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Old 01-23-2013, 03:53 PM
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I take anything Jerry Rice says with a grain of salt.
why is that?
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why is that?
Because he doesn't like Norv? Just speculating.
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I take anything Jerry Rice says with a grain of salt.

Would love to hear the story behind this.
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Truth is the Raiders practiced running the ball all week. Then during the game they passed it and all but skipped the running game. Whether Callahan actually announced a change in the game plan is anyone's guess. But the plan clearly did change. It's also true that the Bucs knew the Raiders terminnology as Callahan didn't change it.

However all this proves is that Callahan is a bad HC, which many people knew already. I don't buy that he threw the SB, no matter how much he hated the Raiders.
That's my take as well
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10 years from now, Rivers is going to come out and say that Norv threw last season to get away from AJ Smith and the San Diego fan base.
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why is that?
I don't know what his reason is, but Rice was a co-host on Sirius NFL Radio for about a year, and listening to him was like a bad trip to the dentist. Dude is dumb as a bocks of rox.
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Default If Brown said Callahan (sp?) had a dumb game plan...

that is a legit opinion. saying he threw the game is just plain stupid. if he wins that game he is set for life as a coach. he is going to give away the ultimate prize in football for his buddy? Brown is pulling a Teo here, please stop...............
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Would love to hear the story behind this.
Because Jerry Rice, HOFer & best WR to ever play the game, was the first to admit that Norv Turner is an awful HC and one of the worst in history of football.
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Former Raiders offensive lineman Frank Middleton said in a phone interview that he didn't believe Callahan's change in game plan contributed to Robbins' problems or that Callahan purposely lost the game even if there were bad feelings between the coach and players.
"Callahan hated us," Middleton said. "He didn't want to see a lot of us succeed because of who we were. I do believe Callahan had bad feelings against us. But to say he threw the game, I can't say that."
Middleton acknowledged that the plan the team used in the game was different than what was practiced but said he didn't know if that was because Robbins had left the team and the Raiders were forced to use backup center Adam Treu.


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Brown is back tracking. What a joke.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...he-super-bowl/
I find it weird that he's backtracking.

Brown basically said

The guy hated the raiders--corroborated.

The guy is good friends with Gruden--im sure thats true

The raiders game plan changed suddenly before the superbowl--corroborated..he also states in all of his football life that has never happened.

The raiders did not change the terminology of the plays that Gruden had installed in a game against gruden for a superbowl title--corroborated

He also said that in his opinion Callahan may have given the game to his buddy but he couldn't prove it.

People keep saying the defense is that Callahan would never do that because he would be known as super bowl winning coach for the rest of his life, but he obviously wasnt coaching it like the game of his life or else he wouldnt have changed the game plan and wouldve changed the terminology of the plays.

If he cared about winning the game his actions certainly didnt show it. So it either proves incompetence that Brown had never seen before in a coach or it proves suspicious behavior with motive to help lose the super bowl. Brown is basically saying that.

Instead of some bland denial statement from Callahan, I wouldve liked him to answer some questions as to why the terminology wasnt changed and why he changed the game plan and if thats why Robbins went AWOL. Shouldnt he at least be asked that question?
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