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Old 11-21-2012, 02:28 PM
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Who do we draft, should we draft, what positions.

I am thinking OL with two of the picks.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:34 PM
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Perfect world, we address one of the OL needs and CB in free agency.

Then we can draft OL and pass rusher with the first two picks. In round three we could go a lot of ways. RB or ILB are two I would look at.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:03 PM
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Perfect world, we address one of the OL needs and CB in free agency.

Then we can draft OL and pass rusher with the first two picks. In round three we could go a lot of ways. RB or ILB are two I would look at.
I dunno, if we get much worse, I would honestly not be opposed to going with the Manti Te'o number 1. could you imagine him and Butler in the middle.
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:56 PM
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We need just about every position. Biggest need is O line so we should address that in the first couple rounds.

Biggest priorities on O: OT, OG, RB, WR, C, TE, QB (backup, this is not the year for drafting Qbs high)

Biggest priorities on D: OLB, CB, Safety, ILB
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:35 PM
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My mock as of today:

1. Taylor Lewan OT Michigan

2. Chase Thomas OLB Stanford

3. Mike Glennon QB North Carolina St

This is revision #1,358. A work in progress as always.
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:46 PM
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My mock as of today:

1. Taylor Lewan OT Michigan

2. Chase Thomas OLB Stanford

3. Mike Glennon QB North Carolina St

This is revision #1,358. A work in progress as always.
Just some friendly commentary...

While I agree with the philosophy on the first two picks, Thomas hasn't impressed me of late. He is tenacious, strong, smart, and uses his hands well. But he's pretty stiff and doesn't have a very good first step. Seeing as how we need to find someone to grow into the ROLB position, I would look elsewhere. His skillset seems like a fit at LOLB where Ingram is bound to play for the foreseeable future. I'm also guessing that Thomas will slide at least into the 3rd before it's all said and done.

Also, people are apparently talking about Glennon making a push into the upper rounds. Regardless, my opinion this season is that we need to save QB until really late... maybe even not draft one at all. Here's why: We need to use our top picks (at least 1-4) to address needs on the team so that we can assess whether or not Rivers is truly through (as opposed to just needing better protection and talent around him). Any QB you find in the late rounds is not going to be starter material unless it's a total fluke.

I say we pour all our resources into our needs outside of QB (esp. OL, OLB, and CB) and see what we have in Rivers. If he still can't pull himself together, then we'll know he's done here and we can spend a higher pick on a new QB. Seems to me that it's highly probable that we'll have to spend a 1st or at least 2nd on a QB for our next starter in any case, so taking one in the 3rd-5th right now would probably not help this team in the short or long term.

That's just the way I see it.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:34 PM
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I say we pour all our resources into our needs outside of QB (esp. OL, OLB, and CB) and see what we have in Rivers. If he still can't pull himself together, then we'll know he's done here and we can spend a higher pick on a new QB. Seems to me that it's highly probable that we'll have to spend a 1st or at least 2nd on a QB for our next starter in any case, so taking one in the 3rd-5th right now would probably not help this team in the short or long term.

That's just the way I see it.
I agree with everything especially the quoted. On to my next mock revision!

Since I don't do player analysis to the extent that you do, who are some pure pass rushers you see falling to the top half of the second round that would be a good fit?
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I agree with everything especially the quoted. On to my next mock revision!

Since I don't do player analysis to the extent that you do, who are some pure pass rushers you see falling to the top half of the second round that would be a good fit?
We each probably have about 6700 revisions ahead of us, lol.

I would say that the following have a chance to slip into the second (listed from least likely to most likely):

- Jarvis Jones, Georgia: Supremely talented, but sadly Jones deals with the same health issues that McNeill does. The combine medical check could really hurt him and push him down boards dramatically.

- Barkevious Mingo, LSU: Mingo's lack of production might hurt him if enough pass rushers ranked below him sneak ahead. It's very unlikely, which is why he almost heads this list, but it's not unheard of for such a highly regarded preseason prospect to tumble with a lackluster season.

- Cornellius Carradine, Fl. State: Carradine's stock still isn't where it belongs because he didn't come into the season as the starter. But he's vastly outperformed Brandon Jenkins and will most likely land in the first, with pass rush needy teams like the Falcons selecting late.

- Alex Okafor, Texas: Okafor is well-round, but not spectacular in any regard. That could allow for teams picking late in the first choosing a different talent that might wow them in some specific regard.

- Dion Jordan, Oregon: Jordan's sterling season has suffered due to an injury lately. Also, if he's as tall as he's listed, then he doesn't really have a natural position. At 6'6" he'd be at the proper height for DE, but way too light.

- Ezekiel Ansah, BYU: Coming from a smaller program can always limit one's draft stock. Ansah's lack of experience and stat sheet production may also hurt him, but he has talent to match most prospects in this draft.

- Anthony Barr, UCLA: Barr's inexperience on defense shows in a lot of the little things. Fans are going to overlook that because of the production, but scouts probably won't. Still a decent shot at the first with a good combine, but far from a lock.

- Morgan Breslin, USC: Breslin is another player who has absolutely burst onto the scene in 2012. He's far from perfect, but there's enough upside that he will almost certainly go on the second day.

- Brandon Jenkins, Fl. State: If Jenkins can prove that he's fully healthy by the time the combine rolls around, some team is going to draft him based on the upside that he was unable to show this season.

- Corey Lemonier, Auburn: Lemonier has a great first step off the line, and that's about it. He should be a good rotational pass rusher in the NFL, but he'll need to develop a lot more in order to be a starter. He's more of a guy I would look to fall to the 3rd.

I didn't list Chase Thomas or John Simon because I don't think they fit what we should be looking for in a blindside pass rusher. Also didn't include Jackson Jeffcoat as I think he's a lock to go back to school.
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Old 11-24-2012, 07:50 PM
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1. Taylor Lewan OT Michigan

2. Montee Ball RB Wisconsin

3. Oday Aboushi OT Virginia /Denard Robinson ATH Michigan

This is what I am thinking. Have no clue where Denard Robinson is going but he would be a quality pick up to be a running back/utility guy, has great speed and versatility.
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What is the point in going QB (which is unneccesarry anyway) when no QB could survive our line anyway?
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