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Old 08-18-2016, 12:00 AM
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same here but I have to admit it's a bit maddening seeing jerry with the twos.
ultimately it's up to the player to perform, but his athleticism stands out to me, and kyle's... well doesn't.
im trying to stay as neutral as I can, but I cant help shake the feeling that better coaching should turn attouchu into a play making olb.
I know it's not all about athleticism, but dude looks to have ghost fingers sometimes, it's a complement suggesting he looks like he's touching offensive players before he is actually there. really rooting for this kid to shape up.

He played against the run decently last season and was a monster speed rusher maybe he just hasn't progressed passed that?
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same here but I have to admit it's a bit maddening seeing jerry with the twos.
ultimately it's up to the player to perform, but his athleticism stands out to me, and kyle's... well doesn't.
im trying to stay as neutral as I can, but I cant help shake the feeling that better coaching should turn attouchu into a play making olb.
I know it's not all about athleticism, but dude looks to have ghost fingers sometimes, it's a complement suggesting he looks like he's touching offensive players before he is actually there. really rooting for this kid to shape up.
Just a quick, kinda superficial opinion: Kyle is more study, planning & effort. Jerry is about athleticism & training.
I'm guessing that Ingram attacking the "strong side" with Jerry as his rotation/backup and Kyle on the weak with Tourek as his backup is an effort to play the run more effectively.
It was an obvious FAIL vs Ten but it gave them something to look at.
I think Kyle actually has an edge in quick, effective reactions but was too hyped v Ten and actually took himself out of plays by being out front of the action. He needs to settle down.
Then again I could be wrong. That happened once I think.
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Old 08-18-2016, 10:53 AM
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We can wish and fantasize all we want to. The facts are the facts. Kyle plays a complete game with an incredible motor.

Attachou is a pass rush specialist.

So even the downs that you want your pass rusher in there, Kyle had 20 sacks his senior year.

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Still no pass rush on that defense
Attaochou and Ingram could be more effective
Sporting News and Athlon Sports had expected that with Emanuel and Williams as backups
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Still no pass rush on that defense
Attaochou and Ingram could be more effective
Sporting News and Athlon Sports had expected that with Emanuel and Williams as backups
Looks to me like they're experimenting with personnel packages. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jerry in across from Ingram on 3rd & longs or vs all air O with Kyle the starter & 3rd & shorts vs rushing or balanced offenses.

I would not base too much on one preseason game. They were moving Philon & Liuget around some with LBs coming from different angles to see how blocking would react & got some favorable stops on the first two Titan drives.
Mariota is a different kinda QB than most we'll face. Very good passer/runner. Our 1s did pretty well.
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We can wish and fantasize all we want to. The facts are the facts. Kyle plays a complete game with an incredible motor.

Attachou is a pass rush specialist.

So even the downs that you want your pass rusher in there, Kyle had 20 sacks his senior year.

Conversation over. Because I said so.

completely on the sideline after his first REAL NFL game.
it's PRE (experiment all you want) Season.
Jerry coming back... oh yes.

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...and-more#Trade

CHICAGO BEARS: Trade winds blowing in the Windy City? After losing starting center Hroniss Grasu to a torn ACL early in camp, the Bears turned to veteran Ted Larsen as the most likely replacement for him. But Larsen could have some competition from the outside because sources have told NFL Media that the team has spoken to a few other organizations about possible trades for a veteran center.

The clock is ticking on the preseason, so the Bears will need to move quickly if they want to give a new addition time to adjust to his new surroundings and offensive system.
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Chris Watt for Will Sutton?
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Chris Watt for a deep dish pie?
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Just a quick, kinda superficial opinion: Kyle is more study, planning & effort. Jerry is about athleticism & training.
I'm guessing that Ingram attacking the "strong side" with Jerry as his rotation/backup and Kyle on the weak with Tourek as his backup is an effort to play the run more effectively.
It was an obvious FAIL vs Ten but it gave them something to look at.
I think Kyle actually has an edge in quick, effective reactions but was too hyped v Ten and actually took himself out of plays by being out front of the action. He needs to settle down.
Then again I could be wrong. That happened once I think.
Ya I think that's a very plausible theory pags is tinkering with.
I'd have to look closer but my initial thought is to put williams at strong and leave jerry at weak.
I've noticed Jerry has trouble shredding TEs, so that would make more sense to me.
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Just a quick, kinda superficial opinion: Kyle is more study, planning & effort. Jerry is about athleticism & training.
I'm guessing that Ingram attacking the "strong side" with Jerry as his rotation/backup and Kyle on the weak with Tourek as his backup is an effort to play the run more effectively.
It was an obvious FAIL vs Ten but it gave them something to look at.
I think Kyle actually has an edge in quick, effective reactions but was too hyped v Ten and actually took himself out of plays by being out front of the action. He needs to settle down.
Then again I could be wrong. That happened once I think.
Kyle couldn't set the edge against a wide receiver on the 18 yard Murray run... Off to the back off the depth chart you go, I'd cut him though, he'd be the weakest link on the depth chart, he was the weak link on the first team and second team defense.
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