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Old 05-24-2012, 04:21 PM
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No decision has been made yet, but that will be left up to the City of Santa Clara (the entity that is financing the stadium), not the 49ers.
Articles from the local papers up here seem to imply that the 49ers would have to OK the Raiders as tentants. Not much is being made public except that Santa Clara went after the $1B or so financing.

According to some articles the stadium is being designed to house two home teams, just in case. It makes perfectly good sense for the Raiders and Santa Clara, but I'm not so sure the 49ers would want them down here. Lots of corporate money laying around and I don't think the 49ers would be willing to share. Future South Bay fans are sure to be 49er fans unless the Raiders move in as well.

Timing seems to work for the Raiders as well and the Davis family and other Raider owners would not have to sell any shares. A move to LA or somewhere else may require giving up share equity, a move the Davis' won't like.
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Old 05-24-2012, 05:21 PM
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Articles from the local papers up here seem to imply that the 49ers would have to OK the Raiders as tentants. Not much is being made public except that Santa Clara went after the $1B or so financing.

According to some articles the stadium is being designed to house two home teams, just in case. It makes perfectly good sense for the Raiders and Santa Clara, but I'm not so sure the 49ers would want them down here. Lots of corporate money laying around and I don't think the 49ers would be willing to share. Future South Bay fans are sure to be 49er fans unless the Raiders move in as well.

Timing seems to work for the Raiders as well and the Davis family and other Raider owners would not have to sell any shares. A move to LA or somewhere else may require giving up share equity, a move the Davis' won't like.
Unlike the Spanos family that owns 96% of Chargers' shares, Davis' ownership percentage was already far less even before Darth sold off shares over the last few years of his life to pay for the huge contracts that he was handing out like candy.

Making a move to LA would likely mean Davis becoming a minority owner - something that AEG would love but Davis would "not so love".
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:21 PM
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Great location, but not owned by the City. They have some sort of agreement to use the land for a landfill, but the actual land is owned by the Navy. I knew about a group trying to work a deal years ago... and the Navy said NO F'ing Way. They are protective of the land surrounding the base, as they should be.
My research indicated that the city does own the landfill. What's your source please?
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Old 05-25-2012, 10:35 PM
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My research indicated that the city does own the landfill. What's your source please?
whys it matter? its downtown or nothing at this point. Its too late to explore other options.
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Old 05-26-2012, 10:23 AM
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My research indicated that the city does own the landfill. What's your source please?
"The city has operated Miramar Landfill since 1959 when it signed a $500-a-year lease deal with the military, which owns the property. The lease, which extends through 2045, changed several times through the years, notably expanding the site from 450 acres to the existing 1,400-acre plot."

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2011/...amar-landfill/

FYI - It took Google .25 seconds to find 330,000 references to Miramar Landfill lease. What research did you conduct?

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Old 05-26-2012, 03:53 PM
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FYI - It took Google .25 seconds to find 330,000 references to Miramar Landfill lease. What research did you conduct?
No need to be a jerk, I did a google search of my own.

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Old 05-26-2012, 04:01 PM
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It matters because this is a discussion forum. This is the stadium thread. It's what we are supposed to do here. I fell that if it's really "downtown or nothing" then it's gonna be nothing. The east village site is too small, and I don't think any responsible party would be in favor of the 10th ave site.
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sure hope something gets done soon.

As for Mira Mar, I say close it. The military doesn't need it as much as they let on. They can fly planes out of Pendleton or Coronado. I would rather see that land go to the city and private developers. In fact it would be a great place for a new airport.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:22 PM
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After watching the Mayoral debate today, we should prepare for the LA Chargers. If the City/County think the stadium will be built with zero public money then adios team...

To think that the failure of a franchise in the Padres got a new ball park makes me sick.
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Old 05-30-2012, 12:07 AM
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sure hope something gets done soon.

As for Mira Mar, I say close it. The military doesn't need it as much as they let on. They can fly planes out of Pendleton or Coronado. I would rather see that land go to the city and private developers. In fact it would be a great place for a new airport.
Are you being serious ? You do know that most of the fighter wing for the 1st MEF is out of Miramar right? Pendleton does not have actual runways for fixed wing aircraft and Coronado is mainly helo's (also SD Airport is right next door).
Due to BRAC the Corps pretty much consolidated their entire fixed wing air wing at Miramar (as in their is 3 times amount of aircraft there NOW compared to when it was a NAS).

MCAS Miramar isn't going anywhere, that's like saying the Navy really doesn't use 32th street either.
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