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Old 12-16-2016, 10:38 AM
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While I acknowledge I am being unfairly literal, but none of those guys you have listed are actually FA's.....and only a few might end up testing the market. With a premium on o-line these days, most teams will attempt to keep any that are worth it, and the others hit the dumpster bin for a reason.....do you really want the Bolts dumpster diving again ?
Slauson was a bit of a dumpster dive. Maybe we score again.
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IMHO the time is now to invest in drafting high quality Oline talent.

A lot of money has been invested there unsuccessfully.

Now we need to liquidate.
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Old 12-20-2016, 05:41 AM
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IMHO the time is now to invest in drafting high quality Oline talent.

A lot of money has been invested there unsuccessfully.

Now we need to liquidate.
Now is the time for TT and boss to stop missing on their o-line picks......
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Now is the time for TT and boss to stop missing on their o-line picks......
Hate to pass on the CBs, WRs and Pass Rushers in the 2017 Draft top 50,

But...

frozen, would you roll the dice-not count on-but roll the dice on Matt Kalil?

Minnesota ties w/Davidson.
Former high round 1 pick.
Underperforming and injured.
Cap issues in MIN.
Bargain hunter pricing.

Eye am about ready to bite the bullet on Barksdale and take the cap hit. He only plays one position. It might be better to keep, say, Burwell.
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Hate to pass on the CBs, WRs and Pass Rushers,

But...

frozen, would you roll the dice-not count on-but roll the dice on Matt Kalil?

Minnesota ties w/Davidson.
Former high round 1 pick.
Underperforming and injured.
Cap issues in MIN.
Bargain hunter pricing.

Eye am about to bite the bullet on Barksdale and take the cap hit. He only plays one position. It might be better to keep, say, Burwell.

At this point I wouldn't rule anything out of my possible approach to the off season moves. (I know that sounds like a dodge of your question) I simply believe there is a process, and it really hasn't started. For me, it would start with an evaluation of play, then an analysis of cost....both to keep and/or release, then a look at replacement options, and all that go with that. There should not be a snap decision, the decision should be a well thought out one. I do believe it is time to move on from most in this o-line group, where financially appropriate, as I can lose with UDFA's just like I am with these guys.

Under performing and often injured.....pretty much eliminates the need to know cost, at least for me. I pass on him.....
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Had a great rookie season. Davidson's call. Informed opinion.
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Had a great rookie season. Davidson's call. Informed opinion.
I like 'great rookie season' as much as everyone else, but to me, it is what happens after your opponents know you.....

Put on the spot, I said pass on him....after all the off season analysis is completed, he might be the best option from a group of bad options. Similar to the Barksdale signing....
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Last year (2015) Barksdale played all along the line. Not just right tackle. In interviews he presents himself well, as if he has a brain that processes information well, and communicates well. I would keep Barksdale for depth, and just in case he can return to better playing form, like in 2015, when he was just about the only bright spot on that Oline.

Because after Robinson and Ramczyck, the offensive tackle prospects in the 2017 draft class don't look too good. Barksdale is better than most of them.

As for free agents, who knows, until players declare themselves as free agents.
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Max Tuerk has problems snapping the football, especially in shotgun.

His best position is OG, where he can get out in space, leading with his excellent lateral movement, and getting to the second level.
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Max Tuerk has problems snapping the football, especially in shotgun.

His best position is OG, where he can get out in space, leading with his excellent lateral movement, and getting to the second level.
I hope you're right that he can play Guard. It goes against what I read in his draft profile, and he sure would seem undersized: "Lean, lanky build that looks more like a freshman tackle than a senior center. Has played at a weight well below the norm for an NFL starting center and scouts concerned that keeping mass on his frame will be an issue."
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