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Old 09-19-2017, 04:18 PM
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my guess is that the best chance of that ever happening
is if the NFL gets involved.
"LA Chargers were such a failure that it was hurting our brand thus justifying a force-sell" kind of deal.
then the NFL and new owner get to look like heros bring them back to SD.
SD fans will eat it up and LA won't even notice
That's what I see happening. I just can't see the NFL sitting by idly while a joke of a franchise continues to struggle to fill seats.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:29 PM
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That's what I see happening. I just can't see the NFL sitting by idly while a joke of a franchise continues to struggle to fill seats.
The NFL is going to wait at least 2 1/2 more seasons, until both teams are moved into Kroenke's new palace, before they start looking at anything. They're more worried about TV viewership numbers and anthem protests.

And for the first while, I don't think they're going to have problems selling tickets or PSL's. LA is a huge market, and with the latest high tech NFL facility in the country, LA will want to be seen there mingling. So that gives the Chargers 4-5 years to establish an LA fanbase.

San Diego had 15 years to get a stadium deal done. Maybe longer. Moving the team back would cost more than what the city would have had to spend to keep the team from leaving.

In other words, don't hold your breath.

And when's the last time the NFL forced an NFL owner to sell their team? Oh, that's right, never. The Jags stadium has been a ghost town for years, and there was plenty of talk of Khan moving them. The Raiders have had half their stadium tarped for years as well. Did the NFL force Mark to sell after Al died? Nope.

Same can be said for every team struggling to win games, and fill stadiums. With TV money and profit sharing, no owner is going to be "forced" to sell their team. The NFL's profits have more than doubled since Goodell has been the commish, and they're working on a 5 year extension right now.

In other words, get used to more of the same.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:32 PM
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i am figuring it is a good time for SD to try to get them back.
The best time for SD to get them, was when the stadium was still a possibility. But the voters in SD decided that they didn't want tourists and out of town opposing fans paying for their new stadium.

People talking about the NFL forcing Spanos to sell, and the team moving back to SD are dreaming.
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The best time for SD to get them, was when the stadium was still a possibility. But the voters in SD decided that they didn't want tourists and out of town opposing fans paying for their new stadium.

People talking about the NFL forcing Spanos to sell, and the team moving back to SD are dreaming.
I think voters in San Diego decided they didn't want to subsidize one of the wealthiest families in San Diego, nor the the wealthiest sports leagues in the nation. Instead of finding a way to do what Kroenke is doing in Los Angeles, Dean decided he would just piggyback off Kroenke.
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I think voters in San Diego decided they didn't want to subsidize one of the wealthiest families in San Diego, nor the the wealthiest sports leagues in the nation. Instead of finding a way to do what Kroenke is doing in Los Angeles, Dean decided he would just piggyback off Kroenke.
32 teams in the league. How many play in privately owned and financed stadiums?
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Old 09-19-2017, 08:30 PM
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The best time for SD to get them, was when the stadium was still a possibility. But the voters in SD decided that they didn't want tourists and out of town opposing fans paying for their new stadium.

People talking about the NFL forcing Spanos to sell, and the team moving back to SD are dreaming.
Tom, the cavernous, glaring flaw in Measure C was its restriction to San Diego city voters. All the articles I have read strongly indicate that at least 50%, likely more, of San Diego county voters would have voted yes if permitted to vote.

The Chargers fan base was throughout the county, and the majority of them appear to be outside city limits. That limited vote created a misleading, false impression that the majority of San Diego metro area residents didn't want Measure C passed, or care about the Chargers staying.

To give a comparative, Met Life Stadium here in NJ is in the town of East Rutherford. If a future new stadium is to be built, and a vote taken, there is no way on earth the only people permitted to vote would be East Rutherford residents.
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They just left so fans are moving on with life after the San Diego Chargers. From local interviews with former fans, the first year is rough not knowing what to do. I noticed a big attendance jump with the game against Stanford last weekend. Maybe that was just that particular top 20 school and possibly former Charger fans seeking a team to cheer for. About 43,040 fans attended the game. The norm attendance from past games range in the low thirties.

The thought of having the Chargers return is not in the radar. It's more like grieving the loss and moving on. Check back much later...several years maybe a decade down the line. If the Chargers continue to spiral and have losing seasons, the Fight for LA will be not much of a fight, King Kronke decides to raise the ransom to the Spanos family. They take exception...where do they go? What can they do? Would they sell out for the love of money? Maybe then...the talks of returning may then ensue.
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FIRST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Mayor and Council are still fighting building what should have been done YEARS ago.

They don't even realize the team is gone.
SECOND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Chargers bought out their lease with the Q and moved on. They don't realize how different it is in LA.
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Tom, the cavernous, glaring flaw in Measure C was its restriction to San Diego city voters. All the articles I have read strongly indicate that at least 50%, likely more, of San Diego county voters would have voted yes if permitted to vote.

The Chargers fan base was throughout the county, and the majority of them appear to be outside city limits. That limited vote created a misleading, false impression that the majority of San Diego metro area residents didn't want Measure C passed, or care about the Chargers staying.

To give a comparative, Met Life Stadium here in NJ is in the town of East Rutherford. If a future new stadium is to be built, and a vote taken, there is no way on earth the only people permitted to vote would be East Rutherford residents.
And here we are, almost a year later, and every media outlet in SD is denigrating the Chargers in any way possible. From hate watching, to Chargers hater clubs, to disowning anyone who decided to follow the team and keep watching.

Meanwhile, the Mayor sold his soul for MLS, which he somehow managed to screw up while also alienating SDSU and Aztecs football in the process.

Now Qualcomm is coming down, the DT stadium site is abandoned, and no one has a proposal on the table as to how either site will be developed, if they ever are.

So now here we are. No NFL, no NBA, no MLS, zero, zip, nada. And yet SD saw fit to re-elect this man.

44% of SD city residents were for the Chargers stadium proposal. Stating that a county wide vote would have brought different results is a guess, at best.

San Diego has lost two NBA teams, an NFL team, a pro soccer team, and there is no one making any noise about bringing any of them back to SD in the near or distant future. Until SD rids itself of its inept, corrupt politicians, you can bet that teams won't be tempted by the SD market to locate there.

And that, my friend, is a damn shame.

A multi-purpose stadium that could be used year round in Mission Valley would have provided so many jobs, and brought so many events to SD. What better place for a Super Bowl? State football championship games?

SD leaders lack vision, and now the residents of both the city and the county are paying the price.
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And here we are, almost a year later, and every media outlet in SD is denigrating the Chargers in any way possible. From hate watching, to Chargers hater clubs, to disowning anyone who decided to follow the team and keep watching.

Meanwhile, the Mayor sold his soul for MLS, which he somehow managed to screw up while also alienating SDSU and Aztecs football in the process.

Now Qualcomm is coming down, the DT stadium site is abandoned, and no one has a proposal on the table as to how either site will be developed, if they ever are.

So now here we are. No NFL, no NBA, no MLS, zero, zip, nada. And yet SD saw fit to re-elect this man.

44% of SD city residents were for the Chargers stadium proposal. Stating that a county wide vote would have brought different results is a guess, at best.

San Diego has lost two NBA teams, an NFL team, a pro soccer team, and there is no one making any noise about bringing any of them back to SD in the near or distant future. Until SD rids itself of its inept, corrupt politicians, you can bet that teams won't be tempted by the SD market to locate there.

And that, my friend, is a damn shame.

A multi-purpose stadium that could be used year round in Mission Valley would have provided so many jobs, and brought so many events to SD. What better place for a Super Bowl? State football championship games?

SD leaders lack vision, and now the residents of both the city and the county are paying the price.
SD has had poor sports owners and bad politicians for as long as I can remember. The Chargers were still supported very well for 56 years.
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