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Old 12-02-2012, 04:19 PM
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I'll take a pass rushing OLB in the 2nd...even in the 1st if we end up out of the running for one of the top OTs. I've said it before...and others have as well...we start generating a pass rush like the Giants, whose DBs aren't even as good as ours, and our DBs are going to look way, way better. After QB, a top pass rusher is the most important player on a team...just ahead of OLT.
Yeah we've tried to get our pass rush back and it clearly isnt working so maybe we need to try another way
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Yeah we definitely shouldn't cut Hardwick. Clary, it would depend on how much we would save versus the cap hit. He could stick around as a backup I suppose. But in my opinion, based upon my own eyeball test, Hardwick is far from the biggest problem. He's definitely on the decline, but he's still decent enough that- when combined with the value of his calls at the line and getting protections right- he's worth the money.
I'd eat the money, and cut Hardwick after this season.

The late strip/sack/fumble vs. Cincy is the EXACT type play where some edge pressure by an OT gets the "stat" but the problem really was Hardwick on rollerskates so Rivers had nowhere to step up.

OT's get the blame by the announcers and fans, but Hardwick is the real problem on the OL.
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I'd eat the money, and cut Hardwick after this season.

The late strip/sack/fumble vs. Cincy is the EXACT type play where some edge pressure by an OT gets the "stat" but the problem really was Hardwick on rollerskates so Rivers had nowhere to step up.

OT's get the blame by the announcers and fans, but Hardwick is the real problem on the OL.
We definitely have different opinions. I saw Hardwick get beat today, sure, but it was nothing compared to the whooping that our tackles took. And he was playing a DT tandem that has beat just about everyone they've played this year. Hardwick's value for blitz pickup and getting the calls right goes unseen. But we don't have to agree... just don't try to tell me that I'm stat watching and making a knee jerk reaction and that Mike Harris, Jeromey Clary, and Kevin Haslim are viable starters in the NFL.
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We definitely have different opinions. I saw Hardwick get beat today, sure, but it was nothing compared to the whooping that our tackles took. And he was playing a DT tandem that has beat just about everyone they've played this year. Hardwick's value for blitz pickup and getting the calls right goes unseen. But we don't have to agree... just don't try to tell me that I'm stat watching and making a knee jerk reaction and that Mike Harris, Jeromey Clary, and Kevin Haslim are viable starters in the NFL.
I have said the OT's need replaced. Hardwick is worse.
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I have said the OT's need replaced. Hardwick is worse.
Which is an interesting, outside the box opinion that you are entitled to. We just don't share it and I wouldn't want someone thinking I based my opinion entirely on numbers.
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Which is an interesting, outside the box opinion that you are entitled to. We just don't share it and I wouldn't want someone thinking I based my opinion entirely on numbers.
I wasn't insinuating anything about how you decide. Honest.

I just say what I see. I think the OT's have been beyond bad, but I firmly believe Hardwick is actually worse.
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I wasn't insinuating anything about how you decide. Honest.

I just say what I see. I think the OT's have been beyond bad, but I firmly believe Hardwick is actually worse.
We get that, now when are you going to get around to watching Braxston Cave?? Tomorrow perhaps?
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We get that, now when are you going to get around to watching Braxston Cave?? Tomorrow perhaps?
I'll start looking in the next few weeks ...

Hey ... if we want a NT, I think I got a mancrush on #99 from Georgia watching the SEC Title game. Geathers? Dude is good.
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I'll start looking in the next few weeks ...

Hey ... if we want a NT, I think I got a mancrush on #99 from Georgia watching the SEC Title game. Geathers? Dude is good.
That duo is good. Didn't catch the game, but #6 on Georgia, John Jenkins, is one of the top rated NT prospects this year. Top 5 DT prospect.
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That duo is good. Didn't catch the game, but #6 on Georgia, John Jenkins, is one of the top rated NT prospects this year. Top 5 DT prospect.
Yeah ... he caught my eye too. 99 was better yesterday.

Just going on a one gave viewing, I'd say #6 would be a better fit as a 4-3 1 tech, and 99 a 3-4 NT.
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