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Old 11-10-2015, 03:09 PM
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So much blame going around...MM, TT, the fans, Dean, LA...one name seems to fly under the radar and that's John Spanos. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for the mess we're in, it's John Spanos. This is directly from his bio on chargers.com:

John Spanos was named President—Football Operations for the Chargers in May 2015. He oversees all of the team’s football operations, including player personnel, coaching, player finance and the salary cap, medical, equipment, video, player engagement and security. He also represents the team at all league and management council meetings.

Drawing from his scouting experience, Spanos has seen his role in the NFL Draft grow exponentially since his ascension in 2013 and the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The team’s 2013 draft yielded three key starters: tackle D.J. Fluker, linebacker Manti Te’o, and wide receiver and Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen. The 2014 draft class saw four of the six players the Chargers selected make the team’s opening day roster, and the 2015 class is full of promising talent, headlined by running back Melvin Gordon, winner of the 2014 Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top running back, and runner up for the 2014 Heisman Trophy.

It seems we have gotten worse as a franchise with every promotion John has been given. It's just my opinion but the heart of the problem is John. Unfortunately, he'll never be let go so we look to be in trouble for some time to come.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:14 PM
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So much blame going around...MM, TT, the fans, Dean, LA...one name seems to fly under the radar and that's John Spanos. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for the mess we're in, it's John Spanos. This is directly from his bio on chargers.com:

John Spanos was named President—Football Operations for the Chargers in May 2015. He oversees all of the team’s football operations, including player personnel, coaching, player finance and the salary cap, medical, equipment, video, player engagement and security. He also represents the team at all league and management council meetings.

Drawing from his scouting experience, Spanos has seen his role in the NFL Draft grow exponentially since his ascension in 2013 and the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The team’s 2013 draft yielded three key starters: tackle D.J. Fluker, linebacker Manti Te’o, and wide receiver and Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen. The 2014 draft class saw four of the six players the Chargers selected make the team’s opening day roster, and the 2015 class is full of promising talent, headlined by running back Melvin Gordon, winner of the 2014 Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top running back, and runner up for the 2014 Heisman Trophy.

It seems we have gotten worse as a franchise with every promotion John has been given. It's just my opinion but the heart of the problem is John. Unfortunately, he'll never be let go so we look to be in trouble for some time to come.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:19 PM
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i've never said Dean... i've always said the spanos lol
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:25 PM
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So much blame going around...MM, TT, the fans, Dean, LA...one name seems to fly under the radar and that's John Spanos. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for the mess we're in, it's John Spanos. This is directly from his bio on chargers.com:

John Spanos was named President—Football Operations for the Chargers in May 2015. He oversees all of the team’s football operations, including player personnel, coaching, player finance and the salary cap, medical, equipment, video, player engagement and security. He also represents the team at all league and management council meetings.

Drawing from his scouting experience, Spanos has seen his role in the NFL Draft grow exponentially since his ascension in 2013 and the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The team’s 2013 draft yielded three key starters: tackle D.J. Fluker, linebacker Manti Te’o, and wide receiver and Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen. The 2014 draft class saw four of the six players the Chargers selected make the team’s opening day roster, and the 2015 class is full of promising talent, headlined by running back Melvin Gordon, winner of the 2014 Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top running back, and runner up for the 2014 Heisman Trophy.

It seems we have gotten worse as a franchise with every promotion John has been given. It's just my opinion but the heart of the problem is John. Unfortunately, he'll never be let go so we look to be in trouble for some time to come.

Now now, lets not get critical of mijo, he is the bosses son you know.

As for Spano's bio, of course these guys are starting, what are they gonna do, let their high draft picks sit? Allen was a great pick, Fluker is good, Te'o is always hurt, and mediocre when he does actually play. My opinion anyway.
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Sounds like he has a LOT more input on scouting, player personnel decisions, drafting, FA's then most of us probably perceived. I speak on behalf of myself, but I don't like it. I have a feeling if we could get TT in a room and give him a truth serum, he would have much to say about it.
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The only time this franchise has ever had success is when it's had an authoritarian-type head coach.

Gilman
Coryell
Ross
Schottenheimer

Men who stood on their own and KNEW footballand what it took to run a successful team. These were "Football Men"... they got it. They didn't need to be micro-managed and told how to do their jobs. Above everything, they were teachers, too. The above men were deemed to be problematic for various owners - the last two by the current regime, when they were summarily shown the door by folks with fragile egos. Shown the door in favor of 'yes men'...something they'd never bow down to become.

The Spanos' aren't football people. They should let real football men do what they do - instead of meddling in something they have no idea about.
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Old 11-10-2015, 03:37 PM
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The question is, how do we hold him accountable ?

Perhaps a good ol' fashion tar and feathering is in order !
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So much blame going around...MM, TT, the fans, Dean, LA...one name seems to fly under the radar and that's John Spanos. If there is anyone who should be held accountable for the mess we're in, it's John Spanos. This is directly from his bio on chargers.com:

John Spanos was named President—Football Operations for the Chargers in May 2015. He oversees all of the team’s football operations, including player personnel, coaching, player finance and the salary cap, medical, equipment, video, player engagement and security. He also represents the team at all league and management council meetings.

Drawing from his scouting experience, Spanos has seen his role in the NFL Draft grow exponentially since his ascension in 2013 and the results have been overwhelmingly positive. The team’s 2013 draft yielded three key starters: tackle D.J. Fluker, linebacker Manti Te’o, and wide receiver and Pepsi Next NFL Rookie of the Year Keenan Allen. The 2014 draft class saw four of the six players the Chargers selected make the team’s opening day roster, and the 2015 class is full of promising talent, headlined by running back Melvin Gordon, winner of the 2014 Doak Walker Award as the nation’s top running back, and runner up for the 2014 Heisman Trophy.

It seems we have gotten worse as a franchise with every promotion John has been given. It's just my opinion but the heart of the problem is John. Unfortunately, he'll never be let go so we look to be in trouble for some time to come.
I don't know that he's at the heart of the problem, but I do know there is no accountability and that bothers me even more.

The franchise is a mess. Just trade PR, let Weddle walk and move to LA. Then we'll be done with it and LA Charger fans can deal with Spanos.
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The only time this franchise has ever had success is when it's had an authoritarian-type head coach.

Gilman
Coryell
Ross
Schottenheimer

Men who stood on their own and KNEW footballand what it took to run a successful team. These were "Football Men"... they got it. They didn't need to be micro-managed and told how to do their jobs. Above everything, they were teachers, too. The above men were deemed to be problematic for various owners - the last two by the current regime, when they were summarily shown the door by folks with fragile egos. Shown the door in favor of 'yes men'...something they'd never bow down to become.

The Spanos' aren't football people. They should let real football men do what they do - instead of meddling in something they have no idea about.
I wouldn't categorize Coryell as an authoritarian. What they do all have in common is having been successful as a Head Coach before coming to the Chargers. They haven't been able to identify and hire good coordinators who can step up so they have to hire someone who has done it before successfully. That is all.
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