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Old 02-13-2017, 07:40 PM
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Besides the 11 championships versus 0 count, there's one other fundamental difference between the Chargers and Clippers in regard to their "rivalries" with the Rams and Lakers respectively:

Unlike older original fans and even Gen X fans who remember going to or having the experience of their father/parents bringing them to Rams games at the Coliseum or the Big A, millenials have zero connection with the Rams due to their absence from LA for two decades. If (big if) they win, they can definitely become THE team in LA just as the Raiders predominantly took over the region during their 15 years at the Coliseum.
That's true. However, unlike in San Diego, there is a LOT more fan dollar competition in LA. The Chargers don't need to merely be better than the Rams - UCLA and USC are big football draws and attractions as well. And that is ignoring all the other major sports that overlap the NFL season. Being 9-7 or 10-6, and going one-and-done in the playoffs won't generate much excitement either.

Another reason I strongly despise this move is that realistically the Chargers will not have much of a home field advantage. More transplants in LA metro than SD, and a smaller and less passionate overall fan base for them. There will be many, many opposing fans at their games. When the Raiders show up, it will be worse than the last game at the Q was.
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That's true. However, unlike in San Diego, there is a LOT more fan dollar competition in LA. The Chargers don't need to merely be better than the Rams - UCLA and USC are big football draws and attractions as well. And that is ignoring all the other major sports that overlap the NFL season. Being 9-7 or 10-6, and going one-and-done in the playoffs won't generate much excitement either.

Another reason I strongly despise this move is that realistically the Chargers will not have much of a home field advantage. More transplants in LA metro than SD, and a smaller and less passionate overall fan base for them. There will be many, many opposing fans at their games. When the Raiders show up, it will be worse than the last game at the Q was.
It's unlikely for the first two seasons as there aren't going to be all that many seats available after season tickets are distributed. Then it will be a matter of which season ticket holders sell their seats to opposing fans. Season ticket sales plunged in 2016 after the Carson debacle, so that left unsold seats numbering in many thousands (probably in the tens of thousand) available for visiting fans to purchase before getting to the season ticket resales.

We'll see in 2019. Perhaps that will be true, but that depends mightily on what happens on the field in 2017 & 2018.
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Of yes votes Prop C received instead of the percentage?
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I think I found it, it was 300 thousand no's and 211 thousand yes... So 211 thousand Charger fans isn't enough to stay? That's a lot of possible season ticket holders.
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I think I found it, it was 300 thousand no's and 211 thousand yes... So 211 thousand Charger fans isn't enough to stay? That's a lot of possible season ticket holders.
Ballotpedia is a good source for researching ballot measures and results. That site indicates there were approximately 544,000 votes cast on Measure C, Yes votes 237,587, No votes 306,887. This total represents only 39% of the city of San Diego's population.

It was also a city-only populace vote as well. SD city has about 1.4 million; SD county has 3.3 million. Those 1.9 million folks outside the city limits were not permitted to vote on Measure C. This basically indicates that it was hardly an accurate analysis, regarding the desire of the people of San Diego County for keeping the Chargers.

https://ballotpedia.org/San_Diego,_C...(November_2016)
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