D

leftyinthepen
04-01-2008, 01:55 PM
Peavy vs Penny this Saturday. Peavy's gonna kick his ass! :D

fox game of the week too, isn't it?

but i think it is loaiza v. peavy

C}{ARG3R
04-01-2008, 02:30 PM
fox game of the week too, isn't it?

but i think it is loaiza v. peavy
ahh man! Your right, Them dirty dogs have a day off on Thursday. That's ok CY won't have any problems taking his place. :LightsOut:

C}{ARG3R
04-02-2008, 08:06 AM
During the game last night they said Penny will be pitching Saturday, and Saturday is when Peavy is scheduled to pitch, so looks like Peavy will get his chance to make change out of a penny. :LightsOut:

Charger Dodger
04-02-2008, 09:08 AM
2 in a row Dodger fans! Exciting game yesterday. Dumb ass Giants didn't even see fast furcal coming from 2nd. haha@Giants. What a mess!

Charger Dodger
04-02-2008, 09:09 AM
During the game last night they said Penny will be pitching Saturday, and Saturday is when Peavy is scheduled to pitch, so looks like Peavy will get his chance to make change out of a penny. :LightsOut:

Dammit! I got tickets to Friday's opener! Anybody want to trade? I got field.

C}{ARG3R
04-03-2008, 08:59 AM
Dammit! I got tickets to Friday's opener! Anybody want to trade? I got field.

I'm in the same boat as you bro. :(

leftyinthepen
04-03-2008, 04:28 PM
updated...penny v. peavy saturday on fox.....

oh boy, this is going to be good

Charger Dodger
04-03-2008, 05:31 PM
Anybody want to trade me? I GOT 2 FIELD SEATS FOR FRIDAY. Trade for decent seats on Sat. PM me!!!

leftyinthepen
04-04-2008, 09:44 AM
Anybody want to trade me? I GOT 2 FIELD SEATS FOR FRIDAY. Trade for decent seats on Sat. PM me!!!

haha...and while your at it, maybe someone will trade that "C" note in their pocket for your $20 bill...... :layup *ZING!!!*

RandomTask
04-04-2008, 02:02 PM
I went to pick up tickets at the Petco box office that I ordered on-line for Saturday's game and was told Friday night is pretty much all sold out.

Tycebrew
04-05-2008, 02:32 PM
Hahahahahaha. Penny is getting blasted in the 1st with 6 hits and 4 runs. You suck Penny.

JCDavey
04-05-2008, 03:11 PM
penny aka jemarcus russell

David110
04-05-2008, 04:18 PM
Well you can put this arguement to bed. Peavy is better.

JCDavey
04-05-2008, 04:28 PM
little props to penny for being great after that 1st inning, but with peavy, you make one mistake , that's usually enough to lose to him lately

Bolt Cola
04-05-2008, 04:32 PM
i think that win put Jake at 10-1 all time against the Dodgers maybe you guys should make it a Peavy V. Kuroda matchup from now on. GO PADRES!!!

Tycebrew
04-05-2008, 05:55 PM
Penny is now 0-4 at Petco Park. The big goose-egg.

RAWDOGG
04-06-2008, 07:08 PM
Dodgers took 2 out of 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

Charger Dodger
04-06-2008, 08:12 PM
Dodgers took 2 out of 3!!!!!!!!!!!!

YES! Congrats to our boy Chin lung Hu.

RAWDOGG
04-07-2008, 10:29 AM
Well you can put this arguement to bed. Peavy is better.

I'll give you that.........then you have to give me that the Dodgers are better and the argument can be put to bed

RAWDOGG
04-07-2008, 10:55 AM
Padres Manager Defends Peavy Amid Allegations Of Cheating




SAN DIEGO -- Padres manager Bud Black defended Jake Peavy on Sunday, saying a dark substance on his right hand after a game against the Dodgers on Saturday was just a mix of dirt and rosin.


The sports Web site www.thebiglead.com (http://www.thebiglead.com) posted images Sunday it said were sent by a reader after Peavy tossed a two-hitter in a 4-1 win over Los Angeles. The images, purportedly still frame shots from a TV broadcast of the game, show a dark substance on Peavy's right thumb, index and middle fingers. "When you play baseball, your hands get dirty," Black said Sunday. "He had dirty hands. Trying to keep his palms and fingers dry, you apply rosin and dirt. Rosin is a sticky substance, and as often as he goes to the rosin bag, as often as he goes to the dirt to sop up moisture, your hands get dirty. "I don't think there is anything to it. Modern cameras can pick up a dirty hand." Peavy (2-0) has allowed just one run in 16 innings over two starts this year. The right-hander won the NL Cy Young Award last season. "There's nothing on my hands that's not supposed to be," Peavy told the San Diego Union-Tribune for a blog entry on its Web site. "I thought it was funny that it was such a big deal. I've got no problems with anytime anybody needs to check me."

leftyinthepen
04-07-2008, 11:31 AM
Padres Manager Defends Peavy Amid Allegations Of Cheating




SAN DIEGO -- Padres manager Bud Black defended Jake Peavy on Sunday, saying a dark substance on his right hand after a game against the Dodgers on Saturday was just a mix of dirt and rosin.


The sports Web site www.thebiglead.com posted images Sunday it said were sent by a reader after Peavy tossed a two-hitter in a 4-1 win over Los Angeles. The images, purportedly still frame shots from a TV broadcast of the game, show a dark substance on Peavy's right thumb, index and middle fingers.
"When you play baseball, your hands get dirty," Black said Sunday. "He had dirty hands. Trying to keep his palms and fingers dry, you apply rosin and dirt. Rosin is a sticky substance, and as often as he goes to the rosin bag, as often as he goes to the dirt to sop up moisture, your hands get dirty. IBSYS.ad.AdManager.registerPosition({"iframe": false,"addlSz": "","element": "ad_N65303D61.2DDF","interstitials": false,"beginDate": "","endDate": "","getSect": "yes","name": "square","qString": "","width": "300","height": "250","section": "","useId": "15812539","interactive": false,"useSameCategory": false,"topic": "","swSectionRoot": "","useZone": "","type": "DOM"});dcmaxversion = 8dcminversion = 5DoOn Error Resume Nextplugin = (IsObject(CreateObject("ShockwaveFlash.ShockwaveFlash." & dcmaxversion & "")))If plugin = true Then Exit Dodcmaxversion = dcmaxversion - 1Loop While dcmaxversion >= dcminversion
"I don't think there is anything to it. Modern cameras can pick up a dirty hand."
Peavy (2-0) has allowed just one run in 16 innings over two starts this year. The right-hander won the NL Cy Young Award last season.
"There's nothing on my hands that's not supposed to be," Peavy told the San Diego Union-Tribune for a blog entry on its Web site. "I thought it was funny that it was such a big deal. I've got no problems with anytime anybody needs to check me."

yup, that proves it...peavy is a cheater....put an * next to his Cy Young from last year, and all he has ever accomplished.....

big deal about nothing...someone is always trying to knock someone down from their perch

Charger Dodger
04-07-2008, 01:17 PM
Padres Manager Defends Peavy Amid Allegations Of Cheating




SAN DIEGO -- Padres manager Bud Black defended Jake Peavy on Sunday, saying a dark substance on his right hand after a game against the Dodgers on Saturday was just a mix of dirt and rosin.


The sports Web site www.thebiglead.com (http://www.thebiglead.com) posted images Sunday it said were sent by a reader after Peavy tossed a two-hitter in a 4-1 win over Los Angeles. The images, purportedly still frame shots from a TV broadcast of the game, show a dark substance on Peavy's right thumb, index and middle fingers. "When you play baseball, your hands get dirty," Black said Sunday. "He had dirty hands. Trying to keep his palms and fingers dry, you apply rosin and dirt. Rosin is a sticky substance, and as often as he goes to the rosin bag, as often as he goes to the dirt to sop up moisture, your hands get dirty. "I don't think there is anything to it. Modern cameras can pick up a dirty hand." Peavy (2-0) has allowed just one run in 16 innings over two starts this year. The right-hander won the NL Cy Young Award last season. "There's nothing on my hands that's not supposed to be," Peavy told the San Diego Union-Tribune for a blog entry on its Web site. "I thought it was funny that it was such a big deal. I've got no problems with anytime anybody needs to check me."


Wow, Peavy should have some dignity and some self respect for the game. What a POS!!!:mad:

leftyinthepen
04-07-2008, 01:45 PM
Wow, Peavy should have some dignity and some self respect for the game. What a POS!!!:mad:

what do you mean a POS?? you mean to tell me that after all this time, after all his dominance, you see dirt on his finger *now*, and claim he has no dignity,self respect or even respect for the game??

Charger Dodger
04-07-2008, 05:29 PM
what do you mean a POS?? you mean to tell me that after all this time, after all his dominance, you see dirt on his finger *now*, and claim he has no dignity,self respect or even respect for the game??

Well maybe all his dominance was because of the substance in his hands. Your pitcher is tainted for life now. Get caught once, that's it. There's 0 tolerance for that type of stuff in baseball. He should know better.

RandomTask
04-07-2008, 06:12 PM
You mean like Merriman? It cuts both ways Bolt brother...

Charger Dodger
04-07-2008, 07:00 PM
You mean like Merriman? It cuts both ways Bolt brother...

Yeah, but where is the proof that he took roids? There is no proof. You should know that my bolt brotha.

GOBOLTZLT21
04-07-2008, 10:49 PM
i wonder if he had the substance when he pitched those games when he had 16 STRIKEOUTS!!! 9-1 against the dodgers

SP17BOLT
04-08-2008, 12:27 AM
i wonder if he had the substance when he pitched those games when he had 16 STRIKEOUTS!!! 9-1 against the dodgers

:rolleyes:... Peavy is the best!:LightsOut:

Charger Dodger
04-08-2008, 01:42 AM
i wonder if he had the substance when he pitched those games when he had 16 STRIKEOUTS!!! 9-1 against the dodgers

if you're implying that he did, then yes, I agree with you

RandomTask
04-08-2008, 08:03 AM
Yeah, but where is the proof that he took roids? There is no proof. You should know that my bolt brotha.

You mean besides the positive test and the suspension?

Jake has not been accused of anything by MLB other than in the press. If he has a good outing on Friday night and the umps undress him before during and after the game will that be enough? If he struggles then it was all about the "substance"? It's not that black and white.

Look this division is going to come down to the last month of the season and I think these teams are evenly matched. It might come down to who has the better division record like in '06. That's why the head to heads are so important. It was a good series this weekend - each team dominated the other in the first 2 games and the rubber game could have gone either way. I'm hoping the Pads can return the favor this weekend. I'm going up to Dodger Stadium on Saturday night.

leftyinthepen
04-08-2008, 10:26 AM
Well maybe all his dominance was because of the substance in his hands. Your pitcher is tainted for life now. Get caught once, that's it. There's 0 tolerance for that type of stuff in baseball. He should know better.

if you have to look for these excuses as to why your team cannot hit against him, keep going....it says more about you than jake....have at it though...because there has to be a different *excuse* as to why this particular pitcher *dominates* the dodgers so much.....it can't be that he is actually that good? could it>?

dekkerbasser
04-08-2008, 10:30 AM
Well maybe all his dominance was because of the substance in his hands. Your pitcher is tainted for life now. Get caught once, that's it. There's 0 tolerance for that type of stuff in baseball. He should know better.

Are you serious? C'mon, now. He should know better? What is better? Dont let your jealously dictate how quickly you jump on the anti-Peavy bandwagon.

GOBOLTZLT21
04-08-2008, 02:41 PM
if you're implying that he did, then yes, I agree with you

no, just reminding you what hes done in his career

ChargerSmokey
04-08-2008, 03:39 PM
dodgerdogs Suck!

leftyinthepen
04-08-2008, 04:02 PM
i hope that when jake 2-hits the dodgers again this friday he walks off after every inning showing his hand to the crowd, and just smiling.....

hell, if he had clean hands that day, he probably would have no-hit the dodgers.... they are lucky he didn't wash his hands in between innings....at least the dodgers were able to get a couple of hits and a run....

Charger Dodger
04-08-2008, 04:34 PM
Hey guys, get back to me when your win ratio on us is at least 50%. Right about now you guys already lost 2 out of 3 with us. Don't be so dependant on only 1 pos pitcher. He's not going to take you to the WS by himself, regardless of his cheating.

GOBOLTZLT21
04-08-2008, 07:02 PM
and neither will brad penny

David110
04-08-2008, 07:26 PM
Hey guys, get back to me when your win ratio on us is at least 50%. Right about now you guys already lost 2 out of 3 with us. Don't be so dependant on only 1 pos pitcher. He's not going to take you to the WS by himself, regardless of his cheating.


"Hey guys, get back to me when your win ratio on us is at least 50%"

This is a clear sign when someone is losing a debate. You always go to this line. Anyways....

Peavy is 9-1 against the Dodgers, lifetime. So are you saying that he was using pine tar?? What about Adam Eaton?? He dominated the Dodgers as well. Did he use pine tar?? Or what about Orel Hershiser??? Did he use pine tar during th '88 post season?? Jay Howell was busted using pine tar in the 88 NLCS? Who says Hershiser didn't dabble with that stuff??

RAWDOGG
06-07-2008, 08:58 PM
How about those Dodgers taking 2 from the Cubs?

No Thats Not It
06-07-2008, 09:05 PM
How about those Dodgers taking 2 from the Cubs?
Why do you care about the Dodgers? Go Padres!!!!

David110
06-07-2008, 11:13 PM
How about those Dodgers taking 2 from the Cubs?

Still 2 games under .500

Boltman2004
06-08-2008, 12:50 AM
How about those Dodgers taking 2 from the Cubs?

Don't get too carried away, this Cubs team is terrible away from Wrigley.

RAWDOGG
06-10-2008, 02:32 PM
Going to the game tonight, sitting right behind home plate

GO DODGERS!

Bolt Cola
06-10-2008, 03:08 PM
Going to the game tonight, sitting right behind home plate

GO DODGERS!

im in left field row 2 ...Beat L.A.

RAWDOGG
06-11-2008, 09:23 AM
im in left field row 2 ...Beat L.A.

Killer game!

I sat one section over from Coach Cottrell and his white GF/Wife

Bolt Cola
06-11-2008, 09:51 AM
Killer game!

I sat one section over from Coach Cottrell and his white GF/Wifedid u recommend anyone we should move to safety :LightsOut:

56lightsout56
06-11-2008, 11:51 AM
Killer game!

I sat one section over from Coach Cottrell and his white GF/Wife

how many hot dogs he did down? 10-12?

RAWDOGG
06-11-2008, 12:47 PM
how many hot dogs he did down? 10-12?

Actually looked as though he has gained a few LBS.......I was going to walk over and say hi after the game, but he got bombarded with people as he was trying to leave, so I figured I wouldn't bother him

SD4Life
06-11-2008, 08:08 PM
So that's why the Padres always have a better record than the Dodgers.. Why didn't I understand it before

RAWDOGG
06-12-2008, 12:53 PM
So that's why the Padres always have a better record than the Dodgers.. Why didn't I understand it before

Are you serious?

Big'D'inSD!#56
06-12-2008, 04:16 PM
the Padres win today 9, the Dogers 0... so sad!
2-1 for this series.
way to go Padres.

JCDavey
06-12-2008, 04:19 PM
i wipe my ass with the dodgers section!

suck on it LA


BEAT LA BEAT LA BEAT LA


(but good luck lakers, i hate boston fans more haha)

David110
06-12-2008, 04:29 PM
Where's Rawdogg?? PLease explain your Dodgers and why they are pathetic.

RandomTask
06-12-2008, 04:47 PM
Jake Peavy just owns the Dodgers. Fun series!

RAWDOGG
06-12-2008, 04:56 PM
Where's Rawdogg?? PLease explain your Dodgers and why they are pathetic.


Right after you explain your Suns and why they are pathetic http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

David110
06-12-2008, 05:18 PM
Right after you explain your Suns and why they are pathetic http://forums.chargers.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

Nice for you to bring basketball in a baseball thread to avoid why the Dodgers lost 2 of 3 to the Pads.

RAWDOGG
06-12-2008, 05:23 PM
Nice for you to bring basketball in a baseball thread to avoid why the Dodgers lost 2 of 3 to the Pads.

It's all good........Dodgers still have a better record

JCDavey
06-12-2008, 05:48 PM
It's all good........Dodgers still have a better recordeven if they didn't have a better record, it's not all good, it's all bad lol for both of us technically

David110
06-12-2008, 06:47 PM
It's all good........Dodgers still have a better record

What 2 games in the loss column??

leftyinthepen
06-12-2008, 07:01 PM
What 2 games in the loss column??

actually....

LA 31-35 .470 4.5 GB
SD 30-38 .441 6.6 GB

pads have actually played in 2 more games.....

just having peavy back is the big deal....the offense needs to stay consistant, but it was good to see jake going at it today

knottyone
06-12-2008, 07:17 PM
even if they didn't have a better record, it's not all good, it's all bad lol for both of us technically

So far the season series is tied, 3-3. Each home team has won two of three games at home.

Go Padres!

JCDavey
06-12-2008, 07:24 PM
So far the season series is tied, 3-3. Each home team has won two of three games at home.

Go Padres!my point is we're both under .500

it's nowhere near all good for either team