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Old 10-22-2018, 04:43 PM
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Gruden robbed his boy Jerry
No doubt. He is lucky Jerry is an idiot. Lol
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Old 10-22-2018, 06:11 PM
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I’m sure they’d trade Carr if they could. His contract makes it impossible
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That would be the Chucky way as evidenced by his QB churn in Tampa, but you're correct: the contract does make it pretty much impossible. Doesn't mean that he may not try.
Actually, Florio points out that it is not out of the realm of possibilities:

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Will Derek Carr be the next big name to go in Oakland?
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Two years ago, the Raiders reversed nearly 15 seasons of futility by making it to the playoffs with a nucleus of young talent consisting of a first-round pick in 2014 (Khalil Mack) and 2015 (Amari Cooper). They’re now both gone, six games into Jon Gruden’s first season with the team.

The decision to dump both players will serve only to fuel speculation that 2014 second-round pick Derek Carr could be next.

The question becomes whether Carr would be cut or traded in 2019. (A trade over the next eight days would be stunning, even by the standard Gruden has established in his brief time back in Oakland.) As previously explained, Carr could be cut before the third day of the 2019 waiver period (i.e., the third day after the next Super Bowl) with no further obligation to Carr and a 2019 cap charge of $7.5 million.

After the third day of the waiver period, Carr’s $19.9 million salary for 2019 becomes fully guaranteed. But if another team covets Carr sufficiently to absorb that commitment and to give the Raiders value, the Raiders and another team could reach a technically-unenforceable Alex Smith-style trade, announcing the tentative deal during the week before the Super Bowl (for example), holding Carr until the new league year begins in March, and sending his $19.9 million to a new team.

With 2020-22 salaries of $18.9 million, $19.525 million, and $19.777519 million, respectively (and annual workout bonuses of $100,000), a new team would be inheriting a four-year, $78.5 million. That’s an average of $19.6 million per year, which equates to roughly 58.5 percent of the new high-water mark for the quarterback market set earlier this year by Aaron Rodgers.

Of course, that would leave the Raiders without a quarterback. Despite the ongoing flood from college football of competent young quarterbacks, Gruden likely would want a Rich Gannon-style veteran, who would be entrusted with an offense that (as Chris Simms always says) Gruden regards as a Ferrari — and that Gruden wants no one to scratch.

The ultimate question is whether Gruden will continue to scratch an itch that has seen dramatic turnover with the Raiders, to the point where the would-be franchise quarterback potentially becomes the franchise’s next former key young player.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...go-in-oakland/
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Old 10-22-2018, 08:34 PM
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Apparently, they put Marshawn Lynch on IR. Full on tank mode. Thank you Oakland for all your support over the years. We are going to make it so you don’t miss us
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Apparently, they put Marshawn Lynch on IR. Full on tank mode. Thank you Oakland for all your support over the years. We are going to make it so you don’t miss us
The Giants are in a race with the Raiders for the #1 pick. May the franchise that tanks the best be victorious in their quest!!
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That would be the Chucky way as evidenced by his QB churn in Tampa, but you're correct: the contract does make it pretty much impossible. Doesn't mean that he may not try.
He does that then everyone will know Gruden is on an ego trip.

Based on the recent draft I don't know if what he's trying to do is realistic. I thought he reached for the players they got in the draft.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:07 AM
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It's Jon Gruden and his dog spot! If you need to get rid of your
top players go see Jon. If you need to trade your talent go
see Jon. Sell a player lower morale go see Jon go
see Jon go see Jon!

Remember Cal Worthington commercials on television?
That jingle rings when you think of Gruden debut season.
What was intriguing to start the season is just plain
pathetic what he's doing to the Raiders. It sucks for
their fan base after seeing their emergence two years
ago.

Does it matter? In the end no...we like beating the
Raiders. I didn't expect Gruden to be a deal maker
and then tell the media we aren't laying down the
season. C'mon Gruden we're not dummies.
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:24 AM
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Report: Derek Carr has “fractured relationship” with teammates
Mike Florio

With Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper gone from the Raiders, the next question maybe isn’t whether the team wants to move quarterback Derek Carr but whether it can keep him.

Marcus Thompson II of TheAthletic.com reports that Carr currently has a “fractured relationship” with his teammates. The reportedly fractured relationship between Carr and his teammates is rooted in a loss of confidence in the quarterback, as exacerbated by game film from the London contest against the Seahawks that “showed what looked like him crying after being sacked and injuring his arm.”

“They saw his face,” Thompson writes. “They heard his whimper. They witnessed him explain on the sidelines. They assuredly watched it again in film session. It’s hard to see how Carr can lead this team again.”

It was indeed curious, to say the least, to see video of what appeared to be Carr crying in the melting-face way that a kid would cry after falling off his bike. If Thompson’s report is accurate, Carr’s teammates regard it as something worse than curious.

This doesn’t mean the Raiders will move on from Carr, but whether and to what extent the locker room believes in Carr could be a factor in coach Jon Gruden’s ultimate assessment as to whether Carr should or shouldn’t be the quarterback in 2019. As noted on Monday, his contract pays out an average of $19.6 million over the next four years, which could make him tradeable. If not, the Raiders will have to decide by the third day of the 2019 waiver period whether to keep Carr and pay him a guaranteed salary of $19.9 million next year or cut him and find another quarterback.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ith-teammates/
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Marcus Thompson II of TheAthletic.com reports that Carr currently has a “fractured relationship” with his teammates. The reportedly fractured relationship between Carr and his teammates is rooted in a loss of confidence in the quarterback, as exacerbated by game film from the London contest against the Seahawks that “showed what looked like him crying after being sacked and injuring his arm.”

“They saw his face,” Thompson writes. “They heard his whimper. They witnessed him explain on the sidelines. They assuredly watched it again in film session. It’s hard to see how Carr can lead this team again.”


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All those times Raiders fans joked "Cry Me a Rivers". Look who's crying now?
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Old 10-23-2018, 08:41 AM
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Apparently, they put Marshawn Lynch on IR. Full on tank mode. Thank you Oakland for all your support over the years. We are going to make it so you don’t miss us
Did not Chucky say, at the time he took the gig, that he felt a sense of urgency to make it all happen IMMEDIATELY for the Oakland Raider fans ?

Huh. Huh. Huh.

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