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Old 04-05-2017, 09:35 AM
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No. 2 is wrong. You are talking abouty 'L.A.' Tinsel-town. La-La Land. If it ain't broke, charge till it is! The stadium owner has Spanos over a barrel. Oh no, not the first year(assuming they probably have a multi-year deal(unless of course they went to a year to year which would be prohibitive)). Right about year 5 they re-negotiate at a higher price(more people bigger market more money) plus the fact you have some of the richest people in America one county over. Stadium owner is really in the drivers seat. They renegotiate, Spanos doesn't want to BOOM! Nowhere to play. Watcha gonna do? Go to Oakland? So if things go south what is Spanos gonna do? Go to Stockton?
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:38 AM
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He had the option of being the biggest show in town in one city or being the 10th, 11th, 12th, or whatever show in town in another city.
Don't forget that being 10th, 11th, 12th etc still increased his value and the teams profits by at least 2X.

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with phillip rivers there is always a chance to win.
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And the Spanos' might be sly foxes too...
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Old 04-07-2017, 07:57 PM
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Scott and BR state season ticket holders we're invited to a big event at Downtown Disney in Anaheim. Wait a minute. What about the "Fight for LA" campaign? You're fighting for fans in Los Angeles right? They know the money is in Orange County, jilted fans are in San Diego and they are ignoring fans in Los Angeles. That day of renegotiation can't come soon enough.

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No. 2 is wrong. You are talking abouty 'L.A.' Tinsel-town. La-La Land. If it ain't broke, charge till it is! The stadium owner has Spanos over a barrel. Oh no, not the first year(assuming they probably have a multi-year deal(unless of course they went to a year to year which would be prohibitive)). Right about year 5 they re-negotiate at a higher price(more people bigger market more money) plus the fact you have some of the richest people in America one county over. Stadium owner is really in the drivers seat. They renegotiate, Spanos doesn't want to BOOM! Nowhere to play. Watcha gonna do? Go to Oakland? So if things go south what is Spanos gonna do? Go to Stockton?
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:09 AM
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Since I started this thread, it's been recently announced on March 27th that the Chargers season tickets at their new stadium are sold out. Sure, it's a smaller stadium, but maybe due to the stadiums limited capacity, demand for season tickets grew stronger. Everyone is closer to the action. I think everything is going to plan for the Spanoses, despite how much that hurts the San Diego fans left behind. But why left behind? No one but themselves is making them stop rooting for the team. The team is still the Chargers. Only the city and stadium has changed. I'm a Chargers fan first. I hope they do well. I'm rooting for the team, not the owner. But if the owner benefits from their decision, good for them too. Life's too short to hold grudges against anyone.
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Old 04-18-2017, 05:41 PM
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Since I started this thread, it's been recently announced on March 27th that the Chargers season tickets at their new stadium are sold out. Sure, it's a smaller stadium, but maybe due to the stadiums limited capacity, demand for season tickets grew stronger. Everyone is closer to the action. I think everything is going to plan for the Spanoses, despite how much that hurts the San Diego fans left behind. But why left behind? No one but themselves is making them stop rooting for the team. The team is still the Chargers. Only the city and stadium has changed. I'm a Chargers fan first. I hope they do well. I'm rooting for the team, not the owner. But if the owner benefits from their decision, good for them too. Life's too short to hold grudges against anyone.
Everything is going as planned until they have to try and sell PSL's at the new stadium. If they have not had a winning product then they will be in trouble. Especially, if the Raiders and Rams have been playing well and capturing the interest of the LA fan base.
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Old 04-29-2017, 03:20 AM
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What is so sad is how cold the attitudes have been toward those of us who supported this team since 1965 and before. I Was there the day The murph opened with the Chargers on the field for an open house - Tom Dempsey was a free agent kicker trying out - August of 67. The team even played sold out preseason games back then against the Johnny U Colts , the rams, the lIons and others - sold out against NFL teams before the merger.
They AFL team, and the other original AFL'ers - the Raiders especially, here in CA - were about the cities they were in. It was important to be different than the NFL - warm weather - great colors in stark contrast to the winter fields and stale colors.
My loyalty was to the city - this town - the Chargers played here - and the players represented San Diego.
If Mr Spanos really thought this out, he would have left the colors behind, invited LA folk to submit for new name and ideas with the winner getting 4 50 yard line seats with all the fixin's for the next few years and access to box seats in the new summit. Get LA to really buy in…leave our dreams and team behind for the day when it could come back - throwing us a little bone of gratitude saying it can come back.
Why would that have been so bad - or so hard? They have the team - no one up there has any link to our memories or Merriman or LT - Kassim or Dickie Post - non of those guys -
In real terms its a new franchise with no value with the name - the name Chargers has no value in LA except to say how little value the fans have - how can you break a relationship of all those years? Just like that - with no feeling at all? Why so vindictive towards us? we can’t go forward and afford what its going to cost? Maybe there are those in LA(or SD too) who can foot the bill - good for them. Enjoy the billions coming your way I say - I hope your family will be happy - but to turn the back on all of us who were there forever - it says we have no value - why should anyone in LA buy in knowing how we were treated? Good luck with that… I think they should have rebranded it would have been better. NBA teams did that to great success, the MLB teams did that and many of the historical NFL teams did that too.
In Europe, cities like Madrid have 5 teams in one league - its about the geography, or the neighborhood more than the logo - SAN DIEGO chargers - but the Brooklyn Dodger fans could not follow on with the LA dodger fans could they?
The NFl has left me - why should I stay loyal… how do I do that…to what? The players don't even care…Goff, LT - Anthony Miller even…how much did they get paid…

Thanks for the memories…its all I got now…
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I know that many Board members are conflicted at best regarding the move north to StubHub, but I thought that I'd share this article from yesterday's OC Register article where the writer attended the Draft Party at the ESPNZone in Downtown Disney.

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PUBLISHED: April 27, 2017 at 9:20 pm

ANAHEIM – You would have thought the search expedition involved finding Bigfoot, the way people have been carrying on about the actual existence of Chargers fans in and around their new home in Los Angeles.

A Chargers fan base north of San Diego, you say? Might as well go look for D.B. Cooper.

This is Rams country.

Heck, even the Raiders have a foothold that stretches all the way from Santa Barbara to Riverside.

All true. All valid.

As for the Chargers?

If you listen to the talk on Twitter, the Van Nuys freshman football team has a bigger fan base. A scary reality that was about to slap the Chargers upside their head upon leaving their San Diego home of 56 years for disinterested L.A., which doesn’t give a rip about the new kid in town and never will.

Or so the narrative goes.

So imagine the surprise upon stepping foot into Downtown Disney on Thursday and walking face-first into a wall of fans decked out in powder blue Chargers jerseys and hats and hoodies and T-shirts.

Real live season-ticket holders, no less. And beyond excited to usher in the Chargers’ new era in Los Angeles.

There had to be a mistake, right?

Maybe they bused them in from San Diego, I initially thought.

Or did I get so caught up monitoring the NFL draft that I blew right past my Anaheim freeway exit and ended up in Escondido?

Nope, I confirmed, taking a long looking around. Disneyland was to my right. And a few feet to my left was the ESPN Zone.

I was in Downtown Disney, all right.

But … but …

Actual Chargers fans?

Seriously

“We’ve been here the whole time,” laughed David Michael, a 33-year-old lifelong Chargers fan from Long Beach. “We’re here and we’re strong. People will see that.”

Imagine that.

“All that stuff you’ve heard about no Chargers fans up here, it’s just social media talk,” said Ernesto Beltran, 37, from South Los Angeles. “And the media in general. For whatever reason they love to get a kick out of trying to say there’s no Chargers fans. But that’s not true at all. For years many of us drove two hours to watch them play in San Diego. There were a ton of us. But it seems like everyone wants to go with that wave and say there’s no Chargers fans.

The truth is the truth, no matter how hard it might be to believer

And the truth is, the Chargers threw a draft party Thursday at the ESPN Zone in Downtown Disney for their new season ticket holders. They capped their RSVP list at 2,000 – keep in mind they’ve sold out their 30,000 season ticket to Carson’s StubHub Center – and it took fans about two hours to gobble up all 2,000.

The free food and open bar didn’t hurt, courtesy of the Chargers as a tip of the cap to the fan base they are building. And there were a number of former Chargers on hand for autographs and pictures and that always helps.

But the reality is, the fans were there because, well, they were supporting the team they’ve loved their whole lives. No different than any other draft party being thrown across the NFL.

Just so happens these were Chargers fans hailing from downtown Los Angeles and Cypress and Anaheim and Long Beach and Westchester and West Covina and Norwalk and Pasadena and Lynwood and Glendora.

They aren’t buying tickets just to make a buck on resale. They aren’t fans of other teams, scooping up season tickets simply to guarantee they get a pair to see their favorite team only to unload tickets to the nine other games.

They are real Chargers fans.

“Yup, we’re actually Chargers fans,” said John Lopez, 63, of Anaheim.

Shocking, right?

“I have to say I’m pleasantly surprised,” said Kelly Shaw, a 28-year-long season-ticket holder from Temecula. “I thought it might be a bit of a challenge, selling season tickets and building a new fan base. But it’s obvious there are fans here, and I’m sure plenty of fans who will make the drive like I will.”

That isn’t to say they are as popular as the Rams. Or even the Raiders, for that matter.

But you might want to re-think the myth the Chargers will fall on deaf ears and cold hearts when they officially make the 120-mile move north to L.A. in mid July.

At the very least, there appears to be enough room to support two local NFL teams.

“It’s not true, whatever you’ve heard about Chargers fans up here,” said Ray Williams, 36. “There’s definitely a fan base up here. It’s not the biggest. But then, the Chargers’ fan base in general is one of the smallest in the NFL. But with them move up here, a lot of those so-called closet Chargers fans are coming out. And if they put a good product on the field and win games, I think it will continue to grow over time.”

Said John Lopez, 63, of Anaheim: “I think a lot of people are going to be surprised as the year goes on, just how much support they actually have here. Especially at StubHub Center. It’s not going to be like Qualcomm when the other teams’ fans took over the stadium.

This isn’t a slight on San Diego. In fact, the L.A.-based fans canvassed Thursday insist they would have been perfectly fine had the Chargers remained in San Diego.

“We wanted them to stay.,” said Lopez. “We loved going to San Diego to see them play. But the main thing I wanted was a new stadium. It was long overdue.”

Unfortunately that didn’t work out in San Diego. You can play the blame game all day trying to figure out who was most at fault. But the bottom line is, the Chargers felt they ran out of options in San Diego, the NFL agreed, so off to Los Angeles they moved.

“To be honest I was pissed when they announced the move,” said Marvin Youseff, 37, of Cypress. “The main thing is, we don’t want to pay second fiddle to the Rams in Inglewood. We want to have our own place.

“But after the dust settled, when you started to realize you could go to games 20 minutes away rather than two hours away, I jumped at the chance.”

By the looks of things, plenty of others did too.

Crazy, I know.

But true.

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/04/27...-of-san-diego/
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:05 PM
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I know that many Board members are conflicted at best regarding the move north to StubHub, but I thought that I'd share this article from yesterday's OC Register article where the writer attended the Draft Party at the ESPNZone in Downtown Disney.
Not sure what 2,000 fans for a draft party means. They are the new kids on the block so there is some interest with respect to that. However, they still need to present a winning product to generate enough interest for the LA fan base to invest their time and money with the team.
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However, they still need to present a winning product to generate enough interest for the LA fan base to invest their time and money with the team.
Without question.

However, there is an existing fan base in the LA basin among the 18 million inhabitants (currently small, but sufficient - and those invited to the draft party are season ticket holders), so they will do well on and off the field if they win.
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