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Old 05-08-2012, 05:03 PM
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Gotta love whats going on in Minnesota.

This is sure back firing in the NFL's face right now.
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:15 PM
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whoever ends up going to LA, theyll have an awesome stadium

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Even if it was just $5/ticket... that could help the tax payers quite a bit. The people who use it pay a portion of it. With the insane profit margins the vendors in the stadium make I am ok taxing them a bit higher than normal to help pay for things... then again the margins may be offset by the rent cost of the captive customers. I doubt anyone has access to the accounting books so we will never know.
Of course the rent costs will be offset by customers.

a new stadium will do very little in the long run to fill the stadium. Look at the Petco.
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Old 05-09-2012, 03:31 PM
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Of course the rent costs will be offset by customers.

a new stadium will do very little in the long run to fill the stadium. Look at the Petco.
I was talking about construction costs... it is the responceability of whoever rents the venue to cover the costs of renting it and profit however they can.. but taxing the tickets on top of that to pay off the loan is what I was refering to there.
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By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

Great news in Minnesota makes for nervous times in two AFC West California cities.

Barring something unexpected, the Vikings will be staying in Minnesota with a new stadium. Minnesota instantly approved a proposed stadium. Now, the final negotiating begins. Now that the proposal has gotten this far, there is little chance it will break down.

That means the Vikings will be out of the mix to fill the void in Los Angeles. The NFL may soon bring a team to L.A..

Along with the Vikings, the San Diego Chargers and Oakland Raiders have been considered among the teams on a short list to move to Los Angeles.

The Chargers and Raiders are trying to get new stadiums but neither team has much traction in those efforts. The Chargers have widely been considered the favorite to move to Los Angeles. The Raiders have indicated all options are on the table.

With the Vikings all but out of the mix, it has to worry some folks in California.
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I was born and raised in San Diego. Went to basic, and 'A' School at Balboa. I call Quallcom Stadium, San Diego Stadium, not the Murph or the Q. I used to watch the Chargers play in Balboa Stadium. I think I can call the Stadium pretty much whatever I flipping want.

So, San Diego Stadium, isn't what, big enough, new enough? What? Now you want to build a new one? So the San Diego city council can create yet another well spring of money to funnel into the council members pockets, again. I'll say three words: Petco Park! You'll all remember that debacle. Those of us living in the city didn't even get to vote on that one. So is this going to be the same thing? Well I can't see it. What will become of the big hole in Mission Valley? This is such bad idea again. When will San Diego wake up?
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But you're not looking at the bigger picture. Higher ticket prices means lower sales overall. You also can't sell food, beverages, merchandise to non-existant seat occupiers. So what do you have? A new empty stadium, and low revenue. But you're still taxing those seats. Good idea.

Let me ask this, how does a family of 4 go to a sporting event? I'll answer it too, they don't. Ticket prices are at an all time high. Now you want to tax on top of what owners exorbitantly charge? That really isn't all that outrageous when you raise utilities, raise rent, raise insurance, raise whatever you want. It gives owners the right to charge anything they want, but in the long run you drive your potential customers away. So what's cheaper, take your family of 4 to a sporting event or call for pizza and watch it on TV? This is what the average family thinks about when deciding to go to a sporting event.

I don't think it is a good idea to move teams right now. I would think twice about moving the Chargers or Padres to the LA market. I don't think you'd have the market appeal compared to moving the Rams or Raiders where you have proven fan bases of both. Baseball is different. You already have two teams in a saturated market, i.e. Dogers and Angels.

Look what happened to the Clippers. Where's Clipper Arena? Exactly.
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But you're not looking at the bigger picture. Higher ticket prices means lower sales overall. You also can't sell food, beverages, merchandise to non-existant seat occupiers. So what do you have? A new empty stadium, and low revenue. But you're still taxing those seats. Good idea.
Smaller stadium will offset much of that. IF the team raises its prices to high and does not sell that is on the seller. If they put a product on the field worth watching people will go.
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Let me ask this, how does a family of 4 go to a sporting event? I'll answer it too, they don't. Ticket prices are at an all time high. Now you want to tax on top of what owners exorbitantly charge? That really isn't all that outrageous when you raise utilities, raise rent, raise insurance, raise whatever you want. It gives owners the right to charge anything they want, but in the long run you drive your potential customers away. So what's cheaper, take your family of 4 to a sporting event or call for pizza and watch it on TV? This is what the average family thinks about when deciding to go to a sporting event.
I am well aware of ticket prices and the like... trust me on that one. There are people who will watch the game on TV.... but there will be people who want to go see it in person for the atmosphere and the like. I don't want to put the team at a disadvantage with free agency or everything else. Yes they should pay teh same city and state income taxes (as is standard as far as I know, for both visitors and the home team). It makes sense to
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I don't think it is a good idea to move teams right now. I would think twice about moving the Chargers or Padres to the LA market. I don't think you'd have the market appeal compared to moving the Rams or Raiders where you have proven fan bases of both. Baseball is different. You already have two teams in a saturated market, i.e. Dogers and Angels.
No point movving a baseball team... I was point out that the Padres do not have the c hance to field a team with many super stars because of hte leagues structure. The Chargers are able to keep a Phillip Rivers, Antoino Gates, and an Eric Weddle because of hte leauge structure. Bolts have people worth watching.. Friars don't get that luxery for long.
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Look what happened to the Clippers. Where's Clipper Arena? Exactly.
I am not a fan of hte two team market stuff (I know that is waht the NFL wants). But as of this time there are zero other NFL teams in LA. Yes, it is another transplant city that will have the same issues becasue of pre existing fan allegance but over time the LA team(s) will become number one (and two) in the area.
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But you're not looking at the bigger picture. Higher ticket prices means lower sales overall. You also can't sell food, beverages, merchandise to non-existant seat occupiers. So what do you have? A new empty stadium, and low revenue. But you're still taxing those seats. Good idea.

Let me ask this, how does a family of 4 go to a sporting event? I'll answer it too, they don't. Ticket prices are at an all time high. Now you want to tax on top of what owners exorbitantly charge? That really isn't all that outrageous when you raise utilities, raise rent, raise insurance, raise whatever you want. It gives owners the right to charge anything they want, but in the long run you drive your potential customers away. So what's cheaper, take your family of 4 to a sporting event or call for pizza and watch it on TV? This is what the average family thinks about when deciding to go to a sporting event.

I don't think it is a good idea to move teams right now. I would think twice about moving the Chargers or Padres to the LA market. I don't think you'd have the market appeal compared to moving the Rams or Raiders where you have proven fan bases of both. Baseball is different. You already have two teams in a saturated market, i.e. Dogers and Angels.

Look what happened to the Clippers. Where's Clipper Arena? Exactly.
The Clippers thrive in L.A. They make tons of money and their arena situation is ideal. The Clippers are a bad example.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:09 AM
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Are we a lock for LA. now that the Vikes got their stadium ?
The Rams to me still seem to be the perfect fit there along w/ the Faiders.

What`s the latest in our stadium search ... are we making headway at all ?
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