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Old 05-12-2016, 01:09 PM
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So Kiper thinks we improved the most this offseason, at least via the draft. That prompts me to start thinking about how our division has changed since the end of the 2015 season. Let's take stock, one team at a time.
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Denver Broncos

Departures-
  • Brock Osweiler, QB
  • Malik Jackson, DL
  • Danny Trevathan, LB
  • Evan Mathis, LG
  • Ryan Clady, OT
  • Louis Vasquez, RG
  • Ryan Harris, OT
  • Owen Daniels, TE
  • Vernon Davis, TE
  • David Bruton, S
  • Omar Bolden, S

What's most notable here is obviously Osweiler. He was far from proven, but Denver had invested years into his development and now he's gone. This situation, incidentally, is exactly why I thought 2016 was a year too soon to look for Rivers' heir apparent. Jackson and Trevathan are significant losses for a defense that should still be good. The OL of 2015 was quietly dismantled. Four starters moved on or were released. It will be a new look up front in 2016.

Arrivals-
  • Russell Okung, OT
  • Donald Stephenson, OT
  • Mark Sanchez, QB
  • Jared Crick, DL

Denver at least gave themselves options at OT. Okung isn't a particularly good or durable player, but he's not a liability. Sanchez adds to options at QB, but if he's your guy you are in trouble. Crick is depth.

Draft-
1. Paxton Lynch, QB, Memphis
2. Adam Gotsis, DL, Georgia Tech
3. Justin Simmons, S, Boston College
4. Devontae Booker, RB, Utah
5. Connor McGovern, OL, Missouri
6. Andy Janovich, FB, Nebraska
6. Will Parks, S, Arizona
7. Riley Dixon, P, Syracuse
This draft will be all about delayed gratification. The Broncos are starting over with another developmental QB. Gotsis is a talented prospect who should replace Jackson, but he's coming off injury. Simmons is an eventual Darian Stewart heir apparent. Booker has the best chance to help right away as a compliment to C.J. Anderson. McGovern should be nice depth.

Bottom Line- The Most Regression

The Broncos should still be considered the top team in the division coming off a championship, but they're also clearly the team that has taken the biggest step backwards. At QB, they're starting over. They're starting to see some losses off of that elite defense that they can't afford to replace immediately. The offensive line is being rebuilt, again-- though it won't surprise me if that aspect is successful given Kubiak's track record. Kudos to Elway for building a winner through FA. That's a rare feat and I didn't think he'd be able to pull it off. Most attempts to buy a ring fail. Now the long term success of his regime will rest on his ability to draft well.
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:32 PM
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Denver Broncos

Departures-
  • Brock Osweiler, QB
  • Malik Jackson, DL
  • Danny Trevathan, LB
  • Evan Mathis, LG
  • Ryan Clady, OT
  • Louis Vasquez, RG
  • Ryan Harris, OT
  • Owen Daniels, TE
  • Vernon Davis, TE
  • David Bruton, S
  • Omar Bolden, S

What's most notable here is obviously Osweiler. He was far from proven, but Denver had invested years into his development and now he's gone. This situation, incidentally, is exactly why I thought 2016 was a year too soon to look for Rivers' heir apparent. Jackson and Trevathan are significant losses for a defense that should still be good. The OL of 2015 was quietly dismantled. Four starters moved on or were released. It will be a new look up front in 2016.
I certainly like the irony with the OL situation. These guys completely overhauled and lost 4 of their starting Linemen and signed only one legitimate starter in both FA and the draft, but people on here were freaking out over our OL situation post draft...

Not to mention the QB scenario there.

Imagine if we lost Phil, and 80% of our OL starters and signed only one injury prone OT. The CMB would have lost their minds.
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I certainly like the irony with the OL situation. These guys completely overhauled and lost 4 of their starting Linemen and signed only one legitimate starter in both FA and the draft, but people on here were freaking out over our OL situation post draft...

Not to mention the QB scenario there.

Imagine if we lost Phil, and 80% of our OL starters and signed only one injury prone OT. The CMB would have lost their minds.
yeah the broncos are a mess on offense but the funny thing is, as bad as it looks for them they could still be better offense than they were last year.

the broncos also drafted a FB and just signed another bigger one. it seems the chargers are not the only team in the division looking to improve the running game and using FB sets to do it.

it will be especially interesting if our teams go head to head and just play smash mouth football back and forth.
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yeah the broncos are a mess on offense but the funny thing is, as bad as it looks for them they could still be better offense than they were last year.

the broncos also drafted a FB and just signed another bigger one. it seems the chargers are not the only team in the division looking to improve the running game and using FB sets to do it.

it will be especially interesting if our teams go head to head and just play smash mouth football back and forth.
The bolded is pure speculation, it can be said for any unit on any team in the NFL. Until they play together in the regular season, no one knows. But I'd say the odds of a brand new OL having never worked together with a brand new, possibly rookie, QB and brand new FBs I cant see how anyone would assume the unit will be better than it was with Peyton Manning running the Offense, as bad as his physical play was he still dominated the mental game and play calling.
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The bolded is pure speculation, it can be said for any unit on any team in the NFL. Until they play together in the regular season, no one knows. But I'd say the odds of a brand new OL having never worked together with a brand new, possibly rookie, QB and brand new FBs I cant see how anyone would assume the unit will be better than it was with Peyton Manning running the Offense, as bad as his physical play was he still dominated the mental game and play calling.
The irony is fantastic......
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The bolded is pure speculation, it can be said for any unit on any team in the NFL. Until they play together in the regular season, no one knows. But I'd say the odds of a brand new OL having never worked together with a brand new, possibly rookie, QB and brand new FBs I cant see how anyone would assume the unit will be better than it was with Peyton Manning running the Offense, as bad as his physical play was he still dominated the mental game and play calling.
of course it is speculation but you do realize how bad their offense was last year, right? i think if they can simply get their running game going it will be better than last year even with buttfumble.

by the way, me saying it "could" be better this year does not necessarily mean it "will" be better.
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Kansas City Chiefs

Departures-
  • Sean Smith, CB
  • Donald Stephenson, OT
  • Chase Daniel, QB
  • Jeff Allen, G
  • Tyvon Branch, S

Smith is easily the biggest loss here. The Chiefs don't really have an obvious replacement for him on hand. When your CB2 position is a competition, that doesn't bode particularly well, given that you really need three. Stephenson is solid, and more importantly was their best OT in recent seasons. Allen was passable and Daniel was a great backup.

Arrivals-
  • Mitchell Schwartz, OT

Really only one acquisition worth mentioning, but it's a good one. Schwartz is one of the best RT's in the game and probably the Chiefs' best OL from day one.

Draft-
2. Chris Jones, DL, Mississippi State
3. Keivarae Russell, CB, Notre Dame
4. Parker Ehinger, OL, Cincinnati
4. Eric Murray, CB, Minnesota
4. Demarcus Robinson, WR, Florida
5. Kevin Hogan, QB, Stanford
5. Tyreek Hill, WR, Oklahoma State
6. D.J. White, CB, Georgia Tech
6. Dadi Nicolas, DE/OLB, Virginia Tech
Jones is really the only important guy to talk about for the sake of 2016, as everyone else is probably depth. He has first round talent, but apparently a questionable work ethic. If Reid & Co can get through to him, he can make a big impact on that already loaded defensive line. The Chiefs will need to hope that the rest of this class develops into contributors. If Jones busts, there's a real chance that this entire class is a wash.

Bottom Line- Holding the Line

In my estimation, the Chiefs didn't really get better or worse this offseason when you balance their arrivals and departures. They maybe lost a couple more recognizable names than they gained, but the main guys they brought in (Schwartz and Jones) carry the potential of being high quality contributors. The biggest concern, as in recent years, is the offensive line. That still goes largely unaddressed. Morse and Schwartz are quality, but the rest are brutal.
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Oakland Raiders


Departures-
  • Charles Woodson, S
  • J'Marcus Webb, OT
  • Tony Bergstrom, OL
  • Benson Mayowa, DE
  • Lorenzo Alexander, LB

All of the top talent on the Raiders' roster is young. As a result, they didn't lose anyone of consequence other than Woodson, who retired.

Arrivals-
  • Kelechi Osemele, G
  • Sean Smith, CB
  • Bruce Irvin, LB
  • Reggie Nelson, S

Oakland made a number of splashy FA moves. Osemele, Smith, and Irvin are all top players at their positions. These are big steps for them, especially considering that they really didn't lose anyone of any quality to compare with these players.

Draft-
1. Karl Joseph, S, West Virginia
2. Jihad Ward, DL, Illinois
3. Shilique Calhoun, DE, Michigan State
4. Connor Cook, QB, Michigan State
5. DeAndre Washington, RB, Texas Tech
6. Cory James, LB, Colorado State
7. Vadal Alexander, OL, LSU
The first four rounds of this haul are quality. If you consider Ramsey a corner, Joseph was the best safety in the class by a wide margin. He offers potential to help right away in a lot of areas. Ward and Calhoun are both talents who I can see the Raiders' coaching staff getting the most out of early on. Cook is a great #2 who could be spun off for picks in the future. Still unproven, but this looks like a great draft on paper.

Bottom Line- Most Improved

I hate to say it, but it looks like Oakland will continue to ascend within the division. Their recent drafts are really paying off, they brought in the best haul of FA's in the division, and their draft looks like it offers immediate impact. Barring a regression from Carr, it's hard to see this team going backwards in the near future. Cornerback, Running Back, and Tight End remain as the positions where they look the most vulnerable on paper.
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Bottom Line- Most Improved

I hate to say it, but it looks like Oakland will continue to ascend within the division. Their recent drafts are really paying off, they brought in the best haul of FA's in the division, and their draft looks like it offers immediate impact. Barring a regression from Carr, it's hard to see this team going backwards in the near future. Cornerback, Running Back, and Tight End remain as the positions where they look the most vulnerable on paper.
The bolded is the key to how the Raiders will do over the next few years. He looks good to me but he had a tough second half of the season.

Btw, outstanding work in this thread and throughout the whole draft.
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