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Old 01-23-2019, 08:09 AM
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Chargers v. Patriots: Alright, this one's a bit mindblowing and I cannot take credit for it. A fan named Chris sent this to me, and by all accounts, it checks out. So maybe you heard (or even saw, as I did) Tom Brady bro-hugging referee Ron Torbert prior to Sunday's game. Though it didn't have that good of an appearance on the surface, maybe it was really just a courtesy thing. A mutual respect. Now, it just so happens that Torbert officiated the Titans v. Patriots Divisional playoff game last season (which NE won 35-14). So what, right? Well, off the field, Torbert is a lawyer with the law firm Barton Malow. The same Barton Malow that was the project manager on Robert Kraft's Gillette Stadium where the Patriots call home. Hmm. Isn't that a coincidence. No conflict of interest there, right? With that in mind, go back and watch the officiating in this game, and see how out-of-whack Philip Rivers gets as the game progresses because the Chargers never once got a break in the game. Granted, the Patriots were assessed more penalties and yardage that the Chargers (the majority of which was assessed after the Patriots ran up a big lead), but as can be the case, the non-calls -- including clear cases of roughing the passer against Rivers -- were a difference maker. Just munch on that for a while.
Very interesting. At the very least, Torbert should recuse himself from officiating games where there is a potential conflict of interest. Also, the NFL should remove any refs like him, with any kind of friendly relations with any player and/or teams, from officiating games with those players. Think of it this way: A referee is kind of like a member of a jury on a trial. A ref, just like a jury member, is presented with evidence and must make a decision on who is guilty or innocent. Granted, a ref's decision is rendered much more quickly, but the principal is the same, especially when reviewing the replay, and the way the refs huddle together and discuss a certain play and how to rule. Very similar to a jury. And there is no way someone like Torbert, with friendly connections with Brady and the Cheatiots, should be on the same field in ANY Pats game.
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Old 01-23-2019, 10:43 AM
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http://www.thefixisin.net/nfl2018.html

Chargers v. Patriots: Alright, this one's a bit mindblowing and I cannot take credit for it. A fan named Chris sent this to me, and by all accounts, it checks out. So maybe you heard (or even saw, as I did) Tom Brady bro-hugging referee Ron Torbert prior to Sunday's game. Though it didn't have that good of an appearance on the surface, maybe it was really just a courtesy thing. A mutual respect. Now, it just so happens that Torbert officiated the Titans v. Patriots Divisional playoff game last season (which NE won 35-14). So what, right? Well, off the field, Torbert is a lawyer with the law firm Barton Malow. The same Barton Malow that was the project manager on Robert Kraft's Gillette Stadium where the Patriots call home. Hmm. Isn't that a coincidence. No conflict of interest there, right? With that in mind, go back and watch the officiating in this game, and see how out-of-whack Philip Rivers gets as the game progresses because the Chargers never once got a break in the game. Granted, the Patriots were assessed more penalties and yardage that the Chargers (the majority of which was assessed after the Patriots ran up a big lead), but as can be the case, the non-calls -- including clear cases of roughing the passer against Rivers -- were a difference maker. Just munch on that for a while.
Yet Midtown will tell you that it is dumb luck that Brady draws a flag with almost every time a defender touches him then Rivers gets clubbed after the false start play was blown dead and no flag. Almost every defensive series in the first half ended with Romo looking at the replay saying "Wow looks like they got away with one there." They sure do seem to "get away with one" quite a bit when other teams get ticky-tac calls made on them. At some point it stops becoming dumb luck and starts becoming real.
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Old 01-23-2019, 02:46 PM
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Yet Midtown will tell you that it is dumb luck that Brady draws a flag with almost every time a defender touches him then Rivers gets clubbed after the false start play was blown dead and no flag. Almost every defensive series in the first half ended with Romo looking at the replay saying "Wow looks like they got away with one there." They sure do seem to "get away with one" quite a bit when other teams get ticky-tac calls made on them. At some point it stops becoming dumb luck and starts becoming real.
Any time you bring up shady referring or preferential treatment you will get the typical response that you are a conspiracy theorist. You hit them with that term and your are discredited... you are the grassy knoll. But it doesn't have to be "people in high places are in on the kill taker".... they don't have to be sitting in dark, smoke-filled rooms handing each other manila envelopes of cash. If there is a personal relationship between a referee and a team or a key player it can affect the way they perceive things in the game. Same thing (maybe to a lesser extent) goes when there is a media darling that generates ratings. Year in and year out I see PR get hammered in the pocket and almost never gets a call.... I see our players get thrown out of bounds and not get a PI... I see phantom holding calls occur against us at completely predictable times. Not saying the we have not gotten a call here and there that has helped us.... just that the Patriots, in particular, seem to get the serious benefit of the doubt.
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Rachel Maddow is actually very careful with what she chooses to go on air with. There was a story over a year ago that she discovered was a setup. She not only chose not to air it but told her audience how her team discovered that it was a trap designed to discredit anyone looking for a scoop.
Like when her careful "BREAKING NEWS" of releasing Trumps taxes (without his consent) and it turned out he paid more of % of taxes than most, 25%, more than Bernie paid of 13.5% or Obama of 18.7% makes people wonder if there is an agenda?
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If anyone thinks that Spygate was a one and done deal, let this sink in:

“Over an eight-year stretch…they were secretly recording opponents’ sidelines during games in order to decipher their signals. How often? Forty separate instances between 2000 and 2007.”

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-th...s-dynasty-ever
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Like when her careful "BREAKING NEWS" of releasing Trumps taxes (without his consent) and it turned out he paid more of % of taxes than most, 25%, more than Bernie paid of 13.5% or Obama of 18.7% makes people wonder if there is an agenda?
When you engage in investigative journalism you will get some things wrong. Woodward and Bernstein got a couple of stories wrong during the Watergate era and it didn't end up mattering because they got everything else right.

If she really had an agenda, she would have run the story about the document from the NSA that her team discovered to be a fake (without double-checking it, which was how her team caught the setup). Her career would have gone up in flames just like Dan Rather's did when he aired the story about George W's service in the Texas Air National Guard that was based on documents later judged to be forged.

We may have to agree to disagree on this because the mods will probably want this discussion to end.
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