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Old 07-30-2018, 11:23 AM
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Ty Will has had some issues fighting for contested balls. Fortunately he often gets separation with his speed & size. KA is a master at route running so ther's a great example for TW to follow and it looks like MW is showing how to use size & strength to fight for contested balls. The #3 rating was a simple fact of 2017 production by the duo. LAC was NFL #1 in passing yards and KA/TW were the major contributors.
The neat thing about it is our room to improve. Our 2018 WRs are young group with a lot of quality, room to grow in technique and with great examples & competition.

How it comes together over the coming season remains to be seen. We ain't done nothing yet.
Can we?

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Old 07-30-2018, 11:37 AM
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TWs ridiculous explosion is taken for granted around here. The issue is refinement in catching, especially catching radius. Wait until we have our full bevy of weapons. Rivers will go to TW more selectively. Look out.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:37 AM
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Ty Will has had some issues fighting for contested balls. Fortunately he often gets separation with his speed & size. KA is a master at route running so ther's a great example for TW to follow and it looks like MW is showing how to use size & strength to fight for contested balls. The #3 rating was a simple fact of 2017 production by the duo. LAC was NFL #1 in passing yards and KA/TW were the major contributors.
The neat thing about it is our room to improve. Our 2018 WRs are young group with a lot of quality, room to grow in technique and with great examples & competition.

How it comes together over the coming season remains to be seen. We ain't done nothing yet.
Can we?

Probably.
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Old 07-30-2018, 11:42 AM
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Hard to understand why you disrespect TW so much. You aren't the only one. TW has been a terrific player. Undrafted out of a small school in Oregon, he spent most of his first season the practice squad. In his first full season on the roster, he stepped in for KA on a moment's notice and became an 1,100 yard receiver with 7 TDs and a 15 ypc average. He did this without protection from another big time receiving threat to draw coverage away from him.

In 2017, he added 43 grabs for 728 yards and 4 TDs and a 17 ypc average, providing another big time receiving threat that protected KA and allowed him to have a career year. KA and TW were the 3rd best receiving duo last season.

TW has out-performed all WRs drafted in the 2nd round and lower since he came into the league. Why do you hate him?
I agree, TW is "find". I know he's not great at coming up with the contested ball but he has above average speed, good size, and blocks well for the run. He's still our #2 WR until someone beats him out.



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Old 07-30-2018, 11:44 AM
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Tyrell's routes are simplistic and predictable. Can he learn other routes on the tree or add a jerk to the short crossing patterns? I mean some defenses tee'd up on him coming over the short middle of the field recalling the huge hit he took against the Jaguars last season. Defenses know this tendency Coach Whis needs to give what the defenses don't expect this season. His speed going deep bring it love how he stretches the field. If we can run consistently this season Rivers will look for him and Benjamin deep.

Scott and M Dub have a chance to get more targets with Henry out and defenses won't know what to expect. Who will rise to the top during pre-season and make plays? Hopefully Mikey can be a red zone threat and 3rd down receiver other than Allen. Stay healthy Mikey.
As long as he get can the ball later in his route he's beats the coverage 90% of the time. Defenses try to force Rivers to dump off to him sooner.
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Old 07-30-2018, 01:02 PM
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I agree, TW is "find". I know he's not great at coming up with the contested ball but he has above average speed, good size, and blocks well for the run. He's still our #2 WR until someone beats him out.



They can't all be KA!
Ty Will has ELITE size/speed combination. Dudes who are 6-3, 6-4 and over 200 lbs don't very often have 40 times in the low 4.4 range. His low 40 time was 4.33. He was a project coming out of a tiny school in Oregon, undrafted. It's not surprising he is still improving on his complete skill set (the so-called "contested ball"). Look at WRs drafted in 2015-16. Aside from Amari Cooper (#4 overall 2015) and Michael Thomas (#47 overall 2016), he has out-performed every WR drafted in those two classes. He has been as good as Tyreek Hill...he has more yardage and one less receiving TD, but last season his 16.9 average topped the Chiefs' celebrated WR.
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Old 07-30-2018, 06:20 PM
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Hard to understand why you disrespect TW so much. You aren't the only one. TW has been a terrific player. Undrafted out of a small school in Oregon, he spent most of his first season the practice squad. In his first full season on the roster, he stepped in for KA on a moment's notice and became an 1,100 yard receiver with 7 TDs and a 15 ypc average. He did this without protection from another big time receiving threat to draw coverage away from him.

In 2017, he added 43 grabs for 728 yards and 4 TDs and a 17 ypc average, providing another big time receiving threat that protected KA and allowed him to have a career year. KA and TW were the 3rd best receiving duo last season.

TW has out-performed all WRs drafted in the 2nd round and lower since he came into the league. Why do you hate him?
TW has outperformed his UDFA status. There is no question about that fact. But he's not yet there as a WR star in the same vein as KA. And the problem happened in 2017. He just didn't make the same leap last year that he did in 2016. The same inconsistency in route running and catching the ball still showed up. Now, I'm hoping it's because he spent last offseason rehabbing and that he'll show up better this year. We are a little spoiled when it comes to UDFA though with Gates, Dielman, Floyd, etc.
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TW has outperformed his UDFA status. There is no question about that fact. But he's not yet there as a WR star in the same vein as KA. And the problem happened in 2017. He just didn't make the same leap last year that he did in 2016. The same inconsistency in route running and catching the ball still showed up. Now, I'm hoping it's because he spent last offseason rehabbing and that he'll show up better this year. We are a little spoiled when it comes to UDFA though with Gates, Dielman, Floyd, etc.

TW's biggest problem is the existence of KA and MW on this roster. Those two have significantly more talent, and that will put them on the field before TW every time. Not bashing TW, but he just is not in the same caliber talent wise.
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TW's biggest problem is the existence of KA and MW on this roster. Those two have significantly more talent, and that will put them on the field before TW every time. Not bashing TW, but he just is not in the same caliber talent wise.
Mike Williams was a rookie bust. Tyrell Williams has accomplished significantly more in the NFL. TW is the superior talent until MW proves otherwise.
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Mike Williams was a rookie bust. Tyrell Williams has accomplished significantly more in the NFL. TW is the superior talent until MW proves otherwise.
I am not so harsh on MW as you are, but agree that TW is going rock our world. TW has been mentored by KA. Hit the JUGS.

KA at Big Slot, with TW/MW on the outside will create tremendous matchup difficulties for our opponents.
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